Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side pockets,
they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this post is
killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:01:29 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side pockets,

they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this post is
killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

I find anything dry/crunchy creates the "crumb problem". Crumbs lead to critters which leads to bad things like gnawing of instrument tubing, cushions etc. or worse, nesting in wings and fuselage.

My go-to items in no particular order:

- Small apples (the ones you buy in bags of 10 or 20)
- "Baby carrots" repacked into small ziplocs
- Energy bars like Cliff Bars. They are soft enough that they hold together even on hot days but without getting too sticky.

P3

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On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:12:05 PM UTC-4, Papa3 wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:01:29 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side

pockets, they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this
post is killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

I find anything dry/crunchy creates the "crumb problem". Crumbs lead to critters which leads to bad things like gnawing of instrument tubing, cushions etc. or worse, nesting in wings and fuselage.

My go-to items in no particular order:

- Small apples (the ones you buy in bags of 10 or 20)
- "Baby carrots" repacked into small ziplocs
- Energy bars like Cliff Bars. They are soft enough that they hold together even on hot days but without getting too sticky.

P3

You make a good point, crackers are too fragile and create rodent problems. Those Keebler crackers are good , but way too sweet, probably would create an instant heart attack. I did take a couple of Nutter Butter cookies once and they did ok, only made
me thirsty and then the urine flowed. It is not like pulling up to a 7-11 and getting a hot dog, must really be aware of the side effects while flying. Apples have sugar, carrots on the other hand have much better benefits, yet they are much better cold
than hot as we get here in Florida. I might try these little energy packs tomorrow that contain about two ounces of so called instant energy that some of the Keto Guys use. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:48:34 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:12:05 PM UTC-4, Papa3 wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:01:29 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side

pockets, they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this
post is killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

I find anything dry/crunchy creates the "crumb problem". Crumbs lead to critters which leads to bad things like gnawing of instrument tubing, cushions etc. or worse, nesting in wings and fuselage.

My go-to items in no particular order:

- Small apples (the ones you buy in bags of 10 or 20)
- "Baby carrots" repacked into small ziplocs
- Energy bars like Cliff Bars. They are soft enough that they hold together even on hot days but without getting too sticky.

P3

You make a good point, crackers are too fragile and create rodent problems. Those Keebler crackers are good , but way too sweet, probably would create an instant heart attack. I did take a couple of Nutter Butter cookies once and they did ok, only made

me thirsty and then the urine flowed. It is not like pulling up to a 7-11 and getting a hot dog, must really be aware of the side effects while flying. Apples have sugar, carrots on the other hand have much better benefits, yet they are much better cold
than hot as we get here in Florida. I might try these little energy packs tomorrow that contain about two ounces of so called instant energy that some of the Keto Guys use. Old Bob, The Purist


During the Vietnam Police action and just after the recovery of an F4 crewman named Roger Locher the subject of survival snacks came up, something that would be available if you found yourself on the ground and that would be edible during a mission and
not easily spoiled. Locher was on the ground for a bit over 3 weeks as I recall when he was recovered and had to live off the land while E&Eing.

As I recall the venerable TOOTSIE ROLL was decidedly the most favored. I kept a couple in the leg pockets of my flight suit along with a couple of water flasks. When they were available in the BX I would buy them and stick them in a mini refrigerator
that I and my bunkmate had procured *(or should I have said purloined?). We kept said mini fridge in a locker with a hole drilled in the back for the cord. A Tootsie Roll will be good for two years after its production date. Guys who had bailed out
would tell you that hunger was not a problem for the first couple of days but you would find your blood glucose dropping soon thereafter.

When I knew I would be having a particularly busy day flying tow I would stick a large one in my shirt pocket, nothing like maintaining your blood glucose levels. They would soften but never melted. A couple of bites of a Tootsie Roll and a swig of
water and I could keep those cranky glider pilots launching and happy.

Walt Connelly
Former Tow Pilot
Now Happy Helicopter Pilot

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On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 6:22:57 PM UTC-4, waltco...@aol.com wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:48:34 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:12:05 PM UTC-4, Papa3 wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:01:29 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side

pockets, they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this
post is killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

I find anything dry/crunchy creates the "crumb problem". Crumbs lead to critters which leads to bad things like gnawing of instrument tubing, cushions etc. or worse, nesting in wings and fuselage.

My go-to items in no particular order:

- Small apples (the ones you buy in bags of 10 or 20)
- "Baby carrots" repacked into small ziplocs
- Energy bars like Cliff Bars. They are soft enough that they hold together even on hot days but without getting too sticky.

P3

You make a good point, crackers are too fragile and create rodent problems. Those Keebler crackers are good , but way too sweet, probably would create an instant heart attack. I did take a couple of Nutter Butter cookies once and they did ok, only

made me thirsty and then the urine flowed. It is not like pulling up to a 7-11 and getting a hot dog, must really be aware of the side effects while flying. Apples have sugar, carrots on the other hand have much better benefits, yet they are much better
cold than hot as we get here in Florida. I might try these little energy packs tomorrow that contain about two ounces of so called instant energy that some of the Keto Guys use. Old Bob, The Purist

During the Vietnam Police action and just after the recovery of an F4 crewman named Roger Locher the subject of survival snacks came up, something that would be available if you found yourself on the ground and that would be edible during a mission and

not easily spoiled. Locher was on the ground for a bit over 3 weeks as I recall when he was recovered and had to live off the land while E&Eing.

As I recall the venerable TOOTSIE ROLL was decidedly the most favored. I kept a couple in the leg pockets of my flight suit along with a couple of water flasks. When they were available in the BX I would buy them and stick them in a mini refrigerator

that I and my bunkmate had procured *(or should I have said purloined?). We kept said mini fridge in a locker with a hole drilled in the back for the cord. A Tootsie Roll will be good for two years after its production date. Guys who had bailed out would
tell you that hunger was not a problem for the first couple of days but you would find your blood glucose dropping soon thereafter.

When I knew I would be having a particularly busy day flying tow I would stick a large one in my shirt pocket, nothing like maintaining your blood glucose levels. They would soften but never melted. A couple of bites of a Tootsie Roll and a swig of

water and I could keep those cranky glider pilots launching and happy.

Walt Connelly
Former Tow Pilot
Now Happy Helicopter Pilot

Tootsie rolls sound decent.
I have done bananas, baby carrots and various cookies (soft type are neater to eat).
Currently I do several small prewrapped rice krispy treats. Small, boosts sugar, not too dry, not messy, only squish in side pocket.
YMMV

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I take these. love them! and they don't make a mess https://sansmealbar.com/products/sans-bar-coconut

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On 10/10/2022 2:48 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:12:05 PM UTC-4, Papa3 wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:01:29 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side

pockets, they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this
post is killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

I find anything dry/crunchy creates the "crumb problem". Crumbs lead to critters which leads to bad things like gnawing of instrument tubing, cushions etc. or worse, nesting in wings and fuselage.

My go-to items in no particular order:

- Small apples (the ones you buy in bags of 10 or 20)
- "Baby carrots" repacked into small ziplocs
- Energy bars like Cliff Bars. They are soft enough that they hold together even on hot days but without getting too sticky.

P3

You make a good point, crackers are too fragile and create rodent problems. Those Keebler crackers are good , but way too sweet, probably would create an instant heart attack. I did take a couple of Nutter Butter cookies once and they did ok, only made

me thirsty and then the urine flowed. It is not like pulling up to a 7-11 and getting a hot dog, must really be aware of the side effects while flying. Apples have sugar, carrots on the other hand have much better benefits, yet they are much better cold
than hot as we get here in Florida. I might try these little energy packs tomorrow that contain about two ounces of so called instant energy that some of the Keto Guys use. Old Bob, The Purist

About 1 oz each of mixed nuts and dried cherries/cranberries, baby carrots (in a small
baggie to keep the moisture off the other stuff), and a PB&J sandwich, all in a zip lock
bag. A couple low calorie granola bars are backup, should I run out the primary goodies.

That assortment works in hot or cold, and doesn't leave crumbs in the glider.

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 9:11:45 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 10/10/2022 2:48 PM, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:12:05 PM UTC-4, Papa3 wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:01:29 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side

pockets, they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this
post is killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

I find anything dry/crunchy creates the "crumb problem". Crumbs lead to critters which leads to bad things like gnawing of instrument tubing, cushions etc. or worse, nesting in wings and fuselage.

My go-to items in no particular order:

- Small apples (the ones you buy in bags of 10 or 20)
- "Baby carrots" repacked into small ziplocs
- Energy bars like Cliff Bars. They are soft enough that they hold together even on hot days but without getting too sticky.

P3

You make a good point, crackers are too fragile and create rodent problems. Those Keebler crackers are good , but way too sweet, probably would create an instant heart attack. I did take a couple of Nutter Butter cookies once and they did ok, only

made me thirsty and then the urine flowed. It is not like pulling up to a 7-11 and getting a hot dog, must really be aware of the side effects while flying. Apples have sugar, carrots on the other hand have much better benefits, yet they are much better
cold than hot as we get here in Florida. I might try these little energy packs tomorrow that contain about two ounces of so called instant energy that some of the Keto Guys use. Old Bob, The Purist

About 1 oz each of mixed nuts and dried cherries/cranberries, baby carrots (in a small
baggie to keep the moisture off the other stuff), and a PB&J sandwich, all in a zip lock
bag. A couple low calorie granola bars are backup, should I run out the primary goodies.

That assortment works in hot or cold, and doesn't leave crumbs in the glider.

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Nature Bakery fig bars is my number one choice- https://www.naturesbakery.com/shop-snacks/whole-wheat-fig-bars?gclid=Cj0KCQjwhY-aBhCUARIsALNIC06Hk7qdvgs-rLFHMNxnamsscBEq7Wh_q3BoxJSg6mzaqg0TvNNmBPMaAi9FEALw_wcB
Otherwise I’ll do a subway sandwich and or banana. MRE’s for emergency land out/crash food.

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Yes, Fig Newtons. A bit of sugar, some protein, and it doesn't matter if you sit on them.

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On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:01:29 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side pockets,

they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this post is
killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist
Not sure where you're coming from, Ricky-Bobbie. I never recommended crackers. Stirring your ugly pot, please leave my name out of your discharges. You have nothing to tell me.

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On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:06:22 PM UTC-4, Herbert Kilian wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:01:29 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side

pockets, they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this
post is killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

Not sure where you're coming from, Ricky-Bobbie. I never recommended crackers. Stirring your ugly pot, please leave my name out of your discharges. You have nothing to tell me.

Well Herb, I am a bit confused, you went on a soaring forum page last week where I had simply posted a picture from my cockpit of the 27, you made a vile comment about me being ."ANNOYING", why would you do something like that on a different venue where
nothing was said about you or anything other than a posted picture. Maybe you should go back and see the Facebook Soaring Forum and ask yourself why you would post something like that on such a venue. You are beginning to act a lot like Tom. Old Bob. The
Purist

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On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 2:46:20 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:06:22 PM UTC-4, Herbert Kilian wrote:

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:01:29 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Now I have asked to be a bit more civil and I am trying very diligently to obey the Motorglider gents request. I have taken a few snacks on flights, but some are better than others. Don't get upset Herb, but crackers don't fare well in the side

pockets, they get crushed. The best thing that I have found is a granola bar . Cannot take chocolate in Florida, it gets too hot, chocolate melts. I have made myself a vest that I can insert frozen packs into for the purpose of keeping cool. Now this
post is killing me, it is way too benign for OBTP. Maybe I should join RAS Prime. Old Bob, The Purist

Not sure where you're coming from, Ricky-Bobbie. I never recommended crackers. Stirring your ugly pot, please leave my name out of your discharges. You have nothing to tell me.

Well Herb, I am a bit confused, you went on a soaring forum page last week where I had simply posted a picture from my cockpit of the 27, you made a vile comment about me being ."ANNOYING", why would you do something like that on a different venue

where nothing was said about you or anything other than a posted picture. Maybe you should go back and see the Facebook Soaring Forum and ask yourself why you would post something like that on such a venue. You are beginning to act a lot like Tom. Old
Bob. The Purist
Back to the original question, I find that Nature Valley makes several individually packaged bars that hold together and do not make a mess in the cockpit. My favorite is the Nature Valley Oats and Honey Granola bars. Easily stored, well packaged, taste
good and keep your energy up. OBTP

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A footlong subway sandwich cut in two. You never know when you will need both lunch and dinner in flight (or landout).

Wyll

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Bob:
For myself, I take dried fruit roll-ups and similar non messy, non melty things to eat. I also like beef jerky. But an essential part of my land out kit: MILKBONES. That's right, the dog treat. I recommend the big ones. In 49 years of gliding and more
land outs than I can remember, I do remember 4 different farm guard dogs - each of which had been waiting all of its life for that moment when it needed to protect the farm from me and whatever that big white thing that came from the sky was . . . Think
of it a a peace offering.
ROY

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:41:08 AM UTC-4, Roy B. wrote:

Bob:
For myself, I take dried fruit roll-ups and similar non messy, non melty things to eat. I also like beef jerky. But an essential part of my land out kit: MILKBONES. That's right, the dog treat. I recommend the big ones. In 49 years of gliding and more

land outs than I can remember, I do remember 4 different farm guard dogs - each of which had been waiting all of its life for that moment when it needed to protect the farm from me and whatever that big white thing that came from the sky was . . . Think
of it a a peace offering.

ROY

Excellent idea, I never thought of that but probably should, most farms around Florida do have dogs. I do carry a small concealed protection device and a very small airhorn when I take some longer tracks through the swamp areas. We do have big
alligators and lots of nasty snakes, and at times some unfriendly strangers lurking for easy prey. As you know our summer temps can be brutal and therefore anything that can melt is a problem, I guess you will find the same in Arizona.
Not to change the subject from food to comfort, but I also carry two bottles of completely frozen water, I rigged a holder that is directly in front of my fuselage side vent and place the frozen water bottle right in the airflow, as I fly the cool air
really drops the temp in the cockpit rather rapidly and the waiter thaws and makes for a cool drink as the day goes along. That cool H2O along with the Nature Bar comes in handy. Old Bob, The Purist

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Cliff bars - They come in all kinds of flavors. No crumbs. Chewy enough to enjoy the texture.

Twizzlers or Red Vines - Chewy, sugary. Not messy. A small treat for the crew. I prefer the bite sized.

John (OHM)

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Yeah... I got bit by a farm dog while retrieving my partner on a land
out in Colorado.

Dan
5J

On 10/11/22 22:41, Roy B. wrote:

Bob:
For myself, I take dried fruit roll-ups and similar non messy, non melty things to eat. I also like beef jerky. But an essential part of my land out kit: MILKBONES. That's right, the dog treat. I recommend the big ones. In 49 years of gliding and

more land outs than I can remember, I do remember 4 different farm guard dogs - each of which had been waiting all of its life for that moment when it needed to protect the farm from me and whatever that big white thing that came from the sky was . . .
Think of it a a peace offering.

ROY

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:06:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:

Yeah... I got bit by a farm dog while retrieving my partner on a land
out in Colorado.

Yup, dog snacks are the only possible solution. Imagine saying, "Hello Mr Farmer, I just landed a glider in your back field, and I shot your dog . . ."
Probably wouldn't go over very well.
ROY

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:55:14 PM UTC-4, Roy B. wrote:

On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:06:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:

Yeah... I got bit by a farm dog while retrieving my partner on a land
out in Colorado.

Yup, dog snacks are the only possible solution. Imagine saying, "Hello Mr Farmer, I just landed a glider in your back field, and I shot your dog . . ."
Probably wouldn't go over very well.
ROY

Great point, the protection is not for the dogs, only the alligators and snakes. Alligators can weigh well over 1000 pounds and run faster than a horse, get near a nest and you have a serious problem. OBTP

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On Wednesday, 12 October 2022 at 20:54:25 UTC+1, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:55:14 PM UTC-4, Roy B. wrote:

On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:06:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:

Yeah... I got bit by a farm dog while retrieving my partner on a land
out in Colorado.

Yup, dog snacks are the only possible solution. Imagine saying, "Hello Mr Farmer, I just landed a glider in your back field, and I shot your dog . . ."
Probably wouldn't go over very well.
ROY

Great point, the protection is not for the dogs, only the alligators and snakes. Alligators can weigh well over 1000 pounds and run faster than a horse, get near a nest and you have a serious problem. OBTP

What is a "small concealed protection device", as per your earlier post?

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What is a "small concealed protection device", as per your earlier post?

Please, please don't ask! We're bound for another second-amendment, "why a gun in a glider is essential to freedom (cus, ah, 'Murica!)" thread...

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:16:39 AM UTC-4, GliderCZ wrote:

What is a "small concealed protection device", as per your earlier post?

Please, please don't ask! We're bound for another second-amendment, "why a gun in a glider is essential to freedom (cus, ah, 'Murica!)" thread...

I’ve taken to carrying my Glock after a friend landed out next to a Mountain Lion.

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Actually the farmer was pretty nice. He had what looked like a dozen
dogs and they were are all crowded around but one of them circled around
back and got my ankle. The farmer gave me alcohol (isopropyl) and some
paper towels to clean up.

That aside, he was very helpful, using his tractor with front loader to
take down his fence and then to tow our LS-6a out of the field so that
we could load it up.

The dog had its shots and I got a tetanus shot just to be sure. No
problems...

Oh, and to stay on topic, I like apples and nuts in flight.

Dan
5J

On 10/12/22 10:55, Roy B. wrote:

On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:06:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:

Yeah... I got bit by a farm dog while retrieving my partner on a land
out in Colorado.

Yup, dog snacks are the only possible solution. Imagine saying, "Hello Mr Farmer, I just landed a glider in your back field, and I shot your dog . . ."
Probably wouldn't go over very well.
ROY

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:11:18 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:

Actually the farmer was pretty nice. He had what looked like a dozen
dogs and they were are all crowded around but one of them circled around back and got my ankle. The farmer gave me alcohol (isopropyl) and some
paper towels to clean up.

That aside, he was very helpful, using his tractor with front loader to
take down his fence and then to tow our LS-6a out of the field so that
we could load it up.

The dog had its shots and I got a tetanus shot just to be sure. No problems...

Oh, and to stay on topic, I like apples and nuts in flight.

Dan
5J

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult. I do like crackers, yet they crush easily, I do like the idea of some of the fruit filled softer type snacks, and the
jerky sounds good except for the smell and the greasy hands. I grow lots of mangoes and I have dried a few and taken the slices with me which turn out to be very good. Dried Mangoes are delicious, supply energy and easily stored and will not melt. Try a
nice dried Valencia Pride mango or a Carrie, they will make you fly better, especially the motorglider guys. Old Bob, The Purist

On 10/12/22 10:55, Roy B. wrote:

On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:06:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:

Yeah... I got bit by a farm dog while retrieving my partner on a land
out in Colorado.

Yup, dog snacks are the only possible solution. Imagine saying, "Hello Mr Farmer, I just landed a glider in your back field, and I shot your dog . . ."
Probably wouldn't go over very well.
ROY

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:52:41 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:11:18 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:

Actually the farmer was pretty nice. He had what looked like a dozen
dogs and they were are all crowded around but one of them circled around back and got my ankle. The farmer gave me alcohol (isopropyl) and some paper towels to clean up.

That aside, he was very helpful, using his tractor with front loader to take down his fence and then to tow our LS-6a out of the field so that
we could load it up.

The dog had its shots and I got a tetanus shot just to be sure. No problems...

Oh, and to stay on topic, I like apples and nuts in flight.

Dan
5J

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult. I do like crackers, yet they crush easily, I do like the idea of some of the fruit filled softer type snacks, and the

jerky sounds good except for the smell and the greasy hands. I grow lots of mangoes and I have dried a few and taken the slices with me which turn out to be very good. Dried Mangoes are delicious, supply energy and easily stored and will not melt. Try a
nice dried Valencia Pride mango or a Carrie, they will make you fly better, especially the motorglider guys. Old Bob, The Purist

On 10/12/22 10:55, Roy B. wrote:

On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:06:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:

Yeah... I got bit by a farm dog while retrieving my partner on a land >> out in Colorado.

Yup, dog snacks are the only possible solution. Imagine saying, "Hello Mr Farmer, I just landed a glider in your back field, and I shot your dog . . ."
Probably wouldn't go over very well.
ROY

Hey PottyMouth, why don't you collect ROAD KILL for your snacks? It certainly reflects you demeanor...

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On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:27:30 AM UTC-4, 2G wrote:

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:52:41 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:11:18 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:

Actually the farmer was pretty nice. He had what looked like a dozen dogs and they were are all crowded around but one of them circled around back and got my ankle. The farmer gave me alcohol (isopropyl) and some paper towels to clean up.

That aside, he was very helpful, using his tractor with front loader to take down his fence and then to tow our LS-6a out of the field so that we could load it up.

The dog had its shots and I got a tetanus shot just to be sure. No problems...

Oh, and to stay on topic, I like apples and nuts in flight.

Dan
5J

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult. I do like crackers, yet they crush easily, I do like the idea of some of the fruit filled softer type snacks, and the

jerky sounds good except for the smell and the greasy hands. I grow lots of mangoes and I have dried a few and taken the slices with me which turn out to be very good. Dried Mangoes are delicious, supply energy and easily stored and will not melt. Try a
nice dried Valencia Pride mango or a Carrie, they will make you fly better, especially the motorglider guys. Old Bob, The Purist

On 10/12/22 10:55, Roy B. wrote:

On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:06:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:

Yeah... I got bit by a farm dog while retrieving my partner on a land >> out in Colorado.

Yup, dog snacks are the only possible solution. Imagine saying, "Hello Mr Farmer, I just landed a glider in your back field, and I shot your dog . . ."
Probably wouldn't go over very well.
ROY

Hey PottyMouth, why don't you collect ROAD KILL for your snacks? It certainly reflects you demeanor...

Definitely, must be dementia setting in, why all the anger?
Now back on subject, dried mango and water is very good, there are many dried fruits that you can buy at the market, they all are pretty good and store well. Whatever you do remove them from the cockpit after the flight, rodents can enter. Old Bob, The
Purist

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Try a couple of peanuts with a bite of apple.

Now motorglider guys, with their higher level thought processes,
intelligence, hand-eye coordination, and motor skills are capable of
handling peanuts, an apple, stick, rudder, and flaps at the same time.
Once you come over to the dark side, Bob, you'll understand. ;-)

Dan
5J

On 10/13/22 14:52, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult.

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On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 11:38:02 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:

Try a couple of peanuts with a bite of apple.

Now motorglider guys, with their higher level thought processes, intelligence, hand-eye coordination, and motor skills are capable of
handling peanuts, an apple, stick, rudder, and flaps at the same time.
Once you come over to the dark side, Bob, you'll understand. ;-)

Dan
5J
On 10/13/22 14:52, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult.

Dan, it sounds tempting, the peanut butter is the main draw! Old Bob, The Purist

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On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:07:11 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 11:38:02 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:

Try a couple of peanuts with a bite of apple.

Now motorglider guys, with their higher level thought processes, intelligence, hand-eye coordination, and motor skills are capable of handling peanuts, an apple, stick, rudder, and flaps at the same time.
Once you come over to the dark side, Bob, you'll understand. ;-)

Dan
5J
On 10/13/22 14:52, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult.

Dan, it sounds tempting, the peanut butter is the main draw! Old Bob, The Purist

A cup of Cuban coffee and pure fasting until the flight is over. ;-)

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On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:32:37 AM UTC-4, Ernesto / 2TK wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:07:11 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 11:38:02 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:

Try a couple of peanuts with a bite of apple.

Now motorglider guys, with their higher level thought processes, intelligence, hand-eye coordination, and motor skills are capable of handling peanuts, an apple, stick, rudder, and flaps at the same time. Once you come over to the dark side, Bob, you'll understand. ;-)

Dan
5J
On 10/13/22 14:52, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult.

Dan, it sounds tempting, the peanut butter is the main draw! Old Bob, The Purist

A cup of Cuban coffee and pure fasting until the flight is over. ;-)

There used to be something called Mrs. May's something or other - they sold out to Dole. Really nice nut and seed clusters about 1" cube, no chocolate. Unfortunately Dole only sells them in little bags at airport kiosks for $7 a bag. Sam's Club has
something very similar at reasonable prices. They don't melt unless you let them sit at 100F or so.

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On 10/16/2022 6:23 AM, Tony wrote:

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:32:37 AM UTC-4, Ernesto / 2TK wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:07:11 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 11:38:02 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:

Try a couple of peanuts with a bite of apple.

Now motorglider guys, with their higher level thought processes,
intelligence, hand-eye coordination, and motor skills are capable of
handling peanuts, an apple, stick, rudder, and flaps at the same time. >>>> Once you come over to the dark side, Bob, you'll understand. ;-)

Dan
5J
On 10/13/22 14:52, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult.

Dan, it sounds tempting, the peanut butter is the main draw! Old Bob, The Purist

A cup of Cuban coffee and pure fasting until the flight is over. ;-)

There used to be something called Mrs. May's something or other - they sold out to Dole. Really nice nut and seed clusters about 1" cube, no chocolate. Unfortunately Dole only sells them in little bags at airport kiosks for $7 a bag. Sam's Club has

something very similar at reasonable prices. They don't melt unless you let them sit at 100F or so.
Help is on the way (sort of - "Out of stock")! Walmart has 5 oz bags for $9, and they are
Dole snacks, not just "something similar".

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dole-Snack-Bites-Sunflower-Seed-Clusters-Crunchy-Nut-Clusters-5-Oz-Resealable-Pouch/46780561

Also on Amazon, with the same problem, but should be in stock before the next season, eh?

--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:49:37 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 10/16/2022 6:23 AM, Tony wrote:

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:32:37 AM UTC-4, Ernesto / 2TK wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:07:11 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 11:38:02 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote: >>>> Try a couple of peanuts with a bite of apple.

Now motorglider guys, with their higher level thought processes,
intelligence, hand-eye coordination, and motor skills are capable of >>>> handling peanuts, an apple, stick, rudder, and flaps at the same time. >>>> Once you come over to the dark side, Bob, you'll understand. ;-)

Dan
5J
On 10/13/22 14:52, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult.

Dan, it sounds tempting, the peanut butter is the main draw! Old Bob, The Purist

A cup of Cuban coffee and pure fasting until the flight is over. ;-)

There used to be something called Mrs. May's something or other - they sold out to Dole. Really nice nut and seed clusters about 1" cube, no chocolate. Unfortunately Dole only sells them in little bags at airport kiosks for $7 a bag. Sam's Club has

something very similar at reasonable prices. They don't melt unless you let them sit at 100F or so.

Help is on the way (sort of - "Out of stock")! Walmart has 5 oz bags for $9, and they are
Dole snacks, not just "something similar".

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dole-Snack-Bites-Sunflower-Seed-Clusters-Crunchy-Nut-Clusters-5-Oz-Resealable-Pouch/46780561

Also on Amazon, with the same problem, but should be in stock before the next season, eh?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Just today I tried the best snack that I have ever taken on a flight, they are , Larabars, and they come in different flavors. ranging from blueberry, lemon and banana along with many more. They have no sugar, considered healthy and no not melt! Today I
tried the banana bread bars, they are delicious, and easily stored. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:44:55 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:49:37 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 10/16/2022 6:23 AM, Tony wrote:

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:32:37 AM UTC-4, Ernesto / 2TK wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:07:11 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 11:38:02 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote: >>>> Try a couple of peanuts with a bite of apple.

Now motorglider guys, with their higher level thought processes,
intelligence, hand-eye coordination, and motor skills are capable of >>>> handling peanuts, an apple, stick, rudder, and flaps at the same time.
Once you come over to the dark side, Bob, you'll understand. ;-)

Dan
5J
On 10/13/22 14:52, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult.

Dan, it sounds tempting, the peanut butter is the main draw! Old Bob, The Purist

A cup of Cuban coffee and pure fasting until the flight is over. ;-)

There used to be something called Mrs. May's something or other - they sold out to Dole. Really nice nut and seed clusters about 1" cube, no chocolate. Unfortunately Dole only sells them in little bags at airport kiosks for $7 a bag. Sam's Club has

something very similar at reasonable prices. They don't melt unless you let them sit at 100F or so.

Help is on the way (sort of - "Out of stock")! Walmart has 5 oz bags for $9, and they are
Dole snacks, not just "something similar".

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dole-Snack-Bites-Sunflower-Seed-Clusters-Crunchy-Nut-Clusters-5-Oz-Resealable-Pouch/46780561

Also on Amazon, with the same problem, but should be in stock before the next season, eh?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Just today I tried the best snack that I have ever taken on a flight, they are , Larabars, and they come in different flavors. ranging from blueberry, lemon and banana along with many more. They have no sugar, considered healthy and no not melt! Today

I tried the banana bread bars, they are delicious, and easily stored. Old Bob, The Purist
That's them, Eric, but man that's pricey - get the 2# bag of Kirkland knockoffs

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On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 9:20:11 PM UTC-4, Tony wrote:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:44:55 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:49:37 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 10/16/2022 6:23 AM, Tony wrote:

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:32:37 AM UTC-4, Ernesto / 2TK wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:07:11 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 11:38:02 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote: >>>> Try a couple of peanuts with a bite of apple.

Now motorglider guys, with their higher level thought processes, >>>> intelligence, hand-eye coordination, and motor skills are capable of
handling peanuts, an apple, stick, rudder, and flaps at the same time.
Once you come over to the dark side, Bob, you'll understand. ;-) >>>>
Dan
5J
On 10/13/22 14:52, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I do carry an apple at times, but apples are not my favorite except with crunchy peanut butter and that makes things difficult.

Dan, it sounds tempting, the peanut butter is the main draw! Old Bob, The Purist

A cup of Cuban coffee and pure fasting until the flight is over. ;-)

There used to be something called Mrs. May's something or other - they sold out to Dole. Really nice nut and seed clusters about 1" cube, no chocolate. Unfortunately Dole only sells them in little bags at airport kiosks for $7 a bag. Sam's Club

has something very similar at reasonable prices. They don't melt unless you let them sit at 100F or so.

Help is on the way (sort of - "Out of stock")! Walmart has 5 oz bags for $9, and they are
Dole snacks, not just "something similar".

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dole-Snack-Bites-Sunflower-Seed-Clusters-Crunchy-Nut-Clusters-5-Oz-Resealable-Pouch/46780561

Also on Amazon, with the same problem, but should be in stock before the next season, eh?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Just today I tried the best snack that I have ever taken on a flight, they are , Larabars, and they come in different flavors. ranging from blueberry, lemon and banana along with many more. They have no sugar, considered healthy and no not melt!

Today I tried the banana bread bars, they are delicious, and easily stored. Old Bob, The Purist

That's them, Eric, but man that's pricey - get the 2# bag of Kirkland knockoffs

O I guess it was Costco: https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-cashew-clusters%2C-2-lbs.product.100333877.html

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On 10/16/2022 6:22 PM, Tony wrote:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 9:20:11 PM UTC-4, Tony wrote:

...

Just today I tried the best snack that I have ever taken on a flight, they are , Larabars, and they come in different flavors. ranging from blueberry, lemon and banana along with many more. They have no sugar, considered healthy and no not melt!

Today I tried the banana bread bars, they are delicious, and easily stored. Old Bob, The Purist

That's them, Eric, but man that's pricey - get the 2# bag of Kirkland knockoffs

O I guess it was Costco: https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-cashew-clusters%2C-2-lbs.product.100333877.html

As a former Hawaiian, I lean towards Dole, but at that price, I'm willing to pretend Dole
made them for Costco :^} Tomorrow's Costco day.
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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Another thing that is pretty good to eat in flight and doesn't get squishy in high temperature, is that colorful, layered liquorish candy called "Allsorts". Put them in zip lock sandwich bags to prevent ants.

I've tried the energy gel packets that they sell in sporting goods stores but they are expensive, the caffeine makes you urinate frequently, and they make a sticky mess if you are not careful. Also - it's nice to chew on something and these have the
consistency of pie filling.
ROY

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On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 06:26:22 UTC+1, Roy B. wrote:

Another thing that is pretty good to eat in flight and doesn't get squishy in high temperature, is that colorful, layered liquorish candy called "Allsorts". Put them in zip lock sandwich bags to prevent ants.

I've tried the energy gel packets that they sell in sporting goods stores but they are expensive, the caffeine makes you urinate frequently, and they make a sticky mess if you are not careful. Also - it's nice to chew on something and these have the

consistency of pie filling.

ROY

Soreen malt loaf, individual lunch box sized packs. Just the right GI level. No crumbs. Tasty. Don't melt. Doesn't matter if they get squashed.

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On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 14:44:17 UTC+1, jpg...@gmail.com wrote:

Soreen malt loaf, individual lunch box sized packs. Just the right GI level. No crumbs. Tasty. Don't melt. Doesn't matter if they get squashed.

Idea: that looks quite like the tea loaf my mum sometimes makes

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Rx bars have no crumbs and a lot less sugar than cliff and the others

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On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 14:58:25 UTC+1, andy l wrote:

On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 14:44:17 UTC+1, jpg...@gmail.com wrote:

Soreen malt loaf, individual lunch box sized packs. Just the right GI level. No crumbs. Tasty. Don't melt. Doesn't matter if they get squashed.

Idea: that looks quite like the tea loaf my mum sometimes makes

Malt loaf is a fair bit more dense and squishy than the usual tea loaf.

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I've settled on Clif Bars, though I still throw in a few Power Bars occasionally (chocolate doesn't soften in the heat as much as peanut butter or vanilla do). I'm a big fan of energy gels when distance running but wouldn't use them in the cockpit
because, as Roy, said, they can be sticky to fuss with. If you like that concept, Clif Bloks provide the same nutrition but in gummi-like cubes that are designed for runners and cyclists. Certain flavors of both the gels and the bloks have caffeine, but
that's not a negative for me.

Chip Bearden
ASW 24 "JB"

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On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 2:52:13 PM UTC-4, chip.b...@gmail.com wrote:

I've settled on Clif Bars, though I still throw in a few Power Bars occasionally (chocolate doesn't soften in the heat as much as peanut butter or vanilla do). I'm a big fan of energy gels when distance running but wouldn't use them in the cockpit

because, as Roy, said, they can be sticky to fuss with. If you like that concept, Clif Bloks provide the same nutrition but in gummi-like cubes that are designed for runners and cyclists. Certain flavors of both the gels and the bloks have caffeine, but
that's not a negative for me.

Chip Bearden
ASW 24 "JB"

Just today I found more Larabars in the nutritional section of the market. I bought the banana and the blueberry packs, which consist of only one bar per pack, they are excellent. OBTP

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Larabars are available on Amazon in quite a few colors.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Larabars&ref=nb_sb_noss

- John (OHM)

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On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:05:36 PM UTC-4, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:

Larabars are available on Amazon in quite a few colors.

The lemon ones are pretty good, I think.
ROY

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I like to take carrots, celery, sometimes nuts and raison. I freeze my camel bag solid so I have cold water on hot days.

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