• Man charged for blocking mountain bike trail.

    From pH@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 8 01:03:33 2025
    Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Actually, I'm surprised to see any actions were actually taken against this fellow putting branches across a trail.

    pH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3ZtO7SmVw


    P.S.: I'm glad Vandeman (sp?) has receded into obscurity and does not seem
    to be annoying cyclists any more.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 11:05:11 2025
    On 5/7/2025 6:03 PM, pH wrote:
    Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Actually, I'm surprised to see any actions were actually taken against this fellow putting branches across a trail.

    pH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3ZtO7SmVw


    P.S.: I'm glad Vandeman (sp?) has receded into obscurity and does not seem
    to be annoying cyclists any more.

    Not as receded as you may thing, see the comments on this article: <https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/02/15/local-mountain-bikers-stage-protest-against-trail-restrictions-at-pleasanton-ridge/>

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  • From Beej Jorgensen@21:1/5 to wNOSPAMp@gmail.org on Sat May 31 20:05:38 2025
    In article <vvgvt5$1bic6$1@dont-email.me>, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote: >Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Wow--that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I'd forgotten. I
    lived in Berkeley when the whole saw thing happened, and some searching
    shows he's been pretty involved with law enforcement in the meantime.

    Once I tried to talk sense with him, but he told me to never email him
    again. So I didn't.

    --
    Brian "Beej Jorgensen" Hall | beej@beej.us

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to sms on Sun Jun 1 16:48:30 2025
    On 2025-05-30, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 5/7/2025 6:03 PM, pH wrote:
    Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Actually, I'm surprised to see any actions were actually taken against this >> fellow putting branches across a trail.

    pH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3ZtO7SmVw


    P.S.: I'm glad Vandeman (sp?) has receded into obscurity and does not seem >> to be annoying cyclists any more.

    Not as receded as you may thing, see the comments on this article:
    <https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/02/15/local-mountain-bikers-stage-protest-against-trail-restrictions-at-pleasanton-ridge/>

    Oh! Thank-you for the post.

    I scanned the article for Vandeman's name but did not see it...oops, re-read your post and checked the comments....well bless his pointy little head!

    It's kind of nice to see him again in the same way it's nice to see
    Moriarty's name in a Sherlock Holmes story.

    It says his post was from 2022 at 3 in the morning.

    Well, that's nice to know and thanks again for posting the link.

    pH

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to wNOSPAMp@gmail.org on Sun Jun 1 16:55:00 2025
    On 2025-06-01, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote:
    On 2025-05-30, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 5/7/2025 6:03 PM, pH wrote:
    Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Actually, I'm surprised to see any actions were actually taken against this >>> fellow putting branches across a trail.

    pH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3ZtO7SmVw


    P.S.: I'm glad Vandeman (sp?) has receded into obscurity and does not seem >>> to be annoying cyclists any more.

    Not as receded as you may thing, see the comments on this article: >><https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/02/15/local-mountain-bikers-stage-protest-against-trail-restrictions-at-pleasanton-ridge/>

    Oh! Thank-you for the post.

    I scanned the article for Vandeman's name but did not see it...oops, re-read your post and checked the comments....well bless his pointy little head!

    It's kind of nice to see him again in the same way it's nice to see Moriarty's name in a Sherlock Holmes story.

    It says his post was from 2022 at 3 in the morning.

    Well, that's nice to know and thanks again for posting the link.

    pH

    Following up my own post.
    Here's a link to Mike showing what he looked like back in 2010 when his
    brush with the law occurred...

    https://www.mtbnj.com/forum/threads/frequently-asked-questions-about-mountain-biking.41923/

    pH

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 1 11:32:32 2025
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 16:55:00 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
    wrote:

    On 2025-06-01, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote:
    On 2025-05-30, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 5/7/2025 6:03 PM, pH wrote:
    Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Actually, I'm surprised to see any actions were actually taken against this
    fellow putting branches across a trail.

    pH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3ZtO7SmVw


    P.S.: I'm glad Vandeman (sp?) has receded into obscurity and does not seem >>>> to be annoying cyclists any more.

    Not as receded as you may thing, see the comments on this article: >>><https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/02/15/local-mountain-bikers-stage-protest-against-trail-restrictions-at-pleasanton-ridge/>

    Oh! Thank-you for the post.

    I scanned the article for Vandeman's name but did not see it...oops, re-read >> your post and checked the comments....well bless his pointy little head!

    It's kind of nice to see him again in the same way it's nice to see
    Moriarty's name in a Sherlock Holmes story.

    It says his post was from 2022 at 3 in the morning.

    Well, that's nice to know and thanks again for posting the link.

    pH

    Following up my own post.
    Here's a link to Mike showing what he looked like back in 2010 when his
    brush with the law occurred...

    https://www.mtbnj.com/forum/threads/frequently-asked-questions-about-mountain-biking.41923/

    pH

    Here's his latest rant and manifesto (Last Updated March 16, 2025): <https://mjvande.info/mtbfaq.htm>

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Mon Jun 2 03:27:54 2025
    On 2025-06-01, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 16:55:00 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
    wrote:

    On 2025-06-01, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote:
    On 2025-05-30, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 5/7/2025 6:03 PM, pH wrote:
    Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Actually, I'm surprised to see any actions were actually taken against this
    fellow putting branches across a trail.

    pH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3ZtO7SmVw


    P.S.: I'm glad Vandeman (sp?) has receded into obscurity and does not seem
    to be annoying cyclists any more.

    Not as receded as you may thing, see the comments on this article: >>>><https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/02/15/local-mountain-bikers-stage-protest-against-trail-restrictions-at-pleasanton-ridge/>

    Oh! Thank-you for the post.

    I scanned the article for Vandeman's name but did not see it...oops, re-read
    your post and checked the comments....well bless his pointy little head! >>>
    It's kind of nice to see him again in the same way it's nice to see
    Moriarty's name in a Sherlock Holmes story.

    It says his post was from 2022 at 3 in the morning.

    Well, that's nice to know and thanks again for posting the link.

    pH

    Following up my own post.
    Here's a link to Mike showing what he looked like back in 2010 when his >>brush with the law occurred...
    https://www.mtbnj.com/forum/threads/frequently-asked-questions-about-mountain-biking.41923/

    pH

    Here's his latest rant and manifesto (Last Updated March 16, 2025):
    <https://mjvande.info/mtbfaq.htm>


    Thanks, Jeff.
    My, there's a *lot* of stuff there on his website. He's certainly dedicated
    to his cause; I think he qualifies for "true believer" status.

    Oh well.

    pH

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 09:14:53 2025
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 03:27:54 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
    wrote:

    On 2025-06-01, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 16:55:00 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
    wrote:

    On 2025-06-01, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote:
    On 2025-05-30, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 5/7/2025 6:03 PM, pH wrote:
    Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Actually, I'm surprised to see any actions were actually taken against this
    fellow putting branches across a trail.

    pH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3ZtO7SmVw


    P.S.: I'm glad Vandeman (sp?) has receded into obscurity and does not seem
    to be annoying cyclists any more.

    Not as receded as you may thing, see the comments on this article: >>>>><https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/02/15/local-mountain-bikers-stage-protest-against-trail-restrictions-at-pleasanton-ridge/>

    Oh! Thank-you for the post.

    I scanned the article for Vandeman's name but did not see it...oops, re-read
    your post and checked the comments....well bless his pointy little head! >>>>
    It's kind of nice to see him again in the same way it's nice to see
    Moriarty's name in a Sherlock Holmes story.

    It says his post was from 2022 at 3 in the morning.

    Well, that's nice to know and thanks again for posting the link.

    pH

    Following up my own post.
    Here's a link to Mike showing what he looked like back in 2010 when his >>>brush with the law occurred...
    https://www.mtbnj.com/forum/threads/frequently-asked-questions-about-mountain-biking.41923/

    pH

    Here's his latest rant and manifesto (Last Updated March 16, 2025): >><https://mjvande.info/mtbfaq.htm>


    Thanks, Jeff.
    My, there's a *lot* of stuff there on his website. He's certainly dedicated >to his cause; I think he qualifies for "true believer" status.

    Where is the dividing line between a true believer and a fanatic? I
    would think that a true believer does not necessarily take action to
    promote his beliefs, while the fanatic shoves his ideas down the
    throat of anyone who might be listening.

    I think the basic problem is that cycling involves sharing the road
    and some people just haven't learned that their "right" to use a trail
    ends where someone else's use of the same trail begins.

    Oh well.

    That's a deep subject.

    pH

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Tue Jun 3 18:30:38 2025
    On 2025-06-02, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 03:27:54 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
    wrote:

    On 2025-06-01, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 16:55:00 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
    wrote:

    On 2025-06-01, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote:
    On 2025-05-30, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 5/7/2025 6:03 PM, pH wrote:
    Holy Mike Vandeman, batman....

    Actually, I'm surprised to see any actions were actually taken against this
    fellow putting branches across a trail.

    pH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3ZtO7SmVw


    P.S.: I'm glad Vandeman (sp?) has receded into obscurity and does not seem
    to be annoying cyclists any more.

    Not as receded as you may thing, see the comments on this article: >>>>>><https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/02/15/local-mountain-bikers-stage-protest-against-trail-restrictions-at-pleasanton-ridge/>

    Oh! Thank-you for the post.

    I scanned the article for Vandeman's name but did not see it...oops, re-read
    your post and checked the comments....well bless his pointy little head! >>>>>
    It's kind of nice to see him again in the same way it's nice to see
    Moriarty's name in a Sherlock Holmes story.

    It says his post was from 2022 at 3 in the morning.

    Well, that's nice to know and thanks again for posting the link.

    pH

    Following up my own post.
    Here's a link to Mike showing what he looked like back in 2010 when his >>>>brush with the law occurred...
    https://www.mtbnj.com/forum/threads/frequently-asked-questions-about-mountain-biking.41923/

    pH

    Here's his latest rant and manifesto (Last Updated March 16, 2025): >>><https://mjvande.info/mtbfaq.htm>


    Thanks, Jeff.
    My, there's a *lot* of stuff there on his website. He's certainly dedicated >>to his cause; I think he qualifies for "true believer" status.

    Where is the dividing line between a true believer and a fanatic? I
    would think that a true believer does not necessarily take action to
    promote his beliefs, while the fanatic shoves his ideas down the
    throat of anyone who might be listening.

    I think the basic problem is that cycling involves sharing the road
    and some people just haven't learned that their "right" to use a trail
    ends where someone else's use of the same trail begins.

    Oh well.

    That's a deep subject.

    pH


    Of the two terms I concede and change my opinion to "fanatic". That *does* seem more suitable....(but have never met him).

    pH

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