• Re: Cataract surgery today

    From zen cycle@21:1/5 to Mark J cleary on Sat Mar 1 08:46:58 2025
    On 2/28/2025 2:41 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Went in at 6:40 and home by 8:30. Not bad even my usual white coat blood pressure jump was no bad. Wow what a difference everything is really
    bright and of course my eye still dilated. No paid or redness but a
    sensation of sand when I blink. I can already tell it has better
    distance acuity than the right eye. I go back in two weeks for the right
    eye. Drlet said was ok to ride bike I did the trainer today. Crazy windy stuff today don't need that. Some simmering of light in eye.

    What are the working out restrictions?

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  • From Mark J cleary@21:1/5 to zen cycle on Sat Mar 1 16:17:27 2025
    On 3/1/2025 7:46 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/28/2025 2:41 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Went in at 6:40 and home by 8:30. Not bad even my usual white coat
    blood pressure jump was no bad. Wow what a difference everything is
    really bright and of course my eye still dilated. No paid or redness
    but a sensation of sand when I blink. I can already tell it has better
    distance acuity than the right eye. I go back in two weeks for the
    right eye. Drlet said was ok to ride bike I did the trainer today.
    Crazy windy stuff today don't need that. Some simmering of light in eye.

    What are the working out restrictions?
    Dr said to wait a week before riding outside I can live with that my
    vision right now is quite good. Amazing. So inside to ride or walk on
    treadmill too.

    --
    Deacon Mark

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  • From Mark J cleary@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 28 13:41:18 2025
    Went in at 6:40 and home by 8:30. Not bad even my usual white coat blood pressure jump was no bad. Wow what a difference everything is really
    bright and of course my eye still dilated. No paid or redness but a
    sensation of sand when I blink. I can already tell it has better
    distance acuity than the right eye. I go back in two weeks for the right
    eye. Drlet said was ok to ride bike I did the trainer today. Crazy windy
    stuff today don't need that. Some simmering of light in eye.
    --
    Deacon Mark

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to Mark J cleary on Mon Mar 3 10:47:30 2025
    On 3/1/2025 5:17 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 3/1/2025 7:46 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/28/2025 2:41 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Went in at 6:40 and home by 8:30. Not bad even my usual white coat
    blood pressure jump was no bad. Wow what a difference everything is
    really bright and of course my eye still dilated. No paid or redness
    but a sensation of sand when I blink. I can already tell it has
    better distance acuity than the right eye. I go back in two weeks for
    the right eye. Drlet said was ok to ride bike I did the trainer
    today. Crazy windy stuff today don't need that. Some simmering of
    light in eye.

    What are the working out restrictions?
    Dr said to wait a week before riding outside I can live with that my
    vision right now is quite good. Amazing. So inside to ride or walk on treadmill too.


    SO, just to avoid getting any irritant in the eyes?

    I was wondering if there were any issues with getting blood pressure up
    with a work out after eye surgery.

    Several years ago I had MOHS surgery on my forearm, the dr said no
    working out for two weeks (yes, two weeks). She said the increased blood
    flow through the area could cause the still-healing sub-cutaneous
    incision to bleed internally. Obviously excising a squamous cell
    carcinoma isn't the same as cataract surgery, but hey, I'm not a dr.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 3 16:15:36 2025
    On Sat Mar 1 16:17:27 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:

    Dr said to wait a week before riding outside I can live with that my
    vision right now is quite good. Amazing. So inside to ride or walk on treadmill too.




    You should probably wait until you heal before working out after any surgery but espeacially anything that would raise blood pressure in your eyes. The eyes heal remarkably fast so it isn't like you lose more than a week.

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  • From Mark J cleary@21:1/5 to Zen Cycle on Mon Mar 3 11:24:17 2025
    On 3/3/2025 9:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 3/1/2025 5:17 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 3/1/2025 7:46 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/28/2025 2:41 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Went in at 6:40 and home by 8:30. Not bad even my usual white coat
    blood pressure jump was no bad. Wow what a difference everything is
    really bright and of course my eye still dilated. No paid or redness
    but a sensation of sand when I blink. I can already tell it has
    better distance acuity than the right eye. I go back in two weeks
    for the right eye. Drlet said was ok to ride bike I did the trainer
    today. Crazy windy stuff today don't need that. Some simmering of
    light in eye.

    What are the working out restrictions?
    Dr said to wait a week before riding outside I can live with that my
    vision right now is quite good. Amazing. So inside to ride or walk on
    treadmill too.


    SO, just to avoid getting any irritant in the eyes?

    I was wondering if there were any issues with getting blood pressure up
    with a work out after eye surgery.

    Several years ago I had MOHS surgery on my forearm, the dr said no
    working out for two weeks (yes, two weeks). She said the increased blood
    flow through the area could cause the still-healing sub-cutaneous
    incision to bleed internally. Obviously excising a squamous cell
    carcinoma isn't the same as cataract surgery, but hey, I'm not a dr.

    I rode inside about 6 hours after surgery dr said was ok. Just no
    lifting of things 20 pounds or more. That makes sense although I just
    remember I brought my guitar in the case upstairs that probably does way
    over 20 pounds. Blood pressure is one thing but also your eye pressure
    which is completely separate issue and has nothing to do with blood
    pressure I ask the retina doctor this question 7 months ago. My eye
    pressure was 14 on Saturday morning they did the official 24 hour check
    on the eye. Said everything look good healing fine. I have some dryness
    and just use eye drops preservative free and they are not cheap $14 for
    a small bottle. Critical is your eye pressure should be betwen 10-20 on
    the scale. Mine has always been normal and usually on the lower end at
    10. Getting about 27 for a length of time suggest issues of glaucoma.
    Although surgery and inflammation can temporarily spike the number.
    Compared to the gas bubble and retina surgery this was easy.

    --
    Deacon Mark

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 3 11:43:18 2025
    On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 10:47:30 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    I was wondering if there were any issues with getting blood pressure up
    with a work out after eye surgery.

    Yes. There are numerous articles found on the web indicating that
    exercise that raises the blood pressure is a bad idea after cataract
    surgery. For example:

    <https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/safe-exercise-driving-cataract-surgery-recovery>
    "During first 48 hours after surgery, it's important not to bend over
    or put your head below your waist. This can increase eye pressure and
    interfere with healing. Also, be as gentle as possible when sneezing
    or coughing."

    "Most people can do very light exercise the day after surgery,
    including walking. For activities like biking, running, tennis, golf
    and sex, wait 7 to 10 days after your procedure."

    "During the first 24 hours, the small incision begins to close and the
    surface of the eye seals shut. But the smooth barrier underneath the
    eye's surface can take another few weeks to fully heal."

    I talked with someone in the ophthalmology waiting room to pass the
    time. He was there for an inspection and possible repeat surgery. The
    lens in one eye had fallen out of place because he had jumped off
    something and hit the ground hard.

    I was also warned not to touch, rub or wash my eyes for at least a
    week. I didn't quite follow those instructions but did make an effort
    not to comply.

    May I suggest you do some online reading about what to do (and what
    not to do) after surgery? <https://www.google.com/search?q=exercise+after+cataract+surgery+blood+pressure>

    You also mentioned:
    "Dr said to wait a week before riding outside I can live with that my
    vision right now is quite good. Amazing. So inside to ride or walk on
    treadmill too."

    I don't understand what you mean by "So inside to ride or walk on
    treadmill too." Does that mean you're going ride your bicycle inside
    your house and use the treadmill? I suggest you NOT do those
    exercises.

    Recovery might take more than a week. If your procedure was similar
    to mine, you will be going in for an inspection fairly soon. They
    should see if everything is where it belongs. Ask the staff or
    ophthalmologist what you can and cannot do. I received several pages
    of written instructions. If you also have those, read them again.

    Good luck, get well, and please don't rush things.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Mark J cleary@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Mon Mar 3 20:02:24 2025
    On 3/3/2025 1:43 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 10:47:30 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    I was wondering if there were any issues with getting blood pressure up
    with a work out after eye surgery.

    Yes. There are numerous articles found on the web indicating that
    exercise that raises the blood pressure is a bad idea after cataract
    surgery. For example:

    <https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/safe-exercise-driving-cataract-surgery-recovery>
    "During first 48 hours after surgery, it's important not to bend over
    or put your head below your waist. This can increase eye pressure and interfere with healing. Also, be as gentle as possible when sneezing
    or coughing."

    "Most people can do very light exercise the day after surgery,
    including walking. For activities like biking, running, tennis, golf
    and sex, wait 7 to 10 days after your procedure."

    "During the first 24 hours, the small incision begins to close and the surface of the eye seals shut. But the smooth barrier underneath the
    eye's surface can take another few weeks to fully heal."

    I talked with someone in the ophthalmology waiting room to pass the
    time. He was there for an inspection and possible repeat surgery. The
    lens in one eye had fallen out of place because he had jumped off
    something and hit the ground hard.

    I was also warned not to touch, rub or wash my eyes for at least a
    week. I didn't quite follow those instructions but did make an effort
    not to comply.

    May I suggest you do some online reading about what to do (and what
    not to do) after surgery? <https://www.google.com/search?q=exercise+after+cataract+surgery+blood+pressure>

    You also mentioned:
    "Dr said to wait a week before riding outside I can live with that my
    vision right now is quite good. Amazing. So inside to ride or walk on treadmill too."

    I don't understand what you mean by "So inside to ride or walk on
    treadmill too." Does that mean you're going ride your bicycle inside
    your house and use the treadmill? I suggest you NOT do those
    exercises.

    Recovery might take more than a week. If your procedure was similar
    to mine, you will be going in for an inspection fairly soon. They
    should see if everything is where it belongs. Ask the staff or ophthalmologist what you can and cannot do. I received several pages
    of written instructions. If you also have those, read them again.

    Good luck, get well, and please don't rush things.


    I ask the ophthalmologist what I can do I explained this in previous
    post. He said I could walk. I could ride my bike inside which of course
    means the indoor trainer. He told me to wait a week to ride outside. I
    am not supposed to lift more than 20 pounds. Not lifting anything but I
    do admit I put my guitar upstairs and in case it weighs more than 20
    pounds never thought about it.

    Had surgery on Friday at 7am. Went back for 24 hour post follow up at
    his office. He looked at eye said was healing and doing ok. They did
    have me read the chart to see where eyesight was. I could read the 20/25
    line and make out the 20/20. Dr said my eye a little dry makes sure to
    use the Refresh tears a lot and probably if not dry I could read the
    20.20 line. I can read the small caution label on the Utility Box in my backyard from the house. I have live here 22 years and never seen it
    quite that clear or be able to read it.

    I am not at all touching or rubbing my eye in anyway. I pat it dry after
    shower and no soap or anything in the eye. I had retinal detachment and
    gas bubble in my eye and that was way more complicated that this. I am
    though wanting to be as careful as possible no bending or straining.
    Head up and forward and praying it heals.

    --
    Deacon Mark

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to mcleary08@comcast.net on Mon Mar 3 22:01:10 2025
    On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 20:02:24 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 3/3/2025 1:43 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 10:47:30 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    I was wondering if there were any issues with getting blood pressure up
    with a work out after eye surgery.

    Yes. There are numerous articles found on the web indicating that
    exercise that raises the blood pressure is a bad idea after cataract
    surgery. For example:

    <https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/safe-exercise-driving-cataract-surgery-recovery>
    "During first 48 hours after surgery, it's important not to bend over
    or put your head below your waist. This can increase eye pressure and
    interfere with healing. Also, be as gentle as possible when sneezing
    or coughing."

    "Most people can do very light exercise the day after surgery,
    including walking. For activities like biking, running, tennis, golf
    and sex, wait 7 to 10 days after your procedure."

    "During the first 24 hours, the small incision begins to close and the
    surface of the eye seals shut. But the smooth barrier underneath the
    eye's surface can take another few weeks to fully heal."

    I talked with someone in the ophthalmology waiting room to pass the
    time. He was there for an inspection and possible repeat surgery. The
    lens in one eye had fallen out of place because he had jumped off
    something and hit the ground hard.

    I was also warned not to touch, rub or wash my eyes for at least a
    week. I didn't quite follow those instructions but did make an effort
    not to comply.

    May I suggest you do some online reading about what to do (and what
    not to do) after surgery?
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=exercise+after+cataract+surgery+blood+pressure>

    You also mentioned:
    "Dr said to wait a week before riding outside I can live with that my
    vision right now is quite good. Amazing. So inside to ride or walk on
    treadmill too."

    I don't understand what you mean by "So inside to ride or walk on
    treadmill too." Does that mean you're going ride your bicycle inside
    your house and use the treadmill? I suggest you NOT do those
    exercises.

    Recovery might take more than a week. If your procedure was similar
    to mine, you will be going in for an inspection fairly soon. They
    should see if everything is where it belongs. Ask the staff or
    ophthalmologist what you can and cannot do. I received several pages
    of written instructions. If you also have those, read them again.

    Good luck, get well, and please don't rush things.


    I ask the ophthalmologist what I can do I explained this in previous
    post.

    Oops. I replied to your first message before I read your 2nd message.
    I should have read ahead to see if you had additional comments.
    Sorry(tm).

    He said I could walk. I could ride my bike inside which of course
    means the indoor trainer. He told me to wait a week to ride outside. I
    am not supposed to lift more than 20 pounds. Not lifting anything but I
    do admit I put my guitar upstairs and in case it weighs more than 20
    pounds never thought about it.

    Ok, that makes sense. I was limited to 10 pounds for the first few
    days and 20 pounds for 2 weeks until after the 2nd eye surgery. That
    was a problem for me because it was mid winter (Jan 2024) and I was
    carrying approximately three 30 lb loads of firewood up my 50 stairs
    every day. That definitely would have raised my blood pressure. So,
    I hired some of the local talent to drag a few weeks of firewood up
    the hill for me.

    Had surgery on Friday at 7am. Went back for 24 hour post follow up at
    his office.

    On a weekend? Locally, most of the non-emergency medical offices are
    closed on weekends.

    He looked at eye said was healing and doing ok.

    Great. You still have to survive about a month of eye drops. I had
    problems getting the drops into the eye. I finally figured out how to
    do it properly a few days before the end.

    They did
    have me read the chart to see where eyesight was. I could read the 20/25
    line and make out the 20/20.

    Very good.

    Dr said my eye a little dry makes sure to
    use the Refresh tears a lot and probably if not dry I could read the
    20.20 line.

    Due to astigmatism, I couldn't get to 20/20 in one eye (I forgot which
    eye). One of the drops is an anti-inflammatory (Ketorolac). After
    surgery, the internal pressure in the eyeball increases. That's
    normal. However, they don't want the pressure to increase too much. I
    didn't ask what happens if it goes too high. I didn't want to know,
    so I just followed the instructions.

    I can read the small caution label on the Utility Box in my
    backyard from the house. I have live here 22 years and never seen it
    quite that clear or be able to read it.

    I was testing my vision with a Snellen eye chart in my kitchen and by
    using street and road signs while driving. Cataract surgery was a
    huge improvement in my vision.

    I am not at all touching or rubbing my eye in anyway. I pat it dry after >shower and no soap or anything in the eye.

    Same with me. I also wore a patch over one or both eyes at night, so
    I wouldn't try to rub my eyes while sleeping or dreaming.

    I had retinal detachment and
    gas bubble in my eye and that was way more complicated that this. I am
    though wanting to be as careful as possible no bending or straining.
    Head up and forward and praying it heals.

    Very good. Better to live for a while with a few inconveniences than
    to risk ruining the surgeon's handiwork. May your outcome be
    favorable and without complications.


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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