I think that Uber is a car ride service. After I just paid off my credit card, I purchased another set of shoes. The one's I have (tennis shoes) does not have the laces passing through a slot in the tongue. This maked them very difficult to put on. So I
bought another set with the proper lacing.

In any case, directyly after I bought those shoes I did get a notice that I had bought them. But then I just noticed that I have 26 charges from Uber for a total of slightly more than $500. So, I canceled those charges and am getting a replacement card.
This screws everything up since bills that I pay via check weren't being delivered so I changed to "paperless". Changing the card means that those accounts cannot access my checking account.

So, not only will I have to go back to sending a check in for those bills but taking the envelopes to the local post office to make sure they will be delivered. Why do you suppose someone would steal bills with a check inside? These things are triple
checked so that there isn't any way you can pass a bad check.

So rather than buying things on-line with my credit card, I am going to have to use checks. I used to use Paypal until they started buying things under my name such as cash cards. When I refused to pau for those they killed my account with them. Now I
was willing to let pass the FIRST occassion that happened but AFTER I warned them that I did not make that purchase, they accepted three more occassions until I changed my credit card. I had the same problem with Amazon.

I had an app on my old desktop that allowed a company to go in and clean out the clutter which was necessary on the old 16 bit desktop so that it would run at a reasonable speed. When I moved the old disk into the new 32 bit desktop, it of course went
along with it and I suspect that someone at that clutter cleaner company was using that app to order things via Paypal and Amazon when that dawned on me, I uninstalled it and never had that particular problem again.

But I am not going to settle with Paypal and Amazon AFTER I warned them that I was not ordering these cash services and they continued to sell them to supposedly me.

Paypak was handy since you had a guaranteed lock on your crediut card. And perhaps someone else is not providing a like service since they were so successful.

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On 1/22/2025 2:29 PM, cyclintom wrote:

I think that Uber is a car ride service. After I just paid off my credit card, I purchased another set of shoes. The one's I have (tennis shoes) does not have the laces passing through a slot in the tongue. This maked them very difficult to put on. So

I bought another set with the proper lacing.

In any case, directyly after I bought those shoes I did get a notice that I had bought them. But then I just noticed that I have 26 charges from Uber for a total of slightly more than $500. So, I canceled those charges and am getting a replacement card.

This screws everything up since bills that I pay via check weren't being delivered so I changed to "paperless". Changing the card means that those accounts cannot access my checking account.

So, not only will I have to go back to sending a check in for those bills but taking the envelopes to the local post office to make sure they will be delivered. Why do you suppose someone would steal bills with a check inside? These things are triple

checked so that there isn't any way you can pass a bad check.

So rather than buying things on-line with my credit card, I am going to have to use checks. I used to use Paypal until they started buying things under my name such as cash cards. When I refused to pau for those they killed my account with them. Now I

was willing to let pass the FIRST occassion that happened but AFTER I warned them that I did not make that purchase, they accepted three more occassions until I changed my credit card. I had the same problem with Amazon.

I had an app on my old desktop that allowed a company to go in and clean out the clutter which was necessary on the old 16 bit desktop so that it would run at a reasonable speed. When I moved the old disk into the new 32 bit desktop, it of course went

along with it and I suspect that someone at that clutter cleaner company was using that app to order things via Paypal and Amazon when that dawned on me, I uninstalled it and never had that particular problem again.

But I am not going to settle with Paypal and Amazon AFTER I warned them that I was not ordering these cash services and they continued to sell them to supposedly me.

Paypak was handy since you had a guaranteed lock on your crediut card. And perhaps someone else is not providing a like service since they were so successful.

People steal checks from the mails because they can be
altered to a different payee and/or amount.

https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-crime-thieves-caught-camera-following-stealing-usps/15048297/

https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-police-issue-alert-after-thieves-steal-us/15019253/

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/mail-thefts-personal-information-taxes-january/

Electronic fraud (PayPal, Venmo, online charge/debit cards
etc) differs in technique but not by nature.

It's possible that your computer techs retrieved your
financial data, passwords etc but unlikely. More probably a
card skimmer, stolen paper statement, other interception of
your data.

You generally have to discover a fraud and file a criminal
fraud report within 30 days to have it ameliorated by your
bank or vendor. Many rules many exceptions:

https://www.bankrate.com/credit-cards/advice/know-your-rights-credit-card-fraud/

https://www.occ.gov/topics/consumers-and-communities/consumer-protection/fraud-resources/check-fraud.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/know-rights-facing-credit-card-190100366.html

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On 1/22/2025 3:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 1/22/2025 2:29 PM, cyclintom wrote:

I think that Uber is a car ride service. After I just paid off my
credit card, I purchased another set of shoes. The one's I have
(tennis shoes) does not have the laces passing through a slot in the
tongue. This maked them very difficult to put on. So I bought another
set with the proper lacing.

In any case, directyly after I bought those shoes I did get a notice
that I had bought them. But then I just noticed that I have 26 charges
from Uber for a total of slightly more than $500. So, I canceled those
charges and am getting a replacement card. This screws everything up
since bills that I pay via check weren't being delivered so I changed
to "paperless". Changing the card means that those accounts cannot
access my checking account.

So, not only will I have to go back to sending a check in for those
bills but taking the envelopes to the local post office to make sure
they will be delivered. Why do you suppose someone would steal bills
with a check inside? These things are triple checked so that there
isn't any way you can pass a bad check.

So rather than buying things on-line with my credit card, I am going
to have to use checks. I used to use Paypal until they started buying
things under my name such as cash cards. When I refused to pau for
those they killed my account with them. Now I was willing to let pass
the FIRST occassion that happened but AFTER I warned them that I did
not make that purchase, they accepted three more occassions until I
changed my credit card. I had the same problem with Amazon.

I had an app on my old desktop that allowed a company to go in and
clean out the clutter which was necessary on the old 16 bit desktop so
that it would run at a reasonable speed. When I moved the old disk
into the new 32 bit desktop, it of course went along with it and I
suspect that someone at that clutter cleaner company was using that
app to order things via Paypal and Amazon when that dawned on me, I
uninstalled it and never had that particular problem again.

But I am not going to settle with Paypal and Amazon AFTER I warned
them that I was not ordering these cash services and they continued to
sell them to supposedly me.

Paypak was handy since you had a guaranteed lock on your crediut card.
And perhaps someone else is not providing a like service since they
were so successful.

People steal checks from the mails because they can be altered to a
different payee and/or amount.

https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-crime-thieves-caught-camera- following-stealing-usps/15048297/

https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-police-issue-alert-after-thieves- steal-us/15019253/

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/mail-thefts-personal-information- taxes-january/

Electronic fraud (PayPal, Venmo, online charge/debit cards etc) differs
in technique but not by nature.

It's possible that your computer techs retrieved your financial data, passwords etc but unlikely.  More probably a card skimmer, stolen paper statement, other interception of your data.

You generally have to discover a fraud and file a criminal fraud report within 30 days to have it ameliorated by your bank or vendor. Many rules
many exceptions:

https://www.bankrate.com/credit-cards/advice/know-your-rights-credit- card-fraud/

https://www.occ.gov/topics/consumers-and-communities/consumer- protection/fraud-resources/check-fraud.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/know-rights-facing-credit-
card-190100366.html

Tom be careful that seems like a lot of things going wrong at once. I
used both a credit card and paypal. Mostly credit card because they are
safe when you buy things and bad product or something does not add up. I
had one issue only once that I bought something and then pretty much
knew it was a fraud. I contact VISA and they had it resolved very fast.
Paypal is good to no problems but i get money back from the credit card
and pay the balance off every month.

You can have a credit card and then access the statement and
transactions anything online. I do this daily. I went to Walmart
yesterday for groceries and check this morning. The charge is pending
all good. I recently bought a Garmin 945 Forerunner on line. On the
credit card because if it does not come I have protection,

BTW this Garmin is fantastic. I have a 935 too but this is quite an
upgrade and still not the current version. It was a good deal compared
to paying $459 for the 965 current version.\




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On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:29:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I had an app on my old desktop that allowed a company to go in and
<whatever - paint my computer purple?>

That's called a Trojan. I thought you were computer savvy.
Next you'll be complaining they stole from you...
That's what malware does.
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