• Riding safety with Alzheimer's?

    From Joerg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 14:43:12 2025
    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in
    this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is
    athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no
    problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed
    to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe
    ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem,
    that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in
    the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we
    have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted
    speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't
    want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always
    carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for
    electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    --
    Regards, Joerg

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 16:07:45 2025
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the >progress of such diseases.

    I suggest some kind of senior GPS tracker: <https://www.google.com/search?q=senior%20gps%20tracker&num=10&udm=2>

    During the pandemic, our group of about 6 hikers would regularly meet
    for walks (not bicycle rides) in Henry Cowell state park. One of our
    friends asked if he could join and if he could bring a friend. No
    problem, as long as the observed the usual Covid precautions. The
    friend of the friend turned out to be a rather serious diabetic. We
    discovered later that he had a history of not monitoring his blood
    sugar and wandering off.

    All seemed to be going well until we made a detour to the nearest
    public restroom. 15 minutes later, we discovered that he had
    disappeared. He also wasn't answering his cell phone. We checked
    with nearby hikers, but nobody had seen him. We were about to alert
    the park rangers, when someone saw him driving away from the park.
    That's also when our friend casually mentioned that he had driven
    himself to the state park in his car. We called his wife to alert her
    of the problem and asked her to call us if and when he arrives home.
    Half an hour later, we received the call. His cell phone battery was
    dead because he had forgotten to charge it.

    To avoid a repetition of this type of fire drill, someone should
    purchase a "senior GPS tracker" for your riding companion and
    permanently attach it to his clothes so that he doesn't loose it. The
    one's that run on a smartphone will rapidly discharge the phone
    battery. The one's that have an SOS button require an expensive
    service plan and are marginal in dense foliage. I haven't looked at
    the watches that use a smartphone as a repeater (i.e. Apple Watch).
    Those appeared after all this happened and might an improvement.

    Also, if you think that a cell phone is sufficient, be sure to enable
    location tracking on the phone. If you have his Google account login
    and password, you can use another computer to locate his position
    without requiring that he do anything: <https://myaccount.google.com/find-your-phone> <https://support.google.com/maps/answer/15437054>

    Thanks for volunteering.


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 18:35:01 2025
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in
    this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is
    athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no >problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed
    to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe
    ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem,
    that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in
    the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can >remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we
    have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted
    speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't
    want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always
    carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the >progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other >questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic >transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for
    electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living
    homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind
    of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose.
    Might be a good case for a tandem.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Joerg@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Sat Mar 8 17:42:55 2025
    On 3/8/25 4:07 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the
    progress of such diseases.

    I suggest some kind of senior GPS tracker: <https://www.google.com/search?q=senior%20gps%20tracker&num=10&udm=2>


    He has that but it wouldn't be any good if he steps on it and then I
    can't match his speed. At least once upon a time he must have been a
    rider more capable than I am. Much less weight but almost the same
    muscle power. I'll see. If I ask him not to forge ahead he won't likely
    do it.


    During the pandemic, our group of about 6 hikers would regularly meet
    for walks (not bicycle rides) in Henry Cowell state park. One of our
    friends asked if he could join and if he could bring a friend. No
    problem, as long as the observed the usual Covid precautions. The
    friend of the friend turned out to be a rather serious diabetic. We discovered later that he had a history of not monitoring his blood
    sugar and wandering off.


    Nasty.


    All seemed to be going well until we made a detour to the nearest
    public restroom. 15 minutes later, we discovered that he had
    disappeared. He also wasn't answering his cell phone. We checked
    with nearby hikers, but nobody had seen him. We were about to alert
    the park rangers, when someone saw him driving away from the park.
    That's also when our friend casually mentioned that he had driven
    himself to the state park in his car. We called his wife to alert her
    of the problem and asked her to call us if and when he arrives home.
    Half an hour later, we received the call. His cell phone battery was
    dead because he had forgotten to charge it.

    To avoid a repetition of this type of fire drill, someone should
    purchase a "senior GPS tracker" for your riding companion and
    permanently attach it to his clothes so that he doesn't loose it. The
    one's that run on a smartphone will rapidly discharge the phone
    battery. The one's that have an SOS button require an expensive
    service plan and are marginal in dense foliage. I haven't looked at
    the watches that use a smartphone as a repeater (i.e. Apple Watch).
    Those appeared after all this happened and might an improvement.

    Also, if you think that a cell phone is sufficient, be sure to enable location tracking on the phone. If you have his Google account login
    and password, you can use another computer to locate his position
    without requiring that he do anything: <https://myaccount.google.com/find-your-phone> <https://support.google.com/maps/answer/15437054>


    He is pretty well decked out with "electronic surveillance".


    Thanks for volunteering.


    Thank you as well. We all need to give back and be thankful that we
    don't have any of this stuff (yet ...).

    --
    Regards, Joerg

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Joerg on Sat Mar 8 19:53:04 2025
    On 3/8/2025 4:43 PM, Joerg wrote:
    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have
    dementia, in this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long
    walk together. He is athletic and used to be a powerful
    high-mileage road bike rider so no problems in the power and
    endurance domain. The disease has progressed to the point
    where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe ride
    into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No
    problem, that would be me. When I suggested that his
    (otherwise now quite passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and
    since we live in the hills this means trucking our bikes
    into the flatlands where you can remains in the same gear
    the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low
    amount of traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About
    20mi from here we have an almost perfect one that is about
    15mi long and has no posted speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB
    pedals, don't want to risk him not getting a foot out and
    fall (he is >70). I always carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on
    the web didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is
    beneficial in slowing the progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there
    will be other questions, such as whether there is a road
    bike bike with automatic transmission. Maybe based on Di2.
    They offer it but AFAIK only for electric MTB and maybe it
    can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces- automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am
    and leaves me in the dust that could present a very
    different problem :-)


    I am not an expert.

    If you want to shift the bike alongside you, set it up with
    SRAM and mount the mini-lever pod on your bike, not his.

    https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/EC-AXS-POD-D1

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Joerg@21:1/5 to Catrike Ryder on Sat Mar 8 17:36:44 2025
    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in
    this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is
    athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no
    problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed
    to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe
    ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem,
    that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in
    the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can
    remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we
    have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted
    speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't
    want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always
    carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the
    progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other
    questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic
    transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for
    electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living
    homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind
    of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose.
    Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a
    tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of
    care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there.
    Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease
    doing that.

    --
    Regards, Joerg

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Joerg on Sun Mar 9 08:45:57 2025
    Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:
    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in
    this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is
    athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed
    to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe
    ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem,
    that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in
    the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we
    have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted
    speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't
    want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always
    carry a first aid kit.

    I’d see how he gets on, I’d be minded to try his bike set up as it was so it’s familiar and try it somewhere safe, ie leave the clipless on as it was and so on.

    As it’s an old skill he may surprise you.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for
    electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)


    Roger Merriman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 9 05:35:37 2025
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:36:44 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in
    this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is
    athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no
    problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed
    to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe
    ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem, >>> that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in >>> the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can >>> remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we
    have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted
    speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't >>> want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always
    carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the >>> progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other
    questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic
    transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for
    electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living
    homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind
    of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose.
    Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a
    tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of
    care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there.
    Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease
    doing that.

    +1
    Yes, it's the disease. My wife, who worked in assisted living homes as
    an activities director always said something like that. She's retired
    now and I'm eighty so neither of us are involved and almost all of the attachments we made have passed on but we still maintain contact with
    a couple residents. THis is one who didn't make it.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/with/53910283643

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to Soloman@old.bikers.org on Sun Mar 9 05:41:05 2025
    On Sun, 09 Mar 2025 05:35:37 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:36:44 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in >>>> this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is
    athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no
    problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed >>>> to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe
    ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem, >>>> that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in >>>> the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can >>>> remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we
    have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted
    speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't >>>> want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always >>>> carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the >>>> progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other >>>> questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic
    transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for
    electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves >>>> me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living
    homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind
    of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose.
    Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a
    tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of >>care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there.
    Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease >>doing that.

    +1
    Yes, it's the disease. My wife, who worked in assisted living homes as
    an activities director always said something like that. She's retired
    now and I'm eighty so neither of us are involved and almost all of the >attachments we made have passed on but we still maintain contact with
    a couple residents. THis is one who didn't make it.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/with/53910283643

    Sorry, wrong picture..

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/53971342104

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Catrike Ryder on Sun Mar 9 09:33:15 2025
    On 3/9/2025 4:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:36:44 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in >>>> this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is
    athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no
    problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed >>>> to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe
    ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem, >>>> that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in >>>> the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can >>>> remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we
    have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted
    speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't >>>> want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always >>>> carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the >>>> progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other >>>> questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic
    transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for
    electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves >>>> me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living
    homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind
    of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose.
    Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a
    tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of
    care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there.
    Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease
    doing that.

    +1
    Yes, it's the disease. My wife, who worked in assisted living homes as
    an activities director always said something like that. She's retired
    now and I'm eighty so neither of us are involved and almost all of the attachments we made have passed on but we still maintain contact with
    a couple residents. THis is one who didn't make it.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/with/53910283643

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    "didn't make it" ??
    You look mostly alive in your photos.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Sun Mar 9 10:45:52 2025
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 09:33:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 3/9/2025 4:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:36:44 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in >>>>> this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is >>>>> athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no >>>>> problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed >>>>> to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe >>>>> ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem, >>>>> that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in >>>>> the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can >>>>> remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we >>>>> have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted >>>>> speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't >>>>> want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always >>>>> carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the >>>>> progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other >>>>> questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic
    transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for
    electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes: >>>>>
    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves >>>>> me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living
    homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind
    of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose. >>>> Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a
    tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of
    care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there.
    Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease
    doing that.

    +1
    Yes, it's the disease. My wife, who worked in assisted living homes as
    an activities director always said something like that. She's retired
    now and I'm eighty so neither of us are involved and almost all of the
    attachments we made have passed on but we still maintain contact with
    a couple residents. THis is one who didn't make it.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/with/53910283643

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    "didn't make it" ??
    You look mostly alive in your photos.

    Wrong reference.. Here's the right one.


    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/53971342104

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Joy Beeson@21:1/5 to news@analogconsultants.com on Sun Mar 9 22:31:36 2025
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg
    <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    Fitting his bike with steel panniers and putting all cargo
    on his bike might help.

    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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  • From Joerg@21:1/5 to Catrike Ryder on Mon Mar 10 12:12:00 2025
    On 3/9/25 7:45 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 09:33:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 3/9/2025 4:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:36:44 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in >>>>>> this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is >>>>>> athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no >>>>>> problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed >>>>>> to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe >>>>>> ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem, >>>>>> that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite
    passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in >>>>>> the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can >>>>>> remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of >>>>>> traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we >>>>>> have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted >>>>>> speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't >>>>>> want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always >>>>>> carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web >>>>>> didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the >>>>>> progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other >>>>>> questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic >>>>>> transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for >>>>>> electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes: >>>>>>
    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves >>>>>> me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living >>>>> homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind >>>>> of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose. >>>>> Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a
    tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of >>>> care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there.
    Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease >>>> doing that.

    +1
    Yes, it's the disease. My wife, who worked in assisted living homes as
    an activities director always said something like that. She's retired
    now and I'm eighty so neither of us are involved and almost all of the
    attachments we made have passed on but we still maintain contact with
    a couple residents. THis is one who didn't make it.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/with/53910283643

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    "didn't make it" ??
    You look mostly alive in your photos.

    Wrong reference.. Here's the right one.


    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/53971342104


    Getting Parkinson's that early is really hard :-(

    --
    Regards, Joerg

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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  • From Joerg@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Mon Mar 10 12:18:12 2025
    On 3/8/25 5:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 3/8/2025 4:43 PM, Joerg wrote:
    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in
    this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is
    athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no
    problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed
    to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe
    ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No
    problem, that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now
    quite passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live
    in the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where
    you can remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of
    traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we
    have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted
    speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals,
    don't want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I
    always carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web
    didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing
    the progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be
    other questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with
    automatic transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK
    only for electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road
    bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-
    automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and
    leaves me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)


    I am not an expert.

    If you want to shift the bike alongside you, set it up with SRAM and
    mount the mini-lever pod on your bike, not his.

    https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/EC-AXS-POD-D1


    That's an idea. Looks like it may be Bluetooth, that would bridge 10-20ft.

    I'll see how the first ride goes, how secure he still is on the bike.
    There is one short but fairly flat wide bike path near where they live
    so we can walk the bikes over to there. Then an airpark a few miles
    farther with huge wide roads, and if all goes well that Folsom South
    Canal trail where we'd have to truck the bikes to. I could ride there
    but too dangerous for him since it's on regular roads.

    --
    Regards, Joerg

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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  • From Joerg@21:1/5 to Joy Beeson on Mon Mar 10 12:26:32 2025
    On 3/9/25 7:31 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg
    <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    Fitting his bike with steel panniers and putting all cargo
    on his bike might help.


    :-)

    Not on the South Canal trail because that's all rather flat. That is the
    bike path where folks floor it in their Velomobiles. I was going 25mph
    and felt like king of the universe. Then ... whoosh ... one of those
    60lbs behemoths flew by. Later I saw the rider struggling to load the
    heavy beast into his truck and cycled over to the parking lot to help.
    "So how fast were you going when you passed me?" ... "Oh, not
    outrageaously fast, 40mph or so". He had a big old stereo system and all mounted in there.

    It looked like this:

    https://www.velomobile-nord.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/IMG_0547-1024x768.jpg

    --
    Regards, Joerg

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 10 15:50:28 2025
    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 12:12:00 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/9/25 7:45 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 09:33:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 3/9/2025 4:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:36:44 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in >>>>>>> this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is >>>>>>> athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no >>>>>>> problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed >>>>>>> to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe >>>>>>> ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem,
    that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite >>>>>>> passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in
    the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can
    remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of >>>>>>> traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we >>>>>>> have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted >>>>>>> speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't
    want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always >>>>>>> carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web >>>>>>> didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the
    progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other >>>>>>> questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic >>>>>>> transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for >>>>>>> electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes: >>>>>>>
    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves >>>>>>> me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living >>>>>> homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind >>>>>> of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose. >>>>>> Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a
    tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of >>>>> care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there. >>>>> Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease >>>>> doing that.

    +1
    Yes, it's the disease. My wife, who worked in assisted living homes as >>>> an activities director always said something like that. She's retired
    now and I'm eighty so neither of us are involved and almost all of the >>>> attachments we made have passed on but we still maintain contact with
    a couple residents. THis is one who didn't make it.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/with/53910283643

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    "didn't make it" ??
    You look mostly alive in your photos.

    Wrong reference.. Here's the right one.


    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/53971342104


    Getting Parkinson's that early is really hard :-(

    He'd been super active, had his own lawn maintenance business, raced motorbikes. At the home he used a motorized wheelchair with a joystick
    couldn't get out of it by himself, and needed a walker when out of it.
    I helped him onto the Catrike and he was a changed guy. He'd had
    trouble speaking, but soon he was taking my extra microphone and
    singing. I took up a collection for his own Catrike and convinced the
    local dealer sell it at cost. We'd go down the street to a park and
    scare all the locals off the path. He was able to get off it by
    himself and walk to the restroom and the food truck... no walker.

    State of mind has a lot to do with Parkinson's.... Then his asshole
    POA intervened. Makes me angry to think on it.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Joerg on Mon Mar 10 15:52:37 2025
    On 3/10/2025 2:18 PM, Joerg wrote:
    On 3/8/25 5:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 3/8/2025 4:43 PM, Joerg wrote:
    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have
    dementia, in this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very
    long walk together. He is athletic and used to be a
    powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no problems in
    the power and endurance domain. The disease has
    progressed to the point where he would become disoriented
    on the roads or maybe ride into freeway onramps and such.
    So he needs a companion. No problem, that would be me.
    When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite passive)
    eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and
    since we live in the hills this means trucking our bikes
    into the flatlands where you can remains in the same gear
    the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low
    amount of traffic and definitely not many pedestrians.
    About 20mi from here we have an almost perfect one that
    is about 15mi long and has no posted speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat
    MTB pedals, don't want to risk him not getting a foot out
    and fall (he is >70). I always carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches
    on the web didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is
    beneficial in slowing the progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there
    will be other questions, such as whether there is a road
    bike bike with automatic transmission. Maybe based on
    Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for electric MTB and
    maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes:

    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-
    automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I
    am and leaves me in the dust that could present a very
    different problem :-)


    I am not an expert.

    If you want to shift the bike alongside you, set it up
    with SRAM and mount the mini-lever pod on your bike, not his.

    https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/EC-AXS-POD-D1


    That's an idea. Looks like it may be Bluetooth, that would
    bridge 10-20ft.

    I'll see how the first ride goes, how secure he still is on
    the bike.
    There is one short but fairly flat wide bike path near where
    they live so we can walk the bikes over to there. Then an
    airpark a few miles farther with huge wide roads, and if all
    goes well that Folsom South Canal trail where we'd have to
    truck the bikes to. I could ride there but too dangerous for
    him since it's on regular roads.


    As always, I'd give it a go and see how you two interact for
    a ride or two before changing hardware.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Joerg@21:1/5 to Catrike Ryder on Mon Mar 10 15:41:41 2025
    On 3/10/25 12:50 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 12:12:00 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/9/25 7:45 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 09:33:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 3/9/2025 4:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:36:44 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in >>>>>>>> this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is >>>>>>>> athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no >>>>>>>> problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed >>>>>>>> to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe >>>>>>>> ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem,
    that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite >>>>>>>> passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in
    the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can
    remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of >>>>>>>> traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we >>>>>>>> have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted >>>>>>>> speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't
    want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always >>>>>>>> carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web >>>>>>>> didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the
    progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other
    questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic >>>>>>>> transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for >>>>>>>> electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes: >>>>>>>>
    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-)

    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living >>>>>>> homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind >>>>>>> of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose. >>>>>>> Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a
    tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of >>>>>> care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there. >>>>>> Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease >>>>>> doing that.

    +1
    Yes, it's the disease. My wife, who worked in assisted living homes as >>>>> an activities director always said something like that. She's retired >>>>> now and I'm eighty so neither of us are involved and almost all of the >>>>> attachments we made have passed on but we still maintain contact with >>>>> a couple residents. THis is one who didn't make it.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/with/53910283643

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    "didn't make it" ??
    You look mostly alive in your photos.

    Wrong reference.. Here's the right one.


    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/53971342104


    Getting Parkinson's that early is really hard :-(

    He'd been super active, had his own lawn maintenance business, raced motorbikes. At the home he used a motorized wheelchair with a joystick couldn't get out of it by himself, and needed a walker when out of it.
    I helped him onto the Catrike and he was a changed guy. He'd had
    trouble speaking, but soon he was taking my extra microphone and
    singing. I took up a collection for his own Catrike and convinced the
    local dealer sell it at cost. We'd go down the street to a park and
    scare all the locals off the path. He was able to get off it by
    himself and walk to the restroom and the food truck... no walker.


    Great! I don't think it would be that extreme in this case but if it can
    make his (probably few) remaining years more fun for him it's all worth it.


    State of mind has a lot to do with Parkinson's....


    That, and getting the dosage of Levodopa just right.


    ... Then his asshole
    POA intervened. Makes me angry to think on it.


    Luckily in this case his wife is all in when it comes to activities. The
    more the better. Of course like everything that comes with risks but
    life always does.

    I am also a POA but not here, it's for a Parkinson's case. Enabling the
    person affected to live life as best as they can is key. Just like what
    you did with Jimmy.

    --
    Regards, Joerg

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 10 18:49:54 2025
    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 15:41:41 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/10/25 12:50 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 12:12:00 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/9/25 7:45 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 09:33:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 3/9/2025 4:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:36:44 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 3/8/25 3:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Hyundai Elantra. On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 14:43:12 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

    In my volunteer work I sometimes deal with folks who have dementia, in
    this case Alzheimer's. Today we did a very long walk together. He is >>>>>>>>> athletic and used to be a powerful high-mileage road bike rider so no >>>>>>>>> problems in the power and endurance domain. The disease has progressed
    to the point where he would become disoriented on the roads or maybe >>>>>>>>> ride into freeway onramps and such. So he needs a companion. No problem,
    that would be me. When I suggested that his (otherwise now quite >>>>>>>>> passive) eyes began to gleam.

    Like in this paper he has lost the ability to shift and since we live in
    the hills this means trucking our bikes into the flatlands where you can
    remains in the same gear the whole ride:

    https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/cycling-dementia/

    We would stick to bike paths, preferably ones with a low amount of >>>>>>>>> traffic and definitely not many pedestrians. About 20mi from here we >>>>>>>>> have an almost perfect one that is about 15mi long and has no posted >>>>>>>>> speed limit:

    https://www.usbr.gov/mp/ccao/images/fsc-new.jpg

    I will also switch out his pedals from clip-in to flat MTB pedals, don't
    want to risk him not getting a foot out and fall (he is >70). I always
    carry a first aid kit.

    My question is, what else should I prepare for? Searches on the web >>>>>>>>> didn't reveal much, other than that cycling is beneficial in slowing the
    progress of such diseases.

    We'll see how the first rides go. If very well then there will be other
    questions, such as whether there is a road bike bike with automatic >>>>>>>>> transmission. Maybe based on Di2. They offer it but AFAIK only for >>>>>>>>> electric MTB and maybe it can be adapted to non-electric road bikes: >>>>>>>>>
    https://velo.outsideonline.com/ebike/shimano-introduces-automatic-di2-shifting/

    Of course, if the guy turns out to be a lot faster than I am and leaves
    me in the dust that could present a very different problem :-) >>>>>>>>
    I dealt with Alzheimer's people when I volunteered at assisted living >>>>>>>> homes. Some do well under supervision, but others don't, have a mind >>>>>>>> of their own and can be unpredictable. You know the guy so you choose. >>>>>>>> Might be a good case for a tandem.


    Thanks, Solomon. Unfortunately I or anyone around me don't have a >>>>>>> tandem. He is mild-mannered and listens well.

    I know it can be different. I volunteered in the memory care section of >>>>>>> care homes, mainly because hardly anyone else wanted to go in there. >>>>>>> Some folks can turn rather violent but it's not them, it's the disease >>>>>>> doing that.

    +1
    Yes, it's the disease. My wife, who worked in assisted living homes as >>>>>> an activities director always said something like that. She's retired >>>>>> now and I'm eighty so neither of us are involved and almost all of the >>>>>> attachments we made have passed on but we still maintain contact with >>>>>> a couple residents. THis is one who didn't make it.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/with/53910283643

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    "didn't make it" ??
    You look mostly alive in your photos.

    Wrong reference.. Here's the right one.


    https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_soloman/53971342104


    Getting Parkinson's that early is really hard :-(

    He'd been super active, had his own lawn maintenance business, raced
    motorbikes. At the home he used a motorized wheelchair with a joystick
    couldn't get out of it by himself, and needed a walker when out of it.
    I helped him onto the Catrike and he was a changed guy. He'd had
    trouble speaking, but soon he was taking my extra microphone and
    singing. I took up a collection for his own Catrike and convinced the
    local dealer sell it at cost. We'd go down the street to a park and
    scare all the locals off the path. He was able to get off it by
    himself and walk to the restroom and the food truck... no walker.


    Great! I don't think it would be that extreme in this case but if it can
    make his (probably few) remaining years more fun for him it's all worth it.


    State of mind has a lot to do with Parkinson's....


    That, and getting the dosage of Levodopa just right.


    ... Then his asshole
    POA intervened. Makes me angry to think on it.


    Luckily in this case his wife is all in when it comes to activities. The
    more the better. Of course like everything that comes with risks but
    life always does.

    I am also a POA but not here, it's for a Parkinson's case. Enabling the >person affected to live life as best as they can is key. Just like what
    you did with Jimmy.

    I wasn't a POA. I offered to take over but he was afraid. His POA was
    a long time friend and convinced him that he was spending too much
    money where he was living. I knew nothing about his finances, but I
    know he had money left when he died. I also knew nothing about his
    meds.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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