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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 14:49:11 2025
    On Thu May 1 22:43:36 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/1/2025 6:21 PM, cyclintom wrote:

    I am a real EE unlike Flunky so stop pretending that Flunky saying something means anything at all

    No, Tom, you were never a real EE. Based on your postings here, I don't
    think you'd have made it through the freshman level EE courses.





    Doesn't it make you feel terrible that several PhD's said I was an engineer and paid me much more than standatd engineering wages so that they could get my services? Meanwhile you couldn't work as an engineer and fell back on teaching at Youngstown,
    which is considered one of the worst places to live in the USA. That's a pretty bad label inasmuch as you're so close to Chicago and Detroit.

    Stop trying to pretend you know shit because you've never been a real engineer for one day in your life. Your idea of being an engineer is finding spelling errors. If I had a "freshman" EE instructor like you he would flunk me for spelling errors even
    though I've designed and programmed devices he couldn't even understand.

    The automatic transmission of water.gas ad electricity on my house and every other house served by PG&E are my desigjns. What have you EVER designed to production? I worked for the Army and NASA. I worked for both Gerkeley and Livermore Laurence
    radiation labs. What have you done you pesky little instructor? You think that working at the same place year after year doing the same thing over and over is a job and not hell. Why don't you display your diploma to us like Liebermann as if it were and
    accomplishment and not time lost from doing real work?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 15:03:25 2025
    On Thu May 1 17:34:52 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 5/1/2025 5:21 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu May 1 15:20:05 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:

    I?m slightly surprised he admitted he was taking it to the shop! I
    personally go for the how often am I likely to use said tools, can I
    reasonably do it? My ability to fix stuff is rather limited now as the
    brain doesn?t work the way it used to.

    And the bike shop is a 5 min walk away and being a shop that does repairs >> as their focus, it?s hardly expensive.




    Do you own a disc brake bike? The full set of tools for working on them from Park Tool is pretty damn expensive.

    https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Brake-Mount-Facing/dp/B014LC7546/ref=asc_df_B014LC7546?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=79852149837928&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583451676423827&psc=1

    That is only half the tools that they sell for disc brakes.

    So you think that because I have ONE flat mount disc brake bike that I am going to spend over $400 for surfacing tools?

    And my rim brake DeRosa Aluminum main triangle and the Disc Brake DeRosa Idol full carbon are exactly the same weight. So why would I even want to have a dic brake bike except as a test to see if flat surface mount disc bike is any better than the
    older offset disc brakes? The Merak has carbon wheels and stops a LOT better than the disc. The extra weight of the discs and the constant maintenance show me that they are only for pros and you might notice that manufacturers suddenly are building rim
    brake bikes again. Do you suppose that there may be a reason for that?

    Also, carbon fiber bikes were used BECAUSE they are light and not because they ride well. Tom Ritchey was interviewed and said that even 1 1/8th steering tubes screws up the comfort of a bike.

    Apparently I filed to be a tester for the Beta software so MY software is different than the stop software with some sort of error in the Average Speed calculation. I know the Beta software is correct because I timed it on a watch.

    I am a real EE unlike Flunky so stop pretending that Flunky saying something means anything at all

    Brake mount surface milling to ensure that it is in the
    correct plane is normal to a framebuilding operation but
    highly unusual in a service shop. In real life, it just is
    not a problem. Could it happen? Probably yes. Have I ever
    seen such? No.

    90% of disc brake issues are air in the system. The rest are
    mostly worn or contaminated pads




    Well, I never saw it before either. But I got that bike sent to me via FedEx for $400 complete. Don't you suppose that the former owner had a similar problem with it and was willing to sell it for a price that would not end up in a return?

    I will say this - those flat mounts are NOT machined. Both front and back are slightly rounded. And WHY would Park Tool make tools to machine those surfaces flat?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 16:05:28 2025
    On Thu May 1 18:30:30 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:


    lol...first off, dumbass, when you join a beta test program it doesn't
    make you a test engineer, it makes you a guinea pig.

    Secondly, Even Betaware has version update topology.

    third, you "apparently" joined the beta program? You don't remember
    doing it? Then you complain loudly in here that you were getting updates
    with no change in the displayed version?

    Fucking half-wit.>




    I'm surprised that you didn't tell us how you're so important to your company thst they couldn't care less what you do with your time.

    Perhaps you'd like to quote where I said that I was a "test engineer"? I said I was a beta tester which is something completely different, not that you would know.

    You, like Liebermann, are just another zero in a world of useful people.

    If they had a Beta designation why would my software have the standard version number? All that means is the programmers never thought to append an {A} onto the version.

    When you act like a clown, expect to be treated like one.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 16:50:55 2025
    On Fri May 2 12:04:03 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 11:32 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 2 04:39:00 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu May 1 15:20:05 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:

    I?m slightly surprised he admitted he was taking it to the shop! I
    personally go for the how often am I likely to use said tools, can I >>>> reasonably do it? My ability to fix stuff is rather limited now as the >>>> brain doesn?t work the way it used to.

    And the bike shop is a 5 min walk away and being a shop that does repairs
    as their focus, it?s hardly expensive.




    Do you own a disc brake bike? The full set of tools for working on them >>> from Park Tool is pretty damn expensive.

    I do and have done for decades MTBer remember we?ve used disks for quite a >> bit longer than roadies.

    https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Brake-Mount-Facing/dp/B014LC7546/ref=asc_df_B014LC7546?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=79852149837928&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583451676423827&psc=1

    That is only half the tools that they sell for disc brakes.

    So you think that because I have ONE flat mount disc brake bike that I am >>> going to spend over $400 for surfacing tools?

    In unsurprising news I agree with Andrew that disk brakes are air in the >> system or contaminated pads, mostly they just work for years.

    And my rim brake DeRosa Aluminum main triangle and the Disc Brake DeRosa >>> Idol full carbon are exactly the same weight. So why would I even want to >>> have a dic brake bike except as a test to see if flat surface mount disc >>> bike is any better than the older offset disc brakes? The Merak has
    carbon wheels and stops a LOT better than the disc. The extra weight of >>> the discs and the constant maintenance show me that they are only for
    pros and you might notice that manufacturers suddenly are building rim >>> brake bikes again. Do you suppose that there may be a reason for that? >>>
    Also, carbon fiber bikes were used BECAUSE they are light and not because >>> they ride well. Tom Ritchey was interviewed and said that even 1 1/8th >>> steering tubes screws up the comfort of a bike.

    Apparently I filed to be a tester for the Beta software so MY software is >>> different than the stop software with some sort of error in the Average >>> Speed calculation. I know the Beta software is correct because I timed it on a watch.

    Beta software appears is also for the 830 not being updated as well the 830
    is a generation behind likely to be two this year ish as the 850 is due. >>
    But either way beta or not, had updates in years.

    I am a real EE unlike Flunky so stop pretending that Flunky saying
    something means anything at all

    Going back to other claims doesn?t strengthen your argument!




    Roger, I didn't have problems with previous disc brakes which includes 29ers. But they all had those mounts that you installed on the stay mounts and which held the disc actuators pretty far off of the stays. I imagine that there was enough flex in
    those so that they would flex over into the correct correlation with the disc if they weren't perfectly aligned. Every other disc bike I had would brake too hard - they ALL could lift the rear wheel if you weren't careful with the front disc.

    Rim brakes do that too, dumbass.


    Whatever would cause you to say that mine would too after I just said that it wouldn't?

    Now it turns out that somehow I must have gotten registered for the Beta software

    "must have gotten registered for beta software"...Sure sparky, it
    happened spontaneously, just like the dent popped out of your top tube.


    and you're going to argue about that despite knowing nothing about it?

    Everything he's written about Garmin firmware updates has been accurate.
    You? notsomuch....

    I SAID that I had a software update and it caused a major change in average speed. WHY would you argue about that?

    Because if it happened to you it would have happened to everyone. It
    would have been all over the user forums. (news flash: it ain't)

    The NUMBERS changed and you say that they didn't?

    He never wrote that.


    Please don't talk about software updates if you aren't a software engineer.

    Why not, you do it all the time and you're not a software engineer.


    Microsoft usually changes the version numbers with an automatic process but small time devices do not.

    oh dear gawd...More proof that you aren't and never were a software
    engineer.


    What's more, the senior software engineers who are likely to take the updating process seriously were probably promoted to the Garmin smart watches and jr. software engineers who might not remember the proper updating procesidure are left writing
    beta software. They obviously know what they are doing but that doesn't mean that they get not very important things like the version numbers correct. Such as - though a Beta Release, my software still has the last release update numbering.

    And more proof that you were never a software engineer.
    - There's no such thing as "writing beta software". Software development
    is software devlopment. sometimes it goes though a beta cycle, but there
    is no such thing as specifically writing beta software, much less
    leaving development up to junior engineers.
    - The revision control process is managed through a combination of the compiler tools and configuration management processes, and for large companies like Garmin the compilers are tied into a PLM system. There is virtually no way for a version of code - beta, development, or not - to
    ever leave Garmin without proper revision control and tracking with
    updated revision topology.


    I would expect that sort of behavior from Flunky since he is a complete moron, but until recently you've always seemed intelligent enough.

    lol...this from a guy who thinks junior software engineers are in charge
    of "writing beta software".




    Actually it was just like your claim that you can't use PWM to measure line length and then joyfully agreed with Liebermann that that test instrument did it properly. And if you had enough education to read an oscilloscope you could see that that
    instrument was using PWM. Please stop trying to look smart when your employers expect you to do nothing but sign paperwork.

    And this from a moron that doesn't even know that beta software is an improvement and not a new program. So, yes, beginning software engineers CAN improve a program. Tell us again that you know how to program. Everyone just believes you.

    At least you can write lol even though the first "l" should have been capitalized

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 17:48:52 2025
    On Thu May 1 18:25:37 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/1/2025 5:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu May 1 06:33:01 2025 zen cycle wrote:
    On 4/30/2025 2:39 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:


    Perhaps I misunderstand you b ut it appears that I described the symptoms
    of a problem and you said it wasn't so. If it wasn't so why would I put >>>> the bike in the best shop (also the most expensive)?

    HE isn't saying you don't have a problem, dumbass, he's saying it
    wouldn'tbe for the reasons you described.


    To get a noticeable reduction in power from disks by being misaligned let >>> alone as significant as you said would require a massive amount of
    misalignment, and frankly would bind the rotor well before that point.

    true. and the brakes might not perform as well but there would still be
    plenty of power.


    Noise and lack of power are absolutely indicative of pads that are
    contaminated, which is disks one real weakness, do need to be much more >>> careful about oils near them, unlike rim brakes.

    Tommy has repeated complained in the last few months about challenges
    bleeding the brakes. The more likely scenario is that he has air in the
    line.


    That is as bad as you telling me that Garmin hadn't updated their
    software after I got a notification to update it, did so, and there was a
    major change in the average speed which showed a 2 mph increase in
    average speed. It was your contention that if the version number didn't >>>> change, the software didn't change. In an ideal world you would be
    correct. But with people like Flunky claiming to be EE's we quite
    obviously are not in an ideal world.



    I have absolutely the same Garmin by all means find the Garmin update on >>> their website! You will not as like a few things you?re confabulating
    stuff.

    If it were true that an update not only didn't change the displayed
    version but also resulted in a 2 mph increase in peoples average speeds, >> it would have been all over the Garmin user forums.

    News flash, it isn't. There isn't a company on the planet with any even
    halfway reasonable reputation that pushes updates with no version
    change. Maybe tommy in his illustrious career made software/firmware
    changes and released the code without changing the revision, but such
    practices are limited to only the hackiest of hacks or those with
    malicious intent. Tommy isn't smart enough to release workable code with >> malicious intent.

    What happened was tommy figured out how to enable the autostop function
    (after repeatedly insisting there was no such feature). This would
    inherently increase the average speed. Of course, tommy would never
    admit that he was using it wrong, only that some other mystical event
    outside the realm of temporal possibilities (such as a riding a dent out >> of his top tube) was responsible.

    What's going to happen is that tommy will report back that there was
    some sort of severe misalignment of the caliper mount and that the shop
    had to re-machine the surface, Or maybe the caliper itself had some sort >> of manufacturing defect where they drilled the mount incorrectly, or
    maybe he the pads were the wrong ones even though they were marked with
    the correct part number, and everything works now. IOW - it will never
    be tommy's fault. If it is a case of the more likely scenario where he
    didn't bleed them properly, he would never admit it.




    Flunky - you don't know shit about disc brakes. Why are you commeenting on it?

    Evidently I know quite a bit more about them than you do, since I've
    never had to take mine to a shop and never had any issues with their performance.


    You're the idiot that was so slow that you didn't need to look down at friction shifters because it didn't make any difference if you fumbled around trying to find the lever and position.

    You're the idiot that insists all racers always looked down to shift.
    I've posted links to have a dozen videos showing they didn't.


    I said that my software was different and it turns out it was.

    How would you know if they didn't change the version number?

    I am very familiar with disc brakes and crashed several times because of the excess power they have.

    That's because you're an idiot with the riding skills of an 8 year old girl*

    You've never had a disc brake bike and as usual tell us all about them.

    I have three bikes with disc brakes. MY Cannondale Habit came with
    Shimano Deore XT, which I swapped out for Sram G2. My CX bike and my
    hardtail IF have Avid BB7s.

    *I take that back. 8 year old girls have better riding skills than you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aav7J_S9ji0




    Why you're really impressive. I am wrong for seeking professional help with the proper tooling. Is there even one intelligent thing you can say?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 18:01:26 2025
    On Thu May 1 20:14:41 2025 zen cycle wrote:

    If there was a firmware update that resulted in a 2mph increase, you
    wouldn't have been the only one to see it, and it would have been all
    over the user forums. IOW - once again, you have no fucking clue what
    your ranting about.




    Busy telling us how much you know about beta releases? By all means tell us how many people filed for the beta release and how many are like you who showed us that you did TWO 200 mile rides with climbing and averaged 20 mph. It must really make you feel
    bad to be so full of it that evenyour employer bwants nnothinfg from you but the occasional signature aon a QC form.` ~Your boss walking by, seeing you watching a ball game during business hours and asking the score says everything about you that needs
    to be known.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 14:52:18 2025
    On Fri May 2 17:19:51 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 1:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu May 1 19:42:05 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    No such thing as a beta tester masquerading as a test engineer and
    it's not YOUR software.

    Perhaps it would help if you read something about how the beta test
    program actually works. Then, you can adjust your assertions to be
    more aligned with reality:

    Garmin's New Beta Platform Explained & How-To Sign-Up
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA2fvIMbEo8> (6:44) (May 24, 2022)
    "Over the last few weeks Garmin has been rolling out a new beta
    program, which aims to streamline the process of trying out beta
    features, while also making it easier to file bug reports for issues
    that you find."

    Introducing the new Public Beta Program
    <https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-830/312916/introducing-the-new-public-beta-program>

    How to enroll for Public Beta Program:
    <https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/w/beta-wiki/112/how-to-enroll-for-public-beta-program>

    Public Beta Reports:
    <https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/edge-530-830-1030-series/beta/>




    Jeff, you really get tiresome. I'm sure that Flunky and Krygowski will say that those addresses work fine for them when they do not and cannot...

    :-) This is hilarious!

    Yes, Tom, I _will_ say that those URLs work perfectly for me. Why?
    Because as usual, they do!

    I don't know what keeps you from following simple internet links. I'll
    just note that yet again, it's just _you_ blathering on about how
    brilliant you are, with everyone else proving otherwise. Why are you so intent on proving yourself to be a fool? Is your posting some weird form
    of self-flaggelation?




    I don"t know in what world you live since that appended ">" changes the address. But then you're absolutely willing to live in a hell hole and tell me that I live in a hell hole and tell everyone that the incorrect address works just fine with you.
    Plainly, the oinly reason that you got a job at YU was because no one else would work in that burned out humk of a city. You couldn't be employed anywhere else.

    TRell us again how the inxorrect address works.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 14:56:18 2025
    On Fri May 2 14:35:11 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 1:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu May 1 19:42:05 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:47:55 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Now it is possible that the manaqement software had a problem and it didn't ask me to update. But then the updating dates are all wrong. It does not show me as updating the 830 firmware in March 30, 2025.

    Well, since you're an official beta tester, you should bug report the
    non-appearance of your update problem to Garmin.

    What it DOES show is that I am a beta software tester so I have the BETA software as a test engineer (though they haven't asked me about it). That means that MY software is NOT the last Garmin update at all but a newer version

    No such thing as a beta tester masquerading as a test engineer and
    it's not YOUR software.

    Perhaps it would help if you read something about how the beta test
    program actually works. Then, you can adjust your assertions to be
    more aligned with reality:

    Garmin's New Beta Platform Explained & How-To Sign-Up
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA2fvIMbEo8> (6:44) (May 24, 2022)
    "Over the last few weeks Garmin has been rolling out a new beta
    program, which aims to streamline the process of trying out beta
    features, while also making it easier to file bug reports for issues
    that you find."

    Introducing the new Public Beta Program
    <https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-830/312916/introducing-the-new-public-beta-program>

    How to enroll for Public Beta Program:
    <https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/w/beta-wiki/112/how-to-enroll-for-public-beta-program>

    Public Beta Reports:
    <https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/edge-530-830-1030-series/beta/>




    Jeff, you really get tiresome. I'm sure that Flunky and Krygowski will say that those addresses work fine for them when they do not and cannot since they have a trailing ">" that changes the address to something that does not exist. Nothing more than
    proof that they are wi8lling to lie at the drop of a hat.

    You simply cannot stop yourself from talking about everything you know noyhing about. Does itreally make you feel that good being a fool?

    Considering the fact that you fucked up you browser installation so bad
    that it can't follow links that work for everyone else should make you
    really proud.




    Considering the fact that you work for people that don't give a damn what you do as long as you sign the paperwork tells us just how important your job is. Tell us again how appending a ">" to the end of an adess makes it the same address? You claim to
    be an EE who can program should have no problem answering that.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 18:47:11 2025
    On Mon May 12 14:07:00 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 10:44 AM, cyclintom wrote:

    When was the last time you were in Youngstown, Liebermann?

    How about you, Tom? ;-)




    Why is it that you couldn't read my original post on this subject? Or didn't you notice where I said that those articles were All opinions.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 18:51:30 2025
    On Mon May 12 14:07:00 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 10:44 AM, cyclintom wrote:

    When was the last time you were in Youngstown, Liebermann?

    How about you, Tom? ;-)




    Tell me the last time you owned a disc brake bike? What's the title on this thread? Do actually know anything at all about disc brakes on bicycles?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 18:55:20 2025
    On Mon May 12 11:53:05 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/11/2025 7:51 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun May 4 09:51:50 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 06:53:05 -0400, zen cycle
    <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 10:56 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 2 14:35:11 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 1:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu May 1 19:42:05 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:47:55 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    Now it is possible that the manaqement software had a problem and it didn't ask me to update. But then the updating dates are all wrong. It does not show me as updating the 830 firmware in March 30, 2025.

    Well, since you're an official beta tester, you should bug report the >>>>>>> non-appearance of your update problem to Garmin.

    What it DOES show is that I am a beta software tester so I have the BETA software as a test engineer (though they haven't asked me about it). That means that MY software is NOT the last Garmin update at all but a newer version

    No such thing as a beta tester masquerading as a test engineer and >>>>>>> it's not YOUR software.

    Perhaps it would help if you read something about how the beta test >>>>>>> program actually works. Then, you can adjust your assertions to be >>>>>>> more aligned with reality:

    Garmin's New Beta Platform Explained & How-To Sign-Up
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA2fvIMbEo8> (6:44) (May 24, 2022) >>>>>>> "Over the last few weeks Garmin has been rolling out a new beta >>>>>>> program, which aims to streamline the process of trying out beta >>>>>>> features, while also making it easier to file bug reports for issues >>>>>>> that you find."

    Introducing the new Public Beta Program
    <https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-830/312916/introducing-the-new-public-beta-program>

    How to enroll for Public Beta Program:
    <https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/w/beta-wiki/112/how-to-enroll-for-public-beta-program>

    Public Beta Reports:
    <https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/edge-530-830-1030-series/beta/>




    Jeff, you really get tiresome. I'm sure that Flunky and Krygowski will say that those addresses work fine for them when they do not and cannot since they have a trailing ">" that changes the address to something that does not exist. Nothing more
    than proof that they are wi8lling to lie at the drop of a hat.

    You simply cannot stop yourself from talking about everything you know noyhing about. Does itreally make you feel that good being a fool?

    Considering the fact that you fucked up you browser installation so bad >>>>> that it can't follow links that work for everyone else should make you >>>>> really proud.




    Considering the fact that you work for people that don't give a damn what you do as long as you sign the paperwork tells us just how important your job is.

    Important enough for them to keep me on for over ten years now and pay >>> me a lot of money to do it.

    Tell us again how appending a ">" to the end of an adess makes it the same address? You claim to be an EE who can program should have no problem answering that.

    Considering I haven't explained it to you yet I wouldn't be able to tell >>> you 'again', but the answer is simple - it doesn't. First off, Jeffs
    link didn't simply put a angle bracket at the end, it put an angle
    bracket at the beginning also.

    Yep. The angle brackets don't work as delimiters unless there is a
    matched pair of angle brackets.

    Secondly, any browser app will look at
    the link and exclude the common characters like brackets or quotes and >>> extract the link. All of these examples will work with a simple mouse
    click (possible a crtl+click in some mail apps)

    "https://businessjournaldaily.com/youngstown-ranked-as-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-us/"
    [https://byjus.com/physics/pulse-width-modulation/]
    <https://www.hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/>


    https://businessjournaldaily.com/youngstown-ranked-as-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-us/"
    https://byjus.com/physics/pulse-width-modulation/]
    https://www.hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/>


    "https://businessjournaldaily.com/youngstown-ranked-as-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-us/
    [https://byjus.com/physics/pulse-width-modulation/
    <https://www.hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/

    All those work as expected using Forte Agent. However, one of the
    purposes of the angle brackets is to deal with spaces and special
    characters in the middle of a URL. That's also the reason that online
    news services replace spaces with "-" dash characters in the URL. For
    example, trying to use double quotes to deal with blanks results in
    non-functional URL's like these:

    "https://www.hvtechnologies.com/the basics of time domain
    reflectometry tdr"

    https://www.hvtechnologies.com/"the basics of time domain
    reflectometry tdr"

    The angle brackets also prevent the spelling checker in Forte Agent
    from attempting to spell check words in the URL. It will correctly
    ignore spelling issues in anything that starts with http or https and
    which is properly delimited by angle brackets. Without these, Forte
    Agent will try to spell check everything after the first space in the
    URL.

    Unless you're tommy who somehow managed to fuck up a default browser
    intsallation app.

    Tom is not using a browser. There's no line in the header identifying
    the software in any of his postings. For example:
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    is mising. Instead, he's probably using the news reader from his NNTP
    service (Newshosting.com).
    <https://www.newshosting.com/newsreader/>
    Another indication that he's using their news reader is the mess it
    makes dealing with upper/lower case replies such as:
    Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Disc's without power

    And even if it is somehow screwing up the address:
    - it should be simple enough for you to copy the link and remove the
    brackets
    - why is it only happening to you?




    https://moneyinc.com/50-worst-places-to-live-in-the-u-s/

    9th worst place to live in America - Youngstown, OH. Maybe you forget Frank getting his armer on to ride through Youngstown?

    Pictures like that don't really tell a story and it is entirely opinion.

    Yes, you linked an opinion piece. Here's a fact-based pace

    https://businessjournaldaily.com/youngstown-ranked-as-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-us/




    Another person who cannot read. Does illiteracy run in your family. Or do you just like the feel of Polish ass on your lips?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 22:20:31 2025
    On Mon May 12 11:51:20 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/11/2025 2:08 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon May 5 12:59:49 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:

    brackets
    - why is it only happening to you?

    Becase you don't ride so nothing happens to you. You and Frank are alike andput in 5 miles a year.And then talk about riding as if you actually did it.

    Sure sparky..Internet links work for us because we don't ride bikes.
    There's some kunich-logic if I ever heard it.

    That point notwithstanding....

    https://www.strava.com/athletes/16053273

    2025:
    Activities - 34
    Distance - 709.4 mi
    Elev Gain - 39,112 ft
    Time - 39h 28m (Avg speed ~ 21)

    2024:
    Activities - 126
    Distance - 2,847.1 mi
    Elev Gain - 160,297 ft
    Time - 165h 18m (avg speed ~17 mph)




    So that gives you bragging rights to what exactly? A third of the mileage I had in 2021 and a sixth of the climbing?

    Despite having a stroke I have put 158 in more miles than you and 15,000 feet less than you and that despite our hill roads being repair less than a month.

    And considering that amount of climbing I don't believe that riding time or average speed for one second. I think thst you throw the bike on the car, Turn your Garmin or whatever on, drive to the start of your group ride, do the ride and then drive home
    and turn your Garmin off and log your ride. There is no way on Earth that a man who finishes 5 minutes behind the Cat 3 winner can average half that speed.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 22:37:11 2025
    On Mon May 12 14:48:29 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 2:40 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon May 12 14:05:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 8:48 AM, AMuzi wrote:

    AI for that's pathetic.
    I use the various realty web sites regularly (how far from customer is a >>> competent LBS? Is that a residential address for freight billing?).

    Mr Krygowski's neighborhood for example:

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Poland_OH/show-newest- >>> listings

    I'm currently vacationing in an area where Zillow shows houses smaller
    than mine, on lots maybe one quarter the size of mine, estimated at over >> a million dollars.

    I prefer where I live, thanks.

    Liebermann and Flunky both prefer to live where they do. So what? The Golden State has been destroyed by the Democrats and if they said that if elected they would execute you, you would be the first one at the polls to elect them.

    Two ways that seems odd:

    First, I'm currently in The Golden State. Nice weather and scenery, but
    lots of density and traffic. Most people here seem quite content. I
    don't see people rushing to get away.

    Second, I like where I live quite a lot, so I have no plans to move.
    You, Tom, routinely complain about living in a hell hole that's been "destroyed," even while bragging about being wealthy.

    Why continue living in your misery? Move! Or at least, quit whining.




    Perhaps you can explain why, since Newsome has taken office, there has been a population loss of over 20,000 citizens net and ALL people with money? He is presently about to chase 2 refineries out of the state which will end up almost doubling the cost
    of gas. I am not in misery. My investments are safe and I pay no taxes lust like the illegals here. Prop 13 protects mefrom excess property taxes and tourists like you pay the overwhelming amount of sales taxes. Stick around until you pay $2,000 to fly
    back home.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 22:40:56 2025
    On Mon May 12 14:53:25 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 2:40 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon May 12 14:05:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 8:48 AM, AMuzi wrote:

    AI for that's pathetic.
    I use the various realty web sites regularly (how far from customer is a >>> competent LBS? Is that a residential address for freight billing?).

    Mr Krygowski's neighborhood for example:

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Poland_OH/show-newest- >>> listings

    I'm currently vacationing in an area where Zillow shows houses smaller
    than mine, on lots maybe one quarter the size of mine, estimated at over >> a million dollars.

    I prefer where I live, thanks.




    Liebermann and Flunky both prefer to live where they do. So what? The Golden State has been destroyed by the Democrats and if they said that if elected they would execute you, you would be the first one at the polls to elect them.

    Destroyed enough to overtake Japan as the worlds 4th largest economy....




    Psst - we used to be the largest economy in the world on a per capita basis. Tell us more about your wealth.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 22:46:01 2025
    On Mon May 12 12:05:58 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/11/2025 12:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue May 6 06:18:07 2025 zen cycle wrote:


    He does pretty well with that on his own.




    Flunky, you've alreqdy told us that your boss doesn't give a shit what you do.

    I did? Where did I write that?

    So the oinly thing you do is sign things.

    It's not surprising someone like you would make an absurd assumption
    like that.

    With that sort of experience your ability to deduce things is questionable at best.

    I think my logic stands up to yours quite well, mr "i rode a dent out of
    my top tube".

    I have money and you don't.

    Liar https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/hicB2nXjlr4/m/G2axqs0k_IwJ

    Aug 9, 2013, 11:11:36?AM, cycl...@yahoo.com wrote:

    "Trouble is that while I was out of it I sold or gave away almost my
    entire bicycle collection. And all of my wardrobe and most of my tools!
    And now on Social Security I have to VERY slowly make it up."

    I have spent around 50 years as an engineer. working for important companies and you're afraid to use your own name for fear that people will look you up on LinkedIn.

    I get daily notifications from Linked about people who have looked me
    up. It tommy world those are "job offers".




    Thanks for reminding us of all of the people that you, Liebermann and Krygowski chased away.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 22:51:03 2025
    On Mon May 12 12:16:54 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/11/2025 12:42 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon May 5 19:17:36 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    https://sheldonbrown.com/kunich.html This article was copyrighted so why is it that you couldn't find it?

    Having a copyright means you have registered the work with the US
    Copyright Office. Have you done this?
    <https://www.copyright.gov/registration/>

    Please tell me that your article was a "scientific study or report". I
    need the entertainment. At best, it's a summary of existing
    legislation or an "opinion piece".

    You stated that:
    "I have written scientific studies and reports."
    If you have written more than one, where are they?

    I also wrote papers for NASA and LLRL. But they were classsified.

    You were in the USAF in the early 1960's. That's about 60 years ago.
    If you had done some classified research during the 1960's, it surely
    would have been de-classified by now.

    I don't believe you wrote anything for NASA, LLRL and LBRL. The time
    span when you were likely to have done any writing for them overlaps
    your work history (Jan 1984 to Sept 2014). Other than a gap to
    recover from a bicycle accident in late 2009, you worked full time
    during this period. You would not have had sufficient time to write
    and publish a proper scientific or technical paper. Also, judging by
    your writing skills exhibited in rec.bicycles.tech, you would have
    required considerable editorial assistance.

    I worked for LBRL as well.

    That should be LBNL, not LBRL. To bad I don't find NASA, LLRL, LBNL,
    Analog Devices, and a few others places you claim to have worked, on
    your online resume:
    <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>

    And could have published papers on their accelerator but decided that turning my job over to post grads was a better idea because I had been hired there for my extreme high voltage experience and what they really needed was very high voltage and
    super accurate timing.

    Baloney. You hate anyone and everyone with a degree, probably
    including post graduate students.

    05/27/2024
    Message-ID: <xl65O.105327$EkJ4.11941@fx14.iad>
    <https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/KYEeykBo/riding-after-heavy-manual-labor#postXX>
    (need to update post number)
    "...if I weren't there the chief instruments for finding the cause of
    AIDS would have never been obtained as early as it was. I had SIX
    degreed engineers, 3 EE's and 3 IT programmers fail to be able to even
    keep up with me and the investors in those companies lost their
    investments." etc...

    Not to mention that the accelerator was a VERY borring project. Measuring the charge delay in a length of wire is hardly high technology.

    Electrical charge does not move and therefore does not have a delay.
    The only charge that has a delay are my credit (charge) card billing.

    Rather than continuou tears why don't you ever have som4ething about bicycles to comment on?

    Because it's more fun and more interesting to help you make a fool of
    yourself.




    You didn't answer my question, was your mother's health impaired when she was pregnant with you? There is certainly something wrong with a person that took 6 years to get a 4 year degree and was never able to work above the levewl of technician.

    Have you ever simply stepped back and observed the course of your life?

    Have you ever simply stepped back and observed how your alcoholism has affected your life and those around you?

    How getting arrested for drunk driving and failure to appear led to
    financial collapse that you never recovered from to the point where you
    can't afford simple vacations?

    Seems to me that your impotence and alcoholism were directly affected by
    your mother and fathers alcohol problems. Maybe that's why you're so
    obsessed with Jeffs alleged issues, because your life is such a fucking
    train wreck that your so desperate to find someone who is worse off than
    you that you're willing to make up lies about them.

    You really are a loathesome piece of trash.




    But I am enough of a man not to hide behind ananymity while you use that and distance to create your own universe. Exactly why is it again that you don't take a job where you can make real money?

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