At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
with photos
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
On 4/5/2025 2:14 PM, AMuzi wrote:
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with keyboards,
leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just give up and
throw punches:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-
she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
with photos
I just love how you nearly always try to paint the political left as
being the instigators of violence.
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care >>> for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of >>> God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, itÂ’s the single issue aspect of it, ie >> do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that itÂ’s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem) >> what is womenÂ’s rights, and not one taken lightly itÂ’s a horrible thing to >> go through IÂ’m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with keyboards,
leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just give up and
throw punches:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment- she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
with photos
On 6 Apr 2025 13:11:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care >>>>> for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred. >>>>> All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of >>>>> God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without >>>>> life there is nothing.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it?s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so >>>> on?
Let alone the fact that it?s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem) >>>> what is women?s rights, and not one taken lightly it?s a horrible thing to >>>> go through I?m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
AbortionÂ’s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some >> time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly.
Roger Merriman
It depends on the length of the pregnancy. Here, "Business Girls" will
be seeing the doctor as soon as they miss a few days and while I never
asked them the details they never seem to miss more then a couple days
at work.
I just love how you nearly always try to paint the political left as
being the instigators of violence.
zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 2:14 PM, AMuzi wrote:
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with keyboards,
leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just give up and
throw punches:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-
she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
with photos
I just love how you nearly always try to paint the political left as
being the instigators of violence.
Indeed some of the, centers in uk have dispersal orders (posting in the advert breaks in Flanders) due to the behaviour of the anti lot.
It?s the idea that balance is between two points of view when it?s rarely that and can be 100% one side etc.
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it?s the single issue aspect of it, ie do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that it?s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem) what is women?s rights, and not one taken lightly it?s a horrible thing to
go through I?m told.
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care >>> for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of >>> God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without >>> life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so >> on?
Let alone the fact that it s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem)
what is women s rights, and not one taken lightly it s a horrible thing to
go through I m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
Abortion?s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly.
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
with photos
If she had only been wearing her helmet.........
On Sun Apr 6 13:11:26 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care >>>>> for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred. >>>>> All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of >>>>> God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without >>>>> life there is nothing.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, its the single issue aspect of it, ie >>>> do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so >>>> on?
Let alone the fact that its wishing to intervene (largely men would seem) >>>> what is womens rights, and not one taken lightly its a horrible thing to >>>> go through Im told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
Abortion?s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some
time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly.
Roger! Historectomies are FAR more unpleasant and yet 15% of the American female population voluntarily go through that procedure every yearf! Some from cancer but a great many of them for fear that they could get cancer.
By comparison an abortion is nothing.
On Sat Apr 5 18:59:49 2025 Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
Here in California girls will get pregnant just so they ccould kill the baby. During Obama it was an "in" thing. The media would paint them as heartbroken having to get rid of the baby. So heart broken that they would do it time and time again.
On 4/6/2025 2:26 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Apr 5 18:59:49 2025 Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
    To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-
moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
    I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
    Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
    More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
Here in California girls will get pregnant just so they ccould kill
the baby. During Obama it was an "in" thing. The media would paint
them as heartbroken having to get rid of the baby. So heart broken
that they would do it time and time again.
Amidst our very serious moral, legal and policy problems in this area,
that it not only wrong, it implies you haven't met many actual humans.
On Sun Apr 6 08:18:52 2025 zen cycle wrote:
I just love how you nearly always try to paint the political left as
being the instigators of violence.
On 6 Apr 2025 14:36:08 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 13:11:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred. >>>>>>> All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without >>>>>>> life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it?s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that it?s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem)
what is women?s rights, and not one taken lightly it?s a horrible thing to
go through I?m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
Abortion?s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some >>>> time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly.
Roger Merriman
It depends on the length of the pregnancy. Here, "Business Girls" will
be seeing the doctor as soon as they miss a few days and while I never
asked them the details they never seem to miss more then a couple days
at work.
Even so it will be rather brutal and frankly if they are regularly getting >> pregnant they will also be getting various sexually transmitted infections >> such as Aids.
Could someone in a desperate situation push through? Probably yes but they >> will still be bleeding and generally recovering for a few days/weeks.
Ie not something they would choose to do.
Roger Merriman
I don't know where you get your information but it is, to some extent
wrong. Abortion in the early days of a pregnancy results in no more
bleeding and pain the a normal "period". Or at least that is what Thai
and Japanese women have told me.
But having said that they also told me that in the later months it was
a much different story.
Currently, here in Thailand, a woman pregnant up to the 20th week can
get an abortion at the hospital of her choice simply by asking. Above 20,weeks it becomes much more complicates.
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care >>> for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of >>> God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it’s the single issue aspect of it, ie >>do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so >>on?
Let alone the fact that it’s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem) >>what is women’s rights, and not one taken lightly it’s a horrible thing to >>go through I’m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 19:58:50 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care >>>> for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of >>>> God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without >>>> life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it’s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so >>> on?
Let alone the fact that it’s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem)
what is women’s rights, and not one taken lightly it’s a horrible thing to
go through I’m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
The decision to do an abortion because you don't think your
child is going to get a chance to live happily.
I know dozens of women who have had abortions, and almost all
do not regret it. But it's a tough call.
[]'s
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 19:58:50 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care >>>> for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of >>>> God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without >>>> life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it’s the single issue aspect of it, ie >>>do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so >>>on?
Let alone the fact that it’s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem) >>>what is women’s rights, and not one taken lightly it’s a horrible thing to >>>go through I’m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
The decision to do an abortion because you don't think your
child is going to get a chance to live happily.
I know dozens of women who have had abortions, and almost all
do not regret it. But it's a tough call.
[]'s
On 4/7/2025 3:13 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 19:58:50 +0700, John B.
<slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuziInteresting way to put it as if the pro-life person did
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument
just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-
activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-
harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a
plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
not somehow care
for people already. The act of life and the making of
life is sacred.
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the
image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as
important since without
life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it’s the single
issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or
medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that it’s wishing to intervene
(largely men would seem)
what is women’s rights, and not one taken lightly it’s a
horrible thing to
go through I’m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
    The decision to do an abortion because you don't think
your
child is going to get a chance to live happily.
    I know dozens of women who have had abortions, and
almost all
do not regret it. But it's a tough call.
    []'s
What a way to see life. I hope these women you know are ok.
Mentally the toll of abortion is huge. The pro-abortion
folks never talk about it because it is such a deep wound.
Healing can happen but it takes a real dedicated discernment
of just why we are on this earth. There is nothing really
about it as a tough call except to take the child and love
it. Loving that child by bring it into the world even if the
mother lets someone else handle that part, is a grace. A
gift from God. The other side you never hear all the real
rotten stuff that goes on. A complete disservice to a woman
and degradation to somehow say abortion is ok
On Sun Apr 6 08:18:52 2025 zen cycle wrote:
I just love how you nearly always try to paint the political left as
being the instigators of violence.
Do you mean like a left wing judge ordering Trump to return a planeload of vicious and murderous gang members
Killing babies is NOT a point of view.
It is a prosecutable offense in any civilized society.
It took my step daughter 3 years to adopt a baby because they were being mudered.
And my step son was considering it when he was married to his fist wife before he found out that she was the neighborhood punch.
On Sat Apr 5 18:59:49 2025 Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
Here in California girls will get pregnant just so they ccould kill the baby.
During Obama it was an "in" thing.
The media would paint them as heartbroken having to get rid of the baby.
So heart broken that they would do it time and time again.
On Sun Apr 6 13:11:26 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >> >>>>Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care >> >>> for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of >> >>> God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without >> >>> life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 20:07:45 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>(and the rest went to /dev/null)
wrote:
On Sun Apr 6 13:11:26 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>> >>>>Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned.
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just
give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus?
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred. >>> >>> All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without >>> >>> life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it|||
Roger! Historectomies are FAR more unpleasant and yet 15% of the American female population voluntarily go through that procedure every yearf! Some from cancer but a great many of them for fear that they could get cancer. By comparison an abortion isnothing.
On 7 Apr 2025 17:44:55 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 14:36:08 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 13:11:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned. >>>>>>>>>>>
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just >>>>>>>>>>> give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus? >>>>>>>>>>>
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred. >>>>>>>>> All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it?s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that it?s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem)
what is women?s rights, and not one taken lightly it?s a horrible thing to
go through I?m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
Abortion?s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some
time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly.
Roger Merriman
It depends on the length of the pregnancy. Here, "Business Girls" will >>>>> be seeing the doctor as soon as they miss a few days and while I never >>>>> asked them the details they never seem to miss more then a couple days >>>>> at work.
Even so it will be rather brutal and frankly if they are regularly getting >>>> pregnant they will also be getting various sexually transmitted infections >>>> such as Aids.
Could someone in a desperate situation push through? Probably yes but they >>>> will still be bleeding and generally recovering for a few days/weeks.
Ie not something they would choose to do.
Roger Merriman
I don't know where you get your information but it is, to some extent
wrong. Abortion in the early days of a pregnancy results in no more
bleeding and pain the a normal "period". Or at least that is what Thai
and Japanese women have told me.
That’s not what the either the NHS information says, or what women who have
had an Abortion say, ie it’s not just a minor thing.
Do you think I'm making this stuff up? I'm not, I'm simple repeating
what I've been told by the girls that have had it done and as I've
said they tell me that its "no big deal" in the early months. But do
note the "early months" as I have also said "they also told me that in
the later months it was a much different story"
But having said that they also told me that in the later months it was
a much different story.
Currently, here in Thailand, a woman pregnant up to the 20th week can
get an abortion at the hospital of her choice simply by asking. Above
20,weeks it becomes much more complicates.
Not sure at what point or rather can’t remember but I’d imagine the last >> date would be fairly similar, bar medical exemption.
Perhaps because in the late 20's the fetus may be able to survive
outside the mother and thus can be thought of a "person" which might
raise all sorts of moral problems in a Buddhist society. However that
is just a supposition on my part..
On 7 Apr 2025 17:44:55 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 14:36:08 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 13:11:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with
keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned. >>>>>>>>>>>
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just >>>>>>>>>>> give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer
suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born?
Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus? >>>>>>>>>>>
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred. >>>>>>>>> All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it?s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that it?s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem)
what is women?s rights, and not one taken lightly it?s a horrible thing to
go through I?m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
Abortion?s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some
time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly.
Roger Merriman
It depends on the length of the pregnancy. Here, "Business Girls" will >>>>> be seeing the doctor as soon as they miss a few days and while I never >>>>> asked them the details they never seem to miss more then a couple days >>>>> at work.
Even so it will be rather brutal and frankly if they are regularly getting >>>> pregnant they will also be getting various sexually transmitted infections >>>> such as Aids.
Could someone in a desperate situation push through? Probably yes but they >>>> will still be bleeding and generally recovering for a few days/weeks.
Ie not something they would choose to do.
Roger Merriman
I don't know where you get your information but it is, to some extent
wrong. Abortion in the early days of a pregnancy results in no more
bleeding and pain the a normal "period". Or at least that is what Thai
and Japanese women have told me.
That’s not what the either the NHS information says, or what women who have
had an Abortion say, ie it’s not just a minor thing.
Do you think I'm making this stuff up? I'm not, I'm simple repeating
what I've been told by the girls that have had it done and as I've
said they tell me that its "no big deal" in the early months. But do
note the "early months" as I have also said "they also told me that in
the later months it was a much different story"
But having said that they also told me that in the later months it was
a much different story.
Currently, here in Thailand, a woman pregnant up to the 20th week can
get an abortion at the hospital of her choice simply by asking. Above
20,weeks it becomes much more complicates.
Not sure at what point or rather can’t remember but I’d imagine the last >> date would be fairly similar, bar medical exemption.
Perhaps because in the late 20's the fetus may be able to survive
outside the mother and thus can be thought of a "person" which might
raise all sorts of moral problems in a Buddhist society. However that
is just a supposition on my part..
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 20:16:10 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 4/7/2025 7:59 PM, John B. wrote:
On 7 Apr 2025 17:44:55 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 14:36:08 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 13:11:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with >>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just >>>>>>>>>>>>> give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer >>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born? >>>>>>>>>>>> Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos...
[]'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it?s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that it?s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem)
what is women?s rights, and not one taken lightly it?s a horrible thing to
go through I?m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
Abortion?s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some
time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly. >>>>>>>>
Roger Merriman
It depends on the length of the pregnancy. Here, "Business Girls" will >>>>>>> be seeing the doctor as soon as they miss a few days and while I never >>>>>>> asked them the details they never seem to miss more then a couple days >>>>>>> at work.
Even so it will be rather brutal and frankly if they are regularly getting
pregnant they will also be getting various sexually transmitted infections
such as Aids.
Could someone in a desperate situation push through? Probably yes but they
will still be bleeding and generally recovering for a few days/weeks. >>>>>>
Ie not something they would choose to do.
Roger Merriman
I don't know where you get your information but it is, to some extent >>>>> wrong. Abortion in the early days of a pregnancy results in no more >>>>> bleeding and pain the a normal "period". Or at least that is what Thai >>>>> and Japanese women have told me.
That’s not what the either the NHS information says, or what women who have
had an Abortion say, ie it’s not just a minor thing.
Do you think I'm making this stuff up? I'm not, I'm simple repeating
what I've been told by the girls that have had it done and as I've
said they tell me that its "no big deal" in the early months. But do
note the "early months" as I have also said "they also told me that in
the later months it was a much different story"
But having said that they also told me that in the later months it was >>>>> a much different story.
Currently, here in Thailand, a woman pregnant up to the 20th week can >>>>> get an abortion at the hospital of her choice simply by asking. Above >>>>> 20,weeks it becomes much more complicates.
Not sure at what point or rather can’t remember but I’d imagine the last
date would be fairly similar, bar medical exemption.
Perhaps because in the late 20's the fetus may be able to survive
outside the mother and thus can be thought of a "person" which might
raise all sorts of moral problems in a Buddhist society. However that
is just a supposition on my part..
I sincerely do not know how Buddhists define inception of
human life and I'm curious now, if you know.
For Christians, it's at conception but for Jews it's 'first
breath'. That's a huge difference as regards attitudes
toward abortion.
I am making no argument, just asking about Buddhist thought.
In Thailand anyway.
I don't know in detail but, for instance, if you buy live fish, to
eat, in the market you might ask the seller to kill them for you. Thus
while the fish was killed at your command you would not be seen as
causing the death.
But my nephew was a Monk for 5 years I'll ask him when I see him.
But religions are Strange, if that is the correct term. The perpetual virginity of Mary is a Christian doctrine that Mary, the mother of
Jesus, was a virgin "before, during and after" the birth of Christ.
Declared in AD 533 :-)
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:02:36 -0500, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/7/2025 10:03 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 20:16:10 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 4/7/2025 7:59 PM, John B. wrote:
On 7 Apr 2025 17:44:55 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 14:36:08 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 13:11:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> []'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it?s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that it?s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem)
what is women?s rights, and not one taken lightly it?s a horrible thing to
go through I?m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
Abortion?s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some
time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly. >>>>>>>>>>
Roger Merriman
It depends on the length of the pregnancy. Here, "Business Girls" will
be seeing the doctor as soon as they miss a few days and while I never
asked them the details they never seem to miss more then a couple days
at work.
Even so it will be rather brutal and frankly if they are regularly getting
pregnant they will also be getting various sexually transmitted infections
such as Aids.
Could someone in a desperate situation push through? Probably yes but they
will still be bleeding and generally recovering for a few days/weeks. >>>>>>>>
Ie not something they would choose to do.
Roger Merriman
I don't know where you get your information but it is, to some extent >>>>>>> wrong. Abortion in the early days of a pregnancy results in no more >>>>>>> bleeding and pain the a normal "period". Or at least that is what Thai >>>>>>> and Japanese women have told me.
That’s not what the either the NHS information says, or what women who have
had an Abortion say, ie it’s not just a minor thing.
Do you think I'm making this stuff up? I'm not, I'm simple repeating >>>>> what I've been told by the girls that have had it done and as I've
said they tell me that its "no big deal" in the early months. But do >>>>> note the "early months" as I have also said "they also told me that in >>>>> the later months it was a much different story"
But having said that they also told me that in the later months it was >>>>>>> a much different story.
Currently, here in Thailand, a woman pregnant up to the 20th week can >>>>>>> get an abortion at the hospital of her choice simply by asking. Above >>>>>>> 20,weeks it becomes much more complicates.
Not sure at what point or rather can’t remember but I’d imagine the last >>>>>> date would be fairly similar, bar medical exemption.
Perhaps because in the late 20's the fetus may be able to survive
outside the mother and thus can be thought of a "person" which might >>>>> raise all sorts of moral problems in a Buddhist society. However that >>>>> is just a supposition on my part..
I sincerely do not know how Buddhists define inception of
human life and I'm curious now, if you know.
For Christians, it's at conception but for Jews it's 'first
breath'. That's a huge difference as regards attitudes
toward abortion.
I am making no argument, just asking about Buddhist thought.
In Thailand anyway.
I don't know in detail but, for instance, if you buy live fish, to
eat, in the market you might ask the seller to kill them for you. Thus
while the fish was killed at your command you would not be seen as
causing the death.
But my nephew was a Monk for 5 years I'll ask him when I see him.
But religions are Strange, if that is the correct term. The perpetual
virginity of Mary is a Christian doctrine that Mary, the mother of
Jesus, was a virgin "before, during and after" the birth of Christ.
Declared in AD 533 :-)
She was in is and that is a statement of faith. You can believe it or
not. It might seem odd and strange and go against all the rules you >>normally know and understand, however God is beyond rules.
Here is another rule. You cannot go to the Christian God first. He must >>start the process since he is god all powerful. God must make the first >>move yet you have human freedom. My suggestion is to Study Aquinas he
was the master a long time ago.
So for 500 years Mary was not a virgin an suddenly became one?
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:02:36 -0500, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
She was in is and that is a statement of faith. You can believe it or
not. It might seem odd and strange and go against all the rules you >>normally know and understand, however God is beyond rules.
Here is another rule. You cannot go to the Christian God first. He must >>start the process since he is god all powerful. God must make the first >>move yet you have human freedom. My suggestion is to Study Aquinas he
was the master a long time ago.
So for 500 years Mary was not a virgin an suddenly became one?
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:02:36 -0500, Mark J clearyYour understanding of Catholicism and theology is quite telling. It
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/7/2025 10:03 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 20:16:10 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 4/7/2025 7:59 PM, John B. wrote:
On 7 Apr 2025 17:44:55 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 14:36:08 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 13:11:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2025 12:34:18 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 13:14:48 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Interesting way to put it as if the pro-life person did not somehow care
At least here on RBT we do beat a subject to death with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboards, leaving no aspect of any discussion unturned. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Elsewhere, those who fail to form compelling argument just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give up and throw punches:
To be fair, you can't argue with crazy.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/us-news/pro-life-activist-recalls-moment-she-was-punched-during-harlem-interview/
I'm interested in knowing if it worked. Did the pro-lifer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly start caring about people AFTER they were born? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Imagine less un-loved and abandoned children. Surely a plus? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
with photos
More interested in psych evaluations than photos... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> []'s
for people already. The act of life and the making of life is sacred.
All human life is sacred in that it is made in the image and likeness of
God. I am all pro-life there is nothing else as important since without
life there is nothing.
Without wishing to speak for Shadow, it?s the single issue aspect of it, ie
do they want to help or support family with kids or medical issues and so
on?
Let alone the fact that it?s wishing to intervene (largely men would seem)
what is women?s rights, and not one taken lightly it?s a horrible thing to
go through I?m told.
Roger Merriman
What's horrifying?
Abortion?s are deeply unpleasant for anyone to go through, and takes some
time to recover from. Not something people will choose lightly. >>>>>>>>>>
Roger Merriman
It depends on the length of the pregnancy. Here, "Business Girls" will
be seeing the doctor as soon as they miss a few days and while I never
asked them the details they never seem to miss more then a couple days
at work.
Even so it will be rather brutal and frankly if they are regularly getting
pregnant they will also be getting various sexually transmitted infections
such as Aids.
Could someone in a desperate situation push through? Probably yes but they
will still be bleeding and generally recovering for a few days/weeks. >>>>>>>>
Ie not something they would choose to do.
Roger Merriman
I don't know where you get your information but it is, to some extent >>>>>>> wrong. Abortion in the early days of a pregnancy results in no more >>>>>>> bleeding and pain the a normal "period". Or at least that is what Thai >>>>>>> and Japanese women have told me.
That’s not what the either the NHS information says, or what women who have
had an Abortion say, ie it’s not just a minor thing.
Do you think I'm making this stuff up? I'm not, I'm simple repeating >>>>> what I've been told by the girls that have had it done and as I've
said they tell me that its "no big deal" in the early months. But do >>>>> note the "early months" as I have also said "they also told me that in >>>>> the later months it was a much different story"
But having said that they also told me that in the later months it was >>>>>>> a much different story.
Currently, here in Thailand, a woman pregnant up to the 20th week can >>>>>>> get an abortion at the hospital of her choice simply by asking. Above >>>>>>> 20,weeks it becomes much more complicates.
Not sure at what point or rather can’t remember but I’d imagine the last
date would be fairly similar, bar medical exemption.
Perhaps because in the late 20's the fetus may be able to survive
outside the mother and thus can be thought of a "person" which might >>>>> raise all sorts of moral problems in a Buddhist society. However that >>>>> is just a supposition on my part..
I sincerely do not know how Buddhists define inception of
human life and I'm curious now, if you know.
For Christians, it's at conception but for Jews it's 'first
breath'. That's a huge difference as regards attitudes
toward abortion.
I am making no argument, just asking about Buddhist thought.
In Thailand anyway.
I don't know in detail but, for instance, if you buy live fish, to
eat, in the market you might ask the seller to kill them for you. Thus
while the fish was killed at your command you would not be seen as
causing the death.
But my nephew was a Monk for 5 years I'll ask him when I see him.
But religions are Strange, if that is the correct term. The perpetual
virginity of Mary is a Christian doctrine that Mary, the mother of
Jesus, was a virgin "before, during and after" the birth of Christ.
Declared in AD 533 :-)
She was in is and that is a statement of faith. You can believe it or
not. It might seem odd and strange and go against all the rules you
normally know and understand, however God is beyond rules.
Here is another rule. You cannot go to the Christian God first. He must
start the process since he is god all powerful. God must make the first
move yet you have human freedom. My suggestion is to Study Aquinas he
was the master a long time ago.
So for 500 years Mary was not a virgin an suddenly became one?
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 23:42:07 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 4/9/2025 9:56 PM, John B. wrote:
Lets not start a war here...
I thought starting wars was the main purpose of Usenet! ;-)
but my point was, and is, that for 500 yearsYou might be able to take that as a sign of hope. Apparently dogma can
Mary's condition was ignored and then suddenly she was declared a
virgin. And even more recently, in my youth probably the most common
"sin" to be confessed at Saturday Confession was eating meat on
Friday. 10 "Our Father's" and 20,"Hail Mary's" or no Communion on
Sunday and your mother asking why. Now, I read, it's not a sin except
during Lent.
change.
Some people praise science over religion because science adjusts to new
ideas. For example, "Atoms are made of protons, neutrons and electrons,
period!" Except "Oops, particlec says there's a lot more to it..."
Or "Force equals mass times acceleration ..." Except "Darn, relativity
says there's a lot more to it..."
Theology and religion have changed as well. Heck, it used to be that it
was immoral for Christians to charge interest on loans! You don't hear
much about that these days.
I anticipate other changes in the future - not that I'll necessarily be
around to see them.
Errr... science is one thing but the supposed "Word of God" is aThis is completely incorrect about the Infallibility of Pope. He is only infallible when speaking about Faith and Morals. Even then it is rare
different thing all together.
(In Catholic Dogma the Pope can basically invoke "God's Word" and then
say something that is considered infallible and considered God's
word.)
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