Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Interesting. There's much going on under the fire and smoke that
hasn't been made public.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 2/21/2025 2:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/21/2025 12:59 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/
the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Interesting. There's much going on under the fire and smoke that
hasn't been made public.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
+1
Not the first time I've noted here that we're a large nation and we have
one of everything; good, bad, ugly and a few saints.
It's amazing that now some American conservatives portray Putin as a
good guy, Russia as an admirable country, communism as a good system,
Ukraine as nonexistent. 1960s Republicans must be rolling in their graves.
On 2/22/2025 9:42 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Feb 22 08:21:38 2025 John B. wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:38:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2/21/2025 7:27 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Would that be like the "Americans" that ran away to Canada to avoid
serving in the military?
I'd say there's a difference between guys who run away to avoid fighting >>>> in a war they detest, and guys like the one above who actively work as >>>> spies for the enemy.
I see... citizens in the U.S. have the right to ignore anything the
government does if they don't agree with it?
An interesting theory... does that include not paying taxes that they
don't agree with? Or ignoring any law that they don't agree with?
But that aside, has Moscow become an enemy, as the title of the
article seems to indicate?
Woithout Russia we would have lost WW II and Frank would be happily speaking German now.
More the other way around. Without US arms, materiel
support, logistics, oil and food the Soviets were f**ked.
On Sat Feb 22 08:21:38 2025 John B. wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:38:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2/21/2025 7:27 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Would that be like the "Americans" that ran away to Canada to avoid
serving in the military?
I'd say there's a difference between guys who run away to avoid fighting >>> in a war they detest, and guys like the one above who actively work as
spies for the enemy.
I see... citizens in the U.S. have the right to ignore anything the
government does if they don't agree with it?
An interesting theory... does that include not paying taxes that they
don't agree with? Or ignoring any law that they don't agree with?
But that aside, has Moscow become an enemy, as the title of the
article seems to indicate?
Woithout Russia we would have lost WW II and Frank would be happily speaking German now.
On 2/22/2025 11:15 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 10:38:07 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 2/22/2025 9:42 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Feb 22 08:21:38 2025 John B. wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:38:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2/21/2025 7:27 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Would that be like the "Americans" that ran away to Canada to avoid >>>>>>> serving in the military?
I'd say there's a difference between guys who run away to avoid fighting >>>>>> in a war they detest, and guys like the one above who actively work as >>>>>> spies for the enemy.
I see... citizens in the U.S. have the right to ignore anything the
government does if they don't agree with it?
An interesting theory... does that include not paying taxes that they >>>>> don't agree with? Or ignoring any law that they don't agree with?
But that aside, has Moscow become an enemy, as the title of the
article seems to indicate?
Woithout Russia we would have lost WW II and Frank would be happily speaking German now.
More the other way around. Without US arms, materiel
support, logistics, oil and food the Soviets were f**ked.
Not just Russia, but Europe too.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Well, yes but we didn't shed US soldiers' blood on the
Eastern Front.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 10:38:07 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 2/22/2025 9:42 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Feb 22 08:21:38 2025 John B. wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:38:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2/21/2025 7:27 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Would that be like the "Americans" that ran away to Canada to avoid >>>>>> serving in the military?
I'd say there's a difference between guys who run away to avoid fighting >>>>> in a war they detest, and guys like the one above who actively work as >>>>> spies for the enemy.
I see... citizens in the U.S. have the right to ignore anything the
government does if they don't agree with it?
An interesting theory... does that include not paying taxes that they
don't agree with? Or ignoring any law that they don't agree with?
But that aside, has Moscow become an enemy, as the title of the
article seems to indicate?
Woithout Russia we would have lost WW II and Frank would be happily speaking German now.
More the other way around. Without US arms, materiel
support, logistics, oil and food the Soviets were f**ked.
Not just Russia, but Europe too.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On Fri Feb 21 13:59:32 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Interesting. There's much going on under the fire and smoke that
hasn't been made public.
Oddly enough it was the Ukrainians that started the war by killing Russians that had legally bought farms in the Ukraine mostly out of pure hatred for anything Russia. While surely the Russians over the years earned that hatred, Putin warned theUkrainians severeal times to stop murdering ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.
But there are too many people that see the Ukraine as a way to wear Russia'a constant threat to Europe down to a manageable siae.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:31:21 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Feb 21 13:59:32 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Interesting. There's much going on under the fire and smoke that
hasn't been made public.
Oddly enough it was the Ukrainians that started the war by killing
Russians that had legally bought farms in the Ukraine mostly out of pure
hatred for anything Russia. While surely the Russians over the years
earned that hatred, Putin warned the Ukrainians severeal times to stop
murdering ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.
But there are too many people that see the Ukraine as a way to wear
Russia'a constant threat to Europe down to a manageable siae.
Wasn the Ukraine actually a part of the USSR at one time?
--
cheers,
John B.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:31:21 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Ukrainians severeal times to stop murdering ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.
wrote:
On Fri Feb 21 13:59:32 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Interesting. There's much going on under the fire and smoke that
hasn't been made public.
Oddly enough it was the Ukrainians that started the war by killing Russians that had legally bought farms in the Ukraine mostly out of pure hatred for anything Russia. While surely the Russians over the years earned that hatred, Putin warned the
But there are too many people that see the Ukraine as a way to wear Russia'a constant threat to Europe down to a manageable siae.
Wasn the Ukraine actually a part of the USSR at one time?
John B. <jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:31:21 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Feb 21 13:59:32 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Interesting. There's much going on under the fire and smoke that
hasn't been made public.
Oddly enough it was the Ukrainians that started the war by killing
Russians that had legally bought farms in the Ukraine mostly out of pure >>> hatred for anything Russia. While surely the Russians over the years
earned that hatred, Putin warned the Ukrainians severeal times to stop
murdering ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.
But there are too many people that see the Ukraine as a way to wear
Russia'a constant threat to Europe down to a manageable siae.
Wasn the Ukraine actually a part of the USSR at one time?
Yes and was used for retirement and so on, plus access to the Black Sea
even if Turkey controls access.
Roger Merriman
--
cheers,
John B.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:31:21 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Ukrainians severeal times to stop murdering ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.
wrote:
On Fri Feb 21 13:59:32 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Interesting. There's much going on under the fire and smoke that
hasn't been made public.
Oddly enough it was the Ukrainians that started the war by killing Russians that had legally bought farms in the Ukraine mostly out of pure hatred for anything Russia. While surely the Russians over the years earned that hatred, Putin warned the
But there are too many people that see the Ukraine as a way to wear Russia'a constant threat to Europe down to a manageable siae.
Wasn the Ukraine actually a part of the USSR at one time?
--
cheers,
John B.
On 1 Aug 2025 04:27:56 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:31:21 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Feb 21 13:59:32 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:09:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
Missionary, zealot, turncoat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/the-american-who-went-undercover-in-ukraine-for-moscow/ar-AA1zp7Jj
Interesting. There's much going on under the fire and smoke that
hasn't been made public.
Oddly enough it was the Ukrainians that started the war by killing
Russians that had legally bought farms in the Ukraine mostly out of pure >>>> hatred for anything Russia. While surely the Russians over the years
earned that hatred, Putin warned the Ukrainians severeal times to stop >>>> murdering ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.
But there are too many people that see the Ukraine as a way to wear
Russia'a constant threat to Europe down to a manageable siae.
Wasn the Ukraine actually a part of the USSR at one time?
Yes and was used for retirement and so on, plus access to the Black Sea
even if Turkey controls access.
Roger Merriman
--
cheers,
John B.
LOts of animosity between Ukraine and Russia. Stalin confiscated
Ukrainian food and starved millions of Ukrainians when they refused to
follow his communist plans.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
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