Any wave camps that soaring pilots would recommend?
No camps that I know of at Moriarty but, if you have a self launcher,
there's plenty of wave here. Tows are getting scarce here except for
the club on weekends.
Dan
5J
On 12/6/22 13:12, Lawrence Spinetta wrote:
Any wave camps that soaring pilots would recommend?
We fly wave every week or two here at the home of the Minden Wave Cowboys, as the Europeans call us. We would be happy to give a tutorial of the Sierra wave, and help any visitors all that we can. Tows are available every day of the week all year bySoaring NV. Rather than looking for a wave camp at a preset date, it might be better to look at the weather and schedule a trip during a wave period.
Hi Lawrence,in an instant. I have flown wave with people who have said "so that's what it's all about. I don't want anything further to do with it."
Wave periods are 1 day prefrontal when we have west winds perpendicular to the north/south orientation of the Sierra mountains.
You should buy Dancing with the Wind by Clement to better understand the mechanics.
Wave is not for everyone. You have to be willing to put up with extreme turbulence for the pay off of the best visuals on the planet and amazing flights.
Going up and coming down in a wave box is pretty standard. Flying cross country in wave is anything but. When it is going well, you are on top of the world. When you fall into the rotor you wonder if the wings will stay attached and it goes to hell
So tell me again why you want to do this?I've flown in the Minden wave a few times, but not when it was strong and turbulent. Since
cheers,
Jim
On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:46:36 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
No camps that I know of at Moriarty but, if you have a self launcher,
there's plenty of wave here. Tows are getting scarce here except for
the club on weekends.
Dan
5J
On 12/6/22 13:12, Lawrence Spinetta wrote:
Any wave camps that soaring pilots would recommend?
Thanks, Dan. I don't have a self-launcher. When are good dates for potential wave flights? Winter? Spring?
Wave novice here.
Back in Minden in the early 2000's the line man is hooking up the rope to my Asw 20 on a wave day.
He's says to me " Stay on the rope unless the tug rolls inverted or is pointing back at you"
My whole 1:30 flight was pretty radical.
Nick
T
The really good waves seem to have really vigorous rotors aka mechanical bulls. Even more fun for instructors with a student in front. Make sure your shoulder straps are super tight to avoid headaches.
If you are wondering why you ever took up gliding, that's a common sentiment in rotors
On the day that I completed my Diamond Badge I flew the tow plane for a dozen or so flights before getting into the glider. I recall so much turbulence on the climb that my only points of contact with the Pawnee
were the harness, my right hand on the stick and my left hand on the overhead fuselage tubing. I saw the glider off my right wing.
It was similar when I was on the back end of the rope except I now had
the additional task of trying to stay in position behind the tug. Then
there was the wonderful silky smoothness of the wave after topping the rotor!
My flight was in December, IIRC, and it was cold in the Colorado
Rockies, so I limited my time to getting up and getting down. My wave flights are now limited to about 17,700' MSL. I never want to go that
high again without heat!
Dan
5J
On 12/8/22 17:57, George Haeh wrote:
The really good waves seem to have really vigorous rotors aka mechanical bulls. Even more fun for instructors with a student in front. Make sure your shoulder straps are super tight to avoid headaches.
If you are wondering why you ever took up gliding, that's a common sentiment in rotors
to not write a signature on the flight log. Ever since that day, that third diamond has been my nemesis! I rue the day!)To the O.P.: wave-flying is not confined to the Rockies and west of it! There are several wave flying sites in the east as well. I flew my Diamond altitude over Petersburg, WVa.I'm sad to say that at present, there is no wave window available in Petersburg, WV. As far as I know, I'm the last one to successfully climb into the wave window at Petersburg in 2013. (and I didn't get the diamond altitude because the Nano3 decided
They have a wave window to FL230 and because one can release low and climb through the rotor to connect, there is plenty of altitude gain to meet the requirements.
I've been working with the FSDO and ATC for the past 2 years to get a wave window established there.equipped with 1090ES. QQ is equipped in such a manner, but I don't know many other gliders around here that are. It might just be me who makes use of this new wave window.
Yes. Literally. 2 years.
My persistence is paying off. I'm really close to having one before March 2023.
At present, it's not clear if we'll be able to have gliders that aren't transponder and ADS-B equipped in the wave window. Right now, it looks like you'll have to be equipped to do this wave window. It's also not clear as to if the gliders have to be
Skyline Soaring club used to have another wave window in the Shenandoah valley, just west of New Market, VA. It was canceled by the FAA in 2020. It was in the one spot in the entire valley that had no wave at FL180 when the wind was coming from thenorthwest. It's really cool: Get a plot of SkySight on a wave day, show FL230, and draw a box where that wave window was. You'll never find any red in that box. No wave there. Just to the south there's wave galore! But not in that box. There's only been
To the O.P.: wave-flying is not confined to the Rockies and west of it! There are several wave flying sites in the east as well. I flew my Diamond altitude over Petersburg, WVa.
They have a wave window to FL230 and because one can release low and climb through the rotor to connect, there is plenty of altitude gain to meet the requirements.
to not write a signature on the flight log. Ever since that day, that third diamond has been my nemesis! I rue the day!)To the O.P.: wave-flying is not confined to the Rockies and west of it! There are several wave flying sites in the east as well. I flew my Diamond altitude over Petersburg, WVa.I'm sad to say that at present, there is no wave window available in Petersburg, WV. As far as I know, I'm the last one to successfully climb into the wave window at Petersburg in 2013. (and I didn't get the diamond altitude because the Nano3 decided
They have a wave window to FL230 and because one can release low and climb through the rotor to connect, there is plenty of altitude gain to meet the requirements.
I've been working with the FSDO and ATC for the past 2 years to get a wave window established there.equipped with 1090ES. QQ is equipped in such a manner, but I don't know many other gliders around here that are. It might just be me who makes use of this new wave window.
Yes. Literally. 2 years.
My persistence is paying off. I'm really close to having one before March 2023.
At present, it's not clear if we'll be able to have gliders that aren't transponder and ADS-B equipped in the wave window. Right now, it looks like you'll have to be equipped to do this wave window. It's also not clear as to if the gliders have to be
Skyline Soaring club used to have another wave window in the Shenandoah valley, just west of New Market, VA. It was canceled by the FAA in 2020. It was in the one spot in the entire valley that had no wave at FL180 when the wind was coming from thenorthwest. It's really cool: Get a plot of SkySight on a wave day, show FL230, and draw a box where that wave window was. You'll never find any red in that box. No wave there. Just to the south there's wave galore! But not in that box. There's only been
the pointer of a friend's OAT hid behind the cover, which meant it was well below -40C.
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