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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 17:44:45 2025
    I have trouble reading my Garmin 830 with my sunglasses on so I just bought a 1030 which had a bigger display.

    It only cost me $250 which underscores the point of Flunky using virtual rides to claim rediculous distances and speeds which no one his age could possibly do.

    I've already shown that I ride the averages shown in all of the bicycle statistical sites. So if Flunky really thinks that he does these distances and speeds all he has to do it buy a Garmin 530 which are easily available and PROVE it with his own Garmin
    data?

    This is underscoring the fact that I am not arguing that he rides or perhaps he is even more advanced than I am. But he tells everyone that I am slow when I am normal and he tells everyone that he is rediculously fast when he couldn't possibly be.

    We have been having these arguments for years and now it is down to the point of put up or shut up. Frank hardly rides at all and he is giving advice? He may be the very picture of an older touring rider. I could accept that. But his crap about helmets
    or road bikes must be tgaiken very much for what it is worth - as an opinion from a slow careful rider.

    Liebermann has now shown his advice to be worthless. What would cause him to comment on my rides when he can hardly sit on a bike let alone ride? I don't like to do him an injustice but he continues day after day!

    So come on Flunky - break your bank and get a Garmin and prove to us that you're riding 17 mph averages. Or 20 mph averages. Or 200 mile rides with 20 mph average speeds!

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Mon May 19 19:08:52 2025
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have trouble reading my Garmin 830 with my sunglasses on so I just
    bought a 1030 which had a bigger display.

    It only cost me $250 which underscores the point of Flunky using virtual rides to claim rediculous distances and speeds which no one his age could possibly do.

    I've already shown that I ride the averages shown in all of the bicycle statistical sites. So if Flunky really thinks that he does these
    distances and speeds all he has to do it buy a Garmin 530 which are
    easily available and PROVE it with his own Garmin data?

    This is underscoring the fact that I am not arguing that he rides or
    perhaps he is even more advanced than I am. But he tells everyone that I
    am slow when I am normal and he tells everyone that he is rediculously
    fast when he couldn't possibly be.

    We have been having these arguments for years and now it is down to the
    point of put up or shut up. Frank hardly rides at all and he is giving advice? He may be the very picture of an older touring rider. I could
    accept that. But his crap about helmets or road bikes must be tgaiken
    very much for what it is worth - as an opinion from a slow careful rider.

    Liebermann has now shown his advice to be worthless. What would cause him
    to comment on my rides when he can hardly sit on a bike let alone ride? I don't like to do him an injustice but he continues day after day!

    So come on Flunky - break your bank and get a Garmin and prove to us that you're riding 17 mph averages. Or 20 mph averages. Or 200 mile rides with
    20 mph average speeds!


    He has a Garmin just not an edge unit.

    You are not covering yourself in glory with this!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 22:40:38 2025
    On Mon May 19 19:08:52 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have trouble reading my Garmin 830 with my sunglasses on so I just
    bought a 1030 which had a bigger display.

    It only cost me $250 which underscores the point of Flunky using virtual rides to claim rediculous distances and speeds which no one his age could possibly do.

    I've already shown that I ride the averages shown in all of the bicycle statistical sites. So if Flunky really thinks that he does these
    distances and speeds all he has to do it buy a Garmin 530 which are
    easily available and PROVE it with his own Garmin data?

    This is underscoring the fact that I am not arguing that he rides or perhaps he is even more advanced than I am. But he tells everyone that I
    am slow when I am normal and he tells everyone that he is rediculously
    fast when he couldn't possibly be.

    We have been having these arguments for years and now it is down to the point of put up or shut up. Frank hardly rides at all and he is giving advice? He may be the very picture of an older touring rider. I could accept that. But his crap about helmets or road bikes must be tgaiken
    very much for what it is worth - as an opinion from a slow careful rider.

    Liebermann has now shown his advice to be worthless. What would cause him to comment on my rides when he can hardly sit on a bike let alone ride? I don't like to do him an injustice but he continues day after day!

    So come on Flunky - break your bank and get a Garmin and prove to us that you're riding 17 mph averages. Or 20 mph averages. Or 200 mile rides with 20 mph average speeds!


    He has a Garmin just not an edge unit.

    You are not covering yourself in glory with this!




    He CLAIMS to have a Garmin but then he doesn't know that you set up a smart trainer with power to weight ratio. Time after time he make statements that are so far off as to be laughable. If I were you I would hesitate to believe anything not substatiated
    by fact.

    Do you believe that all of those all of those cycling sources I cited were full of shit about age vs. average speed? He doesn't claim to be 10% faster, he claims to be more thabn 100% faster. Then it turns out to be "virtual rides" which is on a trainer
    without the presence of rolling resistance or wind.

    Is it your practice to believe fairey tales like that? OK, you find me obnoxious harping on these things. But I most CERTAINLY never started it. Liebermann was calling my description of a ride up a local canyon with a total claim of abvut 1200 feet a lie
    because he was looking at an undated photo on Google Earth!

    He also pretends to be an electronics engineer when he has never been able to work as one. Unless you count one job where he was a QC engineer and was so disliked that he was fired without a job reference.

    Krygowski worked one job as an industrial engineer. Now don't get me wrong, and industrial engineer setting up a workplace, assembly lines etc. is indeed a mechanical engineer but Frank was a maintenance engineer that was never called upon to exercise
    mechanical engnineering skills. It isn''t my quote when I say that "those who can, do, and those who can't, teach".

    Flunky spends his entire day on this group and comments on every posting. That says everything you need to know about him. He is nothing more than a EE that his company needs to sign off on paperwork. When I put a simple piece of C code on the group he
    couldn't understand it at all. All it did was blink light in accordance with battery level. Now he claims that he is a programmer.

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  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Mon May 19 19:14:38 2025
    On 5/19/2025 6:40 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon May 19 19:08:52 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have trouble reading my Garmin 830 with my sunglasses on so I just
    bought a 1030 which had a bigger display.

    It only cost me $250 which underscores the point of Flunky using virtual >>> rides to claim rediculous distances and speeds which no one his age could possibly do.

    I've already shown that I ride the averages shown in all of the bicycle
    statistical sites. So if Flunky really thinks that he does these
    distances and speeds all he has to do it buy a Garmin 530 which are
    easily available and PROVE it with his own Garmin data?

    This is underscoring the fact that I am not arguing that he rides or
    perhaps he is even more advanced than I am. But he tells everyone that I >>> am slow when I am normal and he tells everyone that he is rediculously
    fast when he couldn't possibly be.

    We have been having these arguments for years and now it is down to the
    point of put up or shut up. Frank hardly rides at all and he is giving
    advice? He may be the very picture of an older touring rider. I could
    accept that. But his crap about helmets or road bikes must be tgaiken
    very much for what it is worth - as an opinion from a slow careful rider.

    Liebermann has now shown his advice to be worthless. What would cause him >>> to comment on my rides when he can hardly sit on a bike let alone ride? I >>> don't like to do him an injustice but he continues day after day!

    So come on Flunky - break your bank and get a Garmin and prove to us that >>> you're riding 17 mph averages. Or 20 mph averages. Or 200 mile rides with >>> 20 mph average speeds!


    He has a Garmin just not an edge unit.

    You are not covering yourself in glory with this!




    He CLAIMS to have a Garmin

    I have a 745 and a 530. Strava lists the electronics the ride was
    recorded with.
    .

    but then he doesn't know that you set up a smart trainer with power to weight ratio.

    where the fuck did you come up with that? No, you don't "set up a smart trainer with power to weight ratio". The only set-up you do with a smart trainer is to enter your weight, then do a spin down calibration.

    Time after time he make statements that are so far off as to be laughable.

    Funny that the people I ride with post far higher numbers than me.

    If I were you I would hesitate to believe anything not substatiated by fact.

    By that metric, you're the most unbelievable person in this forum.


    Do you believe that all of those all of those cycling sources I cited were full of shit about age vs. average speed?

    You linked one blog that referenced untrained cyclist levels. Full of
    shit? no. Accurate in the context of this discussion? no. In our
    context, the chart from Andrew Coggin (the inventor of the FTP metric)
    is accurate and relevant.

    He doesn't claim to be 10% faster, he claims to be more thabn 100% faster.

    Per Andrew Coggins chart I'm on the low side of mediocre.

    Then it turns out to be "virtual rides" which is on a trainer without the presence of rolling resistance or wind.

    lol...sure, and you understand how virtual trainers work.....HAH!!!

    The rolling resistance is calibrated into the trainer during the
    spin-down, and the program will add drag to simulate headwinds. Zwift
    even offers offsets depending on the bike and wheels you select. Aero
    and TT bikes are given better CdAas, but climbing bikes are given less
    load on the climbs. Suffice it to say, a smart trainer is one helluvalot smarter than you are.


    Is it your practice to believe fairey tales like that? OK, you find me obnoxious harping on these things. But I most CERTAINLY never started it.

    Yes, you did start it.

    Liebermann was calling my description of a ride up a local canyon with a total claim of abvut 1200 feet a lie because he was looking at an undated photo on Google Earth!

    He also pretends to be an electronics engineer when he has never been able to work as one. Unless you count one job where he was a QC engineer and was so disliked that he was fired without a job reference.

    Krygowski worked one job as an industrial engineer. Now don't get me wrong, and industrial engineer setting up a workplace, assembly lines etc. is indeed a mechanical engineer but Frank was a maintenance engineer that was never called upon to exercise
    mechanical engnineering skills. It isn''t my quote when I say that "those who can, do, and those who can't, teach".

    Flunky spends his entire day on this group and comments on every posting.

    I do?

    That says everything you need to know about him. He is nothing more than a EE that his company needs to sign off on paperwork. When I put a simple piece of C code on the group he couldn't understand it at all.

    no matter how many ties you tell that lie, it will never become true.

    All it did was blink light in accordance with battery level.

    Yet you weren't aware of the system architecture vis integrated vs
    peripheral A/D converter.

    Now he claims that he is a programmer.

    I've never claimed to be a programmer. I've claimed the exact opposite.
    I've programed under my protestations. Fortunately I'm more than
    competent enough to get the system to work, as it has been for over 5
    years in our MfG automated test cell.

    I was absolutely bored to tears during that project. Thankfully, I'm
    only called into it now when they have high fallout in WIP.

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 16:26:05 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:40:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Is it your practice to believe fairey tales like that? OK, you find me obnoxious harping on these things. But I most CERTAINLY never started it. Liebermann was calling my description of a ride up a local canyon with a total claim of abvut 1200 feet a
    lie because he was looking at an undated photo on Google Earth!

    Totally wrong on every point. You started it by claiming that the
    road was too difficult to ride because it was buried in "deep mud". I
    late found the photo on YOUR Facebook account: <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1063064831504932&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>

    Cull Canyon is about 1,000 ft elevation gain. Close enough to your
    1,200 ft. However, I would expect that you would remember the name of
    the road: <https://ridgetrail.org/trail-section/east-bay-municipal-utility-district-lands-to-cull-canyon/>

    I had some difficulty trying to find the exact location where you
    claimed that Cull Canyon was impassible. You avoided my repeated
    questions as to the exact location of this "deep mud" at least 4
    times. I don't use Google Earth for close up views. I posted two
    Google Maps and street view links, which included two probable
    locations. You never indicated if I had found the correct location,
    but did provide some vague descriptions of the locations. These
    descriptions seemed more like at attempt to confuse instead of inform.

    He also pretends to be an electronics engineer when he has never been able to work as one. Unless you count one job where he was a QC engineer and was so disliked that he was fired without a job reference.

    Jan 23, 2022 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/9WEuMylDquc/m/pl81HMUrAwAJ> "Jeff, I was pulling your leg when I said that you weren't an
    engineer."

    I was never a QC engineer.

    I'm still waiting for your list of products that you claim to have
    "designed".

    Are you now getting enough attention?

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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