• Re: TPU inner tubes and sand or grit

    From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to James on Fri Jan 24 11:10:43 2025
    James <james.e.steward@gmail.com> wrote:
    I started using TPU inner tubes on my gravel bike a few months ago, and mostly without issue.

    One pinch flat so far, that I repaired with a couple of drops of
    Aquaseal glue.

    A few days ago I swapped tyres on my gravel bike, from a new pair with
    tread to an old pair that were a bit bald, but fine on our hard packed
    gravel roads and bitumen.

    Alas, the rear got a slow leak after a 40km ride.

    I could not see any obvious damage to the tube, and it wasn't until I submerged the tube underwater that I found 3 imperceptible pinhole leaks where the tube would have been pressed against the rim tape.

    The rim tape is factory installed on my Fulcrum Rapid Red 5 DB wheels,
    and is in perfect condition.

    I was able to repair the tube, again with a few drops of Aquaseal.

    I suspect that when I installed the old tyre that somehow a few grains
    of sand or grit became stuck to the rim tape or were on the tube, and
    with 40 psi + pressing the tube against the grit, it caused a hole to form.

    I just read a forum post from a person who suspects grit causing similar problems on his fat bike with TPU tubes.

    I think regular butyl tubes would be far more capable of coping with a
    grain of sand, given their additional thickness.

    After patching, I cleaned the rim, rim tape and inside of the tyre case
    with a slightly oily rag, to hopefully pick up any sand or grit prior to reassembly.

    I've also found that if the rim tape has a whiff of lubrication from a
    wipe with a slightly oily rag - and I mean a whiff - then it makes
    seating a TR tyre on a hook bead TR rim with an inner tube, much easier.
    My 45mm tyres will seat with 40 psi. It otherwise requires inflation
    to near maximum pressure (60-70psi I think) to get the tyre to be seated properly on the rim. That can be an issue if you have a puncture out on
    a ride and using a high volume low pressure pump for wide tyres.

    That makes sense yes, the grit and the lube, in fairness I have double punctured once when I didn’t clean the grit out and did puncture if slowly
    ie rideable just needed pumping every mile or so!

    That was with a Butyl tube though equally I’ve changed tyres and found lots of dirt in the tyre which hadn’t cased issues on the MTB/Gravel bikes.

    Roger Merriman

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