I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size disks rhey will take,

I seem top have misplacerd my computer glasses so I probably have some misspellings that will offend Krygowski who has never made spelling errors in his life. He doesn't realize just how impressive that is.
Aren't you impressed?

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On 2/5/2025 11:10 AM, cyclintom wrote:

I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size disks rhey will take,

I seem top have misplacerd my computer glasses so I probably have some misspellings that will offend Krygowski who has never made spelling errors in his life. He doesn't realize just how impressive that is.
Aren't you impressed?

:-) I'm sure I've made spelling errors here in the past. If you look
for them, Tom, you can probably find some and post links to humiliate
me. Have at it! ;-)

--
- Frank Krygowski

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On 2/7/2025 3:52 AM, db wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2025 16:10:34 GMT, cyclintom wrote:

I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into
the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size
disks rhey will take,

[...]

These are tiny wheels, or am I misreading your post?
Or is it a scooter?

Those are hub/frame widths, not diameters

--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 2/7/2025 3:52 AM, db wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2025 16:10:34 GMT, cyclintom wrote:

I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into
the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size
disks rhey will take,

[...]

These are tiny wheels, or am I misreading your post?
Or is it a scooter?

Those are hub/frame widths, not diameters

My fleet are remarkably similar or consistent with 100/135 on 3 of the 4
bikes with 100/130 on the old school roadie at least I assume it does!

As most of my bikes are low to mid range some have been upgraded such as
the MTB and particularly the Gravel bike that has only the front mech left!

The MTB remarkably has its original wheels, clearly had bearings and so on replaced number of times over the years, it’s a 2014 model one of the 1st generation of 29ers

Roger Merriman

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On Wed Feb 5 22:29:07 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 2/5/2025 11:10 AM, cyclintom wrote:

I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size disks rhey will take,

I seem top have misplacerd my computer glasses so I probably have some misspellings that will offend Krygowski who has never made spelling errors in his life. He doesn't realize just how impressive that is.
Aren't you impressed?

:-) I'm sure I've made spelling errors here in the past. If you look
for them, Tom, you can probably find some and post links to humiliate
me. Have at it! ;-)

Frank, you have made spelling errors complaining about my spelling errors. And haven't even noticed that.

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On Fri Feb 7 09:52:00 2025 db wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2025 16:10:34 GMT, cyclintom wrote:

I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into
the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size
disks rhey will take,

[...]

These are tiny wheels, or am I misreading your post?
Or is it a scooter?

I am using 700c wgeels and talking about the fork and rear triangle width. When I was initially trying to mmeasure it it must have been after I had the stroke and was making mistakes about where I was measureing. I don't like disk brakes but the deal I
got on an almost new DeRosa Idol was too good to be true. And it became a much better deal when I discover a set of 10 speed Shimano GRX hydraulic brake levers laying around. Total riding costs will be $750. That's $1000 less than a like bike with a real
low end group.

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On Fri Feb 7 07:32:57 2025 AMuzi wrote:

On 2/7/2025 3:52 AM, db wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2025 16:10:34 GMT, cyclintom wrote:

I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into
the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size
disks rhey will take,

[...]

These are tiny wheels, or am I misreading your post?
Or is it a scooter?

Those are hub/frame widths, not diameters

I suppose if you don't know the latest technology trends it is difficult to understand the discussion. The disk actuators are coming in today and I have to see what diameter rotors go into them. One of the actuators says "For 140 Rotors" but the other is
ummarked and may use 160 mm on the back. From now on I will order parts off of Ebay dependent on distance. It takes 10 days to get a part from Colorado or St. Louis. And 2 days from LA.

And I'm ready to sign a petition to sue Ebay for charging sales tax on used parts.

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cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Fri Feb 7 07:32:57 2025 AMuzi wrote:

On 2/7/2025 3:52 AM, db wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2025 16:10:34 GMT, cyclintom wrote:

I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into >>>> the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size
disks rhey will take,

[...]

These are tiny wheels, or am I misreading your post?
Or is it a scooter?

Those are hub/frame widths, not diameters

I suppose if you don't know the latest technology trends it is difficult
to understand the discussion. The disk actuators are coming in today and
I have to see what diameter rotors go into them. One of the actuators
says "For 140 Rotors" but the other is ummarked and may use 160 mm on the back. From now on I will order parts off of Ebay dependent on distance.
It takes 10 days to get a part from Colorado or St. Louis. And 2 days from LA.

And I'm ready to sign a petition to sue Ebay for charging sales tax on used parts.

I think I may have once or twice seen a 140mm rotor which seems to have
largely died off? Plus the mixed rotor sizes which perhaps makes more sense
on a road bike though different rotors will give a difference feel to the levers so considering the tiny bit of weight difference between a 140mm and 160mm rotor doesn’t seem worth it.

Tax would be your government rather than EBay, in uk in general it’s not taxed as such though if your business is selling 2nd goods and services the yes.

Roger Merriman

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On Sat Feb 8 20:19:31 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:

cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Fri Feb 7 07:32:57 2025 AMuzi wrote:

On 2/7/2025 3:52 AM, db wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2025 16:10:34 GMT, cyclintom wrote:

I got a set of 100 mm front 142 mm rear wheels and they fit right into >>>> the DeRosa Idol. I'm waiting for the disk actuators to see what size >>>> disks rhey will take,

[...]

These are tiny wheels, or am I misreading your post?
Or is it a scooter?

Those are hub/frame widths, not diameters

I suppose if you don't know the latest technology trends it is difficult
to understand the discussion. The disk actuators are coming in today and
I have to see what diameter rotors go into them. One of the actuators
says "For 140 Rotors" but the other is ummarked and may use 160 mm on the back. From now on I will order parts off of Ebay dependent on distance.
It takes 10 days to get a part from Colorado or St. Louis. And 2 days from LA.

And I'm ready to sign a petition to sue Ebay for charging sales tax on used parts.

I think I may have once or twice seen a 140mm rotor which seems to have largely died off? Plus the mixed rotor sizes which perhaps makes more sense on a road bike though different rotors will give a difference feel to the levers so considering the tiny bit of weight difference between a 140mm and 160mm rotor doesn?t seem worth it.

Tax would be your government rather than EBay, in uk in general it?s not taxed as such though if your business is selling 2nd goods and services the yes.

While Ebay is charging taxes on used components, The ultra fair California government is treating Ebay as a seller of parts rather than as nothing more than an advertiser of used components between private individuals. This is really illegal but it would
require a small fortune to take it through the court system to adjudicate it illegal. It's no skin off of Ebay's nose to take extra money from you.

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On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:26:12 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

While Ebay is charging taxes on used components, The ultra fair California government is treating Ebay as a seller of parts rather than as nothing more than an advertiser of used components between private individuals. This is really illegal but it

would require a small fortune to take it through the court system to adjudicate it illegal. It's no skin off of Ebay's nose to take extra money from you.

Wrong (as usual).

"Sales and Use Taxes: Tax Expenditures
California Revenue and Taxation Code Part 1, Division 3: <https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/formspubs/pub61.pdf>

"Sales Tax California How does it get paid????" <https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Sales-Tax-California-How-does-it-get-paid/td-p/32761461>
Read the "best answer" for details.

More:
"Sales & Use Tax in California" <https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/taxes-and-fees/sutprograms.htm>

"Tax information - Understand tax obligations that may affect you in
the US and EU"
<https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/resources/tax-information>

54 pages. I can't find anything where a seller of used equipment is
exempt from collecting sales tax. In the distant past, eBay did NOT
collect state sales taxes, but that changed in July 2021:



--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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On 2/10/2025 7:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:26:12 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

While Ebay is charging taxes on used components, The ultra fair California government is treating Ebay as a seller of parts rather than as nothing more than an advertiser of used components between private individuals. This is really illegal but it

would require a small fortune to take it through the court system to adjudicate it illegal. It's no skin off of Ebay's nose to take extra money from you.

Wrong (as usual).

"Sales and Use Taxes: Tax Expenditures
California Revenue and Taxation Code Part 1, Division 3: <https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/formspubs/pub61.pdf>

"Sales Tax California How does it get paid????" <https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Sales-Tax-California-How-does-it-get-paid/td-p/32761461>
Read the "best answer" for details.

More:
"Sales & Use Tax in California" <https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/taxes-and-fees/sutprograms.htm>

"Tax information - Understand tax obligations that may affect you in
the US and EU"
<https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/resources/tax-information>

54 pages. I can't find anything where a seller of used equipment is
exempt from collecting sales tax. In the distant past, eBay did NOT
collect state sales taxes, but that changed in July 2021:

Some of us feel the Court erred in overruling the previous
Quill decision. I don't vote in California but now I have to
collect and remit California tax. And 30-odd other States.

--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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On Mon Feb 10 17:21:49 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:26:12 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

While Ebay is charging taxes on used components, The ultra fair California government is treating Ebay as a seller of parts rather than as nothing more than an advertiser of used components between private individuals. This is really illegal but it

would require a small fortune to take it through the court system to adjudicate it illegal. It's no skin off of Ebay's nose to take extra money from you.

Wrong (as usual).

"Sales and Use Taxes: Tax Expenditures
California Revenue and Taxation Code Part 1, Division 3: <https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/formspubs/pub61.pdf>

"Sales Tax California How does it get paid????" <https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Sales-Tax-California-How-does-it-get-paid/td-p/32761461>
Read the "best answer" for details.

More:
"Sales & Use Tax in California" <https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/taxes-and-fees/sutprograms.htm>

"Tax information - Understand tax obligations that may affect you in
the US and EU"
<https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/resources/tax-information>

54 pages. I can't find anything where a seller of used equipment is
exempt from collecting sales tax. In the distant past, eBay did NOT
collect state sales taxes, but that changed in July 2021:

Usual, Bit Defender blocks your refferences.

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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:49:15 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Mon Feb 10 17:21:49 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:26:12 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

While Ebay is charging taxes on used components, The ultra fair California government is treating Ebay as a seller of parts rather than as nothing more than an advertiser of used components between private individuals. This is really illegal but it

would require a small fortune to take it through the court system to adjudicate it illegal. It's no skin off of Ebay's nose to take extra money from you.

Wrong (as usual).

"Sales and Use Taxes: Tax Expenditures
California Revenue and Taxation Code Part 1, Division 3:
<https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/formspubs/pub61.pdf>

"Sales Tax California How does it get paid????"
<https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Sales-Tax-California-How-does-it-get-paid/td-p/32761461>
Read the "best answer" for details.

More:
"Sales & Use Tax in California"
<https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/taxes-and-fees/sutprograms.htm>

"Tax information - Understand tax obligations that may affect you in
the US and EU"
<https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/resources/tax-information>

54 pages. I can't find anything where a seller of used equipment is
exempt from collecting sales tax. In the distant past, eBay did NOT
collect state sales taxes, but that changed in July 2021:

Usual, Bit Defender blocks your refferences.

Great. Leave it that way. I don't want to waste my time fact
checking your amazing facts, debunking your fabrications, or reading
your endless false accusations. Continuing to complain that you can't
read my links is also a good thing because your complaints demonstrate
to anyone reading rec.bicycles.tech that you are either lying or lack
the competence to fix your mythical computer problem.

Incidentally, if you sold more than $600/year on eBay, you owe the
governments some money: <https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Sales-Tax-California-How-does-it-get-paid/td-p/32761461>
"With any total sales over $600 a year, you and the IRS are now going
to get a 1099. Whether you are a hobby or a business, you're going to
have to report your income at tax time. You'd better start keeping
receipts and track generous expense deductions, and perhaps talking to
a tax person for methods of valuation if you don't have receipts."







--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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On 2/11/2025 4:49 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Mon Feb 10 17:21:49 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Wrong (as usual).

"Sales and Use Taxes: Tax Expenditures
California Revenue and Taxation Code Part 1, Division 3:
<https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/formspubs/pub61.pdf>

"Sales Tax California How does it get paid????"
<https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Sales-Tax-California-How-does-it-get-paid/td-p/32761461>
Read the "best answer" for details.

More:
"Sales & Use Tax in California"
<https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/taxes-and-fees/sutprograms.htm>

"Tax information - Understand tax obligations that may affect you in
the US and EU"
<https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/resources/tax-information>

54 pages. I can't find anything where a seller of used equipment is
exempt from collecting sales tax. In the distant past, eBay did NOT
collect state sales taxes, but that changed in July 2021:

Usual, Bit Defender blocks your refferences.

As usual, worked for me, even (as I am now) on vacation so using a
different internet provider. Tom, you need help.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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On 2/11/2025 8:17 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 2/11/2025 4:49 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Mon Feb 10 17:21:49 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:

Wrong (as usual).

"Sales and Use Taxes: Tax Expenditures
California Revenue and Taxation Code Part 1, Division 3:
<https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/formspubs/pub61.pdf>

"Sales Tax California How does it get paid????"
<https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Sales-Tax-
California-How-does-it-get-paid/td-p/32761461>
Read the "best answer" for details.

More:
"Sales & Use Tax in California"
<https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/taxes-and-fees/sutprograms.htm>

"Tax information - Understand tax obligations that may
affect you in
the US and EU"
<https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/resources/tax-
information>

54 pages.  I can't find anything where a seller of used
equipment is
exempt from collecting sales tax.  In the distant past,
eBay did NOT
collect state sales taxes, but that changed in July 2021:

Usual, Bit Defender blocks your refferences.

As usual, worked for me, even (as I am now) on vacation so
using a different internet provider. Tom, you need help.

Specifically a neurologist. And soon.

--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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