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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 17:09:14 2025
    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If you
    weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If you
    weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023: <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk> <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all
    of them.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 16:19:25 2025
    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If
    you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023: <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk> <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all
    of them.




    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment? Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable to
    afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he released one document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Tue Feb 18 10:27:14 2025
    On 2/18/2025 10:19 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If
    you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all
    of them.




    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment? Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable to
    afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he released one document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.


    It's early to this story.

    Let's see what is released, what is yet redacted and what is
    withheld before we jump to conclusions.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Tue Feb 18 16:35:10 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:27:14 -0600,
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/18/2025 10:19 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it
    interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that
    Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports
    Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the
    government? If you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned
    for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023> I'm sure
    there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all
    of them.

    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you
    comment? Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the
    actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out
    lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable
    to afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he
    released one document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question
    of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and
    Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.

    It's early to this story.

    Let's see what is released, what is yet redacted and what is
    withheld before we jump to conclusions.

    New here?

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 14:26:43 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:19:25 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If
    you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all
    of them.




    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment? Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy

    Kennedy autopsy report released to the public 27th December
    2009


    <https://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/kennedy,%20john_report.pdf>

    (use wget or curl with appropriate command line to retrieve
    date document was released)

    Authorized by your favorite President, his Highness and
    Excellency Barack Obama, the one with the record Stock Exchange gains.

    The photos were released by his Highness and Excellency
    President Biden:

    <https://ia801207.us.archive.org/zip_dir.php?path=/33/items/Kennedy_autopsy_gallery.zip>

    Again, check the date (2024 - wget won't work).

    If your anti-virus is blocking the Internet again, you'll just
    have to trust me on this.

    You're too old to be taken in by con men like Trump. Act your
    age.

    which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied.

    LOL. So now you invented autopsies?
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 10:04:05 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:19:25 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If
    you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all
    of them.

    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment?

    It's amazing how you borrow some of my tag lines. I comment to ruin
    your credibility and trust in RBT. When nobody believe you, I have accomplished my goal. As for feeling good, you lie, insult and
    fabricate events in RBT in order to demean anyone who dares to post
    something that fails to match your agenda of the day. You seem to
    believe that by belittling someone else, you raise your perceived
    importance or somehow reinforce your talking points. It doesn't work
    that way. I could be evil personified and you would still be wrong.

    Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable to afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he released one
    document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    Searching with Google found no such things. Got any links to this
    document release?

    Incidentally, I did find this:
    "FBI says it found 2,400 new JFK assassination records" (Feb 12,
    2025) <https://apnews.com/article/jfk-fbi-trump-newly-discovered-files-0bd8ad5569f5fa3ed92b8ee9b795c9e7>
    Did you really mean 24,000 or was it 2,400?

    According to the above article, there are millions of documents just
    waiting to be declassified:
    "Trump has promised again to release the last JFK files. But experts
    say don’t expect big revelations" (Nov 21, 2024) <https://apnews.com/article/jfk-assassination-documents-release-trump-50ea62770b13f0ffc11ca18dde03500d>
    "...those who have studied the records released so far say that even
    if the remaining files are declassified, the public shouldn’t
    anticipate any earth-shattering revelations."

    Free advice. Don't hold your breath.

    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.

    You might be right about my brain. Why I bother to respond to you
    isn't very rational. But, since fooling you using your own words as
    evidence is so easy, it doesn't burn much time or effort. I should
    just ignore you and do something useful instead.


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Tue Feb 18 16:37:58 2025
    On 2/18/2025 1:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:19:25 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If
    you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all
    of them.

    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment?

    It's amazing how you borrow some of my tag lines. I comment to ruin
    your credibility and trust in RBT. When nobody believe you, I have accomplished my goal. As for feeling good, you lie, insult and
    fabricate events in RBT in order to demean anyone who dares to post
    something that fails to match your agenda of the day. You seem to
    believe that by belittling someone else, you raise your perceived
    importance or somehow reinforce your talking points. It doesn't work
    that way. I could be evil personified and you would still be wrong.

    Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable to afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he released one
    document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    Searching with Google found no such things. Got any links to this
    document release?

    Incidentally, I did find this:
    "FBI says it found 2,400 new JFK assassination records" (Feb 12,
    2025) <https://apnews.com/article/jfk-fbi-trump-newly-discovered-files-0bd8ad5569f5fa3ed92b8ee9b795c9e7>
    Did you really mean 24,000 or was it 2,400?

    According to the above article, there are millions of documents just
    waiting to be declassified:
    "Trump has promised again to release the last JFK files. But experts
    say don’t expect big revelations" (Nov 21, 2024) <https://apnews.com/article/jfk-assassination-documents-release-trump-50ea62770b13f0ffc11ca18dde03500d>
    "...those who have studied the records released so far say that even
    if the remaining files are declassified, the public shouldn’t
    anticipate any earth-shattering revelations."

    Free advice. Don't hold your breath.

    I offer countering advice - hold your breath, use duct tape if necessary.


    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.

    You might be right about my brain. Why I bother to respond to you
    isn't very rational. But, since fooling you using your own words as
    evidence is so easy, it doesn't burn much time or effort. I should
    just ignore you and do something useful instead.




    --
    Add xx to reply

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 04:02:42 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:27:24 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:27:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 10:19 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If
    you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all >>>> of them.




    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment? Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable to
    afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he released one document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.


    It's early to this story.

    Let's see what is released, what is yet redacted and what is
    withheld before we jump to conclusions.

    Well, you can be sure that if the papers don't match what this guy or
    that guy thinks they should then the argument will be that there must
    be even more hidden records and they should be released also.

    I'm not execting anything earthshattering. Such secrets as that tend
    to find their way to the surface.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 06:40:25 2025
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/sTGk0ENtVjA/m/70nDjoX7rCkJOn Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:20:12 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:02:42 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:27:24 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:27:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 10:19 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government?
    If you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all >>>>>> of them.




    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment? Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable
    to afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he released one document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.


    It's early to this story.

    Let's see what is released, what is yet redacted and what is
    withheld before we jump to conclusions.

    Well, you can be sure that if the papers don't match what this guy or >>>that guy thinks they should then the argument will be that there must
    be even more hidden records and they should be released also.

    I'm not execting anything earthshattering. Such secrets as that tend
    to find their way to the surface.

    Before we went to the Enewetak atomic tests and as part of the get
    ready training we were brief on classified information.
    It seems that anyone in position of authority can classify
    information but de-classifying it is a bit more complicated as there
    has to be a study made to determine whether the information is still
    secret so in most cases information once classified secret, or
    whatever, just stays classified.

    In our case we were told that anything you see, hear, or do here is >classified and is secret until we tell you different... and they have
    never done that.

    So a president's secret papers may be actual secrets or just that he
    had a bowel movement on Friday morning :-)

    Keeping "earthshattering secrets" secret for decades requires a lot of
    people, and people are very easily bought to get stories about simple misbehavior.

    https://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Secret-Service-JFK-Alford/2012/02/13/id/429282/

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to John B. on Wed Feb 19 08:11:55 2025
    On 2/19/2025 5:20 AM, John B. wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:02:42 -0500, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:27:24 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:27:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 10:19 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government?
    If you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all >>>>>> of them.




    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment? Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable
    to afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he released one document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.


    It's early to this story.

    Let's see what is released, what is yet redacted and what is
    withheld before we jump to conclusions.

    Well, you can be sure that if the papers don't match what this guy or
    that guy thinks they should then the argument will be that there must
    be even more hidden records and they should be released also.

    I'm not execting anything earthshattering. Such secrets as that tend
    to find their way to the surface.

    Before we went to the Enewetak atomic tests and as part of the get
    ready training we were brief on classified information.
    It seems that anyone in position of authority can classify
    information but de-classifying it is a bit more complicated as there
    has to be a study made to determine whether the information is still
    secret so in most cases information once classified secret, or
    whatever, just stays classified.

    In our case we were told that anything you see, hear, or do here is classified and is secret until we tell you different... and they have
    never done that.

    So a president's secret papers may be actual secrets or just that he
    had a bowel movement on Friday morning :-)


    People have criticized overuse of 'classified information'
    for years. To no effect.

    Another example:

    https://www.newsnationnow.com/your-morning/area-51-veterans-cancer/

    Can't claim injury because they can't say where they served.
    Can anyone make that make sense??

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 18:01:52 2025
    On Tue Feb 18 10:04:05 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:19:25 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon Feb 17 11:54:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:09:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now that Trump declassified the JFK papers don't you find it interesting that I was 150% right? Isn't it time that Liebermann says that I am wrong again as that POS supports Biden giving pardons to every criminal in the or around the government? If
    you weren't a crimanal what were you pardoned for?

    Biden release quite a few documents between 2017 and 2023:
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk>
    <https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023>
    I'm sure there will be more. Let me know when you're done reading all
    of them.

    It must make you feel good to be stupid or else why would you comment?

    It's amazing how you borrow some of my tag lines. I comment to ruin
    your credibility and trust in RBT. When nobody believe you, I have accomplished my goal. As for feeling good, you lie, insult and
    fabricate events in RBT in order to demean anyone who dares to post
    something that fails to match your agenda of the day. You seem to
    believe that by belittling someone else, you raise your perceived
    importance or somehow reinforce your talking points. It doesn't work
    that way. I could be evil personified and you would still be wrong.

    Trump declassified 24,000 documents including the actual autopsy which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied. But you want to tell us that the man who made you unable to afford a loaf of bread was better than Trump because he released one
    document that agreed with the Warren Commission.

    Searching with Google found no such things. Got any links to this
    document release?

    Incidentally, I did find this:
    "FBI says it found 2,400 new JFK assassination records" (Feb 12,
    2025) <https://apnews.com/article/jfk-fbi-trump-newly-discovered-files-0bd8ad5569f5fa3ed92b8ee9b795c9e7>
    Did you really mean 24,000 or was it 2,400?

    According to the above article, there are millions of documents just
    waiting to be declassified:
    "Trump has promised again to release the last JFK files. But experts
    say don?t expect big revelations" (Nov 21, 2024) <https://apnews.com/article/jfk-assassination-documents-release-trump-50ea62770b13f0ffc11ca18dde03500d>
    "...those who have studied the records released so far say that even
    if the remaining files are declassified, the public shouldn?t
    anticipate any earth-shattering revelations."

    Free advice. Don't hold your breath.

    You simply do not have a working brain and there is a question of whether it ever did. You can fool Roger, Flunky and Krygowski because they are so biased but not me.

    You might be right about my brain. Why I bother to respond to you
    isn't very rational. But, since fooling you using your own words as
    evidence is so easy, it doesn't burn much time or effort. I should
    just ignore you and do something useful instead.




    The 2400 pages of JFK papres were do to be declassified in 1997 or 2007 at the lkatest. They actually show the autopsy results and there is no question that he weas hit high on the back probably by Lee Harvey Oswald and he was hit from the front from the
    "gunman on the grassy knoll" in the head. The Warren Commision were utter liars. Some excuse them saying that the information was coming from the FBI who did not want the real murderers caught. J. Edgar Hoover hated JFK and actually went to the horse
    races with the assistant chief of the FBI that day so that they had an alibi. JFK's destination was changed at the last second so the ONLY people that knew that he was going to Houston was the Secret Service and the CIA. At the last second Governor
    Donally was informed. Oswald was meant to be shot down in the street and when he wasn't the CIA reverted to using the Mafia who used Jack Ruby to kill Lee Harvey Oswald. No normal person could not only have gotten near Oswald but the Mafia and certainbly
    not with a gun. Ruby later turned up having hung himself (shades of Jeffrey Epstein.)

    JFK autopsy results showed a basebsll sized hole in the back of his head - proving that he had been shot in the head from the front. The Oswald shot had been a nn-lethal strike high on the back of JFK's right side chest.

    Now we have that geniuses among electronics engineers, Jeffrey Liebermann telling us that all of these just declassified papers are lies. He knows this because he is on welfare and welfare queens know everything.

    By the way Liebermann, yesterday I got another tax information from Stel: I just made another %30,000 profit on another sale of stock. That puts me over $1.1 Million.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 18:36:30 2025
    On Wed Feb 19 04:02:42 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:

    I'm not execting anything earthshattering. Such secrets as that tend
    to find their way to the surface.




    The papers are quit explicit. JFK relalized that the CIA had lied to him about Vietnam - there WAS no movement for a free enterprise system there. Most of Vietnam didn't care what government they had and Communism sounded better to them as it does to
    Shadow. The CIA was doing nothing more than they did all over the world in the last 70 years: start wars to profit the weapons industry. Kennedy was going to pull the US military including the military advisors out of Vietnam.

    The CIA first enlisted Cuban Castroites too kill Kennedy since they were more than pissed off from the failed Bay of Pigs invasion effort. The CIA simply told them that it was Kennedy's idea.

    Since only 45% of the public believed the Warren Commision I wouldn't sau that the newly released papers would be earthshattering.

    But RFK Jr. has said MANY times that Sirhan Sirhan did NOT kill his father - that like all fools with a gun he missed with every shot and his father was killed (Remember, at the time RFK was attorney General who could open a case about his brother's
    assassination.) by being shot in the back at close range. It is EASY to tell the exact range since anything closer than 10 feet leaves unmistakeable traces. In RFK's case the gun was pressed into his back. The details are too ugly to describe,

    It also appears that the CIA was involved in the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King. Why that SOB was preaching PEACE. The CIA couldn't have that. Even when I was in Guam, the CIA was running drugs out of Laos using military aircraft that they would
    park far away from our bombers. Ground crews would tell us what was going on.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 18:46:37 2025
    On Wed Feb 19 12:21:38 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    " Ruby died from a pulmonary embolism shortly after being
    diagnosed with cancer."

    from:
    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jack-Ruby




    You can believe that or you can believe the declassified papers that say that the CIA enlisted the Mafia to assassinate Ruby.

    Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein hung himself?

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Wed Feb 19 12:58:54 2025
    On 2/19/2025 12:36 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Feb 19 04:02:42 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:

    I'm not execting anything earthshattering. Such secrets as that tend
    to find their way to the surface.




    The papers are quit explicit. JFK relalized that the CIA had lied to him about Vietnam - there WAS no movement for a free enterprise system there. Most of Vietnam didn't care what government they had and Communism sounded better to them as it does to
    Shadow. The CIA was doing nothing more than they did all over the world in the last 70 years: start wars to profit the weapons industry. Kennedy was going to pull the US military including the military advisors out of Vietnam.

    The CIA first enlisted Cuban Castroites too kill Kennedy since they were more than pissed off from the failed Bay of Pigs invasion effort. The CIA simply told them that it was Kennedy's idea.

    Since only 45% of the public believed the Warren Commision I wouldn't sau that the newly released papers would be earthshattering.

    But RFK Jr. has said MANY times that Sirhan Sirhan did NOT kill his father - that like all fools with a gun he missed with every shot and his father was killed (Remember, at the time RFK was attorney General who could open a case about his brother's
    assassination.) by being shot in the back at close range. It is EASY to tell the exact range since anything closer than 10 feet leaves unmistakeable traces. In RFK's case the gun was pressed into his back. The details are too ugly to describe,

    It also appears that the CIA was involved in the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King. Why that SOB was preaching PEACE. The CIA couldn't have that. Even when I was in Guam, the CIA was running drugs out of Laos using military aircraft that they
    would park far away from our bombers. Ground crews would tell us what was going on.

    Yes, most people agree that Sirhan, wrestled by aides in
    front of Mr Kennedy, could not have shot RFK in the back of
    his head.

    Yes, most people are suspect regarding Mr Oswald as a 'lone
    assassin'.

    But on the cusp of actually reading original documents IMHO
    this is a time for patience not further hypotheses.

    YMMV as always.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Wed Feb 19 13:05:20 2025
    On 2/19/2025 12:46 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Feb 19 12:21:38 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    " Ruby died from a pulmonary embolism shortly after being
    diagnosed with cancer."

    from:
    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jack-Ruby




    You can believe that or you can believe the declassified papers that say that the CIA enlisted the Mafia to assassinate Ruby.

    Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein hung himself?

    No one believes Epstein hanged himself.

    There's no conflict in believing that Mr Ruby was contracted
    for the Oswald hit by his mob patron Carlos Marcella, by
    Hoffa fixer Robert Baker, by the CIA or some combination
    thereof and also believing he died of complications of lung
    cancer in prison.

    At any rate, I'm happy to wait for however long this fresh
    disclosure process takes. Disclosure is well overdue.


    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Wed Feb 19 14:45:28 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:05:20 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/19/2025 12:46 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Feb 19 12:21:38 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    " Ruby died from a pulmonary embolism shortly after being
    diagnosed with cancer."

    from:
    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jack-Ruby




    You can believe that or you can believe the declassified papers that say that the CIA enlisted the Mafia to assassinate Ruby.

    Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein hung himself?

    No one believes Epstein hanged himself.

    There's no conflict in believing that Mr Ruby was contracted
    for the Oswald hit by his mob patron Carlos Marcella, by
    Hoffa fixer Robert Baker, by the CIA or some combination
    thereof and also believing he died of complications of lung
    cancer in prison.

    At any rate, I'm happy to wait for however long this fresh
    disclosure process takes. Disclosure is well overdue.

    No doubt there were mistakes made and lies told, but all those
    involved are either dead or wearing diapers, so I'm not going to
    bother with it. No doubt I'll still be exposed to more of than I want.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 19:17:42 2025
    On Tue Feb 18 14:26:43 2025 Shadow wrote:

    Kennedy autopsy report released to the public 27th December
    2009


    <https://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/kennedy,%20john_report.pdf>

    (use wget or curl with appropriate command line to retrieve
    date document was released)

    Authorized by your favorite President, his Highness and
    Excellency Barack Obama, the one with the record Stock Exchange gains.

    The photos were released by his Highness and Excellency
    President Biden:

    <https://ia801207.us.archive.org/zip_dir.php?path=/33/items/Kennedy_autopsy_gallery.zip>

    Again, check the date (2024 - wget won't work).

    If your anti-virus is blocking the Internet again, you'll just
    have to trust me on this.

    You're too old to be taken in by con men like Trump. Act your
    age.

    which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied.

    LOL. So now you invented autopsies?




    Frankly, I wouldn't trust you with a nickel. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=youtube+jfk&atb=v366-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-8DGv6KSBZI

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 17:30:38 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:01:52 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    JFK autopsy results showed a basebsll sized hole in the back of his head

    Where exactly does it say that in the autopsy?

    You can send me links. I have no use for anti-viruses(which
    are really spyware).
    TIA

    Who was sitting directly in front of Kennedy and was also hit
    by the SAME shot(s)? Less seriously, because the bullets had lost most
    of their energy.
    Just wondering.
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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 20 12:05:16 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:36:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Most of Vietnam didn't care what government they had and Communism sounded better to them as it does to Shadow.

    I hate communism as much as I hate far-right governments like
    the US's repuglican and "democrat" offerings.
    I'm a "in the center". The government should own and run all
    public infrastructure and private enterprise should own anything that
    cannot be monopolized.
    But I don't expect you to understand what I wrote, the same
    way you don't understand that if your shares yielded 30,000% profit
    and you ended up with only 1.1 million in your name, you must have
    been as poor as a church mouse before.... I almost felt sorry for you.

    PS What is the connection between Vietnam and the "real"
    autopsy results you say Trump released? I'm still waiting ....
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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 20 12:09:50 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:17:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue Feb 18 14:26:43 2025 Shadow wrote:

    Kennedy autopsy report released to the public 27th December
    2009


    <https://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/kennedy,%20john_report.pdf>

    (use wget or curl with appropriate command line to retrieve
    date document was released)

    Authorized by your favorite President, his Highness and
    Excellency Barack Obama, the one with the record Stock Exchange gains.

    The photos were released by his Highness and Excellency
    President Biden:

    <https://ia801207.us.archive.org/zip_dir.php?path=/33/items/Kennedy_autopsy_gallery.zip>

    Again, check the date (2024 - wget won't work).

    If your anti-virus is blocking the Internet again, you'll just
    have to trust me on this.

    You're too old to be taken in by con men like Trump. Act your
    age.

    which shows that the Warren Commission flat out lied.

    LOL. So now you invented autopsies?




    Frankly, I wouldn't trust you with a nickel.

    You don't have a nickel to trust me with.
    Links? Not to a search engine, or a video. A link to a
    document you say trump released which proves all the others were
    forgeries.
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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 24 12:43:39 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:01:52 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    By the way Liebermann, yesterday I got another tax
    information from Stel: I just made another %30,000 profit on another
    sale of stock. That puts me over $1.1 Million.


    Liar

    Ever since I started posting in this forum in 2019, tommy has claimed to
    have $1M in investments, and makes claims that he has monthly returns of anywhere between $10K to $14K. If we split the difference this gives him
    a rather astonishing annual return of 14.4%.

    We also know that tommy claims he's saving the money, implying that he's actually re-investing the money.

    Let's do some quick math:

    Starting with a $1M investment in 2019, an annual return of 14%, and reinvesting the growth yields, tommy _should_ have over $3M by now.

    Even if he wasn't re-investing and moving the interest into a more
    modest financial storage tool, he'd have over $2M

    So, either he's lying, or...tommy, is your wife stealing your
    money....AGAIN?





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