• Another criminal cyclist

    From AMuzi@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 10:46:37 2025
    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to John B. on Fri Feb 7 19:57:19 2025
    On 2/7/2025 6:33 PM, John B. wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 10:46:37 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/


    Will we next be entertained by a motion made by the "do goodies" to
    charge the police with cruel and unusual punishment of the shooter?

    We know what works, as you often note here. Enforce our
    laws. Or repeal them.

    But ignoring law for some but not others makes a real mess.

    In the freshly independent Singapore, under the wise
    leadership of Lee Kwan Kew, the economy grew rapidly unlike
    her neighbors. This inspired a wave of illegal immigrants to
    some 10,000 or so.

    As recounted by Vic Pelson who was setting up an ATT Factory
    in Singapore at the time:

    In the 1980s, the population of illegal immigrants in
    Singapore grew to more than 10,000.

    For the iron-fisted Lee, this flouting of the law was
    unacceptable.

    The prime minister’s advisers approached Lee and asked how
    he wanted to handle the illegal immigrants.

    “Cane them,” Lee said.

    The aides were stunned. The process of caning a single
    prisoner required a team of medical officers, prison
    officials and martial artists (apparently to assure that the
    last lashes were as ferocious as the first). Prisoners could
    require hospitalization between lashes to make sure they
    were healthy enough to continue. Those who have endured the
    punishment describe the pain as excruciating and unbearable.

    “Mr. Prime Minister,” they pleaded. “You can’t possibly
    intend to cane more than 10,000 people.”

    “Of course not,” Lee replied. “We will probably need to cane
    two or three.”

    He was right. In the two weeks after the new policy was
    announced, more than 10,000 illegal immigrants fled the
    country.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 8 19:43:06 2025
    On Fri Feb 7 10:46:37 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/




    And another one down and another one down. Another one bites the dust! How did he get any guns as an illegal alien which the articloe failed to mention.

    Oakland police not doing their job at behest of the Oakland government.

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 8 19:33:10 2025
    On Sat, 08 Feb 2025 19:43:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri Feb 7 10:46:37 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/




    And another one down and another one down. Another one bites the dust! How did he get any guns as an illegal alien which the articloe failed to mention.

    The perp was born in San Francisco. A MAGA enthusiast. Was
    psychotic. Oh, did I already imply that?
    He thought that by killing the cannabis dispensary owner he
    was helping "project 2025". More bibels, less drugs !!!!
    There will be more attacks. Remember, even the mentally ill
    can keep and bear arms in the land of the free.
    []'s

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Shadow on Sun Feb 9 09:07:27 2025
    On 2/8/2025 4:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Feb 2025 19:43:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri Feb 7 10:46:37 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/




    And another one down and another one down. Another one bites the dust! How did he get any guns as an illegal alien which the articloe failed to mention.

    The perp was born in San Francisco. A MAGA enthusiast. Was
    psychotic. Oh, did I already imply that?
    He thought that by killing the cannabis dispensary owner he
    was helping "project 2025". More bibels, less drugs !!!!
    There will be more attacks. Remember, even the mentally ill
    can keep and bear arms in the land of the free.
    []'s


    That's actually true.

    Since the 1970s, it's extremely difficult to abridge a
    dangerously psychotic's rights in any way. Our culture has
    decided they are better off sleeping outside on cardboard,
    begging, self medicating, screaming at demons real or
    imagined and wreaking various sorts of mayhem on the taxpayers.

    Which, for what it's worth, leaves us yet with a lower
    homicide rate than Brasil if that matters to you. (about 1:3
    overall)

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Sun Feb 9 12:55:19 2025
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 09:07:27 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/8/2025 4:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Feb 2025 19:43:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri Feb 7 10:46:37 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/




    And another one down and another one down. Another one bites the dust! How did he get any guns as an illegal alien which the articloe failed to mention.

    The perp was born in San Francisco. A MAGA enthusiast. Was
    psychotic. Oh, did I already imply that?
    He thought that by killing the cannabis dispensary owner he
    was helping "project 2025". More bibels, less drugs !!!!
    There will be more attacks. Remember, even the mentally ill
    can keep and bear arms in the land of the free.
    []'s


    That's actually true.

    Since the 1970s, it's extremely difficult to abridge a
    dangerously psychotic's rights in any way. Our culture has
    decided they are better off sleeping outside on cardboard,
    begging, self medicating, screaming at demons real or
    imagined and wreaking various sorts of mayhem on the taxpayers.

    Which, for what it's worth, leaves us yet with a lower
    homicide rate than Brasil if that matters to you. (about 1:3
    overall)

    Brazil has been a right wing country for most of its history.
    The strongest always prevails, though strongest usually means the one
    with the bigger gun or the most bodyguards. Brazil has never had a
    decent school system, and over 80% are illiterate(but counted as
    literate if they can sign their names).
    Our justice system is also right wing, and tends to jail the
    poor and forgive the rich. Judges are not chosen by merit, it's by
    "tradition". Grandpa judge = father judge and son judge.
    Absolute poverty+a sensation justice does not exist+massive
    inequality = high crime rate.

    The only time Brazil was NOT extreme right wing was during
    Lula/Dilmas mandates. And even those would be considered right wing in
    Europe. Lula privatized, he never nationalized. He lowered taxes for
    the poor, but never increased them for the rich, And yet the
    international media labels him as "leftist". LOL.

    Well, now we have Google re-classifying search results to
    please governments, Meta and X spying on everyone and churning out
    #FAKE_NEWS like it's a vitamin, criminals nominated to high positions,
    and evangelical MFs deciding which parts of the bibel are pertinent to
    their bank accounts and which are best ignored.
    We'll have to rely on our memories and our morals for the next
    few years.
    []'s

    PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023 under Lula.
    60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime. Give people
    employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.
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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Shadow on Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 09:07:27 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/8/2025 4:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Feb 2025 19:43:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri Feb 7 10:46:37 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/




    And another one down and another one down. Another one bites the dust! How did he get any guns as an illegal alien which the articloe failed to mention.

    The perp was born in San Francisco. A MAGA enthusiast. Was
    psychotic. Oh, did I already imply that?
    He thought that by killing the cannabis dispensary owner he
    was helping "project 2025". More bibels, less drugs !!!!
    There will be more attacks. Remember, even the mentally ill
    can keep and bear arms in the land of the free.
    []'s


    That's actually true.

    Since the 1970s, it's extremely difficult to abridge a
    dangerously psychotic's rights in any way. Our culture has
    decided they are better off sleeping outside on cardboard,
    begging, self medicating, screaming at demons real or
    imagined and wreaking various sorts of mayhem on the taxpayers.

    Which, for what it's worth, leaves us yet with a lower
    homicide rate than Brasil if that matters to you. (about 1:3
    overall)

    Brazil has been a right wing country for most of its history.
    The strongest always prevails, though strongest usually means the one
    with the bigger gun or the most bodyguards. Brazil has never had a
    decent school system, and over 80% are illiterate(but counted as
    literate if they can sign their names).
    Our justice system is also right wing, and tends to jail the
    poor and forgive the rich. Judges are not chosen by merit, it's by "tradition". Grandpa judge = father judge and son judge.
    Absolute poverty+a sensation justice does not exist+massive
    inequality = high crime rate.

    The only time Brazil was NOT extreme right wing was during
    Lula/Dilmas mandates. And even those would be considered right wing in Europe. Lula privatized, he never nationalized. He lowered taxes for
    the poor, but never increased them for the rich, And yet the
    international media labels him as "leftist". LOL.

    Well, now we have Google re-classifying search results to
    please governments, Meta and X spying on everyone and churning out
    #FAKE_NEWS like it's a vitamin, criminals nominated to high positions,
    and evangelical MFs deciding which parts of the bibel are pertinent to
    their bank accounts and which are best ignored.
    We'll have to rely on our memories and our morals for the next
    few years.
    []'s

    PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023 under Lula.
    60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime. Give people employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 21:51:22 2025
    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than any other
    system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.

    Sniveling and complaining is the mark of communists throughout the world. And usually because they aren't bright enough to work inside of ANY system. They believe that they have a right to be rich at the expense of others simply because they exist. When
    you think about it shadow really is a sad excuse for a human being.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 21:39:12 2025
    On Sun Feb 9 09:07:27 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/8/2025 4:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Feb 2025 19:43:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri Feb 7 10:46:37 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/




    And another one down and another one down. Another one bites the dust! How did he get any guns as an illegal alien which the articloe failed to mention.

    The perp was born in San Francisco. A MAGA enthusiast. Was
    psychotic. Oh, did I already imply that?
    He thought that by killing the cannabis dispensary owner he
    was helping "project 2025". More bibels, less drugs !!!!
    There will be more attacks. Remember, even the mentally ill
    can keep and bear arms in the land of the free.
    []'s


    That's actually true.

    Since the 1970s, it's extremely difficult to abridge a
    dangerously psychotic's rights in any way. Our culture has
    decided they are better off sleeping outside on cardboard,
    begging, self medicating, screaming at demons real or
    imagined and wreaking various sorts of mayhem on the taxpayers.

    Which, for what it's worth, leaves us yet with a lower
    homicide rate than Brasil if that matters to you. (about 1:3
    overall)




    Nothing matters to that "shadow" jackass than to lie about anything and everything as if he actually knew something. The Bazilian government is spending a lot of time seeking out the communists which is why this horses ass is hiding under a pseudonym.

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 19:26:46 2025
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:39:12 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 09:07:27 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/8/2025 4:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Feb 2025 19:43:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri Feb 7 10:46:37 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/




    And another one down and another one down. Another one bites the dust! How did he get any guns as an illegal alien which the articloe failed to mention.

    The perp was born in San Francisco. A MAGA enthusiast. Was
    psychotic. Oh, did I already imply that?
    He thought that by killing the cannabis dispensary owner he
    was helping "project 2025". More bibels, less drugs !!!!
    There will be more attacks. Remember, even the mentally ill
    can keep and bear arms in the land of the free.
    []'s


    That's actually true.

    Since the 1970s, it's extremely difficult to abridge a
    dangerously psychotic's rights in any way. Our culture has
    decided they are better off sleeping outside on cardboard,
    begging, self medicating, screaming at demons real or
    imagined and wreaking various sorts of mayhem on the taxpayers.

    Which, for what it's worth, leaves us yet with a lower
    homicide rate than Brasil if that matters to you. (about 1:3
    overall)




    Nothing matters to that "shadow" jackass than to lie about anything and everything as if he actually knew something. The Bazilian government is spending a lot of time seeking out the communists which is why this horses ass is hiding under a pseudonym.

    We have two "official" communist parties here in Brazil(PCB
    and PC do B). Both support Bolsonaro/Trump, because what they really
    want is a dictatorship.
    Lula kicked all communists out of the Worker's Party decades
    ago. None left in his party.
    You really should study at least some politics before posting.

    How's the US going? I heard Google is putting a list of
    "unlawful extraterrestrials" that Obama kicked out on the first search
    page. So people think the orange thing is actually doing something.
    Not really #FAKE_NEWS but certainly #FAKE_SEARCH_RESULTS.
    What about the new taxes or "Tariffs". 100% on everything
    Chinese? Not happening? What, Musk, Bezos and Zukerberg made over 200
    billion dollars off pension funds and charities that thought that
    Trump was not lying, and sold their shares in export/import companies
    at a massive loss?
    I'm surprised.... NOT!!!!
    The woman in charge of solving the drug overdose problem.
    While she was in power the number of deaths DOUBLED? Well, that'll
    work. Less addicts, less people left to die.... incredible!!!

    <https://reason.com/2024/11/27/florida-drug-deaths-rose-dramatically-as-pam-bondi-did-her-incredible-job-of-reducing-them/>

    I'll leave it at that. You must have a headache. And I didn't
    even mention the new Riviera in New Auschwitz......
    []'s

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    We have a new policy - Google 2012
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 20:15:35 2025
    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than any
    other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other
    country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 11 21:44:40 2025
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than any
    other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other
    country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops to
    Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Tue Feb 11 18:45:58 2025
    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than any
    other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other
    country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops to
    Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html

    same thing after all.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Frank Krygowski@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Tue Feb 11 20:58:35 2025
    On 2/9/2025 11:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:

        PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023 under Lula.
    60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime. Give people
    employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal- with-mass-shootings/

    Hmm. Focusing on outliers yet again!

    https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier

    I'd bet that Swedish news outlets never bother to report much about
    American mass shootings. They're too common to be interesting.


    --
    - Frank Krygowski

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Frank Krygowski on Tue Feb 11 20:28:02 2025
    On 2/11/2025 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 11:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:

        PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023
    under Lula.
    60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime.
    Give people
    employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

     From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-
    has-to-deal- with-mass-shootings/

    Hmm. Focusing on outliers yet again!

    https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting- data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier

    I'd bet that Swedish news outlets never bother to report
    much about American mass shootings. They're too common to be
    interesting.


    The important point of the piece is the ineffectiveness of
    legislation across a wide range of policy and culture.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Frank Krygowski@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Tue Feb 11 21:37:17 2025
    On 2/11/2025 9:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/11/2025 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 11:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:

        PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023 under Lula.
    60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime. Give people
    employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

     From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden- has-to-
    deal- with-mass-shootings/

    Hmm. Focusing on outliers yet again!

    https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting- data/gun-
    violence-united-states-outlier

    I'd bet that Swedish news outlets never bother to report much about
    American mass shootings. They're too common to be interesting.


    The important point of the piece is the ineffectiveness of legislation
    across a wide range of policy and culture.

    Still! If legislation consistently causes a far lower number of bad
    incidents, one exceptional incident doesn't prove the legislation was bad.

    --
    - Frank Krygowski

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Wed Feb 12 03:46:35 2025
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than any
    other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other
    country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops to
    Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people" obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to frkrygow@gXXmail.com on Wed Feb 12 04:32:55 2025
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:37:17 -0500, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 9:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/11/2025 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 11:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:

    PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023 under Lula.
    60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime. Give people
    employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden- has-to-
    deal- with-mass-shootings/

    Hmm. Focusing on outliers yet again!

    https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting- data/gun-
    violence-united-states-outlier

    I'd bet that Swedish news outlets never bother to report much about
    American mass shootings. They're too common to be interesting.


    The important point of the piece is the ineffectiveness of legislation
    across a wide range of policy and culture.

    Still! If legislation consistently causes a far lower number of bad >incidents, one exceptional incident doesn't prove the legislation was bad.

    That there might be lower numbers of bad incidents does not prove it
    was caused by legislation.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Rolf Mantel@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 10:54:01 2025
    Am 12.02.2025 um 10:32 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:37:17 -0500, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 9:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/11/2025 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 11:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:

        PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023 under Lula. >>>>>> 60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime. Give people >>>>>> employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

     From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden- has-to-
    deal- with-mass-shootings/

    Hmm. Focusing on outliers yet again!

    https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting- data/gun- >>>> violence-united-states-outlier

    I'd bet that Swedish news outlets never bother to report much about
    American mass shootings. They're too common to be interesting.

    The important point of the piece is the ineffectiveness of legislation
    across a wide range of policy and culture.

    Still! If legislation consistently causes a far lower number of bad
    incidents, one exceptional incident doesn't prove the legislation was bad.

    That there might be lower numbers of bad incidents does not prove it
    was caused by legislation.

    Sure, correlation is not causation. However, it is a storng indicator
    that the legislation was not detrimental to reducing the number of
    incidents because an "anti-causation" would break correlation.

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 09:10:09 2025
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S. there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?

    I suppose it might seem like that to most of the people most
    of the time.....
    Until one day they wake up....
    Of course, the alphabets, meta's, amazons and x's try to delay
    that from happening.
    []'s

    --
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    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Frank Krygowski on Wed Feb 12 07:43:15 2025
    On 2/11/2025 8:37 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/11/2025 9:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/11/2025 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 11:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:

        PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023
    under Lula.
    60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime.
    Give people
    employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

     From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-
    sweden- has-to- deal- with-mass-shootings/

    Hmm. Focusing on outliers yet again!

    https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/
    acting- data/gun- violence-united-states-outlier

    I'd bet that Swedish news outlets never bother to report
    much about American mass shootings. They're too common to
    be interesting.


    The important point of the piece is the ineffectiveness of
    legislation across a wide range of policy and culture.

    Still! If legislation consistently causes a far lower number
    of bad incidents, one exceptional incident doesn't prove the
    legislation was bad.


    No one said 'bad'. Merely irrelevant.
    c.f. the States and cities with the most restrictive
    firearms regulation enjoy excessive rates of forearm violence.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to news@hartig-mantel.de on Wed Feb 12 08:43:09 2025
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:54:01 +0100, Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:

    Am 12.02.2025 um 10:32 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:37:17 -0500, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 9:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/11/2025 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 11:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:

    PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023 under Lula. >>>>>>> 60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime. Give people >>>>>>> employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden- has-to- >>>>>> deal- with-mass-shootings/

    Hmm. Focusing on outliers yet again!

    https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting- data/gun- >>>>> violence-united-states-outlier

    I'd bet that Swedish news outlets never bother to report much about
    American mass shootings. They're too common to be interesting.

    The important point of the piece is the ineffectiveness of legislation >>>> across a wide range of policy and culture.

    Still! If legislation consistently causes a far lower number of bad
    incidents, one exceptional incident doesn't prove the legislation was bad. >>
    That there might be lower numbers of bad incidents does not prove it
    was caused by legislation.

    Sure, correlation is not causation. However, it is a storng indicator
    that the legislation was not detrimental to reducing the number of
    incidents because an "anti-causation" would break correlation.

    It might have been something that happened in another country, like
    perhaps they stopped allowing their thugs to come across the border.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to John B. on Wed Feb 12 07:49:26 2025
    On 2/12/2025 5:06 AM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than
    any other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other
    country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops
    to Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people" obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S. there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?

    It is not.
    We are a constitutional republic, which is different from
    mob rule.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 09:15:02 2025
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than
    any other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other
    country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops
    to Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.
    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people" obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S. there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off their political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 09:30:18 2025
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 21:04:50 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 08:43:09 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:54:01 +0100, Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:

    Am 12.02.2025 um 10:32 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:37:17 -0500, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 9:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/11/2025 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 11:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 9:55 AM, Shadow wrote:

    PS There were 40.000 homicides in Brazil in 2023 under Lula. >>>>>>>>> 60.000 homicides in 2017 in the Temer/Bolsonaro regime. Give people >>>>>>>>> employment and salaries, they'll commit less crimes.

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden- has-to- >>>>>>>> deal- with-mass-shootings/

    Hmm. Focusing on outliers yet again!

    https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting- data/gun- >>>>>>> violence-united-states-outlier

    I'd bet that Swedish news outlets never bother to report much about >>>>>>> American mass shootings. They're too common to be interesting.

    The important point of the piece is the ineffectiveness of legislation >>>>>> across a wide range of policy and culture.

    Still! If legislation consistently causes a far lower number of bad
    incidents, one exceptional incident doesn't prove the legislation was bad.

    That there might be lower numbers of bad incidents does not prove it
    was caused by legislation.

    Sure, correlation is not causation. However, it is a storng indicator >>>that the legislation was not detrimental to reducing the number of >>>incidents because an "anti-causation" would break correlation.

    It might have been something that happened in another country, like
    perhaps they stopped allowing their thugs to come across the border.


    Thailand solved the problem of illegal workers.

    The law says that someone that hires illegal workers or assign legal
    workers to unauthorized jobs. face fines of 10,000 to 100,000 baht per >worker. Repeat offenders risk up to a year in prison,

    In current terms 10,000 baht, in Thailand, amounts to about 27 days at >minimum salary rates.

    Needless to say there are few illegal workers here, which in turn
    means that unemployment rates are very low.

    That's against the law here, too, but isn't enforced in many states.

    A Florida restaurant owner has found himself in hot water after
    pleading guilty to employing undocumented workers. Hua Yao Ke, 38,
    owner and operator of Kamiya 86 Sushi and Thai restaurant, admitted to
    hiring workers who were unlawfully present in the United States and
    failing to verify their legal work status.

    Kes scheme went beyond just hiring undocumented workers. He also
    provided them with free housing and transportation, paid them in cash,
    and failed to withhold taxes from their wages, according to the plea
    agreement.

    https://www.tampafp.com/sushi-chef-rolls-up-trouble-florida-restaurant-owner-pleads-guilty-to-employing-illegal-aliens/

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 19:27:58 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 07:21:02 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education >>>>>>>>>>> system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally >>>>>>>>>>> ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each >>>>>>>>>>> one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific >>>>>>>>>>> issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than
    any other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other >>>>>>>>> country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops
    to Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.
    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler at the top >>>>pulling strings and making sure all of the "people" obey the >>>>regulations and don't go around thinking that they might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S. there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still claiming to be a >>>democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off their political >>decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the best of the
    bunch?


    Look at the sad state of the country... 36 trillion dollars in debt.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to John B. on Wed Feb 12 19:33:28 2025
    On 2/12/2025 6:21 PM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education >>>>>>>>>>> system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally >>>>>>>>>>> ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each >>>>>>>>>>> one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific >>>>>>>>>>> issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than
    any other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other >>>>>>>>> country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops
    to Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people" obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S. there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off their political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the best of the
    bunch?


    Probably more true than we would like to think.

    At least 'best' at climbing the greasy pole to office

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Catrike Ryder on Wed Feb 12 19:35:37 2025
    On 2/12/2025 6:27 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 07:21:02 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education >>>>>>>>>>>> system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally >>>>>>>>>>>> ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each >>>>>>>>>>>> one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific >>>>>>>>>>>> issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than
    any other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other >>>>>>>>>> country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out
    troops to Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people" obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they might know what's >>>>> in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S. there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off their political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the best of the
    bunch?


    Look at the sad state of the country... 36 trillion dollars in debt.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    Caller to radio station yesterday, "USAID staff says they
    send aid to people who have nothing. But we owe
    $36,000,000,000,000.00. Isn't that worse than having nothing?"

    https://usadebtclock.com/

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to John B. on Thu Feb 13 16:11:35 2025
    On 2/12/2025 7:21 PM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education >>>>>>>>>>> system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally >>>>>>>>>>> ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above.

    We all have our preferred political environment. And each >>>>>>>>>>> one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific >>>>>>>>>>> issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster than
    any other system, as being a weak system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other >>>>>>>>> country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their population. I said that communism doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops
    to Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people" obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S. there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off their political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.

    yup, last november is a classic example of morons re-electing a grifter.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the best of the
    bunch?

    The smart ones don't run for office.




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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Zen Cycle on Thu Feb 13 16:35:56 2025
    On 2/13/2025 3:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 2/12/2025 7:21 PM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B.
    <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi
    <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B.  wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B.  wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi  wrote:

       From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-
    shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy
    education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of
    mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the
    above.

    We all have our preferred political environment.
    And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in
    those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply
    cannot work and ended their system. They
    supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their
    country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked
    anywhere in the world does not stop believers in
    communism from tauting its "advantages" or
    complaining about the weaknessses of the free
    enterprise system that made more people richer,
    faster than any other system, as being a weak
    system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S.
    then any other
    country doesn't work?  Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon
    fiber seatposts to America.

    And some  $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that
    the CCP is forced to look the other way while free
    enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their
    population. I said that communism doesn't work and
    this plus North Korea renting out troops to Russia so
    that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend
    knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about
    you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about
    things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese
    characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-
    does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-
    mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler
    at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people"
    obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they
    might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S.
    there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still
    claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off their
    political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.

    yup, last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the
    best of the
    bunch?

    The smart ones don't run for office.


    "last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter."


    I assume that's Kathy Hochul.


    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Thu Feb 13 18:00:16 2025
    On 2/13/2025 5:35 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 3:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 2/12/2025 7:21 PM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
    wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B.  wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B.  wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi  wrote:

       From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun- shy-sweden- >>>>>>>>>>>>> has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy education >>>>>>>>>>>>> system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of mentally >>>>>>>>>>>>> ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We all have our preferred political environment. And each >>>>>>>>>>>>> one of us is regularly disappointed. But in those specific >>>>>>>>>>>>> issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply cannot work >>>>>>>>>>>> and ended their system. They supposedly dropped to plain >>>>>>>>>>>> socialism but their country is not rich enough to afford >>>>>>>>>>>> real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked anywhere in the >>>>>>>>>>>> world does not stop believers in communism from tauting its >>>>>>>>>>>> "advantages" or complaining about the weaknessses of the >>>>>>>>>>>> free enterprise system that made more people richer, faster >>>>>>>>>>>> than any other system, as being a weak system because it >>>>>>>>>>>> isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S. then any other >>>>>>>>>>> country doesn't work?  Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon fiber
    seatposts to America.

    And some  $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that the CCP is >>>>>>>> forced to look the other way while free enterprise is feeding a >>>>>>>> substancial portion of their population. I said that communism >>>>>>>> doesn't work and this plus North Korea renting out troops to
    Russia so that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend
    knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about you -
    unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't
    understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What- does-path-of- >>>>>>> socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics- mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler at the top >>>>>> pulling strings and making sure all of the "people" obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they might know what's >>>>>> in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S. there seems to >>>>> be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off their political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.

    yup, last november is a classic example of morons re- electing a grifter.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the best of the
    bunch?

    The smart ones don't run for office.


    "last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter."


    I assume that's Kathy Hochul.



    yeah...sure...<eyeroll>

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Thu Feb 13 18:02:11 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 16:35:56 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/13/2025 3:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 2/12/2025 7:21 PM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B.
    <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi
    <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-gun-
    shy-sweden-has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy
    education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse of
    mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the
    above.

    We all have our preferred political environment.
    And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in
    those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply
    cannot work and ended their system. They
    supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their
    country is not rich enough to afford real socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked
    anywhere in the world does not stop believers in
    communism from tauting its "advantages" or
    complaining about the weaknessses of the free
    enterprise system that made more people richer,
    faster than any other system, as being a weak
    system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S.
    then any other
    country doesn't work? Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon
    fiber seatposts to America.

    And some $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that
    the CCP is forced to look the other way while free
    enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of their
    population. I said that communism doesn't work and
    this plus North Korea renting out troops to Russia so
    that they can eat is just more proof. Your pretend
    knowledge of economics is like everytthing else about
    you - unadulterated bullshit. Stop talking about
    things you don't understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese
    characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-
    does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-
    mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful ruler
    at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people"
    obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they
    might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S.
    there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still
    claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off their
    political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.

    yup, last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the
    best of the
    bunch?

    The smart ones don't run for office.


    "last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter."


    I assume that's Kathy Hochul.

    Adam Schiff

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Zen Cycle on Fri Feb 14 07:51:01 2025
    On 2/13/2025 5:00 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 5:35 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 3:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 2/12/2025 7:21 PM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B.
    <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi
    <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B.  wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B.  wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi  wrote:

       From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-
    gun- shy-sweden- has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/

    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy
    education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse
    of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the
    above.

    We all have our preferred political
    environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in
    those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply
    cannot work and ended their system. They
    supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their
    country is not rich enough to afford real
    socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked
    anywhere in the world does not stop believers
    in communism from tauting its "advantages" or
    complaining about the weaknessses of the free
    enterprise system that made more people richer,
    faster than any other system, as being a weak
    system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S.
    then any other
    country doesn't work?  Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon
    fiber seatposts to America.

    And some  $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that
    the CCP is forced to look the other way while free
    enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of
    their population. I said that communism doesn't
    work and this plus North Korea renting out troops
    to Russia so that they can eat is just more proof.
    Your pretend knowledge of economics is like
    everytthing else about you - unadulterated
    bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't
    understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese
    characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-
    does-path-of- socialism-with-Chinese-
    characteristics- mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful
    ruler at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people"
    obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they
    might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S.
    there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still
    claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off
    their political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.

    yup, last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the
    best of the
    bunch?

    The smart ones don't run for office.


    "last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter."


    I assume that's Kathy Hochul.



    yeah...sure...<eyeroll>


    https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2022/03/30/where-hochul-money-bills-stadium-came-from/7216477001/

    https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/buffalo-bills-stadium-hochul/

    But, hey, The People have spoken.



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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to John B. on Fri Feb 14 08:50:01 2025
    On 2/14/2025 8:14 AM, John B. wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 07:51:01 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/13/2025 5:00 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 5:35 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 3:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 2/12/2025 7:21 PM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:15:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:06:16 +0700, John B.
    <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:46:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:45:58 -0600, AMuzi
    <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/11/2025 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Feb 11 08:49:50 2025 John B.  wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:15:35 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 10 07:28:25 2025 John B.  wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:22 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun Feb 9 10:46:23 2025 AMuzi  wrote:

       From today's paper:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/opinion/even-
    gun- shy-sweden- has-to-deal-with-mass-shootings/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Many of the failures we share (miserably lousy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education
    system, homicides and assaults, abject abuse
    of mentally
    ill) defy simple analysis as noted well in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above.

    We all have our preferred political
    environment. And each
    one of us is regularly disappointed. But in
    those specific
    issues results cross all political lines.






    The Russians discovered that communism simply
    cannot work and ended their system. They
    supposedly dropped to plain socialism but their
    country is not rich enough to afford real
    socialism.

    But the fact that communism has NEVER worked
    anywhere in the world does not stop believers
    in communism from tauting its "advantages" or
    complaining about the weaknessses of the free
    enterprise system that made more people richer,
    faster than any other system, as being a weak
    system because it isn't perfect.


    You mean China - who sell more stuff to the U.S.
    then any other
    country doesn't work?  Or Vietnam doesn't work?

    They are both classified as communist.




    Everyone got this now, the CCP is selling carbon
    fiber seatposts to America.

    And some  $562.9 billion worth of other stuff.




    John, China is in such a bad economic position that
    the CCP is forced to look the other way while free
    enterprise is feeding a substancial portion of
    their population. I said that communism doesn't
    work and this plus North Korea renting out troops
    to Russia so that they can eat is just more proof.
    Your pretend knowledge of economics is like
    everytthing else about you - unadulterated
    bullshit. Stop talking about things you don't
    understand.


    Well, nothing has changed.
    Now it's called 'capitalism with chinese
    characteristics'.

    https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-
    does-path-of- socialism-with-Chinese-
    characteristics- mean.html

    same thing after all.

    All forms of collectivism require a rich powerful
    ruler at the top
    pulling strings and making sure all of the "people"
    obey the
    regulations and don't go around thinking that they
    might know what's
    in their own best interest.

    Well, "free" money has a great allure and in the U.S.
    there seems to
    be a considerable amount of it. The U.S. is still
    claiming to be a
    democratic government, is it not?


    Sadly, we have career politicians who get rich off
    their political
    decisions and we have morons who keep re-electing them.

    yup, last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter.


    Ever stop to think the ones that get elected may be the
    best of the
    bunch?

    The smart ones don't run for office.


    "last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter."


    I assume that's Kathy Hochul.



    yeah...sure...<eyeroll>


    https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2022/03/30/where-hochul-money-bills-stadium-came-from/7216477001/

    https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/buffalo-bills-stadium-hochul/

    But, hey, The People have spoken.

    "a new housing voucher program for the homeless and economic
    assistance for undocumented immigrants."A really great plan.


    Mere distractions.

    The whole point is: https://www.levernews.com/hochuls-stadium-deal-involved-seneca-ransom-money-and-could-benefit-her-family/

    Very well reported, for years, including sharp criticism
    from elected officials in her own party, but NY voters don't
    care.

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    Andrew Muzi
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    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to Frank Krygowski on Fri Feb 14 14:10:38 2025
    On 2/14/2025 11:22 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 2/14/2025 8:51 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 5:00 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 2/13/2025 5:35 PM, AMuzi wrote:

    "last november is a classic example of morons re-
    electing a grifter."


    I assume that's Kathy Hochul.



    yeah...sure...<eyeroll>


    https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2022/03/30/where-
    hochul- money-bills-stadium-came-from/7216477001/

    https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/buffalo-bills-stadium-hochul/

    But, hey, The People have spoken.

    It takes real dedication to ignore the much, much more obvious example.


    Which incidentally has a much greater effect on the American citizen
    than some local shenanigans.

    Sort of like ranting about how unpatriotic the Associated Press is when
    Musk is gutting the FCC to get a better deal for Starlink.

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    Add xx to reply

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 16 23:55:14 2025
    On Sat Feb 8 07:33:53 2025 John B. wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 10:46:37 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    with action video

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/terrifying-moment-san-francisco-store-owner-is-shot-seven-times-at-point-blank-range-in-random-attack/


    Will we next be entertained by a motion made by the "do goodies" to
    charge the police with cruel and unusual punishment of the shooter?




    That is a gang initiation. They hand him a pistol and tell him not to come back unless it's empty

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 08:46:14 2025
    https://ktla.com/news/local-news/uber-driver-fights-with-suspect-in-wild-carjacking-captured-on-video/
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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