On Mon Mar 31 18:58:12 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/31/2025 3:56 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:42:52 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2025 11:04 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
Yes, Tom Kunich.
Does anyone else have this much trouble getting a front deraileur to >>>>> work?
People who do things are more likey to run into problems.
If they're competent, they run into few problems; and they tend to solve
them.
It's not 100% , of course. I had a B&M LED dynamo headlight begin
randomly blinking out on a night ride two days ago. It was infrequent
and very intermittent - half a second here, a full second there - but
disconcerting. The bike's on the workstand now, displaying the
intermittent problem.
I'm suspecting is a problem with the on/off switch, since among other
things, I can't switch the headlight off! Of course it's a sealed unit,
so opening it will require some commitment. I'm checking into warranty
first.
Only Frank can comapire a front derailleur with a dynamo.
On Mon Mar 31 11:04:27 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
My front shifting is still not working properly. I believe the problem
may be that my largest chain ring is a 50 tooth, rather than the old
53 tooth ring, which worked nicely with my original Microshift
derailleur. That old microshift derailleur did not back down enough to
accommodate downshifting to the small chain ring, either, I assume
because the Isis bottom bracket was narrower. The new Shimano
derailleur does not like shifting up the 50 tooth ring, so now I
ordered a Microshift derailleur that says it's made for a 50 tooth
chain ring.
Does anyone else have this much trouble getting a front deraileur to
work?
Far more likely that you're setting the front derailleur up improperly; You set the height of the nearest approach to the ring by the front derailleur at 2 mm above the ring tooth. Then you set the lower limit screw to keep the front derailleyr outeredge directly above the large ring and the lower limit with the chain in the 34-11 with sufficient clearance to keep the chain from rubbing against the derailleur cage. With the chain on the 50 tooth and maipulating the front derailleur by hand set the
Then fit the cable into the front derailleur and pull the shift wire tight with a good pair of pliers in your left had and tighten the lock screw being careful not to overtighten it and break the shift wire.
Early on they made special more tightly curved front derailleurs to fit the 50 ring but they soon discoverd that a "normalk" front deraiulleur cage worked just as well.
On Mon Mar 31 15:31:44 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:28:55 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 3/31/2025 10:04 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
My front shifting is still not working properly. I believe the problem
may be that my largest chain ring is a 50 tooth, rather than the old
53 tooth ring, which worked nicely with my original Microshift
derailleur. That old microshift derailleur did not back down enough to
accommodate downshifting to the small chain ring, either, I assume
because the Isis bottom bracket was narrower. The new Shimano
derailleur does not like shifting up the 50 tooth ring, so now I
ordered a Microshift derailleur that says it's made for a 50 tooth
chain ring.
Does anyone else have this much trouble getting a front deraileur to
work?
--
C'est bon
Soloman
In a mix-and-match system that could be tedious. Nothing
wrong inherently with combining your favorite brands BTW.
Set up the changer to be 2~3mm above the outer ring teeth at
the closest point.
Front changers for compact/triple are frequently optimized
for 48 outer, road sometimes for 53 outer. More than just
the curvature of the outer cage, the various lips and folds
of the inner plate are in different places and the outside
front tip is shaped differently. (that's a critical part as
it lands the chain on the ring).
Besides height, also check that the derailleur cage in in
the same plane as the chainrings when viewed from above.
Askew a couple of degrees will shift poorly.
If you think your system would shift better with wider
chainline, ISIS can have a spacer between RH cup and frame
face, 2mm or 3mm are common.
I tried a small spacer with the old Microshift unit and I got it to
downshift to the 30T, but now it still jams most of the time when
going up to the 50T. I manually put it on the 50T to ride so I'm good
until the new Microshift unit gets here. It say's it's specifically
for 9 sp 50,39,30 cranks and I'm 50,38,30... we'll see how it goes.
In the meantime, the 50T chain ring guard is due today, so I have that
to keep me out of the house.
I forgot you have a triple. Use this part:2B2rtF58F56wU5L5ukhRKB8JEV0Kgr16uhKtZVlDQABObgJ6IOZMJGA2Mpls8z8ilDkdxeQMHiPiSonYzii8s5d%2F%2BgzmxAqWHer%2FjSOqoB2dhHMkEUBePDVkq02vM%2FGnrdcDZu1k3qryim%2FBmEmZ5gO2%2Fh%2BtMnbq1aCVDUlnbwIplyH6VoRbDXy8Pa%2BHmQhcXe%2BwnOx%
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356065102304?_skw=Triple+Front+Derailleur&itmmeta=01JQS1JVAZ8X8ZBJ3W9FRNN016&hash=item52e72249e0:g:OKoAAOSwktZm7KT8&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1ef0RygptandtkrPu40%2FFNk2LTKDIy2BN%
The pastic part is to hold it in a position to place the outer place more or less in the proper position. It will probably hage to be adjusted anyway.
If you are jamming going into the 50, you either have the front derailleur too low or the outter limit screw is set too far out.
On Mon Mar 31 10:28:55 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 3/31/2025 10:04 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
My front shifting is still not working properly. I believe the problem
may be that my largest chain ring is a 50 tooth, rather than the old
53 tooth ring, which worked nicely with my original Microshift
derailleur. That old microshift derailleur did not back down enough to
accommodate downshifting to the small chain ring, either, I assume
because the Isis bottom bracket was narrower. The new Shimano
derailleur does not like shifting up the 50 tooth ring, so now I
ordered a Microshift derailleur that says it's made for a 50 tooth
chain ring.
Does anyone else have this much trouble getting a front deraileur to
work?
--
C'est bon
Soloman
In a mix-and-match system that could be tedious. Nothing
wrong inherently with combining your favorite brands BTW.
Set up the changer to be 2~3mm above the outer ring teeth at
the closest point.
Front changers for compact/triple are frequently optimized
for 48 outer, road sometimes for 53 outer. More than just
the curvature of the outer cage, the various lips and folds
of the inner plate are in different places and the outside
front tip is shaped differently. (that's a critical part as
it lands the chain on the ring).
Besides height, also check that the derailleur cage in in
the same plane as the chainrings when viewed from above.
Askew a couple of degrees will shift poorly.
If you think your system would shift better with wider
chainline, ISIS can have a spacer between RH cup and frame
face, 2mm or 3mm are common.
Ajdrew, is it true that Shimqano and Capagnolo 11 speeds have the same spacing between the cogws on the cassette?
On Tue Apr 1 15:59:11 2025 cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Mar 31 18:58:12 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/31/2025 3:56 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:42:52 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2025 11:04 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
Yes, Tom Kunich.
Does anyone else have this much trouble getting a front deraileur to >>>>>> work?
People who do things are more likey to run into problems.
If they're competent, they run into few problems; and they tend to solve >>> them.
It's not 100% , of course. I had a B&M LED dynamo headlight begin
randomly blinking out on a night ride two days ago. It was infrequent
and very intermittent - half a second here, a full second there - but
disconcerting. The bike's on the workstand now, displaying the
intermittent problem.
I'm suspecting is a problem with the on/off switch, since among other
things, I can't switch the headlight off! Of course it's a sealed unit,
so opening it will require some commitment. I'm checking into warranty
first.
Only Frank can comapire a front derailleur with a dynamo.
I don't mind topic drift. But Frank was avoiding the comments that he
made. Remember that Franik has a 6 speed freewheel vuje with a chain that wears forever and a front derailleur that can be set up by a 12 year old.
If he starts commenting about the incompetence of someone else he should
have the knowledge of the problem himself. Instead he changes the subject to dynamos.
I try to ignore Frank doing this but it is pretty difficult when he
doesn't know the first thing about a problem and tells us that asking questions about it proves incompetence.
The 11 speed Ultegra has an adjustment that when you are setting it up
you loosen it so that the cable lock will rotate out to where you can fit
the cable into the lock. In this position the front derailleur will not
shift into the large ring. If you tighten this 2 mm allen. It will then
shift properly. do you suppose that Frank knows all about that or would
he call anyone wanting to know why the Ultgra front derailleur doesn't
shift into the big ring with a tight cable incompetent? What's more there
is a dust cover over the lock screw that you have to know how to install properly.
So the whole point is not about topic drift, but Frank calling people
asking questions, incompetent when he hasn't the vaguest clue about the subject.
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