• Intercostal muscle strain..

    From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 18:48:10 2025
    Saw my doctor today about the pain I've been having on my right side.
    He thinks the problem is a strain on the muscles related to the rib
    cage, maybe the intercostals. He says my lungs and heart are Ok, but
    I'm scheduled for Xrays tomorrow to be sure. It's been bothering for a
    month or six weeks now, but having to cut my ride short yesterday was
    the proverbial last straw. I've been putting up with the discomfort
    because I worried that taking Aleve would allow me to make it worse.
    He says, take the Aleve and take it easy lifting the Catrike.

    Getting old is a bummer, but better than not getting old.

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to Shadow on Tue Mar 25 19:09:20 2025
    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 19:59:49 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 18:48:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:


    Saw my doctor today about the pain I've been having on my right side.
    He thinks the problem is a strain on the muscles related to the rib
    cage, maybe the intercostals. He says my lungs and heart are Ok, but
    I'm scheduled for Xrays tomorrow to be sure. It's been bothering for a >>month or six weeks now, but having to cut my ride short yesterday was
    the proverbial last straw. I've been putting up with the discomfort
    because I worried that taking Aleve would allow me to make it worse.
    He says, take the Aleve and take it easy lifting the Catrike.

    Getting old is a bummer, but better than not getting old.

    Rule of the thumb. If it hurts more when you breath in, it's
    muscle pain, and usually harmless. If it hurts more when you breath
    out be very careful. That is not good, specially if the pain is sharp
    and localized.
    But don't take that as 100%. There are always exceptions....
    []'s

    Breathing out doesn't make it hurt at all. Taking a deep breath in
    makes it hurt a little. It's movement and external pressure that
    really makes it hurt. Specifically, twisting my upper body as I lift
    the Catrike into the truck is what makes it hurt the worst. Lifting it
    doesn't hurt, but setting it down down on the ground does.

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    Soloman

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to Soloman@old.bikers.org on Tue Mar 25 19:59:49 2025
    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 18:48:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:


    Saw my doctor today about the pain I've been having on my right side.
    He thinks the problem is a strain on the muscles related to the rib
    cage, maybe the intercostals. He says my lungs and heart are Ok, but
    I'm scheduled for Xrays tomorrow to be sure. It's been bothering for a
    month or six weeks now, but having to cut my ride short yesterday was
    the proverbial last straw. I've been putting up with the discomfort
    because I worried that taking Aleve would allow me to make it worse.
    He says, take the Aleve and take it easy lifting the Catrike.

    Getting old is a bummer, but better than not getting old.

    Rule of the thumb. If it hurts more when you breath in, it's
    muscle pain, and usually harmless. If it hurts more when you breath
    out be very careful. That is not good, specially if the pain is sharp
    and localized.
    But don't take that as 100%. There are always exceptions....
    []'s
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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to Soloman@old.bikers.org on Tue Mar 25 20:47:31 2025
    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 19:09:20 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 19:59:49 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 18:48:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:


    Saw my doctor today about the pain I've been having on my right side.
    He thinks the problem is a strain on the muscles related to the rib
    cage, maybe the intercostals. He says my lungs and heart are Ok, but
    I'm scheduled for Xrays tomorrow to be sure. It's been bothering for a >>>month or six weeks now, but having to cut my ride short yesterday was
    the proverbial last straw. I've been putting up with the discomfort >>>because I worried that taking Aleve would allow me to make it worse.
    He says, take the Aleve and take it easy lifting the Catrike.

    Getting old is a bummer, but better than not getting old.

    Rule of the thumb. If it hurts more when you breath in, it's
    muscle pain, and usually harmless. If it hurts more when you breath
    out be very careful. That is not good, specially if the pain is sharp
    and localized.
    But don't take that as 100%. There are always exceptions....
    []'s

    Breathing out doesn't make it hurt at all. Taking a deep breath in
    makes it hurt a little. It's movement and external pressure that
    really makes it hurt. Specifically, twisting my upper body as I lift
    the Catrike into the truck is what makes it hurt the worst. Lifting it >doesn't hurt, but setting it down down on the ground does.

    If I had to bet, I'd say muscle. Might be a pinched nerve.
    []'s
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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to Shadow on Tue Mar 25 19:56:50 2025
    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:47:31 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 19:09:20 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 19:59:49 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 18:48:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:


    Saw my doctor today about the pain I've been having on my right side. >>>>He thinks the problem is a strain on the muscles related to the rib >>>>cage, maybe the intercostals. He says my lungs and heart are Ok, but >>>>I'm scheduled for Xrays tomorrow to be sure. It's been bothering for a >>>>month or six weeks now, but having to cut my ride short yesterday was >>>>the proverbial last straw. I've been putting up with the discomfort >>>>because I worried that taking Aleve would allow me to make it worse.
    He says, take the Aleve and take it easy lifting the Catrike.

    Getting old is a bummer, but better than not getting old.

    Rule of the thumb. If it hurts more when you breath in, it's
    muscle pain, and usually harmless. If it hurts more when you breath
    out be very careful. That is not good, specially if the pain is sharp
    and localized.
    But don't take that as 100%. There are always exceptions....
    []'s

    Breathing out doesn't make it hurt at all. Taking a deep breath in
    makes it hurt a little. It's movement and external pressure that
    really makes it hurt. Specifically, twisting my upper body as I lift
    the Catrike into the truck is what makes it hurt the worst. Lifting it >>doesn't hurt, but setting it down down on the ground does.

    If I had to bet, I'd say muscle. Might be a pinched nerve.
    []'s

    Thanks. My doctor thinks it's muscle, too. I'm going back tomorrow for
    X-Rays to be sure. My family members can stop worrying after that.

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    Soloman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to NFN Smith on Wed Mar 26 20:01:57 2025
    On 3/26/2025 7:29 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
    Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Thanks. My doctor thinks it's muscle, too. I'm going back
    tomorrow for
    X-Rays to be sure. My family members can stop worrying
    after that.

    I'm going to also lean toward muscle.

    I've been off the bike for more than a month when I did
    something to the psoas muscle that links my hip and back.
    For several days, it was really painful, even where I had to
    take some time off work. Even putting my socks on was pretty
    painful.

    I got a chiropractic adjustment on my back, which helped a
    little, and my primary physician gave me a cortisone shot,
    which didn't help.  What has made a difference is that I've
    done several sessions with a friend that is a medical (and
    board-certified) massage therapist.  In the process of going
    after the back and hip pain, we found a bunch of scar tissue
    in a couple of places in my shoulders, left over from a
    rollerblade fall I had more than 20 years ago.  Thus, I've
    had him working on that, as well, and there are several
    spots in my shoulders that are not nearly as tender as I'm
    used to experiencing them.

    Right now, I'm holding off on getting back on the bike or
    doing core strength exercises for another week or two, as we
    want to see if most of the therapy work has done what we
    want it to, or if there are points of tension returning.

    In the meantime, it might be worth seeing if you can get
    that looked at by a medically-certified massage therapist.

    Smith


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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 27 03:33:49 2025
    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 17:29:43 -0700, NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Catrike Ryder wrote:
    Thanks. My doctor thinks it's muscle, too. I'm going back tomorrow for
    X-Rays to be sure. My family members can stop worrying after that.

    I'm going to also lean toward muscle.

    I've been off the bike for more than a month when I did something to the >psoas muscle that links my hip and back. For several days, it was really >painful, even where I had to take some time off work. Even putting my
    socks on was pretty painful.

    I got a chiropractic adjustment on my back, which helped a little, and
    my primary physician gave me a cortisone shot, which didn't help. What
    has made a difference is that I've done several sessions with a friend
    that is a medical (and board-certified) massage therapist. In the
    process of going after the back and hip pain, we found a bunch of scar
    tissue in a couple of places in my shoulders, left over from a
    rollerblade fall I had more than 20 years ago. Thus, I've had him
    working on that, as well, and there are several spots in my shoulders
    that are not nearly as tender as I'm used to experiencing them.

    Right now, I'm holding off on getting back on the bike or doing core
    strength exercises for another week or two, as we want to see if most of
    the therapy work has done what we want it to, or if there are points of >tension returning.

    In the meantime, it might be worth seeing if you can get that looked at
    by a medically-certified massage therapist.

    Smith

    Thanks,
    As for a massage, pressure on the area is pretty painful. It was the
    pressure of leaning back on the recumbent bike that finally made me
    decide to see a doctor. I'd been going to a chiropractor once a month
    to get my spine stretched but with this pain the stretching really
    hurt.

    I'd not been taking Aleve believing the pain was a warning to not do
    things that made it hurt. My doctor says I should take the Aleve and
    go about my business.

    I'm planning to ride today, but being very careful when lifting the
    Catrike in and out of the truck, which is what I believe starting the
    whole thing. It's not that heavy, maybe 45 lbs, but it's awkward and I
    have to twist it around and hold it out in front of me. I have plans
    to make it easier for this 80 year old man to deal with it. I need to
    get started on it.

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to NFN Smith on Thu Mar 27 11:48:36 2025
    On 3/27/2025 11:32 AM, NFN Smith wrote:
    Catrike Ryder wrote:
    In the meantime, it might be worth seeing if you can get that looked at
    by a medically-certified massage therapist.

    Smith
    Thanks,
    As for a massage, pressure on the area is pretty painful. It was the
    pressure of leaning back on the recumbent bike that finally made me
    decide to see a doctor. I'd been going to a chiropractor once a month
    to get my spine stretched but with this pain the stretching really
    hurt.

    I get that, and it's not pleasant.

    However, I found that with the psoas, the guy who worked on me barely
    touched that particular spot, instead, working on other nearby muscles.
    In the case of the psoas, even if the point of pain was between my back
    and my hip, apparently it covers enough of the body that what
    constitutes "nearby" isn't necessary obvious to me as a layman.  He
    probed nearly the entire length of my leg, and well up into my back, and
    that was how we found the shoulder issues.  And with attention to the shoulder, we seem to have not only lowered longtime discomfort there,
    but possibly found the source of issues that I have had in my neck for
    years.

    My wife is a massage therapist. One thing people often misunderstand is
    that the pain they are experiencing might not be a result of any injury
    to the area that is feeling the pain, but that it may be due to the body
    trying to compensate for issues somewhere else. She's _really_ good at detecting issues in the body that seem unrelated to the issue her client
    is experiencing but by working on the "unrelated" issue, the problem the
    client is experiencing is resolved or a least easier to resolve.

    That sounds like what was happening in your case.



    As for drugs, I've done some with ibuprofen, and that has helped a
    little, as has been use of a mix of ice and heat.  I also have a prescription for a muscle relaxant, although I don't know if it really
    has done anything significant, so I didn't refill when the prescription
    ran out.

    Heat is good in small amounts for getting the muscle warmed up
    (especially at the beginning of the day), although I've found that applications of ice for no more than about 20 minutes definitely lowers
    the discomfort.

    Smith


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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 27 16:08:24 2025
    On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 08:32:24 -0700, NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Catrike Ryder wrote:
    In the meantime, it might be worth seeing if you can get that looked at
    by a medically-certified massage therapist.

    Smith
    Thanks,
    As for a massage, pressure on the area is pretty painful. It was the
    pressure of leaning back on the recumbent bike that finally made me
    decide to see a doctor. I'd been going to a chiropractor once a month
    to get my spine stretched but with this pain the stretching really
    hurt.

    I get that, and it's not pleasant.

    However, I found that with the psoas, the guy who worked on me barely
    touched that particular spot, instead, working on other nearby muscles.
    In the case of the psoas, even if the point of pain was between my back
    and my hip, apparently it covers enough of the body that what
    constitutes "nearby" isn't necessary obvious to me as a layman. He
    probed nearly the entire length of my leg, and well up into my back, and
    that was how we found the shoulder issues. And with attention to the >shoulder, we seem to have not only lowered longtime discomfort there,
    but possibly found the source of issues that I have had in my neck for
    years.

    As for drugs, I've done some with ibuprofen, and that has helped a
    little, as has been use of a mix of ice and heat. I also have a
    prescription for a muscle relaxant, although I don't know if it really
    has done anything significant, so I didn't refill when the prescription
    ran out.

    Heat is good in small amounts for getting the muscle warmed up
    (especially at the beginning of the day), although I've found that >applications of ice for no more than about 20 minutes definitely lowers
    the discomfort.

    Smith

    I put a heat pad on it yesterday. I'll probably do it again this
    afternoon. I rode 40 miles today and it didn't bother, so maybe it's
    getting better. I feel it a little right now in the recliner, so it's
    not completely healed.

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    Soloman

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