I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me
access to Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure
if news groups are even used anymore we seem to be a bunch
of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go
to Outlook but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all
using for your email program and getting the newsgroup.
Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do but maybe not for all
email.
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me access to
Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure if news groups are
even used anymore we seem to be a bunch of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go to Outlook
but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all using for your email
program and getting the newsgroup. Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do
but maybe not for all email.
On 4/20/2025 3:17 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me
access to Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure
if news groups are even used anymore we seem to be a bunch
of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go
to Outlook but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all
using for your email program and getting the newsgroup.
Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do but maybe not for all
email.
Thunderbird is not slow for me.
There was a decade or so when I considered myself as
informed as anyone on building, configuring, modifying and
repairing computes and in that time I wrote the software my
employees used for inventory tracking, customer sales
records, payroll and general ledger. That was very long ago
and I can't do much with modern systems now; we use a tech
service.
After a service call here last week I asked the tech about
girlfriend's laptop which I bought new just a few years ago.
He said laptops are prone to hard drive degradation which
will slow everything. I'm going to drop it off for analysis.
You might get an expert opinion on your own system
(including router and modem) before committing to Out House.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 4/20/2025 3:17 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me
access to Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure
if news groups are even used anymore we seem to be a bunch
of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go
to Outlook but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all
using for your email program and getting the newsgroup.
Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do but maybe not for all
email.
Thunderbird is not slow for me.
There was a decade or so when I considered myself as
informed as anyone on building, configuring, modifying and
repairing computes and in that time I wrote the software my
employees used for inventory tracking, customer sales
records, payroll and general ledger. That was very long ago
and I can't do much with modern systems now; we use a tech
service.
After a service call here last week I asked the tech about
girlfriend's laptop which I bought new just a few years ago.
He said laptops are prone to hard drive degradation which
will slow everything. I'm going to drop it off for analysis.
Hard drives physically seem to last decades even smaller laptop style
drives. Clearly they are a physical spinning disk, so have bearing and so
on.
Older file systems where prone to fragmentation ie data being stored in >multiple places which would slow I/O though more modern systems doesn’t
seem to be a thing.
Unless one is downloading binary’s Usenet is so data efficient I get the
You might get an expert opinion on your own system
(including router and modem) before committing to Out House.
feed at times when it will not load email let alone browse the web.
I’d expect that any network problems would manifest much more with data >intensive software such as streaming video or web browsing.
Not used a modern windows system for a while but I’d assume it has a task >manager that can display I/O of data and network plus memory and CPU
useage.
Roger Merriman
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me access to
Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure if news groups are
even used anymore we seem to be a bunch of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go to Outlook
but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all using for your email
program and getting the newsgroup. Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do
but maybe not for all email.
On 4/20/2025 4:17 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me access to
Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure if news groups are
even used anymore we seem to be a bunch of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go to Outlook
but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all using for your email
program and getting the newsgroup. Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do
but maybe not for all email.
If thunderbird is slow on your PC it isn't an issue with Thunderbird.
I'm running it on two laptops with no speed issues. The issues you're
running into are more likely with ES. It's a free service (donation
based) being managed by a small team for little money. The fastest/best
PC and internet connectivity aren't going to help with that.
Also, Outlook isn't a newsreader, so you won't be able to access RBT
with it, and besides a basic outlook email account is free. If you want >additional cloud storage, there's a fee.
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 09:39:56 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 4/20/2025 4:17 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me access to
Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure if news groups are
even used anymore we seem to be a bunch of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go to Outlook
but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all using for your email
program and getting the newsgroup. Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do >>> but maybe not for all email.
If thunderbird is slow on your PC it isn't an issue with Thunderbird.
I'm running it on two laptops with no speed issues. The issues you're
running into are more likely with ES. It's a free service (donation
based) being managed by a small team for little money. The fastest/best
PC and internet connectivity aren't going to help with that.
Also, Outlook isn't a newsreader, so you won't be able to access RBT
with it, and besides a basic outlook email account is free. If you want
additional cloud storage, there's a fee.
I use Eternal September with Forte Agent as a newsreader. I have no
issues with speed, but occasionally my Eternal September connection
simply shuts down. Usenet is not a high enough priority for me for
that to be a problem. I've got many, many other things to do.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 4/20/2025 4:17 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me access to
Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure if news groups are
even used anymore we seem to be a bunch of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go to
Outlook but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all using for your
email program and getting the newsgroup. Pretty sure Andrew is doing
what I do but maybe not for all email.
For newsgroup access, I use Thunderbird. It works fine for me. I've seen
no reason to use it for email, even though I could if I chose to.
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me access
to Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure if news
groups are even used anymore we seem to be a bunch of crazy old
cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go to
Outlook but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all using for
your email program and getting the newsgroup. Pretty sure
Andrew is doing what I do but maybe not for all email.
I use the News.individual.net (check link as it’s from memory) aka the
German server which is £10 a year and is fast and reliable which seems
worth not having to deal with the glitches etc for the free stuff.
Roger Merriman
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:17:36 -0500,
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me access
to Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure if news
groups are even used anymore we seem to be a bunch of crazy old
cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go to
Outlook but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all using for
your email program and getting the newsgroup. Pretty sure
Andrew is doing what I do but maybe not for all email.
I think zencycle is probably right that you can't use Outlook for
newsgroups. I do use it for pretty much all my e-mail, though I
still use PINE on some of my shell accounts as convenient.
For news, I am old school, using mainly slrn on my primary shell
account with panix. From time to time I'll look in with PhoNews
on my Samsung Android phone, but that's rare.
There are some good alternatives that run on Linux, but nothing I
would recommend for Windows, except maybe Thunderbird, which I haven't
used for a long time.
On 21 Apr 2025 14:46:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
I use the News.individual.net (check link as it’s from memory) aka the >>German server which is £10 a year and is fast and reliable which seems >>worth not having to deal with the glitches etc for the free stuff.
Roger Merriman
Agreed. I've been using individual.net for the last year: ><https://news.individual.net>
<https://news.individual.net/overview.php>
It's been quite reliable with only a few short outages. The price is
right at 10 Euros/year. One feature I really like is when I post a
message to a newsgroup, and then poll the server for new messages, my
message appears almost instantly. That verifies that my message
actually arrived at the server. This is in contrast to my previous
nightmare service, where my messages might appear up to an hour later,
or sometimes disappear for no obvious reason.
For a news reader, I've been using Forte Agent since the 1990's: ><https://www.forteinc.com>
<https://www.forteinc.com/agent/support.php>
Forte Agent is a fairly old news reader which has changed owners
several times over the years. Development stopped in approximately
2014. The company still accepts registration payments indicating that
they might still be alive.
There are some good alternatives that run on Linux, but nothing I
would recommend for Windows, except maybe Thunderbird, which I haven't
used for a long time.
On 4/21/2025 12:40 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:17:36 -0500,
Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to
go to Outlook but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all
using for your email program and getting the newsgroup.
Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do but maybe not for all
email.
I think zencycle is probably right that you can't use Outlook
for newsgroups. I do use it for pretty much all my e-mail,
though I still use PINE on some of my shell accounts as
convenient.
I need the paid version of Outlook because I use a POP/3
setting. This allows me to check email on all my devices but
they remain as shown unread on the any device I have not check
my email on. I like that setting because I look at email on my
iphone but then I like to check it again on the laptop.
Thunderbird does work fine really for email I just think
outlook would be more user friendly. It is not slow but seems
when retrieving mail to at times not be super fast about it. I
don't want to pay the $70. because really although not
expensive I don't want to give in to little things as they add
up if you keep that mentality.
On 4/20/2025 4:17 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
I am an old-school Thunderbird user still. It allows me access to
Eternal Sept to read this newsgroup. Not even sure if news groups are
even used anymore we seem to be a bunch of crazy old cyclist.
Thunderbird is good but slow and I would possible like to go to Outlook
but it will cost $70 a year. What are you all using for your email
program and getting the newsgroup. Pretty sure Andrew is doing what I do
but maybe not for all email.
For newsgroup access, I use Thunderbird. It works fine for me. I've seen
no reason to use it for email, even though I could if I chose to.
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