Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost allof the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.This is a common problem if I understand it correct from you. The travel
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if theseThis is a common problem if I understand it correct from you. The travel
are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump"
the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
of the brake levers hits the bars before the pads fully engage or stop.
The first thing to do is take of the bleed nipple in the shifter and
pump it lightly with the wheel in lace. You likely have air in the
system that is not fully out. Just pump a little at a time no all the
way down to allow air to come up out of the top. Might need to do it
twice. It can be that you need to even add bit of fluid to the brakes
but see how this goes and report back.
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost allof the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
On 3/4/25 2:29 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if theseThis is a common problem if I understand it correct from you. The travel
are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump"
the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
of the brake levers hits the bars before the pads fully engage or stop.
The first thing to do is take of the bleed nipple in the shifter and
pump it lightly with the wheel in lace. You likely have air in the
system that is not fully out. Just pump a little at a time no all the
way down to allow air to come up out of the top. Might need to do it
twice. It can be that you need to even add bit of fluid to the brakes
but see how this goes and report back.
Tom, look at the brake pads closely while pulling the handle very
slowly. If they travel the whole time while pulling they might be incompatible. But that would be really odd.
If they engage the rotor and stop there but you can pull the handle
farther without the pads moving, that indicates air in the system like
Mark said. Very dangerous and it needs to be bled off.
When the pads hit the rotor there should instantly be a hard-stop
feeling in the brake lever. There should also never be a need to "pump"
bike disc brakes except during the bleeding process.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:all of the way to the bar.
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
Shimano says yes, compatible. See page C-499 here:
https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf
On Tue Mar 4 23:43:26 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these
are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump"
the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
Shimano says yes, compatible. See page C-499 here:
https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf
That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the
actuators are the same compatibilitywise.
On Tue Mar 4 23:43:26 2025 AMuzi wrote:all of the way to the bar.
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
Shimano says yes, compatible. See page C-499 here:
https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf
That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the actuators are the same compatibilitywise.
On 3/5/2025 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:all of the way to the bar.
On Tue Mar 4 23:43:26 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
Shimano says yes, compatible. See page C-499 here:
https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf
That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the actuators are the same compatibilitywise.
They are not.
Changing a flat bar Deore disc bike to road levers means new
calipers, for example.
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
On Wed Mar 5 14:03:27 2025 AMuzi wrote:all of the way to the bar.
On 3/5/2025 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 23:43:26 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost
Shimano says yes, compatible. See page C-499 here:
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>
https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf
That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the actuators are the same compatibilitywise.
They are not.
Changing a flat bar Deore disc bike to road levers means new
calipers, for example.
It showed that the GRX gravel 10 speed was compatible with the Ultegra 11 speed actuator.Should I have looked deeper?
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are >>> not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" theShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no >>> pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to me in a dream. But since they are compatible it must be air in the system. The thing that bothers me is that allof my previous disk bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a problem.
On 3/5/2025 2:08 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Mar 5 14:03:27 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/5/2025 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 23:43:26 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShimano says yes, compatible. See page C-499 here:
these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not >>>>>> "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they
actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>
https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf
That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the
actuators are the same compatibilitywise.
They are not.
Changing a flat bar Deore disc bike to road levers means new
calipers, for example.
It showed that the GRX gravel 10 speed was compatible with the Ultegra
11 speed actuator.Should I have looked deeper?
Right, that's what you asked and Shimano says 'compatible'.
Then Mr Merriman suggested, "all of the actuators are the
same compatibilitywise." That's not true. The road models
as a group differ from the flat bar models as a group.
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie henges and other things!
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>>>>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>>>>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to >>>>> me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of >>> top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on >>>>> front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a >>>>> problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and >> my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or >> so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on. >>
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort.Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
On Thu Mar 6 06:04:53 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>>>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>>>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh". When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?
On Thu Mar 6 06:04:53 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>>>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>>>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>>>>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>>>>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to >>>>> me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of >>> top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on >>>>> front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a >>>>> problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and >> my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or >> so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on. >>
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down?
I had a dent in the top tube and it went away.
I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science?
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer
and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort.
Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours
and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides.
If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think.
The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
On Thu Mar 6 06:04:53 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>>>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>>>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?
On Tue Mar 4 15:49:26 2025 Joerg wrote:
On 3/4/25 2:29 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 3/4/2025 2:16 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if theseThis is a common problem if I understand it correct from you. The travel >>> of the brake levers hits the bars before the pads fully engage or stop.
are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump"
the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
The first thing to do is take of the bleed nipple in the shifter and
pump it lightly with the wheel in lace. You likely have air in the
system that is not fully out. Just pump a little at a time no all the
way down to allow air to come up out of the top. Might need to do it
twice. It can be that you need to even add bit of fluid to the brakes
but see how this goes and report back.
Tom, look at the brake pads closely while pulling the handle very
slowly. If they travel the whole time while pulling they might be
incompatible. But that would be really odd.
If they engage the rotor and stop there but you can pull the handle
farther without the pads moving, that indicates air in the system like
Mark said. Very dangerous and it needs to be bled off.
When the pads hit the rotor there should instantly be a hard-stop
feeling in the brake lever. There should also never be a need to "pump"
bike disc brakes except during the bleeding process.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Good to see you around Joerg. My suspicion is that there is still air in the system, rather than the GRX levers not having sufficient capacity for the Ultegra actuators. The Shimano manual and video showed bleeding the brakes from the bottom up but thevideo of a mechanic swhowed him bleeding the brakes from to to bottom. When I tried that method I extracted a LOT of air and the levers began working. I seemed to be drawing pure fluid but I expect that there is still air in the system to the back discs.
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how did
that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, and
bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB brakes. Only
very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always feel firm but I do
it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a surpsise brake fade. I
have seen that happen with a rider in front of me on a long downhill.
His front faded but since he was a good dirt bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide, stopping in a massive plume of
dust. And some expletives.
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, and
bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB brakes.
Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always feel firm
but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a surpsise brake
fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of me on a long
downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt bike rider he
saved the situation with a nice sideways slide, stopping in a massive
plume of dust. And some expletives.
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow what
a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson
Roger, what is doubling down?
I had a dent in the top tube and it went away.
I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science?
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort.
If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
On 3/6/2025 11:57 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 06:04:53 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as ifShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be >>>>> same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe >>>>> doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to >>>> me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of >> top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on >>>> front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a >>>> problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".
Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?
About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.
With apologies for Facebook link! ><https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".
I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.
On Thu Mar 6 12:59:48 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 11:57 AM, cyclintom wrote:
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".
Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?
About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".
You are a nobody that has never done anything and you want to criticise ME for some terminology that you haven't heard before and which makes perfect sense to normal people. I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and knowtelecommunications.
You can't even handle a QC job.
As for your comments about your two 200 mile rides - everyone on here SAW you post that stupid crap
and no one believed for one second that you could EVER do that.
All you had to do was to erase that bullshit off of your Strava account and pretend that you never said it. But we saw it and you didn't kill that fast enough for everyone to see it.
You find it odd that I changed jobs after finishing a project. That's because you haven't a clue how the electronics industry works.
I erased 150 job offers from my gmail account and no one is offering your anything. Those offers are from human resources departments and not employment agencies.
I've got a load of money in the investments and you don't have shit.
That is because I know what I'm doing and you are giving baseball scores to your so-called manager. I've got letters of recomendation from PhD's and MsEE's and you;'re giving baseball scores to your manager. Really important work there.
What's it feel like to lie about everything because you really don't have a life? After telling us that you're a racer, we discovered that you're in your mid-60's.
After telling us the importance of your job
you're nothing more than a QC manager.
And even that is questionable
since you're on this group and return postings within seconds in answer to other postings.
You tell us that you're watching baseball on your computer and your boss asks you what the score is!
The score is that you're a liar about everything.
I doubt very much that you even have a degree.
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 23:28:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".
Nope. Sonic named their fiber optic cable service "Sonic Fiber
Internet". It's been like that for many years:
<https://www.sonic.com>
Since AT&T pulled the plug on all the companies selling DSL, ISDN, etc service using AT&T copper, Sonic has been selling 10 Gbits/sec as
"Standard Fiber 10 Gigabit". If you add telephone service, it becomes "Fusion Fiber 10 Gibabit". I took the liberty of checking if Sonic
Fiber Internet is available at your house. It's available. $60/month including phone, but not including taxes.
Incidentally, searching their site for "light lines" does not produce anything even close. Try it yourself: <https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fsonic.com%20light%20line>
I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.
I'll assume that the "know" is a typo mistake. Google could find
anything in the "Hawk Telephone and telecommunications". For that
matter, searching for "Telephone and Telcommunications also failed,
probably because that's a really dumb name for a company. Telephone
is a sub-set of Telecommunications. Telecommunications by itself
would have been adequate. Incidentally, Hawk is not on your online
resume:
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
However, I did find something close, in Camden, New South Wales. <https://hawk.tel>
I didn't know you provided phone service in England.
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.
Can't stand to read the truth, so you add your graffiti to the tail
end? Anyway, it seems you're now able to successfully read URL's that
I post without having your Aunti-Virus program protect you from the
dire consequences of reading the truth. Congratulation, whatever you
did to fix it.
On 3/6/25 1:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson
Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>>>>
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't >>>>>>> have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to >>>>>>> me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of >>>>> top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk >>>>>>> bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on >>>>>>> front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a >>>>>>> problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front >>>>>> points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the >>>>>> lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a >>>>>> tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather >>>> don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes >>>> it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and >>>> my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or >>>> so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has >>>> made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on. >>>>
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is >>>> old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did >>>> nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s >>>> packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie >>>> henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>>
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't >>>>> have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to >>>>> me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of >>> top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on >>>>> front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a >>>>> problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front >>>> points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a >>>> tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather >> don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes >> it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and >> my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or >> so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on. >>
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is >> old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did >> nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s >> packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie >> henges and other things!
Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to askRoger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 23:28:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".
Nope. Sonic named their fiber optic cable service "Sonic Fiber
Internet". It's been like that for many years:
<https://www.sonic.com>
Since AT&T pulled the plug on all the companies selling DSL, ISDN, etc service using AT&T copper, Sonic has been selling 10 Gbits/sec as
"Standard Fiber 10 Gigabit". If you add telephone service, it becomes "Fusion Fiber 10 Gibabit". I took the liberty of checking if Sonic
Fiber Internet is available at your house. It's available. $60/month including phone, but not including taxes.
Incidentally, searching their site for "light lines" does not produce anything even close. Try it yourself: <https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fsonic.com%20light%20line>
I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.
I'll assume that the "know" is a typo mistake. Google could find
anything in the "Hawk Telephone and telecommunications". For that
matter, searching for "Telephone and Telcommunications also failed,
probably because that's a really dumb name for a company. Telephone
is a sub-set of Telecommunications. Telecommunications by itself
would have been adequate. Incidentally, Hawk is not on your online
resume:
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
However, I did find something close, in Camden, New South Wales. <https://hawk.tel>
I didn't know you provided phone service in England.
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.
Can't stand to read the truth, so you add your graffiti to the tail
end? Anyway, it seems you're now able to successfully read URL's that
I post without having your Aunti-Virus program protect you from the
dire consequences of reading the truth. Congratulation, whatever you
did to fix it.
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the >>>>>>>>> brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections. >>>>>>>>>
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't >>>>>>> have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to >>>>>>> me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of >>>>> top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk >>>>>>> bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on >>>>>>> front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a >>>>>>> problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front >>>>>> points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the >>>>>> lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a >>>>>> tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather >>>> don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes >>>> it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and >>>> my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or >>>> so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has >>>> made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on. >>>>
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is >>>> old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did >>>> nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s >>>> packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie >>>> henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?
On 3/6/2025 6:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:59:48 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 11:57 AM, cyclintom wrote:
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".
Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?
About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.
telecommunications.There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?
point out the lie.
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".
No, he didn't use the term 'light lines'.
https://www.sonic.com/
"Sonic Fiber Internet named Fastest All-Around Internet in America by PCMag.....
Our 100% wholly owned 10-Gigabit fiber network provides the fastest,
most reliable internet connection to your home,"
"Fiber home internet with no contracts."
If you can find the term 'light lines' anywhere on there website, post a
link (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed, There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?).
You are a nobody that has never done anything and you want to criticise ME for some terminology that you haven't heard before and which makes perfect sense to normal people. I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know
Which means you should know better (There's absolutely nothing that
you're not willing to lie about is there?)
You can't even handle a QC job.
It's a good thing I don't have a QC job then.
As for your comments about your two 200 mile rides - everyone on here SAW you post that stupid crap
They did? I'd love for someone besides you to show where I wrote that or posted a link to it. (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)
and no one believed for one second that you could EVER do that.
Which is fine, because I never claimed I could, and there was never any activity on my Strava account longer that 93 miles (There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)
All you had to do was to erase that bullshit off of your Strava account and pretend that you never said it. But we saw it and you didn't kill that fast enough for everyone to see it.
Again, I'd love for someone besides you to claim they saw a 200 mile
ride posted. It never happened, dumbass. Besides that, If there was ever
a 200 mile ride all the people I ride with and follow who my Strava
profile would have seen it and called bullshit (That's 75 people as of
now that I've ridden with, some for many decades). There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?
You find it odd that I changed jobs after finishing a project. That's because you haven't a clue how the electronics industry works.
Gee, that's funny since, I've been employed consistently in the
electronics industry since 1983 and didn't bounce around from job to job
due to incompetence.
I erased 150 job offers from my gmail account and no one is offering your anything. Those offers are from human resources departments and not employment agencies.
They aren't job offers, tommy. We know it, and you've never posted
anything indicating these claims were true. There's absolutely nothing
that you're not willing to lie about is there?
I've got a load of money in the investments and you don't have shit.
And yet after 5 years of allegedly having a million dollar investment,
it's still only a million (quite a return you've been getting there,
sparky!) There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about
is there?
That is because I know what I'm doing and you are giving baseball scores to your so-called manager. I've got letters of recomendation from PhD's and MsEE's and you;'re giving baseball scores to your manager. Really important work there.
Please post any reference to where I ever claimed I watch baseball, not
just at work, but anytime (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed, There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)
What's it feel like to lie about everything because you really don't have a life? After telling us that you're a racer, we discovered that you're in your mid-60's.
60 year olds aren't allowed to race?
After telling us the importance of your job
Where did I ever make such a claim?
you're nothing more than a QC manager.
No, tommy, I don't work in QC. Besides, QC managers make excellent
salaries and generally report directly to the CEO of a company. It's
hardly a position that qualifies as "nothing more".
https://www.salary.com/research/salary/listing/director-of-quality-salary/boston-ma
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?
And even that is questionable
Yes, it's highly questionable that I'm a QC manager, because I'm not
since you're on this group and return postings within seconds in answer to other postings.
sometimes....It's too bad you never had a job where your boss wasn't constantly hovering over you. I guess that pretty much shows who is/was considered to be competent by their managers.
You tell us that you're watching baseball on your computer and your boss asks you what the score is!
No matter how many rimes you tell that lie, it will never become true. There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?
The score is that you're a liar about everything.
And yet you still haven't managed to prove anything I've ever written is
a lie, or even that anything you've ever written is the truth.
I doubt very much that you even have a degree.
lol, why, because you haven't managed to prove that 'light lines' is a
term used for fiber optic telecom or that PWM is used to test cables?
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.
From what he's written, it seems he's made fine use of it.
On Fri Mar 7 06:09:53 2025 zen cycle wrote:telecommunications.
On 3/6/2025 6:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:59:48 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:point out the lie.
On 3/6/2025 11:57 AM, cyclintom wrote:
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".
Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?
About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there? >>
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".
No, he didn't use the term 'light lines'.
https://www.sonic.com/
"Sonic Fiber Internet named Fastest All-Around Internet in America by
PCMag.....
Our 100% wholly owned 10-Gigabit fiber network provides the fastest,
most reliable internet connection to your home,"
"Fiber home internet with no contracts."
If you can find the term 'light lines' anywhere on there website, post a
link (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed, There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?).
You are a nobody that has never done anything and you want to criticise ME for some terminology that you haven't heard before and which makes perfect sense to normal people. I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know
Which means you should know better (There's absolutely nothing that
you're not willing to lie about is there?)
You can't even handle a QC job.
It's a good thing I don't have a QC job then.
As for your comments about your two 200 mile rides - everyone on here SAW you post that stupid crap
They did? I'd love for someone besides you to show where I wrote that or
posted a link to it. (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?) >>
and no one believed for one second that you could EVER do that.
Which is fine, because I never claimed I could, and there was never any
activity on my Strava account longer that 93 miles (There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)
All you had to do was to erase that bullshit off of your Strava account and pretend that you never said it. But we saw it and you didn't kill that fast enough for everyone to see it.
Again, I'd love for someone besides you to claim they saw a 200 mile
ride posted. It never happened, dumbass. Besides that, If there was ever
a 200 mile ride all the people I ride with and follow who my Strava
profile would have seen it and called bullshit (That's 75 people as of
now that I've ridden with, some for many decades). There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?
You find it odd that I changed jobs after finishing a project. That's because you haven't a clue how the electronics industry works.
Gee, that's funny since, I've been employed consistently in the
electronics industry since 1983 and didn't bounce around from job to job
due to incompetence.
I erased 150 job offers from my gmail account and no one is offering your anything. Those offers are from human resources departments and not employment agencies.
They aren't job offers, tommy. We know it, and you've never posted
anything indicating these claims were true. There's absolutely nothing
that you're not willing to lie about is there?
I've got a load of money in the investments and you don't have shit.
And yet after 5 years of allegedly having a million dollar investment,
it's still only a million (quite a return you've been getting there,
sparky!) There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about
is there?
That is because I know what I'm doing and you are giving baseball scores to your so-called manager. I've got letters of recomendation from PhD's and MsEE's and you;'re giving baseball scores to your manager. Really important work there.
Please post any reference to where I ever claimed I watch baseball, not
just at work, but anytime (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?) >>
What's it feel like to lie about everything because you really don't have a life? After telling us that you're a racer, we discovered that you're in your mid-60's.
60 year olds aren't allowed to race?
After telling us the importance of your job
Where did I ever make such a claim?
you're nothing more than a QC manager.
No, tommy, I don't work in QC. Besides, QC managers make excellent
salaries and generally report directly to the CEO of a company. It's
hardly a position that qualifies as "nothing more".
https://www.salary.com/research/salary/listing/director-of-quality-salary/boston-ma
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?
And even that is questionable
Yes, it's highly questionable that I'm a QC manager, because I'm not
since you're on this group and return postings within seconds in answer to other postings.
sometimes....It's too bad you never had a job where your boss wasn't
constantly hovering over you. I guess that pretty much shows who is/was
considered to be competent by their managers.
You tell us that you're watching baseball on your computer and your boss asks you what the score is!
No matter how many rimes you tell that lie, it will never become true.
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?
The score is that you're a liar about everything.
And yet you still haven't managed to prove anything I've ever written is
a lie, or even that anything you've ever written is the truth.
I doubt very much that you even have a degree.
lol, why, because you haven't managed to prove that 'light lines' is a
term used for fiber optic telecom or that PWM is used to test cables?
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.
From what he's written, it seems he's made fine use of it.
Why haven't you made any money if QC directors make so much money?
Or is the problem your belief that you have to throw money away to prove you have it.
My wife needed some dental work so I just wrote her a check for $3,000.
On 3/7/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators.Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so
It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear
will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they
actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to
the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks
from the connections.
on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace,
though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more
simple design.
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed
GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators.
That occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas -
dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my
previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has
the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up
and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual
angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it
can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the
caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in
the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain
injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling
down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months
post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a
joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated
folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to
get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s
spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the
on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday,
glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even
the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and
bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top
tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how
that could happen and you believe it to be fake science?
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't
even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this
newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said
that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them
at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys
you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to
conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped
the ability to post and that was treated successfully
with medication. So the question arises, what has
happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent
inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back
out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible
metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?
That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons).
The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the
trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a
fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to
explain at the time!
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US),
which would
be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one
that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher
rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my
study at home. When the clocks change, I just jack up the
house and rotate it 15 degrees.
On 3/7/2025 11:19 AM, cyclintom wrote:
My wife needed some dental work so I just wrote her a check for $3,000.
Um... is that supposed to be impressive? I'd think most of us have
written checks many times bigger.
My financial report is due over the next couple of days. Should I give
you an overview?
Please do! Include your account numbers, login ID an password, please! ;-)
On 3/7/2025 9:59 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not >>>>>>>>>>> "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar. >>>>>>>>>>>
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the >>>>>>>>>>> connections.
appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is >>>>>>>>>> I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design. >>>>>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers >>>>>>>>> didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That
occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping >>>>>>> out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk >>>>>>>>> bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same >>>>>>>>> pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled
without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The >>>>>>>> front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the >>>>>>>> lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper
with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and >>>>>>>> crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or >>>>>> rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he
believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain
injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me
a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks
intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes
and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at >>>>>> moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the
(which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious
day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic
Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the
area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it
went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and
you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical
engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky
is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode
TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides.
If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive -
the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and
that was treated successfully with medication. So the question
arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so
you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would
you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just
imagining it?
That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.
True, but the principles are the same across steels as a group. The relative numbers vary from one steel alloy or temper finish to another.
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time! >>>
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, its why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels >>>> shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time! >>>>
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me >>> for a while, its why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.
"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025" ><https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
Explain why no one gave you a letter of recommendation.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels >>>> shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time! >>>>
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me >>> for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.
"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025" <https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
On 3/7/2025 12:57 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank KrygowskiI would support basing everything off 24 hr GMT. I don't see how that
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer >>>>> in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels >>>>> shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time! >>>>>
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would >>>>> be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me >>>> for a while, its why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees. >>
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
would make anything 'worse', if anything, it simplifes everything. A
zoom meeting at 1200 is 1200 everywhere, regardless if you're in Berlin >Germany or NYC. No more excuses of forgetting to account for time zones.
No more needing to base your clock setting off longitude.
While we're at it, get rid of the 24/60/60 system, base it all on tens:
Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten seconds in a minute. A
day becomes 1000 seconds long rather than 86400 seconds. We already use
base ten to divide seconds anyway, so subdividing into milli, micro,
pico, nano, and femto seconds will be nothing new, we would just use
them more often (which incidentally would help with converting globally
to the metric system). Plank time wouldn't need to change, just the >conversion to seconds:
https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels >>>> shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time! >>>>
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me >>> for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.
"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025" <https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
On 3/7/2025 12:57 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank KrygowskiI would support basing everything off 24 hr GMT. I don't see
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or
tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the
trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be
a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to
explain at the time!
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016
(US), which would
be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the
one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher
rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my
study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and
rotate it 15 degrees.
"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-
bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will
become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore
daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to
really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but
that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and
dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more
"flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is
blowing). The
bill failed to pass:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
how that would make anything 'worse', if anything, it
simplifes everything. A zoom meeting at 1200 is 1200
everywhere, regardless if you're in Berlin Germany or NYC.
No more excuses of forgetting to account for time zones. No
more needing to base your clock setting off longitude.
While we're at it, get rid of the 24/60/60 system, base it
all on tens: Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten
seconds in a minute. A day becomes 1000 seconds long rather
than 86400 seconds. We already use base ten to divide
seconds anyway, so subdividing into milli, micro, pico,
nano, and femto seconds will be nothing new, we would just
use them more often (which incidentally would help with
converting globally to the metric system). Plank time
wouldn't need to change, just the conversion to seconds:
https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt
executive director On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 14:46:27 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 11:57 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer >>>>> in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels >>>>> shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time! >>>>>
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would >>>>> be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me >>>> for a while, its why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees. >>
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
Benjamin Franklin wrote a few paragraphs in his
Autobiography about enjoying a bright warm early morning in
June while the rest of Philadelphia slept. He postulated
that rising earlier would allow better use of summer sunlight.
From that minor comment, Woodrow Wilson spun it into a
bright shining lie by decreeing DST "to save oil for the war
effort". It doesn't. Economists absolutely love natural
experiments and this is a classic. There is no savings
whatsoever.
Mr Nixon also introduced DST in midwinter 1974 by the same
false reasoning. Diligent research showed no fuel savings at
all.*
Even better, some States have at times changed by county,
leaving adjacent counties (in Indiana for example) with
similar population, economy, latitude and so on with or
without DST. There is no fuel savings.
It's just another bad idea from The Planners, IMHO. People
who rise early enjoy dawn in summer. Those who don't don't.
This is not a national policy problem IMHO.
*I had an excellent first date with a cute waitress the
evening before and had no idea DST was ordered. I dropped
her at her diner at the "wrong" 5am; an hour late. Ouch.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 5:16 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 3/6/25 1:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar >>>>> pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how >>>>> did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of >>>>> me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, Wow
what a ride! - Hunter S. Thompson
Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)
lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is >>going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"
What is a "Fire Pit"?
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 5:16 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 3/6/25 1:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar >>>>> pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how >>>>> did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of >>>>> me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson
Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)
lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"
What is a "Fire Pit"?
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 10:39:29 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 10:23 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons).
The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the
trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a
fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to
explain at the time!
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US),
which would
be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one
that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher
rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my
study at home. When the clocks change, I just jack up the
house and rotate it 15 degrees.
Thanks!
I forwarded the above to a friend who's been carping about
clock change for a week.
Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)
On 3/7/2025 8:35 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking.
I read an interesting article claiming that fire may have been critical
to evolution of humans. The claim was that cooking makes food much
easier to digest, and thus extract nutritional calories.
Since our large brains consume an outsized portion of our calories, that >cooking over fire was necessary to the evolution of large brains.
Without cooking, the theory goes, large brained proto-humans would have >starved.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC124895/
"In the average adult human, the brain represents about 2% of the body >weight. Remarkably, despite its relatively small size, the brain
accounts for about 20% of the oxygen and, hence, calories consumed by
the body."
Many variants on this general idea: >https://magzhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/abb6428a3fd1e79b74f18cf03dc2cc4c-1536x1152.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/54372087848/in/datetaken/On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 17:35:56 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Mar 2025 08:00:07 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 5:16 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 3/6/25 1:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar >>>>>> pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how >>>>>> did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the >>>>>> handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, >>>>>> and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of >>>>>> me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt >>>>>> bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, Wow
what a ride! - Hunter S. Thompson
Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)
lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is >>>going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"
What is a "Fire Pit"?
<https://www.google.com/search?q=fire%20pit&udm=2>
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking. Even though gas, electric, microwave and hot
air ovens have long ago replaced the an open fire for cooking, both
cooking and pyromania are still with us today as demonstrated by
rapidly increasing fire pit sales and wildfire statistics. ><https://www.grandviewresearch.com/horizon/outlook/fire-pits-market-size/global>
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:00:21 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 8:35 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking.
I read an interesting article claiming that fire may have been critical
to evolution of humans. The claim was that cooking makes food much
easier to digest, and thus extract nutritional calories.
Since our large brains consume an outsized portion of our calories, that >>cooking over fire was necessary to the evolution of large brains.
Without cooking, the theory goes, large brained proto-humans would have >>starved.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC124895/
"In the average adult human, the brain represents about 2% of the body >>weight. Remarkably, despite its relatively small size, the brain
accounts for about 20% of the oxygen and, hence, calories consumed by
the body."
I don't think it's 20% oxygen (by weight) but rather is 20% sugar or
glucose (by weight):
"Sugar for the brain: the role of glucose in physiological and
pathological brain function" ><https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3900881/>
Same as above except in easier to read PDF format: ><https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3900881/pdf/nihms-510105.pdf>
"In humans, the brain accounts for ~2% of the body weight, but it
consumes ~20% of glucose-derived energy making it the main consumer of >glucose (~5.6 mg glucose per 100 g human brain tissue per minute)."
"It has been suggested that action potentials have been rendered
highly efficient through evolution, and thus most of the energy
consumed in the brain is used on synaptic activity"
Also, please note that oxygen, by itself, does NOT contain calories.
"Does oxygen have a calorific value?" ><https://www.quora.com/Does-oxygen-have-a-calorific-value>
"Oxygen itself does not have a calorific value because it is not a
fuel. Calorific value refers to the amount of energy released when a >substance is burned or oxidized. Oxygen is an oxidizing agent that
supports combustion; it reacts with fuels to produce energy, but it
does not contain energy that can be released on its own."
In simpler terms, the amount of energy consumed by the brain is
proportional to the amount of smoke billowing from the ears, which
explains why thinking is best performed around a fire pit.
On 3/7/2025 7:50 PM, John B. wrote:
Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)
Around here and farther north, that would waste a lot of time during
winter.
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 7:50 PM, John B. wrote:
Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)
Around here and farther north, that would waste a lot of time during
winter.
I was going to say even London but I think I’m North of you and others but well the Gulf Stream and being a island makes it much more temperate
climate.
But yes winter makes for short days even in very south of UK, aka it’s dark on way to work and dark coming home and so on!
Clearly northern England let alone Scotland are much more so.
Roger Merriman
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 20:56:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Many variants on this general idea:
https://magzhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/abb6428a3fd1e79b74f18cf03dc2cc4c-1536x1152.jpg
Some of my neighbors have something they call a "fire pit". It
sometimes functions as a barbeque, but most commonly, it's used as an unauthorized plant debris burn pile, which avoids an expensive visit
to the county recycling yard: <https://www.google.com/search?q=slash%20pile&udm=2>
I would probably do the same thing but I have too many overhanging
tree branches, which might burn down the entire neighborhood. So, I
use my small wood chipper or borrow something larger to produce mulch.
On 3/8/2025 5:42 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 7:50 PM, John B. wrote:
Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)
Around here and farther north, that would waste a lot of time during
winter.
I was going to say even London but I think I’m North of you and others but >> well the Gulf Stream and being a island makes it much more temperate
climate.
But yes winter makes for short days even in very south of UK, aka it’s dark
on way to work and dark coming home and so on!
Clearly northern England let alone Scotland are much more so.
Roger Merriman
Your magic evenings in June are a joy. Moreso in Scotland!
On 3/7/2025 9:59 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators.Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so
It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear
will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they
actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to
the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks
from the connections.
on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace,
though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more
simple design.
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed
GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators.
That occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas -
dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my
previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has
the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up
and bled without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual
angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it
can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the
caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in
the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain
injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling
down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months
post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a
joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated
folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to
get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s
spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the
on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday,
glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even
the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and
bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top
tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how
that could happen and you believe it to be fake science?
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't
even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this
newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said
that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them
at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys
you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to
conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped
the ability to post and that was treated successfully
with medication. So the question arises, what has
happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent
inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back
out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible
metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?
That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.
True, but the principles are the same across steels as a
group. The relative numbers vary from one steel alloy or
temper finish to another.
On 3/7/2025 1:34 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:57 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank KrygowskiI would support basing everything off 24 hr GMT. I don't see how that
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer >>>>>> in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer
wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at
the time!
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would >>>>>> be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that
fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home. >>>> When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15
degrees.
"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate- bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
would make anything 'worse', if anything, it simplifes everything. A
zoom meeting at 1200 is 1200 everywhere, regardless if you're in
Berlin Germany or NYC. No more excuses of forgetting to account for
time zones. No more needing to base your clock setting off longitude.
While we're at it, get rid of the 24/60/60 system, base it all on
tens: Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten seconds in a
minute. A day becomes 1000 seconds long rather than 86400 seconds. We
already use base ten to divide seconds anyway, so subdividing into
milli, micro, pico, nano, and femto seconds will be nothing new, we
would just use them more often (which incidentally would help with
converting globally to the metric system). Plank time wouldn't need to
change, just the conversion to seconds:
https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt
I came to agree with that as a smartass teenager.
The entire argument gets a glazed look or an eye roll. I convinced not
one person and eventually learned to shut up about time systems.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 5:16 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 3/6/25 1:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar >>>>> pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how >>>>> did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of >>>>> me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson
Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)
lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"
What is a "Fire Pit"?
On 3/7/2025 8:00 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 5:16 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 3/6/25 1:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar >>>>> pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how >>>>> did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the >>>>> handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, >>>>> and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of >>>>> me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt >>>>> bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.
?Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, ?Wow
what a ride!? - Hunter S. Thompson
Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)
lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is >> going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit). >>
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"
What is a "Fire Pit"?
basically, a pit where you have a controlled fire. In our case, it's a ~
6' diameter structure built out of cobblestones on a concrete pad.
On Sat Mar 8 12:50:06 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 8:00 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 5:16 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 3/6/25 1:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar >>>>>>> pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how >>>>>>> did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound >>>>>>> healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the >>>>>>> handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, >>>>>>> and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always >>>>>>> feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a >>>>>>> surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of >>>>>>> me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt >>>>>>> bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.
?Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving >>>>>> safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, ?Wow >>>>>> what a ride!? - Hunter S. Thompson
Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)
lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is >>>> going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit). >>>>
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"
What is a "Fire Pit"?
basically, a pit where you have a controlled fire. In our case, it's a ~
6' diameter structure built out of cobblestones on a concrete pad.
I know that there is subject drift, but going from how to get disc brakes to bleed properly to how to use fire is just too stupid for words. Everyone uses BBQ's and not a hole in the ground where a fire is burning!
I know that there is subject drift, but going from how to get disc brakes to bleed properly to how to use fire is just too stupid for words. Everyone uses BBQ's and not a hole in the ground where a fire is burning!
Maybe a small bribe is in order. I have fixed her bike for her several times...
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 09:57:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer >>>>> in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels >>>>> shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time! >>>>>
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would >>>>> be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me >>>> for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees. >>
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
I think I favor permanent DST, but, whatever.... it's not an issue
with me. I live on my own time.
Am 07.03.2025 um 19:08 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 09:57:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer >>>>>> in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels >>>>>> shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would >>>>>> be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me >>>>> for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home. >>>> When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees. >>>
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States> >>>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
I think I favor permanent DST, but, whatever.... it's not an issue
with me. I live on my own time.
One of the benefits ob being retired I guess. For most of the working population, school times and shift pattersn of working time are
overwhelming.
As a research student, I also lived in my own time: get up at 9 or 10,
go to university, read e-mail and the newspaper up till lunch, work in
in the afternoon till around 22:00, then cycle home in the night.
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 17:35:56 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 08 Mar 2025 08:00:07 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/6/2025 5:16 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 3/6/25 1:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 3:45 PM, Joerg wrote:
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar >>>>>>> pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how >>>>>>> did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound >>>>>>> healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the >>>>>>> handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, >>>>>>> and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always >>>>>>> feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a >>>>>>> surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of >>>>>>> me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt >>>>>>> bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving >>>>>> safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow >>>>>> what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson
Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)
lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is >>>> going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit). >>>>
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"
What is a "Fire Pit"?
<https://www.google.com/search?q=fire%20pit&udm=2>
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking. Even though gas, electric, microwave and hot
air ovens have long ago replaced the an open fire for cooking, both
cooking and pyromania are still with us today as demonstrated by
rapidly increasing fire pit sales and wildfire statistics.
<https://www.grandviewresearch.com/horizon/outlook/fire-pits-market-size/global>
Interesting... Both of my wives were Orientals and grew up cooking
over something that would, I guess, be called a "fire pit" in the U.S.
and after we married I, with giving it much thought, bought the usual "kitchen" devices, Fridge, gas stove, etc., and both wives thought the
gas stove was an amazing invention. In fact both wives viewed the
Fridges with some skepticism - You want to keep That Much beer cold --
as both felt that a "proper wife" would go to the market early each
morning to be sure that THEIR husband got only fresh food to eat.
On 3/7/2025 1:34 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:57 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank KrygowskiI would support basing everything off 24 hr GMT. I don't see how
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/7/2025 12:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The
trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer
wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.
All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at
the time!
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which
would
be April 1 in England.
Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that
fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.
I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at
home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15
degrees.
"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate- bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become
the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really
screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely
to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was
saved
by enlarging DST in the US:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which
means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>
that would make anything 'worse', if anything, it simplifes
everything. A zoom meeting at 1200 is 1200 everywhere, regardless if
you're in Berlin Germany or NYC. No more excuses of forgetting to
account for time zones. No more needing to base your clock setting
off longitude.
While we're at it, get rid of the 24/60/60 system, base it all on
tens: Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten seconds in a
minute. A day becomes 1000 seconds long rather than 86400
seconds. We already use base ten to divide seconds anyway, so
subdividing into milli, micro, pico, nano, and femto seconds will be
nothing new, we would just use them more often (which incidentally
would help with converting globally to the metric system). Plank
time wouldn't need to change, just the conversion to seconds:
https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt
I came to agree with that as a smartass teenager.
The entire argument gets a glazed look or an eye roll. I convinced not
one person and eventually learned to shut up about time systems.
On 3/6/2025 11:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
I had a dent in the top tube and it went away.
You did not. You may have imagined it or hallucinated it. But that did
not happen. It's impossible.
I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen ...
You did not. You blathered some vaguely related terms that did not give
any justification for such a miracle.
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer...
The examining and licensing board of two states disagreed with you.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think.
I don't have training in medicine, but I suspect you're correct. It's probably not your brain injury that's causing your thinking problems.
It's something else.
On 3/7/2025 11:36 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/7/2025 9:59 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and >>>>>>>>>> appears to be
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not >>>>>>>>>>> "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar. >>>>>>>>>>>
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the >>>>>>>>>>> connections.
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is >>>>>>>>>> I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design. >>>>>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers >>>>>>>>> didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That
occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping >>>>>>> out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk >>>>>>>>> bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same >>>>>>>>> pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled >>>>>>>>> without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The >>>>>>>> front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the >>>>>>>> lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper >>>>>>>> with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and >>>>>>>> crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or >>>>>> rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he
believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain
injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me >>>>>> a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks
intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes
and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at >>>>>> moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the
(which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious >>>>>> day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic >>>>>> Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the >>>>>> area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it
went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and
you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical
engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky >>>>> is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode
TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides.
If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive -
the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and >>>>> that was treated successfully with medication. So the question
arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so
you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would
you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just
imagining it?
That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.
True, but the principles are the same across steels as a group. The relative numbers vary from one steel alloy or temper finish to another.
Except that the characteristics of a tube versus a sheet of the same
material thickness are more than a little different. The form of the
metal is of critical consideration.
On 3/7/2025 9:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:sort. Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design. >>>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't >>>>>>> have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to >>>>>>> me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk >>>>>>> bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on >>>>>>> front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a >>>>>>> problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front >>>>>> points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the >>>>>> lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a >>>>>> tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and >>>>>> crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes >>>> it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has >>>> made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at >>>> moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is >>>> old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s >>>> packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?
Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.
And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
the piece is larger, inherently. See micrographs and
diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.
Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
practice:
https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/
On Fri Mar 7 11:46:55 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 11:36 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/7/2025 9:59 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>>>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and >>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not >>>>>>>>>>>>> "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>>>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> connections.
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is >>>>>>>>>>>> I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design. >>>>>>>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers >>>>>>>>>>> didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That >>>>>>>>>>> occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping >>>>>>>>> out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk >>>>>>>>>>> bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same >>>>>>>>>>> pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled >>>>>>>>>>> without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The >>>>>>>>>> front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the >>>>>>>>>> lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper >>>>>>>>>> with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and >>>>>>>>>> crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or >>>>>>>> rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he >>>>>>>> believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain >>>>>>>> injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me >>>>>>>> a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks
intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes >>>>>>>> and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at >>>>>>>> moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the >>>>>>>> (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious >>>>>>>> day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic >>>>>>>> Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the >>>>>>>> area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it >>>>>>> went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and >>>>>>> you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical
engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky >>>>>>> is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode >>>>>>> TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. >>>>>>> If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - >>>>>>> the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and >>>>>>> that was treated successfully with medication. So the question
arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so >>>>> you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would >>>>> you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just
imagining it?
That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.
True, but the principles are the same across steels as a group. The
relative numbers vary from one steel alloy or temper finish to another.
Except that the characteristics of a tube versus a sheet of the same
material thickness are more than a little different. The form of the
metal is of critical consideration.
Flunky, you always have to tell us everything your don't know the first thing about.
On Thu Mar 6 12:33:26 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/6/2025 11:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
I had a dent in the top tube and it went away.
You did not. You may have imagined it or hallucinated it. But that did
not happen. It's impossible.
I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen ...
You did not. You blathered some vaguely related terms that did not give
any justification for such a miracle.
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer...
The examining and licensing board of two states disagreed with you.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think.
I don't have training in medicine, but I suspect you're correct. It's
probably not your brain injury that's causing your thinking problems.
It's something else.
The problem is in your brain. I did nothing more than report what happened and you've spent months now telling us all that it never happened.
That shows your incompetence.
On 3/7/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?
A person may be able to disassemble a vehicle door and apply force to a
metal door panel from the inside. If the panel was nearly flat and the deformation was entirely elastic (which is unlikely) a dent might
possibly be pushed out. More likely, some imperfection will remain for a
body man to address.
A dent in a bike top tube can't be entirely elastic deformation. The
geometry won't allow that. And what magical creature could have gotten
inside your top tube and applied the necessary outward force?
_Nobody_ is believing your story, Tom. It's literally impossible. Please
give it up.
On Fri Mar 7 11:46:55 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 11:36 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/7/2025 9:59 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/7/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>>>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and >>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not >>>>>>>>>>>>> "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>>>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> connections.
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is >>>>>>>>>>>> I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design. >>>>>>>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers >>>>>>>>>>> didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That >>>>>>>>>>> occurred to
me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping >>>>>>>>> out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk >>>>>>>>>>> bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same >>>>>>>>>>> pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled >>>>>>>>>>> without a
problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The >>>>>>>>>> front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the >>>>>>>>>> lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper >>>>>>>>>> with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and >>>>>>>>>> crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or >>>>>>>> rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he >>>>>>>> believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain >>>>>>>> injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me >>>>>>>> a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks
intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes >>>>>>>> and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at >>>>>>>> moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the >>>>>>>> (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious >>>>>>>> day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic >>>>>>>> Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the >>>>>>>> area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it >>>>>>> went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and >>>>>>> you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical
engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky >>>>>>> is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode >>>>>>> TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. >>>>>>> If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - >>>>>>> the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and >>>>>>> that was treated successfully with medication. So the question
arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so >>>>> you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would >>>>> you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just
imagining it?
That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.
True, but the principles are the same across steels as a group. The
relative numbers vary from one steel alloy or temper finish to another.
Except that the characteristics of a tube versus a sheet of the same
material thickness are more than a little different. The form of the
metal is of critical consideration.
Flunky, you always have to tell us everything your don't know the first thing about.
On Fri Mar 7 10:16:04 2025 AMuzi wrote:sort. Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to
On 3/7/2025 9:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 11:23:43 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Mar 6 12:46:35 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 2:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Mar 4 21:55:28 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if >>>>>>>>>>> these areShould be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with >>>>>>>>>>> almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar. >>>>>>>>>>>
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design. >>>>>>>>>
What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't >>>>>>>>> have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to >>>>>>>>> me in a dream.
Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example
But since they are compatible it must be air in the
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk >>>>>>>>> bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on >>>>>>>>> front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a >>>>>>>>> problem.
Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front >>>>>>>> points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the >>>>>>>> lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a >>>>>>>> tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and >>>>>>>> crannies of the caliper.
It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes >>>>>> it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has >>>>>> made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at >>>>>> moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is >>>>>> old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s >>>>>> packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!
Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?
You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?
Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.
And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
the piece is larger, inherently. See micrographs and
diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.
Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
practice:
https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/
Typically that is because you're talking about very strong tubing with high end steel. This puts the yield ajnd ultimate strength so close together than you can say they are identical. Again, think of pushing a dent out of a car door that could simplypop pit without leaving any marks other than at the edges which exceeded the ultimate strength of the material.
Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.
And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
the piece is larger, inherently. See micrographs and
diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.
Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
practice:
https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/
On Fri Mar 7 11:40:09 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/7/2025 10:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?
A person may be able to disassemble a vehicle door and apply force to a
metal door panel from the inside. If the panel was nearly flat and the
deformation was entirely elastic (which is unlikely) a dent might
possibly be pushed out. More likely, some imperfection will remain for a
body man to address.
A dent in a bike top tube can't be entirely elastic deformation. The
geometry won't allow that. And what magical creature could have gotten
inside your top tube and applied the necessary outward force?
_Nobody_ is believing your story, Tom. It's literally impossible. Please
give it up.
There you have it from the steel expert. It may happen in one case but not in another.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 10:16:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(...)
Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.
And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
the piece is larger, inherently. See micrographs and
diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.
Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
practice:
https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/
Problem with the above URL. Near the top of the page, above the red
car wreck photo, is a large box containing various advertisements. I accidentally clicked on one that just said "click here to continue".
What I got was a simulated control panel, keyboard problems, flashing
lights, beeping sounds, and a lady announcing that I have violated
some contrived rule and that I should call some phone number to unlock
my computer. Swell. If you run into the same problem, turn off the computer, wait about 10 seconds, turn it back on, and you should
regain control.
Also, thanks for the URL. I have some dings in my car from trees and branches falling. The dings are not too serious. I plan to deal with
it when the weather improves. Of course, I also said that last year. <https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/auto-body-trim/auto-body/body-and-fender-set-7-piece-63259.html>
On 3/12/2025 11:58 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 10:16:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(...)
Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.
And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
the piece is larger, inherently. See micrographs and
diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.
Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
practice:
https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/
Problem with the above URL. Near the top of the page, above the red
car wreck photo, is a large box containing various advertisements. I
accidentally clicked on one that just said "click here to continue".
What I got was a simulated control panel, keyboard problems, flashing
lights, beeping sounds, and a lady announcing that I have violated
some contrived rule and that I should call some phone number to unlock
my computer. Swell. If you run into the same problem, turn off the
computer, wait about 10 seconds, turn it back on, and you should
regain control.
Also, thanks for the URL. I have some dings in my car from trees and
branches falling. The dings are not too serious. I plan to deal with
it when the weather improves. Of course, I also said that last year.
<https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/auto-body-trim/auto-body/body-and-fender-set-7-piece-63259.html>
heh heh heh.
Yes we all learn not to click on those.
I suggest you start with the smallest of the
easily-accessible-on-both-sides dents. Those can often be
reformed without paint loss, a real bonus. And you'll feel
great after a victory!
Removing dents is a straightforward process but on autos
dents seem to gravitate to places human hands can't reach.
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:07:19 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 3/12/2025 11:58 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 10:16:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(...)
Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.
And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
the piece is larger, inherently. See micrographs and
diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.
Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
practice:
https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/
Problem with the above URL. Near the top of the page, above the red
car wreck photo, is a large box containing various advertisements. I
accidentally clicked on one that just said "click here to continue".
What I got was a simulated control panel, keyboard problems, flashing
lights, beeping sounds, and a lady announcing that I have violated
some contrived rule and that I should call some phone number to unlock
my computer. Swell. If you run into the same problem, turn off the
computer, wait about 10 seconds, turn it back on, and you should
regain control.
Also, thanks for the URL. I have some dings in my car from trees and
branches falling. The dings are not too serious. I plan to deal with
it when the weather improves. Of course, I also said that last year.
<https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/auto-body-trim/auto-body/body-and-fender-set-7-piece-63259.html>
heh heh heh.
Yes we all learn not to click on those.
I doubt that anyone will believe me, but the last time I saw similar
malware was probably 5 years ago. I can't say the same about my
friends and customers, who usually call me if it happens to them.
Also, I didn't really click the mouse this time. The weather display
on my desk, fell on the mouse, which clicked the mouse button. <https://photos.app.goo.gl/cLE9g4gbCjv34WRF8>
I suggest you start with the smallest of the
easily-accessible-on-both-sides dents. Those can often be
reformed without paint loss, a real bonus. And you'll feel
great after a victory!
Good suggestions. I was going to start with the big dents and work on
the rest after I get some practice. I've done this before, not this
messy. I found this replacement fender, but $360 seems a bit much: <https://photos.app.goo.gl/cLE9g4gbCjv34WRF8>
Removing dents is a straightforward process but on autos
dents seem to gravitate to places human hands can't reach.
Yep. One dent is over the gas filler tube and door. To protect the
tube and vent, Subaru provided some rather solid obstacles: <https://photos.app.goo.gl/xTCSiawugFvvv9V6A>
Oh well, yet an other deferred maintenance project for summer.
Mr Krygowski's comment is right. He does actually know
something about metals, physics and engineering.
On 3/12/2025 1:01 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:07:19 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 3/12/2025 11:58 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 10:16:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(...)
Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.
And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
the piece is larger, inherently. See micrographs and
diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.
Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
practice:
https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/
Problem with the above URL. Near the top of the page, above the red
car wreck photo, is a large box containing various advertisements. I
accidentally clicked on one that just said "click here to continue".
What I got was a simulated control panel, keyboard problems, flashing
lights, beeping sounds, and a lady announcing that I have violated
some contrived rule and that I should call some phone number to unlock >>>> my computer. Swell. If you run into the same problem, turn off the
computer, wait about 10 seconds, turn it back on, and you should
regain control.
Also, thanks for the URL. I have some dings in my car from trees and
branches falling. The dings are not too serious. I plan to deal with >>>> it when the weather improves. Of course, I also said that last year.
<https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/auto-body-trim/auto-body/body-and-fender-set-7-piece-63259.html>
heh heh heh.
Yes we all learn not to click on those.
I doubt that anyone will believe me, but the last time I saw similar
malware was probably 5 years ago. I can't say the same about my
friends and customers, who usually call me if it happens to them.
Also, I didn't really click the mouse this time. The weather display
on my desk, fell on the mouse, which clicked the mouse button.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/cLE9g4gbCjv34WRF8>
I suggest you start with the smallest of the
easily-accessible-on-both-sides dents. Those can often be
reformed without paint loss, a real bonus. And you'll feel
great after a victory!
Good suggestions. I was going to start with the big dents and work on
the rest after I get some practice. I've done this before, not this
messy. I found this replacement fender, but $360 seems a bit much:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/cLE9g4gbCjv34WRF8>
Removing dents is a straightforward process but on autos
dents seem to gravitate to places human hands can't reach.
Yep. One dent is over the gas filler tube and door. To protect the
tube and vent, Subaru provided some rather solid obstacles:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/xTCSiawugFvvv9V6A>
Oh well, yet an other deferred maintenance project for summer.
In the quick-and-dirty school of auto body, there's chopped
fiberglas filler for that.
https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/brands/a/evercoat/tiger-hair/evc/evcw
I know a tube doesn't have the same characteristics as a formed sheet, apparently that concept escapes you
On Wed Mar 12 12:29:42 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
I know a tube doesn't have the same characteristics as a formed sheet,
apparently that concept escapes you
You also know that you did a 200 mile ride at and average speed of 20 mph.
And that in your 60's you rqce cat 3.
And that you know swomething about engineering.
On Wed Mar 12 11:43:55 2025 AMuzi wrote:
Mr Krygowski's comment is right. He does actually know
something about metals, physics and engineering.
I think that you are too easily impressed with a degre. I may have my terminologt screwed up but my steel bike did have a dent disappear after a ride through some very rough pzvement
On Wed Mar 12 11:43:55 2025 AMuzi wrote:
Mr Krygowski's comment is right. He does actually know
something about metals, physics and engineering.
I think that you are too easily impressed with a degre. I may have my terminologt screwed up but my steel bike did have a dent disappear after a ride through some very rough pzvement
On 3/12/2025 4:39 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Mar 12 11:43:55 2025 AMuzi wrote:
Mr Krygowski's comment is right. He does actually know
something about metals, physics and engineering.
I think that you are too easily impressed with a degre. I
may have my terminologt screwed up but my steel bike did
have a dent disappear after a ride through some very rough
pzvement
There you have it Andrew, Except that tommy seems to forget
your own 50+ years of owning a bike shop, riding and
repairing literally 1000's of all types of bicycles,
extensive experience in building and repairing metal
machinery and constructions.....you should just take the
word of a guy who never built his own frame and claims a
metaphysical phenomenon occurred to only him in the history
of the planet.
It's almost.......god-like!
I'll be he has some tasty kool-aide for you.....
On Wed Mar 12 11:43:55 2025 AMuzi wrote:
Mr Krygowski's comment is right. He does actually know
something about metals, physics and engineering.
I think that you are too easily impressed with a degre. I may have my terminologt screwed up but my steel bike did have a dent disappear after a ride through some very rough pzvement
On 3/12/2025 4:03 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/12/2025 4:39 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Mar 12 11:43:55 2025 AMuzi wrote:
Mr Krygowski's comment is right. He does actually know
something about metals, physics and engineering.
I think that you are too easily impressed with a degre. I may have my
terminologt screwed up but my steel bike did have a dent disappear
after a ride through some very rough pzvement
There you have it Andrew, Except that tommy seems to forget your own
50+ years of owning a bike shop, riding and repairing literally 1000's
of all types of bicycles, extensive experience in building and
repairing metal machinery and constructions.....you should just take
the word of a guy who never built his own frame and claims a
metaphysical phenomenon occurred to only him in the history of the
planet.
It's almost.......god-like!
I'll be he has some tasty kool-aide for you.....
No longer!
https://babylonbee.com/news/ladies-and-gentlemen-we-got-him-rfk-jr- announces-seal-team-six-has-neutralized-the-kool-aid-man
Right - Last year I had my roof re-shingled and the driveway replaced -
Total of ~15K, paid for with checks. A few months ago I spent 3K on a
new exhaust system, paid with a debit card.
Tommy has no money. Note how he's gone from "I'm saving my money to will
to my step-children" to "I gave 60K to my brothers and eat at pricey restaurants almost every night" to explain why in 5 years, his million
dollar investments are still only worth a million, then accuses everyone
who disagrees with him on politics of being broke.
jutelist #2. "Repeatedly accusing people of being on welfare. He worries
that he'll end up on welfare."
On Fri Mar 7 11:41:54 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
Right - Last year I had my roof re-shingled and the driveway replaced -
Total of ~15K, paid for with checks. A few months ago I spent 3K on a
new exhaust system, paid with a debit card.
Tommy has no money. Note how he's gone from "I'm saving my money to will
to my step-children" to "I gave 60K to my brothers and eat at pricey
restaurants almost every night" to explain why in 5 years, his million
dollar investments are still only worth a million, then accuses everyone
who disagrees with him on politics of being broke.
jutelist #2. "Repeatedly accusing people of being on welfare. He worries
that he'll end up on welfare."
It makes you feel really bad because I can assord to do things outside of your finanacial reqlm.
I'm sure you can figure out something else to cry about.
Despite the GDP dropping somewhat, the Dow, etc. went up. That's because the market has nothing but contempt for your like.
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