It rained pretty heavy yesterday but it took this dayhlight off in order
to pick up again tomorrow.
IK took advamtage of it to do 27 milexs on my flat route.
There was one group of 9 riders out besides perhaps 8 or 10 more simgles passing me by like I was standing still even people riding gravel bikes
with fat tires. Oh well, I could have been listening to Frank tell me that
he knows all about FSA 30 mm cranksets and you definitely can't have a
crank fall off because he is the world's foremost expert on crank installation and he knows exactly how and why my crank fell off.
But aside from that, I bought a 170 mm Dura Ace Crank to install on one of
my good bikes. I want to see if it has any improvements over the 172.5.
I intend to install the LTWoo 10 speed group on the small ReRosa. If my friend doesn't like the way it rides I will donate it to my oldest step- daughter. Although she is a runner with every award for her age group in
this area, it is my opinion that she has to start riding a bike to stress
her knees less. And if she doesn't like riding a bike instead of running
she has a daughter that will be able ride this top end bike. And they live close to the meeting place for the Fremont Freewheelers rides.
If the grand daughter ends up riding the bike I will have to ride with
them to teach her to ride and pick up the tab at the coffee/pastry shop. I know that children are very fast learners and I am really slow these days
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
It rained pretty heavy yesterday but it took this dayhlight off in order
to pick up again tomorrow.
IK took advamtage of it to do 27 milexs on my flat route.
There was one group of 9 riders out besides perhaps 8 or 10 more simgles
passing me by like I was standing still even people riding gravel bikes
with fat tires. Oh well, I could have been listening to Frank tell me that >> he knows all about FSA 30 mm cranksets and you definitely can't have a
crank fall off because he is the world's foremost expert on crank
installation and he knows exactly how and why my crank fell off.
Well you’ve posted about getting slower, and Gravel bikes are well road bikes so capable of being quick.
Takes some doing for a crank to fall off to be honest, my Gravel bike
bottom bracket is fairly stuffed and before I could feel any movement
rocking the crank I could feel it riding.
But aside from that, I bought a 170 mm Dura Ace Crank to install on one of >> my good bikes. I want to see if it has any improvements over the 172.5.
I don’t seem to be princess and pea with bike fit, and thus haven’t explored anything like that.
Interesting technology the LTWoo stuff or mainly the cost of its
I intend to install the LTWoo 10 speed group on the small ReRosa. If my
friend doesn't like the way it rides I will donate it to my oldest step-
daughter. Although she is a runner with every award for her age group in
this area, it is my opinion that she has to start riding a bike to stress
her knees less. And if she doesn't like riding a bike instead of running
she has a daughter that will be able ride this top end bike. And they live >> close to the meeting place for the Fremont Freewheelers rides.
If the grand daughter ends up riding the bike I will have to ride with
them to teach her to ride and pick up the tab at the coffee/pastry shop. I >> know that children are very fast learners and I am really slow these days
electronics groupsets as ever it’s the support as and when stuff breaks.
Mate had his rear mech SRAM electronic rear mech die recently, which was a warranty job, how well that works with LTWoo kit?
Let alone just being electronic isn’t enough of value for me personally. This said the cables on said bike are definitely toast and along with
bottom bracket are due to be replaced about a year old so well within expected timeframe.
On Wed Dec 18 08:11:05 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 12/17/2024 5:28 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
It rained pretty heavy yesterday but it took this dayhlight off in order >>>> to pick up again tomorrow.
IK took advamtage of it to do 27 milexs on my flat route.
There was one group of 9 riders out besides perhaps 8 or 10 more simgles >>>> passing me by like I was standing still even people riding gravel bikes >>>> with fat tires. Oh well, I could have been listening to Frank tell me that >>>> he knows all about FSA 30 mm cranksets and you definitely can't have a >>>> crank fall off because he is the world's foremost expert on crank
installation and he knows exactly how and why my crank fell off.
Well you?ve posted about getting slower, and Gravel bikes are well road
bikes so capable of being quick.
Takes some doing for a crank to fall off to be honest, my Gravel bike
bottom bracket is fairly stuffed and before I could feel any movement
rocking the crank I could feel it riding.
I don?t seem to be princess and pea with bike fit, and thus haven?t
But aside from that, I bought a 170 mm Dura Ace Crank to install on one of >>>> my good bikes. I want to see if it has any improvements over the 172.5. >>>
explored anything like that.
Interesting technology the LTWoo stuff or mainly the cost of its
I intend to install the LTWoo 10 speed group on the small ReRosa. If my >>>> friend doesn't like the way it rides I will donate it to my oldest step- >>>> daughter. Although she is a runner with every award for her age group in >>>> this area, it is my opinion that she has to start riding a bike to stress >>>> her knees less. And if she doesn't like riding a bike instead of running >>>> she has a daughter that will be able ride this top end bike. And they live >>>> close to the meeting place for the Fremont Freewheelers rides.
If the grand daughter ends up riding the bike I will have to ride with >>>> them to teach her to ride and pick up the tab at the coffee/pastry shop. I >>>> know that children are very fast learners and I am really slow these days >>>>
electronics groupsets as ever it?s the support as and when stuff breaks. >>>
Mate had his rear mech SRAM electronic rear mech die recently, which was a >>> warranty job, how well that works with LTWoo kit?
Let alone just being electronic isn?t enough of value for me personally. >>> This said the cables on said bike are definitely toast and along with
bottom bracket are due to be replaced about a year old so well within
expected timeframe.
I never trust manufacturers where the brand name looks like a random
string of letters strung together. Although L-TWOO (that's the actual
logo, https://www.ltwoo.com/foot/About_us/About_us) seems to have decent
reviews, the fact that it's only available on ebay in the US gives me pause. >>
I built up my gravel conversion last winter with a cable Microshift
drivetrain. It's 2x10 so it was incredibly cheap on close out ($250) for
shifters and derailleurs). I've had zero problems with it. Set up was
easy, shifting is precise, reliable, and positive. The only downside is
that it's a bit heavy, but unless you're a weight weenie this isn't much
of an issue.
By the way - the LTWoo cost $120 for the levers and derailleurs.
On Wed Dec 18 08:11:05 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 12/17/2024 5:28 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
It rained pretty heavy yesterday but it took this dayhlight off in order >>>> to pick up again tomorrow.
IK took advamtage of it to do 27 milexs on my flat route.
There was one group of 9 riders out besides perhaps 8 or 10 more simgles >>>> passing me by like I was standing still even people riding gravel bikes >>>> with fat tires. Oh well, I could have been listening to Frank tell me that >>>> he knows all about FSA 30 mm cranksets and you definitely can't have a >>>> crank fall off because he is the world's foremost expert on crank
installation and he knows exactly how and why my crank fell off.
Well you?ve posted about getting slower, and Gravel bikes are well road
bikes so capable of being quick.
Takes some doing for a crank to fall off to be honest, my Gravel bike
bottom bracket is fairly stuffed and before I could feel any movement
rocking the crank I could feel it riding.
I don?t seem to be princess and pea with bike fit, and thus haven?t
But aside from that, I bought a 170 mm Dura Ace Crank to install on one of >>>> my good bikes. I want to see if it has any improvements over the 172.5. >>>
explored anything like that.
Interesting technology the LTWoo stuff or mainly the cost of its
I intend to install the LTWoo 10 speed group on the small ReRosa. If my >>>> friend doesn't like the way it rides I will donate it to my oldest step- >>>> daughter. Although she is a runner with every award for her age group in >>>> this area, it is my opinion that she has to start riding a bike to stress >>>> her knees less. And if she doesn't like riding a bike instead of running >>>> she has a daughter that will be able ride this top end bike. And they live >>>> close to the meeting place for the Fremont Freewheelers rides.
If the grand daughter ends up riding the bike I will have to ride with >>>> them to teach her to ride and pick up the tab at the coffee/pastry shop. I >>>> know that children are very fast learners and I am really slow these days >>>>
electronics groupsets as ever it?s the support as and when stuff breaks. >>>
Mate had his rear mech SRAM electronic rear mech die recently, which was a >>> warranty job, how well that works with LTWoo kit?
Let alone just being electronic isn?t enough of value for me personally. >>> This said the cables on said bike are definitely toast and along with
bottom bracket are due to be replaced about a year old so well within
expected timeframe.
I never trust manufacturers where the brand name looks like a random
string of letters strung together. Although L-TWOO (that's the actual
logo, https://www.ltwoo.com/foot/About_us/About_us) seems to have decent
reviews, the fact that it's only available on ebay in the US gives me pause. >>
I built up my gravel conversion last winter with a cable Microshift
drivetrain. It's 2x10 so it was incredibly cheap on close out ($250) for
shifters and derailleurs). I've had zero problems with it. Set up was
easy, shifting is precise, reliable, and positive. The only downside is
that it's a bit heavy, but unless you're a weight weenie this isn't much
of an issue.
I bought an 11 speed LTWoo shift group a couple of years ago and it worked very well. At that time I was using full Campagnolo so I only bought them to look at. I offered them for free to anyone on the group that would like them but no one opted.sets of them that I will try the LTWoo on the DeRosa Merak for my friend. If the levers don't work reliably I will replace them with the Dura Ace 7900.
In the meantime I have changed completely back to 10 speeds so since the shift group is amazingly cheap and they shift like the Campagnolo shifters, I decided to give these a try. Dura Ace 7800 with wires everywhere are troublesome but I have so many
I assume that you don't have the financial status to test other things
so I can understand your hesitancy to try an unknown brand;
I built up my gravel conversion last winter with a cable Microshift drivetrain. It's 2x10 so it was incredibly cheap on close out ($250) for shifters and derailleurs). I've had zero problems with it. Set up was
easy, shifting is precise, reliable, and positive. The only downside is
that it's a bit heavy, but unless you're a weight weenie this isn't much
of an issue.
On Tue Dec 17 21:09:02 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
AFAIR, Tom has never given us the details on how and why his crank fell
off, and how he could not notice the problem before it completely
disconnected. I suspect he's way too embarrassed about it to tell us.
But it ought to be quite a story!
Andrew gave the torque settings necessary and I could not meet these settings with my bottom bracket width.
On 12/18/2024 8:11 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
I built up my gravel conversion last winter with a cable Microshift
drivetrain. It's 2x10 so it was incredibly cheap on close out ($250) for
shifters and derailleurs). I've had zero problems with it. Set up was
easy, shifting is precise, reliable, and positive. The only downside is
that it's a bit heavy, but unless you're a weight weenie this isn't much
of an issue.
Whenever I'm evaluating "a little heavy" I do it as percentage change in weight of the entire bike+rider package. That's the only way it matters.
On 12/18/2024 11:22 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Dec 17 21:09:02 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
AFAIR, Tom has never given us the details on how and why his crank fell
off, and how he could not notice the problem before it completely
disconnected. I suspect he's way too embarrassed about it to tell us.
But it ought to be quite a story!
Andrew gave the torque settings necessary and I could not meet these
settings with my bottom bracket width.
That's no more informative than "Duh, I couldn't do it." Anyone with
decent mechanical ability would have analyzed the problem and solved it before taking the bike on the road.
And even someone with zero mechanical ability would have noticed the
crank arm so loose it was ready to fall off, long before it actually hit
the pavement!
Really, Tom, I'm astonished that you're pretending this was somehow normal!
On Wed Dec 18 21:06:54 2024 Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
On 12/18/2024 11:22 AM, cyclintom wrote:My old MTB the interface between the cranks and bottom bracket wore out,
On Tue Dec 17 21:09:02 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
AFAIR, Tom has never given us the details on how and why his crank fell >>>>> off, and how he could not notice the problem before it completely
disconnected. I suspect he's way too embarrassed about it to tell us. >>>>> But it ought to be quite a story!
Andrew gave the torque settings necessary and I could not meet these
settings with my bottom bracket width.
That's no more informative than "Duh, I couldn't do it." Anyone with
decent mechanical ability would have analyzed the problem and solved it
before taking the bike on the road.
And even someone with zero mechanical ability would have noticed the
crank arm so loose it was ready to fall off, long before it actually hit >>> the pavement!
Really, Tom, I'm astonished that you're pretending this was somehow normal! >>>
enough that even torquing up it still had a wobble pedalling though little >> play if one just pulled the pedals about, ie didn?t take any mechanical
knowledge to know something was up!
Roger Merriman
Roger, you're better than listening to Liebermann, Krygowski or Flunky
about anything bicycles. Franki has a square taper bottom bracket with
steel crankarms on it. None of these guys know hardly anything about bicycles`.
And FSA crank doesn't "wobble" because it is on a SPLINE. you don't even
know it is loose until it falls out of the plines. ISO splined bottom brackets also do not wobble until they almost fall off and the screws are forward threaded so that they also can work their way off. I have seen
square tapered cranks fall off not uncommonly because climbing, people
are thinking about other things.
Frank doesn't know ahit but he is pretending a lot.
Liebermann is not a bicycle rider though he might have been in the distant past.
Flunky doesn't know shit about bikes. We were TALKING about racing bikes
and I said that in the days of friction shifting that you always looked
DOWN at the lever so that you could grab the correct lever in the stress
of racing. I know that because I actually raced with friction shifters
before click shifting came in. Flunky acted like that was the largest sin he ever heard.
I'm sure that you just saw Flunky saying that he meant he didn't race friction shifters. but just normal riding without the stress and speed of racing. How the hell can you believe anything that comes from these guys?
If you don't agree with something I say do so on your own posting and
don't use these idiot's postings. They don't know anything and are willing to lie about it.
I have almost a million miles on bicycles. I raced unsccessfully until I damaged my lungs with poison gas working on an Army contract that was used in the Gulf War.
And FSA crank doesn't "wobble" because it is on a SPLINE. you don't even know it is loose until it falls out of the plines. ISO splined bottom brackets also do not wobble until they almost fall off and the screws are forward threaded so that they alsocan work their way off.
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Work out the mileage a Million miles even over a lifetime requires significant repeated annual mileages of 15k or so miles.
I have almost a million miles on bicycles. I raced unsccessfully until I
damaged my lungs with poison gas working on an Army contract that was used in the Gulf War.
On Wed Dec 18 21:06:54 2024 Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
On 12/18/2024 11:22 AM, cyclintom wrote:My old MTB the interface between the cranks and bottom bracket wore out,
On Tue Dec 17 21:09:02 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
AFAIR, Tom has never given us the details on how and why his crank fell >>>>> off, and how he could not notice the problem before it completely
disconnected. I suspect he's way too embarrassed about it to tell us. >>>>> But it ought to be quite a story!
Andrew gave the torque settings necessary and I could not meet these
settings with my bottom bracket width.
That's no more informative than "Duh, I couldn't do it." Anyone with
decent mechanical ability would have analyzed the problem and solved it
before taking the bike on the road.
And even someone with zero mechanical ability would have noticed the
crank arm so loose it was ready to fall off, long before it actually hit >>> the pavement!
Really, Tom, I'm astonished that you're pretending this was somehow normal! >>>
enough that even torquing up it still had a wobble pedalling though little >> play if one just pulled the pedals about, ie didn?t take any mechanical
knowledge to know something was up!
Roger Merriman
Roger, you're better than listening to Liebermann, Krygowski or Flunky about anything bicycles. Franki has a square taper bottom bracket with steel crankarms on it.
None of these guys know hardly anything about bicycles`.
Frank doesn't know ahit but he is pretending a lot.actually raced with friction shifters before click shifting came in. Flunky acted like that was the largest sin he ever heard.
Liebermann is not a bicycle rider though he might have been in the distant past.
Flunky doesn't know shit about bikes. We were TALKING about racing bikes and I said that in the days of friction shifting that you always looked DOWN at the lever so that you could grab the correct lever in the stress of racing. I know that because I
I'm sure that you just saw Flunky saying that he meant he didn't race friction shifters. but just normal riding without the stress and speed of racing. How the hell can you believe anything that comes from these guys?
If you don't agree with something I say do so on your own posting and don't use these idiot's postings. They don't know anything and are willing to lie about it.
On Sun Dec 15 22:32:07 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
I don't know exactly how and why your crank fell off. Honestly, I can't
conceive of someone doing such a terrible job of crank installation.
IIRC, you never did really confess what your huge mistakes were, nor how
you couldn't tell things were wrong long before it fell completely off.
Care to enlighten us? It will probably be a funny tale!
--
- Frank Krygowski
I will say again: Your bike no doubt has a square taper steel crankset Why would you talk about and FSA crankset that you know nothing about? Do you check the torque on the crank bolts before every ride? I have ridden with people whose crank bolts haveworked out (they are forward threaded on the right side allowing them to work out if they become loose.)
In fact, the locking mechanism on the FSA crank is as good as square taper or ISO.
Work out the mileage a Million miles even over a lifetime requires >significant repeated annual mileages of 15k or so miles.
On 12/18/2024 5:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Dec 18 21:06:54 2024 Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
On 12/18/2024 11:22 AM, cyclintom wrote:My old MTB the interface between the cranks and bottom bracket wore out, >>> enough that even torquing up it still had a wobble pedalling though little >>> play if one just pulled the pedals about, ie didn?t take any mechanical
On Tue Dec 17 21:09:02 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
AFAIR, Tom has never given us the details on how and why his crank fell >>>>>> off, and how he could not notice the problem before it completely
disconnected. I suspect he's way too embarrassed about it to tell us. >>>>>> But it ought to be quite a story!
Andrew gave the torque settings necessary and I could not meet these >>>>> settings with my bottom bracket width.
That's no more informative than "Duh, I couldn't do it." Anyone with
decent mechanical ability would have analyzed the problem and solved it >>>> before taking the bike on the road.
And even someone with zero mechanical ability would have noticed the
crank arm so loose it was ready to fall off, long before it actually hit >>>> the pavement!
Really, Tom, I'm astonished that you're pretending this was somehow normal!
knowledge to know something was up!
Roger Merriman
Roger, you're better than listening to Liebermann, Krygowski or Flunky
about anything bicycles. Franki has a square taper bottom bracket with
steel crankarms on it.
Well, you're inching your way toward correctness. Earlier today, IIRC,
you claimed I was riding one piece steel cranks. Keep trying, Tom! ;-)
None of these guys know hardly anything about bicycles`.
See below.
And FSA crank doesn't "wobble" because it is on a SPLINE. you don'teven know it is loose until it falls out of the plines. ISO splined
bottom brackets also do not wobble until they almost fall off and the
screws are forward threaded so that they also can work their way off. I
have seen square tapered cranks fall off not uncommonly because
climbing, people are thinking about other things.
Frank doesn't know ahit but he is pretending a lot.
Liebermann is not a bicycle rider though he might have been in the distant past.
Flunky doesn't know shit about bikes. We were TALKING about racing bikes
and I said that in the days of friction shifting that you always looked
DOWN at the lever so that you could grab the correct lever in the stress
of racing. I know that because I actually raced with friction shifters
before click shifting came in. Flunky acted like that was the largest sin he ever heard.
I'm sure that you just saw Flunky saying that he meant he didn't race
friction shifters. but just normal riding without the stress and speed
of racing. How the hell can you believe anything that comes from these guys? >>
If you don't agree with something I say do so on your own posting and
don't use these idiot's postings. They don't know anything and are
willing to lie about it.
"
"None of these guys know hardly anything about bicycles."
And yet, we don't have major parts - or even minor ones! - falling off
our bikes as we ride. Tom's the only one here with that experience!
On 12/18/2024 8:14 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
On 12/18/2024 5:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:
"None of these guys know hardly anything about bicycles."
And yet, we don't have major parts - or even minor ones! - falling off
our bikes as we ride. Tom's the only one here with that experience!
I did to be fair have a rear mech disintegration, spring in the housing
than the parallelogram either snapped or the housing became loose and then >> snapped.
was quite a cheap rear mech so possibly glued in place? Was an interesting >> ride home like that! Lucky is every so slightly downhill home, drops 50ft
or so over 10ish miles so essentially flat but every so slightly downhill!
Sure, I imagine we've all had to deal with mechanical failures. When I
used to drive sag support for our annual century ride I had some
interesting fix-it projects of others' bikes, and I've dealt with a few broken bits on my own bike over the decades.
That's quite different than installing a crank, going for a ride and
having a crank arm literally fall off!
There's a good (and embarrassing) reason Tom isn't giving us details on
his mistake.
On Wed Dec 18 12:18:02 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:sets of them that I will try the LTWoo on the DeRosa Merak for my friend. If the levers don't work reliably I will replace them with the Dura Ace 7900.
On 12/18/2024 11:35 AM, cyclintom wrote:
I bought an 11 speed LTWoo shift group a couple of years ago and it worked very well. At that time I was using full Campagnolo so I only bought them to look at. I offered them for free to anyone on the group that would like them but no one opted.
In the meantime I have changed completely back to 10 speeds so since the shift group is amazingly cheap and they shift like the Campagnolo shifters, I decided to give these a try. Dura Ace 7800 with wires everywhere are troublesome but I have so many
I assume that you don't have the financial status to test other things
As usual, you assume incorrectly. It doesn't make sense to equip a 25
year old mountain bike with 11 speed e-tap for a gravel conversion
experiment, and if I'm going to go with a lower cost solution like LTWOO
it makes just as much sense to choose Microshift over LTWOO.
so I can understand your hesitancy to try an unknown brand;
Microshift was unknown to me. The parts were sold through an on-line
retailer with an independent web presence as opposed to LTWOO which all
seem to be sold through someones PO box on amazon or ebay, and half of
the LTWOO retailers have amazon or ebay storefronts with english
spelling and grammar no better than yours - Sorry, not going to trust that. >>
We know your history of buying things on ebay - you end up getting used
shit that was promised to be new, it ends up not working, and you blame
the part rather than the fact that you got swindled. The rest of us here
are smarter than that.
We're in complete agreement that there's no use to use an electric group anywhere. But WHAT makes any sense in buying a Microshift group when you could have been given a LTWoo group? The LTWoo came from an on-line retailer.
Tell me what "used shit" I bought that failed in any way?
The FSA Crankset was new. There were light marks on the big ring showing that it had been removed from a new bike as they said.
On Wed Dec 18 21:06:54 2024 Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
On 12/18/2024 11:22 AM, cyclintom wrote:My old MTB the interface between the cranks and bottom bracket wore out,
On Tue Dec 17 21:09:02 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
AFAIR, Tom has never given us the details on how and why his crank fell >>>>> off, and how he could not notice the problem before it completely
disconnected. I suspect he's way too embarrassed about it to tell us. >>>>> But it ought to be quite a story!
Andrew gave the torque settings necessary and I could not meet these
settings with my bottom bracket width.
That's no more informative than "Duh, I couldn't do it." Anyone with
decent mechanical ability would have analyzed the problem and solved it
before taking the bike on the road.
And even someone with zero mechanical ability would have noticed the
crank arm so loose it was ready to fall off, long before it actually hit >>> the pavement!
Really, Tom, I'm astonished that you're pretending this was somehow normal! >>>
enough that even torquing up it still had a wobble pedalling though little >> play if one just pulled the pedals about, ie didn?t take any mechanical
knowledge to know something was up!
Roger Merriman
Roger, you're better than listening to Liebermann, Krygowski or Flunky about anything bicycles. Franki has a square taper bottom bracket with steel crankarms on it. None of these guys know hardly anything about bicycles`.can work their way off. I have seen square tapered cranks fall off not uncommonly because climbing, people are thinking about other things.
And FSA crank doesn't "wobble" because it is on a SPLINE. you don't even know it is loose until it falls out of the plines. ISO splined bottom brackets also do not wobble until they almost fall off and the screws are forward threaded so that they also
Frank doesn't know ahit but he is pretending a lot.actually raced with friction shifters before click shifting came in. Flunky acted like that was the largest sin he ever heard.
Liebermann is not a bicycle rider though he might have been in the distant past.
Flunky doesn't know shit about bikes. We were TALKING about racing bikes and I said that in the days of friction shifting that you always looked DOWN at the lever so that you could grab the correct lever in the stress of racing. I know that because I
I'm sure that you just saw Flunky saying that he meant he didn't race friction shifters. but just normal riding without the stress and speed of racing.
How the hell can you believe anything that comes from these guys?
If you don't agree with something I say do so on your own posting and don't use these idiot's postings. They don't know anything and are willing to lie about it.
I have almost a million miles on bicycles. I raced unsccessfully until I damaged my lungs with poison gas working on an Army contract that was used in the Gulf War.
On 19 Dec 2024 10:30:30 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 12/18/2024 8:14 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:Indeed I find his explanations unconvincing!
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:Sure, I imagine we've all had to deal with mechanical failures. When I
On 12/18/2024 5:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:
"None of these guys know hardly anything about bicycles."
And yet, we don't have major parts - or even minor ones! - falling off >>>>> our bikes as we ride. Tom's the only one here with that experience!
I did to be fair have a rear mech disintegration, spring in the housing >>>> than the parallelogram either snapped or the housing became loose and then >>>> snapped.
was quite a cheap rear mech so possibly glued in place? Was an interesting >>>> ride home like that! Lucky is every so slightly downhill home, drops 50ft >>>> or so over 10ish miles so essentially flat but every so slightly downhill! >>>
used to drive sag support for our annual century ride I had some
interesting fix-it projects of others' bikes, and I've dealt with a few
broken bits on my own bike over the decades.
That's quite different than installing a crank, going for a ride and
having a crank arm literally fall off!
There's a good (and embarrassing) reason Tom isn't giving us details on
his mistake.
Roger Merriman
Didn't Tommy say something about not being able to tighten the BB
because a washer didn't fit or something similar?
I got enough sleep last night but zi really felt tired this morning so I decided to take a flat easy ride. I decided to ride the Basso Lotto because the Colnago is in dreadful need of a cleaning and rewaxing the chain.. The Basso has Bontrager X litewheels on it. It also had Bontrager quick releases which are difficult to get properly tight.
So three blocks from the house4 at a stop light, the rear wheel pulled forward, locked against the seat tubee and dumped me into the middle of the street. The traffic was polite and allowed me to get up and get the bike out if the way. I retightenedthe quick release and it happened again. So I tightened the quick release very tight and the wheel didn't move anymore. Another 5 blocks down the road my shoe came off. I stopped and reset that on much tighter.
I got all of the way into Alameda and misjudged a car turning right in front of me and nearly got hit. I turned lerft and proceeded down to a stop sign where I didn't even see cross traffic and was almost hit. I got on a bike path and misjudged a 100degree turn and ran off of the path. Now none of this is something I would normally do. When I pulled into the coffee shop I could hardly stand. I was exhausted. I ordered coffee and something with a lot of sugar in it. I intended to take a shorter route
I have recently added half a Leveteracitam pill on doctor's advice and I think that is giving me a toxic blood level. I will back off of that and see what effect that has. Hopefully that will return me to normal.
Also the fit of the Basso which was fair needs to tuning. Shorter stem, narrower handlebars and higher levers. Let's hpe that this all helps.
On Sun Jan 5 17:24:27 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 1/5/2025 3:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:
I got enough sleep last night but zi really felt tired this morning
so I decided to take a flat easy ride. I decided to ride the Basso
Lotto because the Colnago is in dreadful need of a cleaning and
rewaxing the chain.. The Basso has Bontrager X lite wheels on it. It
also had Bontrager quick releases which are difficult to get properly
tight.
So three blocks from the house4 at a stop light, the rear wheel
pulled forward, locked against the seat tubee and dumped me into the
middle of the street. The traffic was polite and allowed me to get up
and get the bike out if the way. I retightened the quick release and
it happened again. So I tightened the quick release very tight and
the wheel didn't move anymore. Another 5 blocks down the road my shoe
came off. I stopped and reset that on much tighter.
I got all of the way into Alameda and misjudged a car turning right
in front of me and nearly got hit. I turned lerft and proceeded down
to a stop sign where I didn't even see cross traffic and was almost
hit. I got on a bike path and misjudged a 100 degree turn and ran off
of the path. Now none of this is something I would normally do. When
I pulled into the coffee shop I could hardly stand. I was exhausted.
I ordered coffee and something with a lot of sugar in it. I intended
to take a shorter route on the way back. I felt pretty bsd on the
return trip. But without incident other than misjudging when a light
would change. that was harmless since there was no traffic on that
street and the light did change halfway into the intersection.
I have recently added half a Leveteracitam pill on doctor's advice
and I think that is giving me a toxic blood level. I will back off of
that and see what effect that has. Hopefully that will return me to
normal.
Also the fit of the Basso which was fair needs to tuning. Shorter
stem, narrower handlebars and higher levers. Let's hpe that this all
helps.
Basso Loto has classic horizontal road ends.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/basmia2.jpg
Use steel (internal cam) skewers; aluminum (open cam) skewers will
inherently slip.
You are absolutely right. Campagnolo quick releases never had the
problems that these aluminum quick releases do. I returned tol my two
pills of leveteracitam last night rather than 2 1/2 and woke up this
morning almost normal again.I will contact my neurologist today and let
him kno3w what happened to me yesterday.
On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 16:21:14 +0000, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Jan 5 17:24:27 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 1/5/2025 3:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:
I got enough sleep last night but zi really felt tired this morning
so I decided to take a flat easy ride. I decided to ride the Basso
Lotto because the Colnago is in dreadful need of a cleaning and
rewaxing the chain.. The Basso has Bontrager X lite wheels on it. It
also had Bontrager quick releases which are difficult to get properly
tight.
So three blocks from the house4 at a stop light, the rear wheel
pulled forward, locked against the seat tubee and dumped me into the
middle of the street. The traffic was polite and allowed me to get up
and get the bike out if the way. I retightened the quick release and
it happened again. So I tightened the quick release very tight and
the wheel didn't move anymore. Another 5 blocks down the road my shoe
came off. I stopped and reset that on much tighter.
I got all of the way into Alameda and misjudged a car turning right
in front of me and nearly got hit. I turned lerft and proceeded down
to a stop sign where I didn't even see cross traffic and was almost
hit. I got on a bike path and misjudged a 100 degree turn and ran off
of the path. Now none of this is something I would normally do. When
I pulled into the coffee shop I could hardly stand. I was exhausted.
I ordered coffee and something with a lot of sugar in it. I intended
to take a shorter route on the way back. I felt pretty bsd on the
return trip. But without incident other than misjudging when a light
would change. that was harmless since there was no traffic on that
street and the light did change halfway into the intersection.
I have recently added half a Leveteracitam pill on doctor's advice
and I think that is giving me a toxic blood level. I will back off of
that and see what effect that has. Hopefully that will return me to
normal.
Also the fit of the Basso which was fair needs to tuning. Shorter
stem, narrower handlebars and higher levers. Let's hpe that this all
helps.
Basso Loto has classic horizontal road ends.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/basmia2.jpg
Use steel (internal cam) skewers; aluminum (open cam) skewers will
inherently slip.
You are absolutely right. Campagnolo quick releases never had the
problems that these aluminum quick releases do. I returned tol my two
pills of leveteracitam last night rather than 2 1/2 and woke up this
morning almost normal again.I will contact my neurologist today and let
him kno3w what happened to me yesterday.
By the way, I was talking to Robinson about that problem on Wednesday and
he had the same fix I did - Use Campy or Shimano old style quick releases that would actually cam-lock down on the Campy horizontal dropouts. This business about saving every gram possible by making aluminum quick
releases is bunkers.
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