On 1/17/2025 2:17 PM, AMuzi wrote:
This line?
https://sfstandard.com/2024/08/02/bart-silicon-valley-extension-funding/
Seems to be 'in progress' as of last summer.
For the whole system, fares cover a whopping 22% of operating expenses (that's negative ROI on capital), more than most passenger rail systems.
Hmm. I wonder what percentage of, say, I-880 or I-680 operating expenses
are paid for by fares. Anybody got a figure?
Am 18.01.2025 um 10:19 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 21:27:16 -0500, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 1/17/2025 5:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/17/2025 4:13 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/17/2025 2:17 PM, AMuzi wrote:
This line?
https://sfstandard.com/2024/08/02/bart-silicon-valley- extension-
funding/
Seems to be 'in progress' as of last summer.
For the whole system, fares cover a whopping 22% of operating
expenses (that's negative ROI on capital), more than most passenger >>>>> rail systems.
Hmm. I wonder what percentage of, say, I-880 or I-680 operating
expenses are paid for by fares. Anybody got a figure?
Impossible to know. Too convoluted, just like most government
accounting (which practices would land me in prison post haste).
Regarding tolls, I remember when Illinois paid off its original
Interstate bonds, at which point the toll booths were supposed to go
away. Never happened because it's a slush fund for politicians and the >>> civil service.
Same thing happened with the Ohio Turnpike just a few years ago. People
blamed the Republican-controlled legislature.
But if you meant the road tax, that's different everywhere you go and
depending on where you are 2% to 20% of road tax doesn't go to roads:
https://reason.org/policy-brief/how-much-gas-tax-money-states-divert-
away-from-roads/
And, in the other view, road taxes don't cover road maintenance expense, >>> as far as we know:
https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/gasoline-taxes-and-user-fees- >>> pay-only-half-state-local-road-spending/
So every argument can be both right and wrong, depending.
Short answer: it's a mess and a muddle. Which suits the insider
beneficiaries just fine.
My overall point is, we've obviously decided to subsidize road
transportation. It's not immediately obvious why we should not subsidize >> rail transportation. Asking fares to cover all expenses skips over that
point.
We do subsidize passenger rail, and it seems pretty obvious that
people in the USA have not choosen to use long distance passenger rail
even when it is subsidized. There does seem to be interest in
intercity rail for trips that take less than half a day, but two or
three days vs 4 or 5 hours on plane for a lessor charge is easy to
choose even if the train ride has more legroom.
Sure. Given that air traffic exists and tickets are "affordable", 4
hours of journey time are the maximum where rail traffic is capable of gaining a significant market share of journeys between "cities with an airport"; 3 hours of journey time between 2 city centers pretty much
kills the airline market (except feeder services) between those cities:
The high-speed rail line Berlin - Nuremberg - Munich completely killed
the air market Nuremberg - Berlin and halved the airline market Munich - Berlin when it opened in 2017.
Germany is just about small enough to have reached 4 hours journey time between most major cities (except Hamburg - Munich and Ruhr - Munich) by investing in 180 mph lines.
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:34:29 +0100, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
Am 17.01.2025 um 23:53 schrieb cyclintom:
On Fri Jan 17 18:35:54 2025 Shadow wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 21:13:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun Jan 12 10:23:48 2025 Shadow wrote:Nice, saves you looking it up. Insider trading is using
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 22:07:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Jan 9 16:04:05 2025 Shadow wrote:
LOL
The fifth horseman of the apocalypse is #FAKE_NEWS.
Possibly even more powerful than the other 4, but he only >>>>>>> targets the weak-of-mind and the unhealthily greedy (Like Musk and the
Meta guy), so we're safe.
Why don't you tell us what you actually know about na man who started >>>>>> with nothing and is now one of the most powerfull men on this planet without
ever losing nhis morals? Does that make you jealous since your morals, >>>>>> long ago were cast aside?
Who on Earth are you talking about?
Jeeesus? He's only "powerful" to the weak of mind.
Not Musk** (inherited his family's fortune which was made with >>>>> slave labour in SA, then multiplied it with insider trading and other >>>>> crimes), or Zukerberg "they trust me, the stupid fsks". Morals? LOL. >>>>> Neither would know what "morals" meant even if it bit them in the ass. >>>>> So .... who?
[]'s
** PS Zukerberg and Musk have announced that they welcome the fifth >>>>> horseman, as long as they help the anti-christs (ask someone with
mental issues that believes in the bibel. The prophecies are all
there....)
So, you don't even know what "insider trading" is. I should have known. >>>
knowledge you have(due to contacts, bribes etc) that the general
public does not have access to, to manipulate the stock market. Buy
cheap and sell high.
To produce "facts" notably on social media but also in
newspapers etc that make shares crash/soar and make money with that is >>> even more perverse. It's a felony.
All judges have their price though. As Musk is fond of
reminding the people he conned.
My Google is broken
Too bad you don't know any real connection between Elon Musk and insider trading.
Having "no need in insider trading" is not a sufficient reason to
refrain from insider trading.
But "insider" trading exists all over the world. Back when I was
working in the oil field you can't imagine the number of drilling crew members who absolutely had to contact their wife if we brought in a
good fat exploration well.
We got a very nice 3 year contract because one of our employees heard
an oil company manager mention, in a bar, "I wish I knew a good
company to do that project". We made sure that as soon as his office
opened the next morning somebody was standing at the door to tell him.
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:52:51 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:34:29 +0100, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
Am 17.01.2025 um 23:53 schrieb cyclintom:
On Fri Jan 17 18:35:54 2025 Shadow wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 21:13:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun Jan 12 10:23:48 2025 Shadow wrote:Nice, saves you looking it up. Insider trading is using
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 22:07:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Thu Jan 9 16:04:05 2025 Shadow wrote:
LOL
The fifth horseman of the apocalypse is #FAKE_NEWS.
Possibly even more powerful than the other 4, but he only >>>>>>>> targets the weak-of-mind and the unhealthily greedy (Like Musk and the
Meta guy), so we're safe.
Why don't you tell us what you actually know about na man who started >>>>>>> with nothing and is now one of the most powerfull men on this planet without
ever losing nhis morals? Does that make you jealous since your morals,
long ago were cast aside?
Who on Earth are you talking about?
Jeeesus? He's only "powerful" to the weak of mind.
Not Musk** (inherited his family's fortune which was made with >>>>>> slave labour in SA, then multiplied it with insider trading and other >>>>>> crimes), or Zukerberg "they trust me, the stupid fsks". Morals? LOL. >>>>>> Neither would know what "morals" meant even if it bit them in the ass. >>>>>> So .... who?
[]'s
** PS Zukerberg and Musk have announced that they welcome the fifth >>>>>> horseman, as long as they help the anti-christs (ask someone with >>>>>> mental issues that believes in the bibel. The prophecies are all >>>>>> there....)
So, you don't even know what "insider trading" is. I should have known. >>>>
knowledge you have(due to contacts, bribes etc) that the general
public does not have access to, to manipulate the stock market. Buy >>>> cheap and sell high.
To produce "facts" notably on social media but also in
newspapers etc that make shares crash/soar and make money with that is >>>> even more perverse. It's a felony.
All judges have their price though. As Musk is fond of
reminding the people he conned.
My Google is broken
Too bad you don't know any real connection between Elon Musk and insider trading.
Having "no need in insider trading" is not a sufficient reason to
refrain from insider trading.
But "insider" trading exists all over the world. Back when I was
working in the oil field you can't imagine the number of drilling crew >members who absolutely had to contact their wife if we brought in a
good fat exploration well.
We got a very nice 3 year contract because one of our employees heard
an oil company manager mention, in a bar, "I wish I knew a good
company to do that project". We made sure that as soon as his office
opened the next morning somebody was standing at the door to tell him.
Everyone who has a good job in a company with public stock has insider information. I bought a bunch of stock in the company I worked for and
ths, had inside information. I still have the stock and the
connections, my son works there now at a higher level than I was at. I
talked to him just yesterday and we talked about problems with the
cold weather. He's a bit concerned, but neither one of us is looking
to sell.
If I became aware of something that was going to change the value of
the stock and acted on it, it would be insider trading.
On 1/20/2025 7:45 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/20/2025 6:41 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:00:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Jan 20 18:52:51 2025 John B. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:34:29 +0100, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
Am 17.01.2025 um 23:53 schrieb cyclintom:
On Fri Jan 17 18:35:54 2025 Shadow wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 21:13:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun Jan 12 10:23:48 2025 Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 22:07:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Thu Jan 9 16:04:05 2025 Shadow wrote:
LOL
The fifth horseman of the apocalypse is #FAKE_NEWS. >>>>>>>>>>> Possibly even more powerful than the other 4, but he only
targets the weak-of-mind and the unhealthily greedy (Like >>>>>>>>>>> Musk and the
Meta guy), so we're safe.
Why don't you tell us what you actually know about na man who >>>>>>>>>> started
with nothing and is now one of the most powerfull men on this >>>>>>>>>> planet without
ever losing nhis morals? Does that make you jealous since your >>>>>>>>>> morals,
long ago were cast aside?
Who on Earth are you talking about?
Jeeesus? He's only "powerful" to the weak of mind. >>>>>>>>>
Not Musk** (inherited his family's fortune which was made with
slave labour in SA, then multiplied it with insider trading and >>>>>>>>> other
crimes), or Zukerberg "they trust me, the stupid fsks". Morals? >>>>>>>>> LOL.
Neither would know what "morals" meant even if it bit them in >>>>>>>>> the ass.
So .... who?
[]'s
** PS Zukerberg and Musk have announced that they welcome the >>>>>>>>> fifth
horseman, as long as they help the anti-christs (ask someone with >>>>>>>>> mental issues that believes in the bibel. The prophecies are all >>>>>>>>> there....)
So, you don't even know what "insider trading" is. I should have >>>>>>>> known.
Nice, saves you looking it up. Insider trading is using
knowledge you have(due to contacts, bribes etc) that the general >>>>>>> public does not have access to, to manipulate the stock market. Buy
cheap and sell high.
To produce "facts" notably on social media but also in >>>>>>> newspapers etc that make shares crash/soar and make money with >>>>>>> that is
even more perverse. It's a felony.
All judges have their price though. As Musk is fond of >>>>>>> reminding the people he conned.
My Google is broken
Too bad you don't know any real connection between Elon Musk and >>>>>> insider trading.
Having "no need in insider trading" is not a sufficient reason to
refrain from insider trading.
But "insider" trading exists all over the world. Back when I was
working in the oil field you can't imagine the number of drilling crew >>>> members who absolutely had to contact their wife if we brought in a
good fat exploration well.
We got a very nice 3 year contract because one of our employees heard >>>> an oil company manager mention, in a bar, "I wish I knew a good
company to do that project". We made sure that as soon as his office >>>> opened the next morning somebody was standing at the door to tell him. >>>
John, that isn't insider trading. Nancy Pelosi was pushing LAWS
through Congress that allowed wild growth in specific companies that
she bought into early.
Really? Tell us more... with perhaps a tiny bit of proof that you know
what you are talking about?
The most egregious blatant case was the Pelosi Visa options trade. It
was well reported:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/nancy-pelosi-s- husband-dumped-thousands-of-visa-shares-worth-over-500k-just-2-months- before-the-doj-s-antitrust-lawsuit-and-it-s-reigniting-insider-trading- concerns/ar-AA1rDBsq
Horseshit.
Selling stock two months before the DOJ opens an investigation hardly
rises to the level of "egregious and blatent".
The most egregious and blatant cases were Burr and Loeffler who made
millions in trading after closed-sessions on the pandemic.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sen-kelly-loeffler-dumped-millions-in-stock-after-coronavirus-briefing/
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/488576-tucker-carlson-calls-on-burr-to-resign-amid-reports-of-stock-selloff-due-to/
Feinstein was caught up in the scandal too.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/14/dianne-feinstein-husband-stock-trades-258693
Take off your partisan blinders, andrew.
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