The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 3/5/2025 3:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
News to me; 5-arm 110mm chainring bolts are a universal
commodity AFAIK.
With a magnifier, see if they are just broached poorly or
maybe if they are Torx. If you succumbed to the bad idea of
an aluminum chainring bolt that's very possible.
On 3/5/2025 3:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
News to me; 5-arm 110mm chainring bolts are a universal commodity AFAIK.
With a magnifier, see if they are just broached poorly or maybe if they
are Torx. If you succumbed to the bad idea of an aluminum chainring
bolt that's very possible.
On 3/5/2025 5:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/5/2025 3:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
News to me; 5-arm 110mm chainring bolts are a universal commodity AFAIK.
With a magnifier, see if they are just broached poorly or maybe if they
are Torx. If you succumbed to the bad idea of an aluminum chainring
bolt that's very possible.
I have a set that are torx, and it's a known "problem"
https://www.reddit.com/r/cycling/comments/6drndl/shimano_chainring_bolts_t30_torx_why/?rdt=44490
If the bolts have crud built up and the light isn't really good, they
can look like Allen,
Just make sure whether they're Imperial or Metric :)
On 3/5/2025 5:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/5/2025 3:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the
chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I
didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex
deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find
a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard
and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like
they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
News to me; 5-arm 110mm chainring bolts are a universal
commodity AFAIK.
With a magnifier, see if they are just broached poorly or
maybe if they are Torx. If you succumbed to the bad idea
of an aluminum chainring bolt that's very possible.
I have a set that are torx, and it's a known "problem"
https://www.reddit.com/r/cycling/comments/6drndl/ shimano_chainring_bolts_t30_torx_why/?rdt=44490
If the bolts have crud built up and the light isn't really
good, they can look like Allen,
Just make sure whether they're Imperial or Metric :)
On 3/6/2025 5:11 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 3/5/2025 5:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/5/2025 3:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
News to me; 5-arm 110mm chainring bolts are a universal commodity AFAIK. >>>
With a magnifier, see if they are just broached poorly or maybe if
they are Torx. If you succumbed to the bad idea of an aluminum
chainring bolt that's very possible.
I have a set that are torx, and it's a known "problem"
https://www.reddit.com/r/cycling/comments/6drndl/
shimano_chainring_bolts_t30_torx_why/?rdt=44490
If the bolts have crud built up and the light isn't really good, they
can look like Allen,
Just make sure whether they're Imperial or Metric :)
Imperial are a distinct rarity here in USA ( I went all over hell to
find a WW allen for my custom Hetchins long ago).
More common are SAE, which outnumber, in fasteners and tools, metric to
some great degree.
That said, chainring bolts are a minuscule subset of fasteners and, as a standard consumer product, not-metric are virtually unknown (or at least
I have never seen one. Not one.)
It did actually turn out to be defective broaching which makes more
sense than any other variant.
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 3/5/2025 5:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/5/2025 3:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
News to me; 5-arm 110mm chainring bolts are a universal commodity AFAIK. >>>
With a magnifier, see if they are just broached poorly or maybe if they
are Torx. If you succumbed to the bad idea of an aluminum chainring
bolt that's very possible.
I have a set that are torx, and it's a known "problem"
https://www.reddit.com/r/cycling/comments/6drndl/shimano_chainring_bolts_t30_torx_why/?rdt=44490
If the bolts have crud built up and the light isn't really good, they
can look like Allen,
Just make sure whether they're Imperial or Metric :)
Talking of standards, my dad had loads of fun, at Halfords which is car and bike chain stores, getting some new tyres for the New Hudson bike which is old much abused bike and has 26inch tyres but not the “normal” ones which resulted in lots of head scratching by Halfords, I think there are 3
separate similar sized but different sizes with out checking the bible aka Sheldon Browns site!
Roger Merriman
On 3/6/2025 9:51 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 5:11 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 3/5/2025 5:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/5/2025 3:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the
chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I
didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex
deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not
find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard
and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like
they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
News to me; 5-arm 110mm chainring bolts are a universal
commodity AFAIK.
With a magnifier, see if they are just broached poorly
or maybe if they are Torx. If you succumbed to the bad
idea of an aluminum chainring bolt that's very possible.
I have a set that are torx, and it's a known "problem"
https://www.reddit.com/r/cycling/comments/6drndl/
shimano_chainring_bolts_t30_torx_why/?rdt=44490
If the bolts have crud built up and the light isn't
really good, they can look like Allen,
Just make sure whether they're Imperial or Metric :)
Imperial are a distinct rarity here in USA ( I went all
over hell to find a WW allen for my custom Hetchins long
ago).
More common are SAE, which outnumber, in fasteners and
tools, metric to some great degree.
That said, chainring bolts are a minuscule subset of
fasteners and, as a standard consumer product, not-metric
are virtually unknown (or at least I have never seen one.
Not one.)
It did actually turn out to be defective broaching which
makes more sense than any other variant.
um....It was a joke about metric vs imperial torx, Andrew
On 3/6/2025 5:11 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 3/5/2025 5:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/5/2025 3:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the
chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I
didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex
deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find
a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard
and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like
they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
News to me; 5-arm 110mm chainring bolts are a universal
commodity AFAIK.
With a magnifier, see if they are just broached poorly or
maybe if they are Torx. If you succumbed to the bad idea
of an aluminum chainring bolt that's very possible.
I have a set that are torx, and it's a known "problem"
https://www.reddit.com/r/cycling/comments/6drndl/
shimano_chainring_bolts_t30_torx_why/?rdt=44490
If the bolts have crud built up and the light isn't really
good, they can look like Allen,
Just make sure whether they're Imperial or Metric :)
Imperial are a distinct rarity here in USA ( I went all over
hell to find a WW allen for my custom Hetchins long ago).
More common are SAE, which outnumber, in fasteners and
tools, metric to some great degree.
That said, chainring bolts are a minuscule subset of
fasteners and, as a standard consumer product, not-metric
are virtually unknown (or at least I have never seen one.
Not one.)
It did actually turn out to be defective broaching which
makes more sense than any other variant.
As an aside, tubulars, the oldest standard which size has
not changed since the 1890s, are variously labeled "700C"
(they are not; the 700 type C was developed later to
exchange wheels with the same brake height as a tubular) or
"27 inch" (they are not; 27 inch systems are larger) or "28
inch" (again, 28s are all much larger) even down to today by
various tubular makers in some weird vestigial rite. The
net effect is confusion to riders and is not at all helpful.
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
As an aside, tubulars, the oldest standard which size has
not changed since the 1890s, are variously labeled "700C"
(they are not; the 700 type C was developed later to
exchange wheels with the same brake height as a tubular) or
"27 inch" (they are not; 27 inch systems are larger) or "28
inch" (again, 28s are all much larger) even down to today by
various tubular makers in some weird vestigial rite. The
net effect is confusion to riders and is not at all helpful.
As a matter of curiosity, what is that standard size called,
and how is it measured?
Thanks for writing,
bob prohaska
On Wed Mar 5 16:08:18 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
Modern crank bolts can be made out of aluminum and instead of allen bolt may be Torx. Usually you can use the camera option on your smart phone to see close enough to identify this.
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 17:04:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Mar 5 16:08:18 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
Modern crank bolts can be made out of aluminum and instead of allen bolt may be Torx. Usually you can use the camera option on your smart phone to see close enough to identify this.
Aluminum crank bolts are for weight weenies, and I did try a torx
driver on them. The bolts were mismanufactured. I tossed them. Not
worth trying to return them.
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 12:46:42 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 17:04:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Mar 5 16:08:18 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
Modern crank bolts can be made out of aluminum and instead of allen bolt may be Torx. Usually you can use the camera option on your smart phone to see close enough to identify this.
Aluminum crank bolts are for weight weenies, and I did try a torx
driver on them. The bolts were mismanufactured. I tossed them. Not
worth trying to return them.
They also may have been misordered. There are Torx and Torx Plus
heads. Common Torx heads have a 15 degree drive angle, while Torx
Plus has a zero degree drive angle.
<https://i.imgur.com/dvIdABh.jpeg>
"The Evolution of Torx: From Torx to Torx Plus and Beyond" ><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhRcWaEkHtE> (7:52)
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 12:46:42 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 17:04:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Mar 5 16:08:18 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and
the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
Modern crank bolts can be made out of aluminum and instead of allen bolt may be Torx. Usually you can use the camera option on your smart phone to see close enough to identify this.
Aluminum crank bolts are for weight weenies, and I did try a torx
driver on them. The bolts were mismanufactured. I tossed them. Not
worth trying to return them.
They also may have been misordered. There are Torx and Torx Plus
heads. Common Torx heads have a 15 degree drive angle, while Torx
Plus has a zero degree drive angle.
<https://i.imgur.com/dvIdABh.jpeg>
"The Evolution of Torx: From Torx to Torx Plus and Beyond" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhRcWaEkHtE> (7:52)
On 3/6/2025 2:26 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 12:46:42 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 17:04:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Mar 5 16:08:18 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
The chain ring guard came so I set about mounting the chain rings and >>>>> the guard. I ordered new chain ring bolts because I didn't want to
disassemble the old crank. The new inner bolts had hex deep down
inside and I figure that was fine until I could not find a allen
wrench that fit them. I tried both metric and standard and nothing
fits. The bolts on my old crank take a #5 allen.
Does anyone know what's going on?
I ordered another set of 16mm bolts and they look like they have a
larger hex that's not set deep inside it.
Modern crank bolts can be made out of aluminum and instead of allen
bolt may be Torx. Usually you can use the camera option on your
smart phone to see close enough to identify this.
Aluminum crank bolts are for weight weenies, and I did try a torx
driver on them. The bolts were mismanufactured. I tossed them. Not
worth trying to return them.
They also may have been misordered. There are Torx and Torx Plus
heads. Common Torx heads have a 15 degree drive angle, while Torx
Plus has a zero degree drive angle.
<https://i.imgur.com/dvIdABh.jpeg>
"The Evolution of Torx: From Torx to Torx Plus and Beyond"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhRcWaEkHtE> (7:52)
Standards are wonderful. We ought to have lots of them.
On 3/6/2025 10:54 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
As an aside, tubulars, the oldest standard which size has
not changed since the 1890s, are variously labeled "700C"
(they are not; the 700 type C was developed later to
exchange wheels with the same brake height as a tubular) or
"27 inch" (they are not; 27 inch systems are larger) or "28
inch" (again, 28s are all much larger) even down to today by
various tubular makers in some weird vestigial rite. The
net effect is confusion to riders and is not at all helpful.
As a matter of curiosity, what is that standard size called,
and how is it measured?
Thanks for writing,
bob prohaska
"tubulars".*
They predate numerical designations but originally were called 28 inch
as they were a lot fatter then. Actual rim diameter is 630mm.
And now, we return to fat tubulars for 'gravel' and cyclo cross. The
ever popular 23mm tubulars are about 26-1/2 inches edge to edge. Newer
fat tubulars are about 27-1/2 inches on that rim.
*there are/were 26" tubulars for TT and track, 24" for children's bikes
and 22", 20" for wheelchairs. All are and were specialties/oddities with
no significant volume.
https://howirollsports.com/shop/panaracer-rapide-20-inch/
On 3/6/2025 12:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:54 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
As an aside, tubulars, the oldest standard which size has
not changed since the 1890s, are variously labeled "700C"
(they are not; the 700 type C was developed later to
exchange wheels with the same brake height as a tubular) or
"27 inch" (they are not; 27 inch systems are larger) or "28
inch" (again, 28s are all much larger) even down to
today by
various tubular makers in some weird vestigial rite. The
net effect is confusion to riders and is not at all
helpful.
As a matter of curiosity, what is that standard size called,
and how is it measured?
Thanks for writing,
bob prohaska
"tubulars".*
They predate numerical designations but originally were
called 28 inch as they were a lot fatter then. Actual rim
diameter is 630mm.
And now, we return to fat tubulars for 'gravel' and cyclo
cross. The ever popular 23mm tubulars are about 26-1/2
inches edge to edge. Newer fat tubulars are about 27-1/2
inches on that rim.
*there are/were 26" tubulars for TT and track, 24" for
children's bikes and 22", 20" for wheelchairs. All are and
were specialties/oddities with no significant volume.
https://howirollsports.com/shop/panaracer-rapide-20-inch/
One of my best friends (still) has an old Takara "funny
bike" from the 1980's with a 24" front wheel, he had
tubulars on it. Even then, a 24" tubular was special order.
On 3/7/2025 5:20 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 3/6/2025 12:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2025 10:54 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
As an aside, tubulars, the oldest standard which size has
not changed since the 1890s, are variously labeled "700C"
(they are not; the 700 type C was developed later to
exchange wheels with the same brake height as a tubular) or
"27 inch" (they are not; 27 inch systems are larger) or "28
inch" (again, 28s are all much larger) even down to today by
various tubular makers in some weird vestigial rite. The
net effect is confusion to riders and is not at all helpful.
As a matter of curiosity, what is that standard size called,
and how is it measured?
Thanks for writing,
bob prohaska
"tubulars".*
They predate numerical designations but originally were called 28
inch as they were a lot fatter then. Actual rim diameter is 630mm.
And now, we return to fat tubulars for 'gravel' and cyclo cross. The
ever popular 23mm tubulars are about 26-1/2 inches edge to edge.
Newer fat tubulars are about 27-1/2 inches on that rim.
*there are/were 26" tubulars for TT and track, 24" for children's
bikes and 22", 20" for wheelchairs. All are and were specialties/
oddities with no significant volume.
https://howirollsports.com/shop/panaracer-rapide-20-inch/
One of my best friends (still) has an old Takara "funny bike" from the
1980's with a 24" front wheel, he had tubulars on it. Even then, a 24"
tubular was special order.
Right. That had its popular moment both in professional level machines:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/xrr.html
and in 'econo' versions:
https://www.yellowjersey.org/axr.html
"tubulars".*
They predate numerical designations but originally were
called 28 inch as they were a lot fatter then. Actual rim
diameter is 630mm.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
"tubulars".*
They predate numerical designations but originally were
called 28 inch as they were a lot fatter then. Actual rim
diameter is 630mm.
So the tire was named by major diameter x width and the wheel
by major tire diameter minus twice the minor diameter? That's
sensible. Provided the cross section is always circular. Is it?
Thanks for writing!
bob prohaska
Aluminum crank bolts are for weight weenies, and I did try a torx
driver on them. The bolts were mismanufactured. I tossed them. Not
worth trying to return them.
They also may have been misordered. There are Torx and Torx Plus
heads. Common Torx heads have a 15 degree drive angle, while Torx
Plus has a zero degree drive angle.
<https://i.imgur.com/dvIdABh.jpeg>
"The Evolution of Torx: From Torx to Torx Plus and Beyond" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhRcWaEkHtE> (7:52)
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 16:37:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
And of course millions of bicycles use Torx Plus fittings. Liebermann knows!
Trex perhaps?
On Thu Mar 6 12:26:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Aluminum crank bolts are for weight weenies, and I did try a torx
driver on them. The bolts were mismanufactured. I tossed them. Not
worth trying to return them.
They also may have been misordered. There are Torx and Torx Plus
heads. Common Torx heads have a 15 degree drive angle, while Torx
Plus has a zero degree drive angle.
<https://i.imgur.com/dvIdABh.jpeg>
"The Evolution of Torx: From Torx to Torx Plus and Beyond"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhRcWaEkHtE> (7:52)
And of course millions of bicycles use Torx Plus fittings. Liebermann knows!
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 10:53:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 16:37:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
And of course millions of bicycles use Torx Plus fittings. Liebermann knows!
Trex perhaps?
Notice how neatly I combined Torx (fasteners) and Trek (bicycle mfg)
to produce Trex (decking).
On 3/7/2025 2:07 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 10:53:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 16:37:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
And of course millions of bicycles use Torx Plus fittings. Liebermann knows!
Trex perhaps?
Notice how neatly I combined Torx (fasteners) and Trek (bicycle mfg)
to produce Trex (decking).
uh, yeah.... that's what happened ;)
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 15:01:26 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 3/7/2025 2:07 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 10:53:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 16:37:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
And of course millions of bicycles use Torx Plus fittings. Liebermann knows!
Trex perhaps?
Notice how neatly I combined Torx (fasteners) and Trek (bicycle mfg)
to produce Trex (decking).
uh, yeah.... that's what happened ;)
I assure you that it was quite accidental. If it had been
intentional, I would have included the T-Rex (dinosaur) or T.Rex (the
band).
<https://darkcycleclothing.com/products/t-rex-on-a-bike-print>
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