The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride. When confronted wiuth that obvious lie he simply eraced it from the ride site.a half ago.
He has claimed that my 10 and sometimes 12 mph average speeds are really low as if he could do better.
My cop friend just sent a message about a local FAST youg rider that did:
"Look at this guy's stats after his ride. Wow!
Actually, something on his bike went haywire. His actual ride was 41 miles at 16.3mph average. "
The "something went wrong" refers the legal power limiter. I do about 10 mph average on a course with the same amount of climbing and this guy, the Cop I've talked about before, who was really fast for a sport rider before his heart problem a year and
If he thinks that a 16.3 mph on an e-bike is fast, perhaps Flunky can tell us his average speed taken on the Garmin which he must be since he was telling all of you that it had to be MY software for me to get a beta release.
Those of you who, while working, could spend all day on the newsnets raise your hands.
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride. When confronted wiuth that obvious lie he simply eraced it from the ride site.
He has claimed that my 10 and sometimes 12 mph average speeds are really low as if he could do better.
My cop friend just sent a message about a local FAST youg rider that did:a half ago.
"Look at this guy's stats after his ride. Wow!
Actually, something on his bike went haywire. His actual ride was 41 miles at 16.3mph average. "
The "something went wrong" refers the legal power limiter. I do about 10 mph average on a course with the same amount of climbing and this guy, the Cop I've talked about before, who was really fast for a sport rider before his heart problem a year and
If he thinks that a 16.3 mph on an e-bike is fast,
perhaps Flunky can tell us his average speed taken on the Garmin which he must be
since he was telling all of you that it had to be MY software for me to get a beta release.
Those of you who, while working, could spend all day on the newsnets raise your hands.
On 5/4/2025 11:47 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride.
No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or perhaps some >>> other orifice.
Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike and then said "wow!"
Frank, why did you post?
Like Jeff, when I remark on your posts it's mostly to call attention to
your mistakes and your general nonsense.
I don't consistently flag your
nonsense; I let almost all your nonsense slide by, in part because
others do a fine job of commenting, and I have other activities that are
more important to me.
But as usual, you're lying about what others have said. If you were not
lying about Zen's statement, you could give a direct link to his post
and prove your point.
(Well, _perhaps_ you could do that. It may be beyond the capability of a
man who can't properly follow a valid URL.)
On Sat May 3 14:46:22 2025 AMuzi wrote:and a half ago.
On 5/3/2025 2:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride. When confronted wiuth that obvious lie he simply eraced it from the ride site.
He has claimed that my 10 and sometimes 12 mph average speeds are really low as if he could do better.
My cop friend just sent a message about a local FAST youg rider that did: >>>
"Look at this guy's stats after his ride. Wow!
Actually, something on his bike went haywire. His actual ride was 41 miles at 16.3mph average. "
The "something went wrong" refers the legal power limiter. I do about 10 mph average on a course with the same amount of climbing and this guy, the Cop I've talked about before, who was really fast for a sport rider before his heart problem a year
If he thinks that a 16.3 mph on an e-bike is fast, perhaps Flunky can tell us his average speed taken on the Garmin which he must be since he was telling all of you that it had to be MY software for me to get a beta release.
Those of you who, while working, could spend all day on the newsnets raise your hands.
[raises hand]
I check email, read and reply, a dozen or more times per day
and look at rec.bicycles and rec.auto afterwards. So,
essentially, I'm on usenet all day.
Andrew, you are in the bicycle business, not sttempting to sell yourself as an electronics engineer.
On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride.
No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or perhaps some
other orifice.
Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike and then said "wow!"
On Sun May 4 07:52:54 2025 zen cycle wrote:and a half ago.
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride. When confronted wiuth that obvious lie he simply eraced it from the ride site.
No matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never become true.
He has claimed that my 10 and sometimes 12 mph average speeds are really low as if he could do better.
I've never claimed that either but here are my last two commutes:
https://www.strava.com/activities/14256779418
https://www.strava.com/activities/14261577903
18.6 and 18.7, respectively, recorded on my Garmin 530. No, that _isn't_
fast, but it's faster than 12.
My cop friend just sent a message about a local FAST youg rider that did: >>>
"Look at this guy's stats after his ride. Wow!
Actually, something on his bike went haywire. His actual ride was 41 miles at 16.3mph average. "
The "something went wrong" refers the legal power limiter. I do about 10 mph average on a course with the same amount of climbing and this guy, the Cop I've talked about before, who was really fast for a sport rider before his heart problem a year
If he thinks that a 16.3 mph on an e-bike is fast,
16.3 for an e-bike ride isn't fast.
perhaps Flunky can tell us his average speed taken on the Garmin which he must be
My last long outdoor ride last fall:
https://www.strava.com/activities/12410134378
69 miles, 4300 feet of climbing, avg speed 16.9, recorded on Garmin 745.
And for the record, that isn't fast at all.
since he was telling all of you that it had to be MY software for me to get a beta release.
In fact, the opposite is true. I've claimed it is _not_ your software,
it's that you finally learned how to turn on the autopause function.
Those of you who, while working, could spend all day on the newsnets raise your hands.
Some of us know how to manage our time.
How many are you are willing to believe that Flunky can CLIMB at 19 mph when that is the speed of Podachar on 5% average climbs? That is over 30 kph. Remember this when I don't believe a word that comes from Flunky.
On Mon May 5 06:53:31 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 5/4/2025 11:50 AM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, you are in the bicycle business, not sttempting to sell yourself as an electronics engineer.
So?
So, there is a reason that nobody gives a shit what you do. And you call that being important.
On Mon May 5 07:03:46 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 5/4/2025 11:47 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride.
No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or perhaps some >>>> other orifice.
Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike and then said "wow!"
I did? Please post a reference to where I ever claimed "WOW!" about a
17ish mph ebike ride.
I, in fact, claimed the exact opposite.
You seem to be having trouble following the conversation. When did I say that you said "Wow"?
perhaps someOn 5/4/2025 11:47 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride.
No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or
and then said "wow!"other orifice.
Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike
On Mon May 5 13:19:08 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 5/5/2025 1:08 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon May 5 06:53:31 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 5/4/2025 11:50 AM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, you are in the bicycle business, not sttempting to sell yourself as an electronics engineer.
So?
So, there is a reason that nobody gives a shit what you do. And you call that being important.
Again, please list any claim I've made in this forum extolling my
importance.
Are you now telling us that you're unimportant to your company?
Don't worry, everyone already knows it.
On Mon May 5 13:25:49 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 5/5/2025 1:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon May 5 13:19:08 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 5/5/2025 1:08 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon May 5 06:53:31 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 5/4/2025 11:50 AM, cyclintom wrote:
Andrew, you are in the bicycle business, not sttempting to sell yourself as an electronics engineer.
So?
So, there is a reason that nobody gives a shit what you do. And you call that being important.
Again, please list any claim I've made in this forum extolling my
importance.
Are you now telling us that you're unimportant to your company?
I've never made any claim about my importance one way or the other. What
I _can_ claim is that I'm contributing enough for them to keep me
employed in a company with only 85 people for ten years, and pay me
pretty well to do it.
Don't worry, everyone already knows it.
We know way more about your claims of "importance".
Only 85 people huh? And management doesn't care what you do with your time?
That is very interesting. Does your father own the company?
On Mon May 5 13:23:11 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 5/5/2025 1:14 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon May 5 07:03:46 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 5/4/2025 11:47 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride. >>>>>>No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or perhaps some >>>>>> other orifice.
Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike and then said "wow!"
I did? Please post a reference to where I ever claimed "WOW!" about a
17ish mph ebike ride.
I, in fact, claimed the exact opposite.
You seem to be having trouble following the conversation. When did I say that you said "Wow"?
*
>> On 5/4/2025 11:47 AM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>> The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride. >> >>>>
>>>> No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or
perhaps some
>>>> other orifice.
>>>
>>> Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike
and then said "wow!"
*
This is like the time you wrote that being in the Garmin Beta program
made you a test engineer, then you denied you wrote it.
I forgot that I said that.
But the fact remains that you don't even know what a test engineer is.
On Mon May 5 07:13:53 2025 zen cycle wrote:and a half ago.
On 5/4/2025 12:00 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun May 4 07:52:54 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride. When confronted wiuth that obvious lie he simply eraced it from the ride site.
No matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never become true. >>>>
He has claimed that my 10 and sometimes 12 mph average speeds are really low as if he could do better.
I've never claimed that either but here are my last two commutes:
https://www.strava.com/activities/14256779418
https://www.strava.com/activities/14261577903
18.6 and 18.7, respectively, recorded on my Garmin 530. No, that _isn't_ >>>> fast, but it's faster than 12.
My cop friend just sent a message about a local FAST youg rider that did: >>>>>
"Look at this guy's stats after his ride. Wow!
Actually, something on his bike went haywire. His actual ride was 41 miles at 16.3mph average. "
The "something went wrong" refers the legal power limiter. I do about 10 mph average on a course with the same amount of climbing and this guy, the Cop I've talked about before, who was really fast for a sport rider before his heart problem a year
If he thinks that a 16.3 mph on an e-bike is fast,
16.3 for an e-bike ride isn't fast.
perhaps Flunky can tell us his average speed taken on the Garmin which he must be
My last long outdoor ride last fall:
https://www.strava.com/activities/12410134378
69 miles, 4300 feet of climbing, avg speed 16.9, recorded on Garmin 745. >>>> And for the record, that isn't fast at all.
since he was telling all of you that it had to be MY software for me to get a beta release.
In fact, the opposite is true. I've claimed it is _not_ your software, >>>> it's that you finally learned how to turn on the autopause function.
Those of you who, while working, could spend all day on the newsnets raise your hands.
Some of us know how to manage our time.
How many are you are willing to believe that Flunky can CLIMB at 19 mph when that is the speed of Podachar on 5% average climbs? That is over 30 kph. Remember this when I don't believe a word that comes from Flunky.
Care to post a reference where I ever claimed I was climbing big hills
at 19 mph?
Of course you won't, and can't. It's another lie from you. The link I
posted above shows what my climbing speed was on that day, the hardest
climb being the Lost River segment, 1.9 miles at 6%. My speed up that
climb was 9.1. Even my all time PR up that climb was only 9.9 MPH.
https://www.strava.com/activities/1187349546#29260415857
If you're going to make up lies and build strawmen, they should at least
have _some_ basis in reality.
That is why you used your Strava Account. So that all you had to do is erase your phony milelage and you can claim you never posted that. But everyone saw it. Too bad for you.
On Mon May 5 13:42:09 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
They're fully aware of how I manage my time. It's why I'm still here
after ten years.
That is very interesting. Does your father own the company?
It's family owned, but not my family. We do have the stereotypical
nephew that "works" here. You'd like him. Just like you he's a fuck-up
that sets the bar really low for everyone else and loves trump. The only
difference is that he has his family's money, unlike your broke-ass.
You're ONLY there because they need someone with a degree to sign off on government paperwork. But that paperwork may become extraneous under DOGE and where does that leave you.
Aside from complaining that the nephew makes more money than you?
On Mon May 5 13:55:53 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
No one saw anything like that, not even you.
Unlike you, I have followers on Strava whom I have respect for and they
have respect for me. These are people that I race, train, ride, and
socialize with. f I wereI ever to post such a ridiculous feat of riding
200 miles at a 20 mph average, they would immediately call bullshit.
Unlike you I keep my friends though honest interaction, not making up
bullshit stories like developing every piece of medical electronics
currently on the market or being a "senior business consultant" (or
whatever the fuck that was).
There was never a post on my account of 200 miles, at _any_ speed. It's
a blatant lie on your part.
knock off the bullshit. After you published that obviously fake account of 2 200 mile rides at a 20 mph average and I called everyone's attention to the fact that on a course like that you DROVE it, You eraced your strava account from the group.
On Mon May 5 07:03:46 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 5/4/2025 11:47 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride.
No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or perhaps some >> >> other orifice.
Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike and then said "wow!"
I did? Please post a reference to where I ever claimed "WOW!" about a
17ish mph ebike ride.
I, in fact, claimed the exact opposite.
You seem to be having trouble following the conversation. When did I say that you said "Wow"?
But the fact remains that you don't even know what a test engineer is.
That is why you used your Strava Account. So that all you had
to do is erase your phony milelage and you can claim you never
posted that. But everyone saw it. Too bad for you.
I went back to Jan 2024 and did not find a single comment by Zen Cycle
that included the word "wow".
On Mon May 5 13:37:42 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 5/5/2025 1:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon May 5 13:23:11 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 5/5/2025 1:14 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon May 5 07:03:46 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On 5/4/2025 11:47 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride. >>>>>>>>No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or perhaps some
other orifice.
Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike and then said "wow!"
I did? Please post a reference to where I ever claimed "WOW!" about a >>>>>> 17ish mph ebike ride.
I, in fact, claimed the exact opposite.
You seem to be having trouble following the conversation. When did I say that you said "Wow"?
*
>> On 5/4/2025 11:47 AM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Sat May 3 16:12:53 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/3/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>> The scum Flunky claimed that he averaged 20 mph on a 200 mile ride.
>>>>
>>>> No he didn't. That idea popped out of your imagination - or
perhaps some
>>>> other orifice.
>>>
>>> Of courae, that is why he told me the average speed of an e-bike >>>> and then said "wow!"
*
This is like the time you wrote that being in the Garmin Beta program
made you a test engineer, then you denied you wrote it.
I forgot that I said that.
Right, you forgot what you wrote a mere two messages before that.
But the fact remains that you don't even know what a test engineer is.
I was originally hired here as a test engineer. I developed software and
hardware test procedures for the engineering technicians to do
engineering qualification testing, and I partially developed and then
fully maintained two manufacturing ATE fixtures (programmed in
LabWindows CVI) - since handed off and being maintained by the
manufacturing engineer.
I do know a test engineer is _not_ an end user who is asked to
participate in a beta program.
It seems to me you're the one confused over engineering niche
responsibilities.
So there is no reason for anyone to test a beta release. Gotcha.
What an ass.
That must have been some software since you don't even know what a program is.
On Mon May 5 18:26:33 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:58:35 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
I went back to Jan 2024 and did not find a single comment by Zen Cycle
that included the word "wow".
Oops. That should be:
I went back to Jan 2024 and did not find a single comment by Zen Cycle
on bicycle speed(s) that included the word "wow".
The FACT is that Flunky claimed to have done 2, 200 mile rides and he even showed the courses on Strava with an average speed that could only be achieved by a car.
When I confronted him, he erased those rides off of Strava.
Since they w3ere up for 2 days how did you miss them?
On Mon May 5 18:00:36 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:25:03 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
But the fact remains that you don't even know what a test engineer is.
Methinks the problem is that you don't know what a fact is.
Jeff the only time you worked for a company, was it QC or test engineer?
In any case, did you have time to haunt newsgroups while you were working?
On Mon May 5 18:26:33 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:When I confronted him, he erased those rides off of Strava. Since they w3ere up for 2 days how did you miss them?
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:58:35 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
I went back to Jan 2024 and did not find a single comment by Zen Cycle
that included the word "wow".
Oops. That should be:
I went back to Jan 2024 and did not find a single comment by Zen Cycle
on bicycle speed(s) that included the word "wow".
The FACT is that Flunky claimed to have done 2, 200 mile rides and he even showed the courses on Strava with an average speed that could only be achieved by a car. Pogacar can't achieve an average like that on a course like that that is 200 miles long.
The FACT is that Flunky claimed to have done 2, 200 mile rides and he even showed the courses on Strava with an average speed that could only be achieved by a car.
On Mon May 5 18:21:42 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:21:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
That is why you used your Strava Account. So that all you had
to do is erase your phony milelage and you can claim you never
posted that. But everyone saw it. Too bad for you.
Wrong. It's easy enough to edit a Strava ride using the "crop"
command. I had to do that on my Friday trudge, where I forgot to stop
logging and ended up with some rather impressive walking statistics on
the way to a lavish Chinese lunch.
<https://www.strava.com/activities/14357311501>
"Crop Tool for Activities"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919437-Crop-Tool-for-Activities>
However, it's rather difficult to fake a ride in Strava. There are
instructions available for how it might be done, but the few I've read
don't look very easy or reliable.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=strava%20how%20to%20fake%20a%20bicycle%20ride>
Besides, why would Zen Cycle want to do that? There's no prices,
acclaim or notoriety for doing it. There are also people who would be
happy to report anything suspicious. It's just not worth the risk.
Tom, if you want to accuse someone of cheating, I suggest you provide
some evidence.
"How to Report Cheating on Strava"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/206522304-How-to-Report-Cheating-on-Strava>
This must be another of youer really bright days. All you have to do isw turn your Garmin on and drive a course in your car which Flunky clearly did.
On Sun, 11 May 2025 16:33:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon May 5 18:21:42 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:21:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
That is why you used your Strava Account. So that all you had
to do is erase your phony milelage and you can claim you never
posted that. But everyone saw it. Too bad for you.
Wrong. It's easy enough to edit a Strava ride using the "crop"
command. I had to do that on my Friday trudge, where I forgot to stop
logging and ended up with some rather impressive walking statistics on
the way to a lavish Chinese lunch.
<https://www.strava.com/activities/14357311501>
"Crop Tool for Activities"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919437-Crop-Tool-for-Activities>
However, it's rather difficult to fake a ride in Strava. There are
instructions available for how it might be done, but the few I've read
don't look very easy or reliable.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=strava%20how%20to%20fake%20a%20bicycle%20ride>
Besides, why would Zen Cycle want to do that? There's no prices,
acclaim or notoriety for doing it. There are also people who would be
happy to report anything suspicious. It's just not worth the risk.
Tom, if you want to accuse someone of cheating, I suggest you provide
some evidence.
"How to Report Cheating on Strava"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/206522304-How-to-Report-Cheating-on-Strava>
This must be another of youer really bright days. All you have to do isw
turn your Garmin on and drive a course in your car which Flunky clearly did.
I live in the deep dark forest, where there aren't too many "really
bright days". Right now, it's 5.2 watts/meters^2. Fortunately,
things do look brighter at around noon.
I don't own a Garmin cycling computer. I use a phone (Moto G Power
2020) and the free Strava app: <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.strava>
I'm also wondering if you really had sensors for each of your 15(?)
bicycles or if you moved one or two sensors between bicycles as
needed. Of course, you recalibrated each sensor when you moved it.
I have driven away in my car and forgotten to turn off the app. It
happens more often than I care to admit. I solved that problem by
hanging a small sign over my steering wheel with a reminder.
I always crop the ride data to eliminate the part where I forgot to
turn off the data logger. I usually walk (not ride) in the morning
and do any necessary edits on my home computer a few hours later. If
you want to see my data before I edit it, I usually walk on Fridays
from 9:30am to about 11:30am PDT and make the necessary edits
somewhere between 3pm and 10pm PDT.
<https://www.strava.com/athlete/training>
Could you remind me why you closed your Strava account and deleted all
your saved data?
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2025 16:33:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon May 5 18:21:42 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:21:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
That is why you used your Strava Account. So that all you had
to do is erase your phony milelage and you can claim you never
posted that. But everyone saw it. Too bad for you.
Wrong. It's easy enough to edit a Strava ride using the "crop"
command. I had to do that on my Friday trudge, where I forgot to stop >>>> logging and ended up with some rather impressive walking statistics on >>>> the way to a lavish Chinese lunch.
<https://www.strava.com/activities/14357311501>
"Crop Tool for Activities"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919437-Crop-Tool-for-Activities>
However, it's rather difficult to fake a ride in Strava. There are
instructions available for how it might be done, but the few I've read >>>> don't look very easy or reliable.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=strava%20how%20to%20fake%20a%20bicycle%20ride>
Besides, why would Zen Cycle want to do that? There's no prices,
acclaim or notoriety for doing it. There are also people who would be >>>> happy to report anything suspicious. It's just not worth the risk.
Tom, if you want to accuse someone of cheating, I suggest you provide
some evidence.
"How to Report Cheating on Strava"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/206522304-How-to-Report-Cheating-on-Strava>
This must be another of youer really bright days. All you have to do isw >>> turn your Garmin on and drive a course in your car which Flunky clearly did.
Strava is rather better at flagging such stuff up, MTBers are common for >this, ie forget to turn it off, so have the drive home as well!
I live in the deep dark forest, where there aren't too many "reallyI rather suspect it showed his bragging rights to be rather unfounded!
bright days". Right now, it's 5.2 watts/meters^2. Fortunately,
things do look brighter at around noon.
I don't own a Garmin cycling computer. I use a phone (Moto G Power
2020) and the free Strava app:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.strava>
I'm also wondering if you really had sensors for each of your 15(?)
bicycles or if you moved one or two sensors between bicycles as
needed. Of course, you recalibrated each sensor when you moved it.
I have driven away in my car and forgotten to turn off the app. It
happens more often than I care to admit. I solved that problem by
hanging a small sign over my steering wheel with a reminder.
I always crop the ride data to eliminate the part where I forgot to
turn off the data logger. I usually walk (not ride) in the morning
and do any necessary edits on my home computer a few hours later. If
you want to see my data before I edit it, I usually walk on Fridays
from 9:30am to about 11:30am PDT and make the necessary edits
somewhere between 3pm and 10pm PDT.
<https://www.strava.com/athlete/training>
Could you remind me why you closed your Strava account and deleted all
your saved data?
I find it useful as a diary and as a social tool, plus I do like the route >builder as I like the path less traveled so can see if someone has used X >trail and when? Ie is it likely to exist on the ground or does it exist
only on the map and so on.
Roger Merriman
On Wed May 7 15:51:52 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:obviously a reason for that.
On Wed, 07 May 2025 20:11:56 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon May 5 18:00:36 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:25:03 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
But the fact remains that you don't even know what a test engineer is. >> >>Methinks the problem is that you don't know what a fact is.
Jeff the only time you worked for a company, was it QC or test engineer?
Nice of you to provide a rather limited number of choices.
You'll find my resume at:
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/>
Don't forget to pretend that you couldn't find my resume. If it helps
any, I was mostly able to pick my own title. My favorites was "Keeper
of the Faith" (from Planet of the Apes).
In any case, did you have time to haunt newsgroups while you were working? >>It was rather difficult for me to haunt Usenet newsgroups before
Usenet was available to the GUM (great unwashed masses), which was
everyone who was not a corporation or a university. They didn't have
public Usenet newsgroups when I was working for a company. My first
NNTP server, running B-News 2.10 through UUNET) was in about 1984.
Before that, online chatter and a maximum of 16 newsgroups was limited
to BBS's (bulletin board systems) using a mechanical Model 33 ASR
teletype.
10/18/2024
<https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=112701&group=rec.bicycles.tech#112701>
Message-ID: <2BAQO.251408$EEm7.40885@fx16.iad>
"When I worked a job, I NEVER had time for anything other than work"
Jeff, why did you avoid the question? There were private newsgroups forever since Jobst started all of the "rec.bicycles" groups. I will say that it is sort of peculiar that the three of you are so interested in protecting each other's asses. There is
Jeff the only time you worked for a company, was it QC or test engineer?
Nice of you to provide a rather limited number of choices.
You'll find my resume at: <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> Don't forget to pretend that you couldn't find my resume.
On Mon May 5 18:12:22 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/5/2025 2:19 PM, cyclintom wrote:
knock off the bullshit. After you published that obviously fake account of 2 200 mile rides at a 20 mph average ...
Nope, that never happened, and nobody here believes it did. You're
fantasizing, Tom, and making yourself look really foolish yet again.
You can fix this two ways. One would be to link to Zen's actual post
where he said what you claim. Problem is, that's impossible.
Another way would be to admit you're wrong yet again. You've managed to
do that only a couple times, but it's not impossible.
There is absolutely no way that you could have missed that claim of 2, 200 mile rides from someone that couldn't ride 50 miles.
So you're lying because that is what you do.
On Sun, 11 May 2025 16:33:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon May 5 18:21:42 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:21:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
That is why you used your Strava Account. So that all you had
to do is erase your phony milelage and you can claim you never
posted that. But everyone saw it. Too bad for you.
Wrong. It's easy enough to edit a Strava ride using the "crop"
command. I had to do that on my Friday trudge, where I forgot to stop
logging and ended up with some rather impressive walking statistics on
the way to a lavish Chinese lunch.
<https://www.strava.com/activities/14357311501>
"Crop Tool for Activities"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919437-Crop-Tool-for-Activities>
However, it's rather difficult to fake a ride in Strava. There are
instructions available for how it might be done, but the few I've read
don't look very easy or reliable.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=strava%20how%20to%20fake%20a%20bicycle%20ride>
Besides, why would Zen Cycle want to do that? There's no prices,
acclaim or notoriety for doing it. There are also people who would be
happy to report anything suspicious. It's just not worth the risk.
Tom, if you want to accuse someone of cheating, I suggest you provide
some evidence.
"How to Report Cheating on Strava"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/206522304-How-to-Report-Cheating-on-Strava>
This must be another of youer really bright days. All you have to do isw turn your Garmin on and drive a course in your car which Flunky clearly did.
I live in the deep dark forest, where there aren't too many "really
bright days". Right now, it's 5.2 watts/meters^2. Fortunately,
things do look brighter at around noon.
I don't own a Garmin cycling computer. I use a phone (Moto G Power
2020) and the free Strava app: <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.strava>
I'm also wondering if you really had sensors for each of your 15(?)
bicycles or if you moved one or two sensors between bicycles as
needed. Of course, you recalibrated each sensor when you moved it.
I have driven away in my car and forgotten to turn off the app. It
happens more often than I care to admit. I solved that problem by
hanging a small sign over my steering wheel with a reminder.
I always crop the ride data to eliminate the part where I forgot to
turn off the data logger. I usually walk (not ride) in the morning
and do any necessary edits on my home computer a few hours later. If
you want to see my data before I edit it, I usually walk on Fridays
from 9:30am to about 11:30am PDT and make the necessary edits
somewhere between 3pm and 10pm PDT.
<https://www.strava.com/athlete/training>
Could you remind me why you closed your Strava account and deleted all
your saved data?
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2025 16:33:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon May 5 18:21:42 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:21:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
That is why you used your Strava Account. So that all you had
to do is erase your phony milelage and you can claim you never
posted that. But everyone saw it. Too bad for you.
Wrong. It's easy enough to edit a Strava ride using the "crop"
command. I had to do that on my Friday trudge, where I forgot to stop >>>> logging and ended up with some rather impressive walking statistics on >>>> the way to a lavish Chinese lunch.
<https://www.strava.com/activities/14357311501>
"Crop Tool for Activities"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919437-Crop-Tool-for-Activities>
However, it's rather difficult to fake a ride in Strava. There are
instructions available for how it might be done, but the few I've read >>>> don't look very easy or reliable.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=strava%20how%20to%20fake%20a%20bicycle%20ride>
Besides, why would Zen Cycle want to do that? There's no prices,
acclaim or notoriety for doing it. There are also people who would be >>>> happy to report anything suspicious. It's just not worth the risk.
Tom, if you want to accuse someone of cheating, I suggest you provide
some evidence.
"How to Report Cheating on Strava"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/206522304-How-to-Report-Cheating-on-Strava>
This must be another of youer really bright days. All you have to do isw >>> turn your Garmin on and drive a course in your car which Flunky clearly did.
Strava is rather better at flagging such stuff up, MTBers are common for this, ie forget to turn it off, so have the drive home as well!
I rather suspect it showed his bragging rights to be rather unfounded!
I live in the deep dark forest, where there aren't too many "really
bright days". Right now, it's 5.2 watts/meters^2. Fortunately,
things do look brighter at around noon.
I don't own a Garmin cycling computer. I use a phone (Moto G Power
2020) and the free Strava app:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.strava>
I'm also wondering if you really had sensors for each of your 15(?)
bicycles or if you moved one or two sensors between bicycles as
needed. Of course, you recalibrated each sensor when you moved it.
I have driven away in my car and forgotten to turn off the app. It
happens more often than I care to admit. I solved that problem by
hanging a small sign over my steering wheel with a reminder.
I always crop the ride data to eliminate the part where I forgot to
turn off the data logger. I usually walk (not ride) in the morning
and do any necessary edits on my home computer a few hours later. If
you want to see my data before I edit it, I usually walk on Fridays
from 9:30am to about 11:30am PDT and make the necessary edits
somewhere between 3pm and 10pm PDT.
<https://www.strava.com/athlete/training>
Could you remind me why you closed your Strava account and deleted all
your saved data?
I find it useful as a diary and as a social tool, plus I do like the route builder as I like the path less traveled so can see if someone has used X trail and when? Ie is it likely to exist on the ground or does it exist
only on the map and so on.
Roger Merriman
I closeed my Strava account as I've said before - because when I did a ride the 20 year olds would ride the same course and then brag about how much faster they were. Half of these guys were Cat 1 or 2!
This was the same reason I stopped riding with the club - I am not a racer and if I'm going fast it pisses me off that the club racers would take a different route so that they could get there before me.
And up to four years ago I was outclimbing most of the people in the club without trying to.
So I took to riding with the slowpokes at the back.
I could drop anyone on a decent. Probably because I didn't like riding close to others at speed.
On 11 May 2025 19:56:17 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2025 16:33:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon May 5 18:21:42 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:21:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
That is why you used your Strava Account. So that all you had
to do is erase your phony milelage and you can claim you never
posted that. But everyone saw it. Too bad for you.
Wrong. It's easy enough to edit a Strava ride using the "crop"
command. I had to do that on my Friday trudge, where I forgot to stop >>>>> logging and ended up with some rather impressive walking statistics on >>>>> the way to a lavish Chinese lunch.
<https://www.strava.com/activities/14357311501>
"Crop Tool for Activities"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919437-Crop-Tool-for-Activities>
However, it's rather difficult to fake a ride in Strava. There are
instructions available for how it might be done, but the few I've read >>>>> don't look very easy or reliable.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=strava%20how%20to%20fake%20a%20bicycle%20ride>
Besides, why would Zen Cycle want to do that? There's no prices,
acclaim or notoriety for doing it. There are also people who would be >>>>> happy to report anything suspicious. It's just not worth the risk.
Tom, if you want to accuse someone of cheating, I suggest you provide >>>>> some evidence.
"How to Report Cheating on Strava"
<https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/206522304-How-to-Report-Cheating-on-Strava>
This must be another of youer really bright days. All you have to do isw >>>> turn your Garmin on and drive a course in your car which Flunky clearly did.
Strava is rather better at flagging such stuff up, MTBers are common for
this, ie forget to turn it off, so have the drive home as well!
I just noticed that Tom suggest that:
"All you have to do isw turn your Garmin on and drive a course in your car..."
That's rather difficult because I don't walk much in areas frequented
by motor vehicles, hike on paved roads, engage in racing, etc. I
suspect that Tom expects me to drive my car on the same narrow dirt
trails on which I hike. I don't think my Subaru will fit: <https://www.reddit.com/r/norcalhiking/comments/116xhb0/quail_hollow_ranch_county_park_feb_3_2023/>
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/SuzNVahC97S6u4k28>
Hmmm... Dec 20, 2019. The current sign now includes 4(?) additional
"No" items.
I live in the deep dark forest, where there aren't too many "reallyI rather suspect it showed his bragging rights to be rather unfounded!
bright days". Right now, it's 5.2 watts/meters^2. Fortunately,
things do look brighter at around noon.
I don't own a Garmin cycling computer. I use a phone (Moto G Power
2020) and the free Strava app:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.strava>
I'm also wondering if you really had sensors for each of your 15(?)
bicycles or if you moved one or two sensors between bicycles as
needed. Of course, you recalibrated each sensor when you moved it.
I have driven away in my car and forgotten to turn off the app. It
happens more often than I care to admit. I solved that problem by
hanging a small sign over my steering wheel with a reminder.
I always crop the ride data to eliminate the part where I forgot to
turn off the data logger. I usually walk (not ride) in the morning
and do any necessary edits on my home computer a few hours later. If
you want to see my data before I edit it, I usually walk on Fridays
from 9:30am to about 11:30am PDT and make the necessary edits
somewhere between 3pm and 10pm PDT.
<https://www.strava.com/athlete/training>
Could you remind me why you closed your Strava account and deleted all
your saved data?
Actually, Tom's Strava data didn't show many unfounded claims. At the
time, I was being very diplomatic and did NOT post many remarks about
Tom's rides. My only comments involved Tom making occasional mistakes
and using his rides as "proof" whether Abbott Labs had closed one of
their building in the area. I didn't fact check all of Tom's rides,
but the one's I checked were generally accurate for location and
fairly inaccurate at to speed and distance probably because Tom didn't calibrate his speed and cadence sensor or crop is data the few times
when he accidentally included a car ride. I suspect the only reason
Tom was posting his rides to Strava was because Lou Holtman had asked
Tom to post his Strava rides (approx May 2021 thru Feb 2024).
I find it useful as a diary and as a social tool, plus I do like the route >> builder as I like the path less traveled so can see if someone has used X
trail and when? Ie is it likely to exist on the ground or does it exist
only on the map and so on.
I record my rides on Strava mostly to impress my friends, some of whom
are becoming couch potatoes (fat and lazy). I also want to get better aquatinted with the program and how it works. Also, because my
cardiologist repeatedly demands that I get more exercise.
Roger Merriman
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