• Re: Major Taylor

    From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Fri May 30 06:18:01 2025
    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to Soloman@old.bikers.org on Fri May 30 06:25:00 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."


    --
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    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 09:47:36 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": ><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to Soloman@old.bikers.org on Fri May 30 09:59:05 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite;

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Fri May 30 10:28:04 2025
    On 5/30/2025 9:25 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, floriduh dumbass
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    In https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/xy8HyQvE/new-york-s-crackdown-on-ebikes#post16

    I wrote:
    "Braindead magatards like the floriduh dumbass will consistently look
    for a political scapegoat for any issue they have based their ignorant
    opinions on, as is shown by his parroting of magatard groupthink nonsense."

    Q.E.D.


    Not really "obscure": <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    You're replying to a kunich-esque willful idiot who ignores facts in
    favor of political fantasy.

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to Soloman@old.bikers.org on Fri May 30 07:46:24 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" <http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 12:15:03 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" ><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million,
    and some of them are in other countries.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Fri May 30 12:36:01 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:30:54 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 5/30/2025 12:15 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    ... a USA population of 3.5 million ...

    Wow. SMH


    Nice to know that you're still reading all my posts, looking something
    you can comment on.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Fri May 30 12:38:17 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:34:19 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 5/30/2025 10:28 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:

    "Braindead magatards like the floriduh dumbass will consistently look
    for a political scapegoat for any issue ...

    Yep. Just like with Tom Kunich. Nothing can be discussed without a hair >triggered right wing idiocy response.

    Krygowski has never been able to discuss my assertion that he's a
    narcissist.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 17:18:01 2025
    On Fri May 30 06:25:00 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski ><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."




    1.3 million subscribers is NOTHING. I'm sure that they will declare bankruptcy before long.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 17:30:30 2025
    On Fri May 30 07:46:24 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" <http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.




    1.3 million subscribers doesn't even pay for the printing costs. Who is paying the writers?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 17:35:37 2025
    On Fri May 30 10:28:04 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 5/30/2025 9:25 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, floriduh dumbass <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    In https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/xy8HyQvE/new-york-s-crackdown-on-ebikes#post16

    I wrote:
    "Braindead magatards like the floriduh dumbass will consistently look
    for a political scapegoat for any issue they have based their ignorant opinions on, as is shown by his parroting of magatard groupthink nonsense."

    Q.E.D.


    Not really "obscure": <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    You're replying to a kunich-esque willful idiot who ignores facts in
    favor of political fantasy.




    Give us that 600 miles at 20 mph average again.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 17:39:44 2025
    On Fri May 30 12:34:19 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/30/2025 10:28 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:

    "Braindead magatards like the floriduh dumbass will consistently look
    for a political scapegoat for any issue ...

    Yep. Just like with Tom Kunich. Nothing can be discussed without a hair triggered right wing idiocy response.




    Tell me Frank, who did Ohio vote for again? And you're saying "right wing" as if it is unusual. You and Flunky really need to ride virtual rides together.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Fri May 30 12:59:37 2025
    On 5/30/2025 12:18 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 06:25:00 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."




    1.3 million subscribers is NOTHING. I'm sure that they will declare bankruptcy before long.

    I'll take that bet.
    Set the wager and set a date.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Fri May 30 11:00:09 2025
    On 5/30/2025 6:25 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    <snip>

    Not really "obscure": <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    Great magazine. Long time subscriber. Haven't received that issue yet.

    --
    “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
    really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
    indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
    they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 14:32:39 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 11:00:09 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/30/2025 6:25 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    <snip>

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    Great magazine. Long time subscriber. Haven't received that issue yet.

    Not for me. I get more than enough junk mail as it is, and I don't
    need any more political propaganda.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to Soloman@old.bikers.org on Fri May 30 15:24:57 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:15:03 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" >><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million,
    and some of them are in other countries.

    You're off by factor of 100. The US population for 2025 is about 347
    million.
    <https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/>

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 18:34:34 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 15:24:57 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:15:03 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>>>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>>and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" >>><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million,
    and some of them are in other countries.

    You're off by factor of 100. The US population for 2025 is about 347 >million.
    <https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/>

    Yeah, I know. That makes the subscription rate even less impressive.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 15:47:40 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 17:30:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri May 30 07:46:24 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >> >>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation"
    <http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    1.3 million subscribers doesn't even pay for the printing costs. Who is paying the writers?

    Advertising and contributions usually pay most of the bills.

    <https://advertisers.mediaradar.com/the-new-yorker-advertising-profile>
    "The New Yorker is part of Advance Publications Inc.. They spent under
    $100 million on advertising in digital and print in the last year.
    They invest in premium ad units and advertised on over 50 different
    Media Properties in the last year across multiple Media formats. The
    New Yorker launched and advertised 6 new products in the past twelve
    months. We have 11 people on file in marketing roles at The New
    Yorker, and 1 at their agency."

    The New Yorker print circulation is 1.3 million magazines.
    725,000 are paid printed subscriptions.
    548,000 are paid digital subscriptions.
    There is some overlap because some subscribers get both digital and
    priinted subscriptions. There are also a small number that get
    complimentary subscriptions.

    <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/The-New-Yorker-Freelance-Writer-Salaries-E1418343_D_KO15,31.htm>
    "The estimated average salary for a Freelance Writer at The New Yorker
    is $82,604 per year or $40 per hour, but some professionals have
    reported earning up to roughly $139,632 per year (90th percentile).
    The typical pay range is between $63,093 (25th percentile) and
    $109,321 (75th percentile) annually."



    --
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    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to Soloman@old.bikers.org on Fri May 30 16:14:50 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 18:34:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 15:24:57 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:15:03 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>>>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>>>>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>>>and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the >>>>"This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" >>>><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million,
    and some of them are in other countries.

    You're off by factor of 100. The US population for 2025 is about 347 >>million.
    <https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/>

    Yeah, I know. That makes the subscription rate even less impressive.

    The largest magazine distribution in the USA: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation#United_States> is "AARP The Magazine" at 23.7 million per issue. By issue, that can
    be per week, per month, per year, quarterly, annual, etc.
    "The following list shows the 100 largest magazines in the United
    States by paid circulation as of 31 December 2023 based on data from
    the Alliance for Audited Media".

    3.5 million is smaller than 23.7 million, but hardly "obscure".

    You might also notice that "AARP The Magazine" and "The New Yorker"
    address different audiences with different number of prospective
    readers.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 16:18:15 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 16:14:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    The largest magazine distribution in the USA: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation#United_States> >is "AARP The Magazine" at 23.7 million per issue. By issue, that can
    be per week, per month, per year, quarterly, annual, etc.
    "The following list shows the 100 largest magazines in the United
    States by paid circulation as of 31 December 2023 based on data from
    the Alliance for Audited Media".

    3.5 million is smaller than 23.7 million, but hardly "obscure".

    You might also notice that "AARP The Magazine" and "The New Yorker"
    address different audiences with different number of prospective
    readers.

    Incidentally, "The New Yorker" publishes 47 print issues per year
    while "AARP The Magazine" publishes 6 print issues per year.


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 30 19:25:17 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 16:14:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 18:34:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 15:24:57 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:15:03 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>>>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>>>>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>>>>>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>>>>and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the >>>>>"This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" >>>>><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million, >>>>and some of them are in other countries.

    You're off by factor of 100. The US population for 2025 is about 347 >>>million.
    <https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/>

    Yeah, I know. That makes the subscription rate even less impressive.

    The largest magazine distribution in the USA: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation#United_States> >is "AARP The Magazine" at 23.7 million per issue. By issue, that can
    be per week, per month, per year, quarterly, annual, etc.
    "The following list shows the 100 largest magazines in the United
    States by paid circulation as of 31 December 2023 based on data from
    the Alliance for Audited Media".

    3.5 million is smaller than 23.7 million, but hardly "obscure".

    You might also notice that "AARP The Magazine" and "The New Yorker"
    address different audiences with different number of prospective
    readers.

    It seems that obscurity is a subjective evaluation. I think the NYer
    is obscure. You disagree. I'm OK with that.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to sms on Fri May 30 18:25:12 2025
    On 5/30/2025 11:00 AM, sms wrote:

    <snip>

    Great magazine. Long time subscriber. Haven't received that issue yet.

    Weird. Got that issue today. The cover story about Major Taylor is
    actually not in the print edition, you have to go online (subscribers
    only) to read it.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 31 19:50:21 2025
    On Fri May 30 15:47:40 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 17:30:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri May 30 07:46:24 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >> >>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >> >>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >> >>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation"
    <http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    1.3 million subscribers doesn't even pay for the printing costs. Who is paying the writers?

    Advertising and contributions usually pay most of the bills.

    <https://advertisers.mediaradar.com/the-new-yorker-advertising-profile>
    "The New Yorker is part of Advance Publications Inc.. They spent under
    $100 million on advertising in digital and print in the last year.
    They invest in premium ad units and advertised on over 50 different
    Media Properties in the last year across multiple Media formats. The
    New Yorker launched and advertised 6 new products in the past twelve
    months. We have 11 people on file in marketing roles at The New
    Yorker, and 1 at their agency."

    The New Yorker print circulation is 1.3 million magazines.
    725,000 are paid printed subscriptions.
    548,000 are paid digital subscriptions.
    There is some overlap because some subscribers get both digital and
    priinted subscriptions. There are also a small number that get
    complimentary subscriptions.

    <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/The-New-Yorker-Freelance-Writer-Salaries-E1418343_D_KO15,31.htm>
    "The estimated average salary for a Freelance Writer at The New Yorker
    is $82,604 per year or $40 per hour, but some professionals have
    reported earning up to roughly $139,632 per year (90th percentile).
    The typical pay range is between $63,093 (25th percentile) and
    $109,321 (75th percentile) annually."




    Why don't you send this to the New Yorker, Maybe they will give you a job as chief assistant propagandist. It there is something you don't know about, it is sure to be something you tell everyone about. Would you kike to place a bet on whether the New
    Yorker will be in business in 5 years? After all - you are absolutely sure that 1.3 million subscribers are worth multimillions from advertisers.

    I have said that you have made every important decision in your life wrong and something as simple as numbers of subscribers and running costs baffles you.

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Sat May 31 19:44:45 2025
    On Sat, 31 May 2025 21:32:22 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 5/31/2025 3:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    Would you kike to place a bet on whether the New Yorker will be in business in 5 years?

    I would!

    So would I, except that I don't gamble. In 5 years, I will be 82
    years old and Tom will be 86 years old. Collecting on a bet, when
    everyone is that old, will be problematic.

    The New Yorker is not an independent business. It's a "brand" owned
    by Conde Nast:
    <https://www.condenast.com/brands>
    Therefore, the bet would need to be whether Conde Nast remains in
    business as part of Conde Nast or if Conde Nast sells or licenses The
    New Yorker brand to a different conglomerate or equity capital group.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Sun Jun 1 08:52:09 2025
    On 5/31/2025 2:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 15:47:40 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 17:30:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri May 30 07:46:24 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>>>>> him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>>> and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation"
    <http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    1.3 million subscribers doesn't even pay for the printing costs. Who is paying the writers?

    Advertising and contributions usually pay most of the bills.

    <https://advertisers.mediaradar.com/the-new-yorker-advertising-profile>
    "The New Yorker is part of Advance Publications Inc.. They spent under
    $100 million on advertising in digital and print in the last year.
    They invest in premium ad units and advertised on over 50 different
    Media Properties in the last year across multiple Media formats. The
    New Yorker launched and advertised 6 new products in the past twelve
    months. We have 11 people on file in marketing roles at The New
    Yorker, and 1 at their agency."

    The New Yorker print circulation is 1.3 million magazines.
    725,000 are paid printed subscriptions.
    548,000 are paid digital subscriptions.
    There is some overlap because some subscribers get both digital and
    priinted subscriptions. There are also a small number that get
    complimentary subscriptions.

    <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/The-New-Yorker-Freelance-Writer-Salaries-E1418343_D_KO15,31.htm>
    "The estimated average salary for a Freelance Writer at The New Yorker
    is $82,604 per year or $40 per hour, but some professionals have
    reported earning up to roughly $139,632 per year (90th percentile).
    The typical pay range is between $63,093 (25th percentile) and
    $109,321 (75th percentile) annually."




    Why don't you send this to the New Yorker, Maybe they will give you a job as chief assistant propagandist. It there is something you don't know about, it is sure to be something you tell everyone about. Would you kike to place a bet on whether the New
    Yorker will be in business in 5 years? After all - you are absolutely sure that 1.3 million subscribers are worth multimillions from advertisers.

    I have said that you have made every important decision in your life wrong and something as simple as numbers of subscribers and running costs baffles you.

    I'll take that bet.
    New Yorker is not to my taste but it's well done for their
    readers who are strongly loyal and resubscribe for decades.

    How much? Even money or do you want to weight it?

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Sun Jun 1 10:09:09 2025
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 08:52:09 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 5/31/2025 2:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 15:47:40 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 17:30:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri May 30 07:46:24 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>>>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>>>> and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation"
    <http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    1.3 million subscribers doesn't even pay for the printing costs. Who is paying the writers?

    Advertising and contributions usually pay most of the bills.

    <https://advertisers.mediaradar.com/the-new-yorker-advertising-profile>
    "The New Yorker is part of Advance Publications Inc.. They spent under
    $100 million on advertising in digital and print in the last year.
    They invest in premium ad units and advertised on over 50 different
    Media Properties in the last year across multiple Media formats. The
    New Yorker launched and advertised 6 new products in the past twelve
    months. We have 11 people on file in marketing roles at The New
    Yorker, and 1 at their agency."

    The New Yorker print circulation is 1.3 million magazines.
    725,000 are paid printed subscriptions.
    548,000 are paid digital subscriptions.
    There is some overlap because some subscribers get both digital and
    priinted subscriptions. There are also a small number that get
    complimentary subscriptions.

    <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/The-New-Yorker-Freelance-Writer-Salaries-E1418343_D_KO15,31.htm>
    "The estimated average salary for a Freelance Writer at The New Yorker
    is $82,604 per year or $40 per hour, but some professionals have
    reported earning up to roughly $139,632 per year (90th percentile).
    The typical pay range is between $63,093 (25th percentile) and
    $109,321 (75th percentile) annually."




    Why don't you send this to the New Yorker, Maybe they will give you a job as chief assistant propagandist. It there is something you don't know about, it is sure to be something you tell everyone about. Would you kike to place a bet on whether the New
    Yorker will be in business in 5 years? After all - you are absolutely sure that 1.3 million subscribers are worth multimillions from advertisers.

    I have said that you have made every important decision in your life wrong and something as simple as numbers of subscribers and running costs baffles you.

    I'll take that bet.
    New Yorker is not to my taste but it's well done for their
    readers who are strongly loyal and resubscribe for decades.

    How much? Even money or do you want to weight it?

    I'm not a gambler, but I'll be happy to hold the money.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 3 06:10:26 2025
    On 5/31/2025 2:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 15:47:40 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 17:30:30 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri May 30 07:46:24 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
    <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-
    story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going >>>>>>>>> to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-
    magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion
    Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot  the cite;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016.  See the >>>>> "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation"
    <http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100.  Not great, but hardly obscure.

    1.3 million subscribers doesn't even pay for the printing costs. Who
    is paying the writers?

    Advertising and contributions usually pay most of the bills.

    <https://advertisers.mediaradar.com/the-new-yorker-advertising-profile>
    "The New Yorker is part of Advance Publications Inc.. They spent under
    $100 million on advertising in digital and print in the last year.
    They invest in premium ad units and advertised on over 50 different
    Media Properties in the last year across multiple Media formats. The
    New Yorker launched and advertised 6 new products in the past twelve
    months.  We have 11 people on file in marketing roles at The New
    Yorker, and 1 at their agency."

    The New Yorker print circulation is 1.3 million magazines.
    725,000 are paid printed subscriptions.
    548,000 are paid digital subscriptions.
    There is some overlap because some subscribers get both digital and
    priinted subscriptions.  There are also a small number that get
    complimentary subscriptions.

    <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/The-New-Yorker-Freelance-Writer-
    Salaries-E1418343_D_KO15,31.htm>
    "The estimated average salary for a Freelance Writer at The New Yorker
    is $82,604 per year or $40 per hour, but some professionals have
    reported earning up to roughly $139,632 per year (90th percentile).
    The typical pay range is between $63,093 (25th percentile) and
    $109,321 (75th percentile) annually."

    Why don't you send this to the New Yorker, Maybe they will give you a
    job as chief assistant propagandist.

    You might be interested in actually finding out what propaganda is
    first. Hint: what jeff wrote isn't propaganda (It's telling that you
    seem to think facts are propaganda).

    It there is something you don't
    know about, it is sure to be something you tell everyone about. Would
    you kike to place a bet on whether the New Yorker will be in business
    in 5 years?

    I'd also like to bet that that million dollar invest you claim to have
    is still only worth a million dollars in the next 5 years - the same as
    it has been for the past 5.

    After all - you are absolutely sure that 1.3 million
    subscribers are worth multimillions from advertisers.

    Apparently so is the New Yorker and Conde Naste. Why don't you take that "senior business consultant" skillset you somehow acquired with no
    college background (while you were designing medical electronics,
    building things for the space shuttle and "reading out" three libraries)
    and and tell them what they're doing wrong? If they _were_ going to fold
    in 5 years, that would certainly seal the deal.


    I have said that you have made every important decision in your life
    wrong and something as simple as numbers of subscribers and running
    costs baffles you.

    ok, mr "business consultant", If you seem to have some sort of innate understanding of the magazine business, run some quick numbers here
    showing the number of ads and the cost per ad that would be necessary
    for the New Yorker to be profitable, and then prove they aren't meeting
    the required revenue to meet profitability.

    Have you figured out how Zwift can calculate Crr and CdA for accurate simulations yet?

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to zen cycle on Tue Jun 3 08:07:31 2025
    On 6/3/2025 5:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 5/31/2025 2:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 15:47:40 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 17:30:30 GMT, cyclintom
    <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri May 30 07:46:24 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
    <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker
    magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/
    cover- story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist
    magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-
    defies- magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The
    American Legion Magazine
    and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot  the cite;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
    List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to
    2016.  See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of
    the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation"
    <http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100.  Not great, but
    hardly obscure.

    1.3 million subscribers doesn't even pay for the
    printing costs. Who is paying the writers?

    Advertising and contributions usually pay most of the
    bills.

    <https://advertisers.mediaradar.com/the-new-yorker-
    advertising-profile>
    "The New Yorker is part of Advance Publications Inc..
    They spent under
    $100 million on advertising in digital and print in the
    last year.
    They invest in premium ad units and advertised on over
    50 different
    Media Properties in the last year across multiple Media
    formats. The
    New Yorker launched and advertised 6 new products in the
    past twelve
    months.  We have 11 people on file in marketing roles at
    The New
    Yorker, and 1 at their agency."

    The New Yorker print circulation is 1.3 million magazines.
    725,000 are paid printed subscriptions.
    548,000 are paid digital subscriptions.
    There is some overlap because some subscribers get both
    digital and
    priinted subscriptions.  There are also a small number
    that get
    complimentary subscriptions.

    <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/The-New-Yorker-
    Freelance-Writer- Salaries-E1418343_D_KO15,31.htm>
    "The estimated average salary for a Freelance Writer at
    The New Yorker
    is $82,604 per year or $40 per hour, but some
    professionals have
    reported earning up to roughly $139,632 per year (90th
    percentile).
    The typical pay range is between $63,093 (25th
    percentile) and
    $109,321 (75th percentile) annually."

    Why don't you send this to the New Yorker, Maybe they
    will give you a job as chief assistant propagandist.

    You might be interested in actually finding out what
    propaganda is first. Hint: what jeff wrote isn't propaganda
    (It's telling that you seem to think facts are propaganda).

    It there is something you don't know about, it is sure to
    be something you tell everyone about. Would you kike to
    place a bet on whether the New Yorker will be in business
    in 5 years?

    I'd also like to bet that that million dollar invest you
    claim to have is still only worth a million dollars in the
    next 5 years - the same as it has been for the past 5.

    After all - you are absolutely sure that 1.3 million
    subscribers are worth multimillions from advertisers.

    Apparently so is the New Yorker and Conde Naste. Why don't
    you take that "senior business consultant" skillset you
    somehow acquired with no college background (while you were
    designing medical electronics, building things for the space
    shuttle and "reading out" three libraries) and and tell them
    what they're doing wrong? If they _were_ going to fold in 5
    years, that would certainly seal the deal.


    I have said that you have made every important decision
    in your life wrong and something as simple as numbers of
    subscribers and running costs baffles you.

    ok, mr "business consultant", If you seem to have some sort
    of innate understanding of the magazine business, run some
    quick numbers here showing the number of ads and the cost
    per ad that would be necessary for the New Yorker to be
    profitable, and then prove they aren't meeting the required
    revenue to meet profitability.

    Have you figured out how Zwift can calculate Crr and CdA for
    accurate simulations yet?


    I would bet that Mr Kunich has not read many, perhaps not
    any, issues of The New Yorker. And he likely does not know
    very many, if any, of their subscribers well.

    I have read a couple dozen issues over the years, as people
    who subscribe do share them. Not much to my taste, Roz Chast
    excepted, and definitely skewed leftish, but even I would
    not use the term 'propaganda' for The New Yorker. More to
    the point, they do what they do very well for their market
    segment and I would bet they remain a going concern (whether
    under Conde Nast or not) for a good long while. They have
    survived a dozen or more bicycle magazines already!

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to funkmasterxx@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 3 10:12:18 2025
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 06:10:26 -0400, zen cycle
    <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    ok, mr "business consultant", If you seem to have some sort of innate >understanding of the magazine business, run some quick numbers here
    showing the number of ads and the cost per ad that would be necessary
    for the New Yorker to be profitable, and then prove they aren't meeting
    the required revenue to meet profitability.

    That will be rather tricky. The New Yorker is owned by Conde Nast,
    which in turn is owned by S.I. Newhouse, which is owned by Advance Publications.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Publications>
    All the above companies are privately held, issue no stock and
    therefore are not required to publish quarterly 10Q financial
    statements. Advance Publications has a large list of subsidiaries,
    making The New Yorker a rather small part of the puzzle: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Advance_subsidiaries#Cond%C3%A9_Nast>

    The best I can find is the Conde Nast UK Profit and Loss report up to
    Dec 31, 2023: <https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00226900/filing-history>
    <https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00226900/filing-history/MzQ0NTEwMzI0OWFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0>
    The Conde Nast balance sheet starts on document Page 11. It looks
    like it only includes UK financials.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Wed Jun 4 05:13:31 2025
    On 6/3/2025 1:12 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 06:10:26 -0400, zen cycle
    <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    ok, mr "business consultant", If you seem to have some sort of innate
    understanding of the magazine business, run some quick numbers here
    showing the number of ads and the cost per ad that would be necessary
    for the New Yorker to be profitable, and then prove they aren't meeting
    the required revenue to meet profitability.

    That will be rather tricky. The New Yorker is owned by Conde Nast,
    which in turn is owned by S.I. Newhouse, which is owned by Advance Publications.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Publications>
    All the above companies are privately held, issue no stock and
    therefore are not required to publish quarterly 10Q financial
    statements. Advance Publications has a large list of subsidiaries,
    making The New Yorker a rather small part of the puzzle: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Advance_subsidiaries#Cond%C3%A9_Nast>

    The best I can find is the Conde Nast UK Profit and Loss report up to
    Dec 31, 2023: <https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00226900/filing-history>
    <https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00226900/filing-history/MzQ0NTEwMzI0OWFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0>
    The Conde Nast balance sheet starts on document Page 11. It looks
    like it only includes UK financials.

    It should be a breeze for our tommy!
    He wrote:
    "something as simple as numbers of subscribers and running costs baffles
    you. "

    The clear implication is that he has some in-depth understanding of the magazine business, and someone with that knowledge _should_ be able to
    do a bal-lpark guesstimate of estimating the advertising revenue
    necessary to profitably run a glossy print magazine with that number of subscribers.

    Seriously jeff, don't you know by now that tommy knows _every_ thing
    about _every_ thing?

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to funkmasterxx@hotmail.com on Wed Jun 4 09:45:29 2025
    On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 05:13:31 -0400, zen cycle
    <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/3/2025 1:12 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 06:10:26 -0400, zen cycle
    <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    ok, mr "business consultant", If you seem to have some sort of innate
    understanding of the magazine business, run some quick numbers here
    showing the number of ads and the cost per ad that would be necessary
    for the New Yorker to be profitable, and then prove they aren't meeting
    the required revenue to meet profitability.

    That will be rather tricky. The New Yorker is owned by Conde Nast,
    which in turn is owned by S.I. Newhouse, which is owned by Advance
    Publications.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Publications>
    All the above companies are privately held, issue no stock and
    therefore are not required to publish quarterly 10Q financial
    statements. Advance Publications has a large list of subsidiaries,
    making The New Yorker a rather small part of the puzzle:
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Advance_subsidiaries#Cond%C3%A9_Nast> >>
    The best I can find is the Conde Nast UK Profit and Loss report up to
    Dec 31, 2023:
    <https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00226900/filing-history>
    <https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00226900/filing-history/MzQ0NTEwMzI0OWFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0>
    The Conde Nast balance sheet starts on document Page 11. It looks
    like it only includes UK financials.

    It should be a breeze for our tommy!

    Agreed, especially when the breeze is powered by hot air.

    He wrote:
    "something as simple as numbers of subscribers and running costs baffles
    you. "

    Actually, calculating the number of subscribers is tricky. What does
    one do with complimentary free copies, varying media formats,
    libraries, discounts to distributors, shrinkage, and so on. The way
    these are handled are specified by circulation auditors. For example: <https://auditedmedia.com>

    The clear implication is that he has some in-depth understanding of the >magazine business, and someone with that knowledge _should_ be able to
    do a bal-lpark guesstimate of estimating the advertising revenue
    necessary to profitably run a glossy print magazine with that number of >subscribers.

    Circulation is only one factor in profitability. Having a large
    circulation is not a guarantee of being profitable.

    Speaking of guesstimates, I suggest viewing how Enrico Fermi was able
    to generate reasonable estimates based on minimal data: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtKfJ1Dv6ks> (15:50) <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjV1r4gkIi0> (9:50)
    The method might prove useful for estimating The New Yorker
    profitability.

    Seriously jeff, don't you know by now that tommy knows _every_ thing
    about _every_ thing?

    I really like one of Tom's methods. He proclaims that someone
    (usually me) does NOT know anything about a topic, and then declares
    that this implies that he knows that he is an expert on the topic.




    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 22:41:30 2025
    On Wed Jun 4 05:13:31 2025 zen cycle wrote:

    Seriously jeff, don't you know by now that tommy knows _every_ thing
    about _every_ thing?




    I never said that I know everything about everything. I said that I know a thousand times more about anything than you go. And you know a thousand times more about anything than Liebermnann does.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 22:48:04 2025
    On Sun Jun 1 08:52:09 2025 AMuzi wrote:

    I'll take that bet.
    New Yorker is not to my taste but it's well done for their
    readers who are strongly loyal and resubscribe for decades.

    How much? Even money or do you want to weight it?




    How do you turn a profit from 1.3 million and falling subscriptions? And high school graduates are using apps to read to them these days. $10?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 23:14:45 2025
    On Wed Jun 4 09:45:29 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    I really like one of Tom's methods. He proclaims that someone
    (usually me) does NOT know anything about a topic, and then declares
    that this implies that he knows that he is an expert on the topic.




    In fact, it means that my wild ass guesses are thousands of times more likely to be true than your Hitler inspired "education".

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 23:23:12 2025
    On Sat May 31 21:32:22 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/31/2025 3:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    Would you kike to place a bet on whether the New Yorker will be in business in 5 years?

    I would!




    OK, $1,000, that the New Yorker is gone in 5 years.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 23:20:56 2025
    On Wed Jun 4 13:03:14 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 6/4/2025 12:45 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    Actually, calculating the number of subscribers is tricky. What does
    one do with complimentary free copies, varying media formats,
    libraries, discounts to distributors, shrinkage, and so on.

    I've had the experience of not renewing a magazine subscription, yet
    having it continue to arrive for many, many months. I suspected at the
    time that it was a strategy for using an inflated subscriber count when selling advertisements. I think that's where the real money comes from.

    But yes, Tom in his brilliance should be able to account for that.




    Funny how I say the exact opposite of what you claim I do. And you do this on every subject. Does distorting reality show what you did in the classroom?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 23:27:48 2025
    On Fri May 30 06:25:00 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski ><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."




    I find it interesting how instantly you wished to change the subject away from a successful black man.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 9 00:09:31 2025
    On Fri May 30 16:15:18 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/30/2025 1:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 5/30/2025 12:18 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 06:25:00 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>> him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-
    downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."




    1.3 million subscribers is NOTHING. I'm sure that they will declare
    bankruptcy before long.

    I'll take that bet.
    Set the wager and set a date.

    Can I get in on this?

    I'm reminded of Tom's absolute certainty that Newsom would be recalled.
    I wish we'd bet on that.




    Only you could believe that a 32 billion dollar surplus reduced to a 27 billion dollar deficit is sound government management.

    If Californians cannot interpret those meanings, they are nothing less than a lost cause that President Trump has every right to cut off from Federal funding.

    There is a reason why I have money and you don't - I have common sense and you don't.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Sun Jun 8 19:16:52 2025
    On 6/8/2025 6:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat May 31 21:32:22 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/31/2025 3:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    Would you kike to place a bet on whether the New Yorker will be in business in 5 years?

    I would!




    OK, $1,000, that the New Yorker is gone in 5 years.

    8 June, 2030. You're on.

    Have you ever read even one New Yorker in its entirety?
    Like it or not (I don't) it's an unique thing. The people
    who do like it like it very much. And are rabidly loyal.


    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to Frank Krygowski on Mon Jun 9 11:20:50 2025
    On 6/9/2025 12:13 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 6/8/2025 8:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 16:15:18 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:

    I'm reminded of Tom's absolute certainty that Newsom would be recalled.
    I wish we'd bet on that.

    Only you could believe that a 32 billion dollar surplus reduced to a
    27 billion dollar deficit is sound government management.

    I didn't say that. I just pointed out that you were wrong in predicting Newsom would be recalled - just as you're wrong on countless other things.

    If Californians cannot interpret those meanings, they are nothing less
    than a lost cause that President Trump has every right to cut off from
    Federal funding.

    You choose to live there. Why not move to someplace where the residents
    share your views?

    There is a reason why I have money and you don't - I have common sense
    and you don't.

    Tom, nobody believes you are wealthy.


    lol...how much common sense did it take to claim 'half the chinese
    population was killed by the covid vaccine'?



    --
    Add xx to reply

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Mon Jun 9 10:43:11 2025
    On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 00:13:50 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 6/8/2025 8:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 16:15:18 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:

    I'm reminded of Tom's absolute certainty that Newsom would be recalled.
    I wish we'd bet on that.

    Only you could believe that a 32 billion dollar surplus reduced to a 27 billion dollar deficit is sound government management.

    Hey Tom. Is that the federal surplus, California surplus, or some
    other surplus? Got any sources? You might enjoy this article:
    "In major turnaround, California will have a budget surplus, Newsom
    says"
    (Jan 6, 2025) <https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/major-turnaround-california-surplus-newsom-says-20018643.php>
    "The budget outlook Newsom describes is a major turnaround from the
    $47 billion deficit last year and the $32 billion shortfall the year
    before."

    I didn't say that. I just pointed out that you were wrong in predicting >Newsom would be recalled - just as you're wrong on countless other things.

    If Californians cannot interpret those meanings, they are nothing less than a lost cause that President Trump has every right to cut off from Federal funding.

    You choose to live there. Why not move to someplace where the residents
    share your views?

    There is a reason why I have money and you don't - I have common sense and you don't.

    Tom, nobody believes you are wealthy.

    Tom's millions

    04/18/2021 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cgGQO6bPU8w/m/EKViBoe-AgAJ> "So I cashed in my stock options from a successful company and used
    that million dollars to pay for her treatment."

    12/25/2022 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/njA7DYpUtww/m/uTnjTb6DAwAJ> "I'm worth nearly two million now and can live almost entirely on my
    social security. Can you? Even with my expensive bicycle hobby I own
    less than $1,600 TOTAL. And I knocked my bank account down to just
    enough to cover emergencies since the Democrats are now attacking
    banks which will drive them into bankruptcy."

    12/30/2022 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/8F27oh1Cy4s/m/yHneeKi8BAAJ> "When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month
    I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month."

    01/07/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/2FS5CrA2NTs/m/3RMpAhArAQAJ> "Imagine that Frank believes me in misery with a sum worth of a
    million and a half dollars and no bills..."

    01/20/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/85qODEJbdFE/m/uHojwq_tAQAJ> "If I had not needed to cash in my stock option to gain cancer
    treatments for my mother and then getting a divorce, I would easily
    have been a multimillionaire. Instead I am only worth about a million
    and a half due to Biden's latest market recession."

    03/05/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/JG80Gv6eFz4/m/I5iXXkCRAgAJ> "Lou, I am worth a million and 3/4 dollars. Exactly what are you
    worth?"

    04/29/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/vRf9zk39jnc/m/Pccwf7dbBAAJ>
    "I was making up to a quarter of a million dollars a year while
    Krygowski was making $2.50 a day."

    05/08/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/Xe0OfRKbW30/m/COmHdGuLBgAJ>
    "I am now officially a millionaire aside from the investment in my
    home."

    06/02/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/zq7Xw0dOUx4/m/2vLwSWEKAQAJ> "Yesterday my investments made me over $20,000"

    06/24/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/5ePyZOO6V9g/m/SUaP7P6lAAAJ> "Last month I lost $7,000 from my investments. Bad news for them is
    that I still have well over a million dollars."

    08/11/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/xEhLHBZeFGU/m/m2CWQe6OAwAJ> "Actually I held a job at one firm for more than 20 years. It simply
    continued to change hands because we made products that people wanted
    and needed."

    08/15/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/B_hJoZNfAQAJ>
    "I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my investments which are
    now in protected tax free bond funds."

    11/15/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cowbx-VJiEI/m/uiPZshyECAAJ> "Yesterday I got my financial report and although I lost around
    $12,000 from the market being down, I still have a million in stable investments."

    02/15/2024 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/6t1qDqyJtsk/m/43AG-IZuAQAJ> "My latest investment report can in and it is !,114,000 or $13,000
    more than last month"

    10/21/2024
    <https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/w7VWgtiv/flunky#post17>
    "I just got my latest financial report and I am now close to $1.2
    million."

    11/14/2024
    <https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/twndhAxc/selling-used-bikes>
    (article missing in archive)
    Message-ID: <J7tZO.166$_Zee.9@fx39.iad>
    "Sure makes yoyu sad that my last financial report was down from the
    previous because of the uncertainties of the election and I was all
    the way down to $1,030,000.

    01/15/2025
    Message-ID: <ykVhP.814228$DPl.533594@fx13.iad>
    "I was indeed a professional consultant for Embarcadero Systems
    electronics department because the only people in the company that
    knew what they were doing were the technicians and the board designer.
    And THAT is the job that was paying me $223,000 a year."

    03/05/2025 <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=121640&group=rec.bicycles.tech#121640>
    "I GAVE $60,000 to my brothers... In order to protect my investments
    from any possible recession I have moved from growth stocks into fuds
    like Govertrnment bonds which pay low interest rates rather than
    growth. And I still have increased my investments to over $1.1
    Million."

    06/07/2025 <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=127251&group=rec.bicycles.tech#127251>
    "I'm sitting here with a total worth of about $1.7 million..."

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 17:36:36 2025
    On Mon Jun 9 00:13:50 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 6/8/2025 8:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 16:15:18 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:

    I'm reminded of Tom's absolute certainty that Newsom would be recalled.
    I wish we'd bet on that.

    Only you could believe that a 32 billion dollar surplus reduced to a 27 billion dollar deficit is sound government management.

    I didn't say that. I just pointed out that you were wrong in predicting Newsom would be recalled - just as you're wrong on countless other things.

    If Californians cannot interpret those meanings, they are nothing less than a lost cause that President Trump has every right to cut off from Federal funding.

    You choose to live there. Why not move to someplace where the residents
    share your views?

    There is a reason why I have money and you don't - I have common sense and you don't.

    Tom, nobody believes you are wealthy.




    Frank, exactly what do I care if you think I'm wealthy or not? My investment report just csme in yesterday and I had made $30,000 which brought me back to the point before the losses in April from the claimed stock market crash that never happened. The
    stock market is about to take off again from the all positive reports on employment, hiring, lower inflation, tgariff income and foreign investment to avoid paying tariffs etc.

    You were poorly paid to begin with and now with the Federal Government no longer subsidizibng foreign students most of them will be dropping out. No matter, since Youngstown was only giving them fake educations to get Biden's giveaways. With only actual
    students now what happens to your retirement pay?

    People were forced to buy into Social Security and Congress spent the entire built up SS funds. Now that there has been so much retirement SS cannot afford the normal yearly raises to account for inflation. You ,oh so, financially wise people cry that SS
    should not have been a privately owned corporation which would not be able to spend the funds like the Democrat Congress felt so comfortable with.

    Since I was smart enough to place my funds in privately held investment firms, it was only effected by the markets destroyed by the Democrat Congress and Obama. But the Federal government could only ruin the economy for so long before a rebound. I now
    have a comfortable cushion over a million and you're unable to have any effect on that beyond crying that I don't really have what I say. The fact is that you relied on a college plan that may have very well ruined your retirement while mine is safely
    and soundly out of reach of the government spend thrift ways.

    So YOU and anyone else that cares to believe that I am comfortably wealthy may by all means do so, but that doesn't in the least effect reality. Remember your past claims that I wasn't an engineer while I was earning engineering wages and in engineering
    positions that you could never hope to reach?

    Well, I have been offered over $200,000 per year to return to work but I am now retired and with my health issues have no desire to stop my cycling. Oh, that's right - 365 days per year in what you believe to be a hell hole. Well, I'm off to pay $50 or
    so for breakfast because according to you I'm flat broke.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 19:05:19 2025
    On Mon Jun 9 11:20:50 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 6/9/2025 12:13 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:


    Tom, nobody believes you are wealthy.


    lol...how much common sense did it take to claim 'half the chinese
    population was killed by the covid vaccine'?



    If you had a single brain cell in your head you would know that I never said that because the Chinese never used mRNA vaccines, The directly injected spike proteins into their population. While very poisonous the immune system immediately rejected this
    method and the REPORTS from Chinese visitors at all of the large cities is that traffic is very light and that pedestrian traffic is far lighter than has ever been observed before. Estimates from Chinese/American businessmen are that perhaps as much as
    half of the population were killed from the earliest version of Covid-19 or from starvation when the CCP reverted to welding the doors shut on the major cities apartment complexes which is the major housing.

    For someone that proclaims to know so much it isn't strange at all that it turns out that you know nothing.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 19:12:41 2025
    On Mon Jun 9 10:43:11 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 00:13:50 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 6/8/2025 8:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 16:15:18 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:

    I'm reminded of Tom's absolute certainty that Newsom would be recalled. >>> I wish we'd bet on that.

    Only you could believe that a 32 billion dollar surplus reduced to a 27 billion dollar deficit is sound government management.

    Hey Tom. Is that the federal surplus, California surplus, or some
    other surplus? Got any sources? You might enjoy this article:
    "In major turnaround, California will have a budget surplus, Newsom
    says"
    (Jan 6, 2025) <https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/major-turnaround-california-surplus-newsom-says-20018643.php>
    "The budget outlook Newsom describes is a major turnaround from the
    $47 billion deficit last year and the $32 billion shortfall the year
    before."

    I didn't say that. I just pointed out that you were wrong in predicting >Newsom would be recalled - just as you're wrong on countless other things.

    If Californians cannot interpret those meanings, they are nothing less than a lost cause that President Trump has every right to cut off from Federal funding.

    You choose to live there. Why not move to someplace where the residents >share your views?

    There is a reason why I have money and you don't - I have common sense and you don't.

    Tom, nobody believes you are wealthy.

    Tom's millions

    04/18/2021 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cgGQO6bPU8w/m/EKViBoe-AgAJ> "So I cashed in my stock options from a successful company and used
    that million dollars to pay for her treatment."

    12/25/2022 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/njA7DYpUtww/m/uTnjTb6DAwAJ> "I'm worth nearly two million now and can live almost entirely on my
    social security. Can you? Even with my expensive bicycle hobby I own
    less than $1,600 TOTAL. And I knocked my bank account down to just
    enough to cover emergencies since the Democrats are now attacking
    banks which will drive them into bankruptcy."

    12/30/2022 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/8F27oh1Cy4s/m/yHneeKi8BAAJ> "When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month
    I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month."

    01/07/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/2FS5CrA2NTs/m/3RMpAhArAQAJ> "Imagine that Frank believes me in misery with a sum worth of a
    million and a half dollars and no bills..."

    01/20/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/85qODEJbdFE/m/uHojwq_tAQAJ> "If I had not needed to cash in my stock option to gain cancer
    treatments for my mother and then getting a divorce, I would easily
    have been a multimillionaire. Instead I am only worth about a million
    and a half due to Biden's latest market recession."

    03/05/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/JG80Gv6eFz4/m/I5iXXkCRAgAJ> "Lou, I am worth a million and 3/4 dollars. Exactly what are you
    worth?"

    04/29/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/vRf9zk39jnc/m/Pccwf7dbBAAJ> "I was making up to a quarter of a million dollars a year while
    Krygowski was making $2.50 a day."

    05/08/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/Xe0OfRKbW30/m/COmHdGuLBgAJ> "I am now officially a millionaire aside from the investment in my
    home."

    06/02/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/zq7Xw0dOUx4/m/2vLwSWEKAQAJ> "Yesterday my investments made me over $20,000"

    06/24/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/5ePyZOO6V9g/m/SUaP7P6lAAAJ> "Last month I lost $7,000 from my investments. Bad news for them is
    that I still have well over a million dollars."

    08/11/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/xEhLHBZeFGU/m/m2CWQe6OAwAJ> "Actually I held a job at one firm for more than 20 years. It simply continued to change hands because we made products that people wanted
    and needed."

    08/15/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/B_hJoZNfAQAJ> "I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my investments which are
    now in protected tax free bond funds."

    11/15/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cowbx-VJiEI/m/uiPZshyECAAJ> "Yesterday I got my financial report and although I lost around
    $12,000 from the market being down, I still have a million in stable investments."

    02/15/2024 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/6t1qDqyJtsk/m/43AG-IZuAQAJ> "My latest investment report can in and it is !,114,000 or $13,000
    more than last month"

    10/21/2024
    <https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/w7VWgtiv/flunky#post17>
    "I just got my latest financial report and I am now close to $1.2
    million."

    11/14/2024 <https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/twndhAxc/selling-used-bikes>
    (article missing in archive)
    Message-ID: <J7tZO.166$_Zee.9@fx39.iad>
    "Sure makes yoyu sad that my last financial report was down from the
    previous because of the uncertainties of the election and I was all
    the way down to $1,030,000.

    01/15/2025
    Message-ID: <ykVhP.814228$DPl.533594@fx13.iad>
    "I was indeed a professional consultant for Embarcadero Systems
    electronics department because the only people in the company that
    knew what they were doing were the technicians and the board designer.
    And THAT is the job that was paying me $223,000 a year."

    03/05/2025 <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=121640&group=rec.bicycles.tech#121640>
    "I GAVE $60,000 to my brothers... In order to protect my investments
    from any possible recession I have moved from growth stocks into fuds
    like Govertrnment bonds which pay low interest rates rather than
    growth. And I still have increased my investments to over $1.1
    Million."

    06/07/2025 <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=127251&group=rec.bicycles.tech#127251>
    "I'm sitting here with a total worth of about $1.7 million..."




    Jeff, you're not dealing well with not getting enough on welfare now that the illegals are taking it all.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 19:36:58 2025
    On Fri May 30 15:24:57 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:15:03 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder >><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>>>>>him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the
    "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" >><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million,
    and some of them are in other countries.

    You're off by factor of 100. The US population for 2025 is about 347 million.
    <https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/>




    I'm still waiting for your taking my $1000 bet that "The New Yorker" will be out of business within 5 years. After all, you believe that a circulation of just over a million is "hardly obscure" despite half of those subscriptions either already or
    expected to become nothing more than Internet publications.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 19:41:32 2025
    On Fri May 30 16:18:15 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 16:14:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    The largest magazine distribution in the USA: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation#United_States>
    is "AARP The Magazine" at 23.7 million per issue. By issue, that can
    be per week, per month, per year, quarterly, annual, etc.
    "The following list shows the 100 largest magazines in the United
    States by paid circulation as of 31 December 2023 based on data from
    the Alliance for Audited Media".

    3.5 million is smaller than 23.7 million, but hardly "obscure".

    You might also notice that "AARP The Magazine" and "The New Yorker"
    address different audiences with different number of prospective
    readers.

    Incidentally, "The New Yorker" publishes 47 print issues per year
    while "AARP The Magazine" publishes 6 print issues per year.




    Liebermann - Boys Life has a higher subscription rate despite the dropping like a rock Boy
    Scout membership. You wouldn't know obscure if it bit you in the ass.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 19:45:36 2025
    On Fri May 30 19:25:17 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 16:14:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 18:34:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 15:24:57 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:15:03 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>>>>>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>>>>and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the >>>>>"This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" >>>>><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million, >>>>and some of them are in other countries.

    You're off by factor of 100. The US population for 2025 is about 347 >>>million. >>><https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/>

    Yeah, I know. That makes the subscription rate even less impressive.

    The largest magazine distribution in the USA: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation#United_States>
    is "AARP The Magazine" at 23.7 million per issue. By issue, that can
    be per week, per month, per year, quarterly, annual, etc.
    "The following list shows the 100 largest magazines in the United
    States by paid circulation as of 31 December 2023 based on data from
    the Alliance for Audited Media".

    3.5 million is smaller than 23.7 million, but hardly "obscure".

    You might also notice that "AARP The Magazine" and "The New Yorker"
    address different audiences with different number of prospective
    readers.

    It seems that obscurity is a subjective evaluation. I think the NYer
    is obscure. You disagree. I'm OK with that.




    I'm still trying to work my way through Liebermann's claims that the New Yorker prints 47 editions per yuear. Doesn't he understand printing costs for full color high quality paper magazines?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 20:14:25 2025
    On Fri May 30 19:25:17 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 16:14:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 18:34:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 15:24:57 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:15:03 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>>wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02

    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
    him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure": >>>>>>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."

    In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine >>>>>>>and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..

    Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.

    Sorry, forgot the cite; >>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation

    The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016. See the >>>>>"This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.

    This list seems a little better:
    "Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation" >>>>><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
    The New Yorker is 88 out of 100. Not great, but hardly obscure.

    A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million, >>>>and some of them are in other countries.

    You're off by factor of 100. The US population for 2025 is about 347 >>>million. >>><https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/>

    Yeah, I know. That makes the subscription rate even less impressive.

    The largest magazine distribution in the USA: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation#United_States>
    is "AARP The Magazine" at 23.7 million per issue. By issue, that can
    be per week, per month, per year, quarterly, annual, etc.
    "The following list shows the 100 largest magazines in the United
    States by paid circulation as of 31 December 2023 based on data from
    the Alliance for Audited Media".

    3.5 million is smaller than 23.7 million, but hardly "obscure".

    You might also notice that "AARP The Magazine" and "The New Yorker"
    address different audiences with different number of prospective
    readers.

    It seems that obscurity is a subjective evaluation. I think the NYer
    is obscure. You disagree. I'm OK with that.




    The New Yorker crippled itself by taking and EXTREME left stance on everything. That may have pleased the annointed New York audience of the time but EVERY prediction about a Trump Presidency has turned out vastely overstated if not entirely wrong.
    Almost the entire reduction in government departments was almost immediately snapped up by industry because they have a track record of knowing how to work even if none of it was used in government. And now they are actually accomplishing something and
    being paid for it. That is a great feeling.

    Do you think that this magazine who so greatly and purposely denigrated what is turning out to be millions of workers hero is going to be able to hang on to the small number of subscribers with post menopausal illnesses?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 20:57:54 2025
    On Fri May 30 12:59:37 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 5/30/2025 12:18 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 06:25:00 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
    <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02 >>>>
    He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.

    An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get >>> him much recognition.

    Not really "obscure":
    <https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
    "The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."




    1.3 million subscribers is NOTHING. I'm sure that they will declare bankruptcy before long.

    I'll take that bet.
    Set the wager and set a date.

    $10 within 5 years. I actually believe that it will occur much faster as Trump becomes more and more popular with the working man which forces the New York elite to move further and further left until they realize that, like that idiot Walz, they are
    injuring themselves and their cause, but like Gavin Newsom, I have been wrong with just how long it takes idiots to learn a lesson. Newsom NOW has a 1.5% national approval rating which means that he couldn't run successfully for dog catcher.

    Even in California he now has an approval rating of only 34% and in the 18-29 group it is nearly nil. These are the people who cannot find a job because of Newsom's policies and they are getting damned tired of seeing illegal aliens filling every doctor'
    s office via medical paid for my their taxes. The ship is slowly beginning to turn in favor of President Trump every additional high paying job added is taking someone with an engineering degree from standing behind a grocery store checkout counter to a
    more tolerable position.

    Every stupid comment coming from Newson's mouth reminds them now of being forced to wear masks that had no effect or take vaccines that had 1000 times higher serious side effect than were acceptable for ANY other vaccine in history except the initial
    rollout of the Polio vaccine. They are remembering pictures of Newsom sitting unmasked and drinking wine with multimillionaires while they couldn't even buy groceries without a mask.

    While he may be a hero to Liebermann and Flunky, he now hasn't a chance to even get through a primary but other Democrats will have to teach the state yet again that Democrats cannot be trusted.

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 15:22:10 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 19:36:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    I'm still waiting for your taking my $1000 bet that "The New Yorker" will be out of business within 5 years.

    I explained that when you previously attempted to lure me into a bet.
    Here's the link, replying to Frank, in case you've forgotten: <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=126703&group=rec.bicycles.tech#126703>
    Here's a copy of the text, so that you can't claim that your news
    reader won't let you read anything I've posted that disagrees with
    your assertions.

    #-----
    So would I, except that I don't gamble. In 5 years, I will be 82
    years old and Tom will be 86 years old. Collecting on a bet, when
    everyone is that old, will be problematic.

    The New Yorker is not an independent business. It's a "brand" owned
    by Conde Nast:
    <https://www.condenast.com/brands>
    Therefore, the bet would need to be whether The New Yorker remains in
    business as part of Conde Nast or if Conde Nast sells or licenses The
    New Yorker brand to a different conglomerate or equity capital group.
    #-----

    After all, you believe that a circulation of just over a million is "hardly obscure" despite half of those subscriptions either already or expected to become nothing more than Internet publications.

    I'm not worried because I'll have plenty of company as your fearless
    leader sinks the ship that's keeping us all afloat.


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 15:31:44 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 19:45:36 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    I'm still trying to work my way through Liebermann's claims that the New Yorker prints 47 editions per yuear.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Yorker>
    "The New Yorker is published 47 times annually, with five of these
    issues covering two-week spans."

    If you don't believe me, you can always ask your favorite AI. For
    example:
    <https://chatgpt.com/share/6848b19a-6be0-800c-a5b7-c768c07aa813>
    "The New Yorker publishes 47 issues per year.
    It is a weekly magazine, but it typically combines a few issues during
    the summer and holiday periods (e.g., a double issue for Christmas/New
    Year), which reduces the total from 52 to 47."

    Doesn't he understand printing costs for full color high quality paper magazines?

    You're right. I don't understand. Please explain how you know what I
    do or don't understand.

    Oops. I left my car door open. The neighbors cat is now digging
    through my groceries. Tom, if anything is lost, it's your fault.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Tue Jun 10 17:38:09 2025
    On 6/10/2025 3:26 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jun 8 19:16:52 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 6/8/2025 6:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat May 31 21:32:22 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/31/2025 3:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    Would you kike to place a bet on whether the New Yorker will be in business in 5 years?

    I would!




    OK, $1,000, that the New Yorker is gone in 5 years.

    8 June, 2030. You're on.

    Have you ever read even one New Yorker in its entirety?
    Like it or not (I don't) it's an unique thing. The people
    who do like it like it very much. And are rabidly loyal.




    Andrew, I worked in a rather high class industry with very high class people. The sort of people who had lots and lots of awards for their work. And they entrusted me with their actual jobs. Nobel Prizes when that still meant something were common.

    That means that their office waiting rooms all had The New Yorker Magazine before they made the mistake of taking the snobbish appeal of the New York City upper crust. So yes, I have read many New Yorker magazines from cover to cover. I cannot say that
    I much cared for their nose-in-the-air and the "Letters to the Editor" tended to be even worse than the editorial content, but I read them none-the-less.

    You cannot survive taking a magazine into the spectacularly left wing position of cover art of Trump as Mussolini without paying the price.

    It is my belief that almost ALL of the supposed common man comments that are so negative are entirely fomented by George Soros and Trump has rendered him impotent.

    Hence our wager.

    In 2030, US$1000 may buy a cup of coffee.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 00:10:49 2025
    On Tue Jun 10 15:22:10 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    So would I, except that I don't gamble. In 5 years, I will be 82
    years old and Tom will be 86 years old. Collecting on a bet, when
    everyone is that old, will be problematic.

    The New Yorker is not an independent business. It's a "brand" owned
    by Conde Nast:
    <https://www.condenast.com/brands>
    Therefore, the bet would need to be whether The New Yorker remains in business as part of Conde Nast or if Conde Nast sells or licenses The
    New Yorker brand to a different conglomerate or equity capital group.
    #-----

    After all, you believe that a circulation of just over a million is "hardly obscure" despite half of those subscriptions either already or expected to become nothing more than Internet publications.

    I'm not worried because I'll have plenty of company as your fearless
    leader sinks the ship that's keeping us all afloat.




    You have fluff where others have brains - we are speaking of whether the New Yorker magaine remains in print, not whether some mother company remains in business after they are forced to divest themselves of a dump truck

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 17:32:43 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 00:10:49 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue Jun 10 15:22:10 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    So would I, except that I don't gamble. In 5 years, I will be 82
    years old and Tom will be 86 years old. Collecting on a bet, when
    everyone is that old, will be problematic.

    The New Yorker is not an independent business. It's a "brand" owned
    by Conde Nast:
    <https://www.condenast.com/brands>
    Therefore, the bet would need to be whether The New Yorker remains in
    business as part of Conde Nast or if Conde Nast sells or licenses The
    New Yorker brand to a different conglomerate or equity capital group.
    #-----

    After all, you believe that a circulation of just over a million is "hardly obscure" despite half of those subscriptions either already or expected to become nothing more than Internet publications.

    I'm not worried because I'll have plenty of company as your fearless
    leader sinks the ship that's keeping us all afloat.

    You have fluff where others have brains - we are speaking of whether the New Yorker magaine remains in print, not whether some mother company remains in business after they are forced to divest themselves of a dump truck

    You lie (as usual). Your comment was:

    05/30/2025 <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=127460&group=rec.bicycles.tech#127460>
    "I'm still waiting for your taking my $1000 bet that "The New Yorker"
    will be out of business within 5 years."

    Notice your "...will be out of business within 5 years" comment.
    There's no mention about The New Yorker being out of print within 5
    years.


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 17:21:43 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 00:06:16 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    And when I said that I argued with her about this on the internet chat group it hurt Flunky's feelings to think that either she was too inportant a person to discuss her theories with or that I had to be lying that I argued with his Godess of Finance.

    Occam's Razor. You were lying. You never argued with Janet Yellen on
    some unspecified internet chat group. If you had, there would have
    been evidence of the argument available online. Try your luck at
    finding your "arguement" or your name: <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=janet%20yellen>



    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Tue Jun 10 18:45:53 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 21:11:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 6/10/2025 4:14 PM, cyclintom wrote:

    The New Yorker crippled itself by taking and EXTREME left stance on everything.

    That's bullshit, and it makes me think you've probably read very, very
    little of that magazine.

    That's what I thought. Then I found these: <https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-yorker> <https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-yorker/>
    which rate The New Yorker as hard left.







    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 19:05:27 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 20:14:25 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    The New Yorker crippled itself by taking and EXTREME left stance on everything. That may have pleased the annointed New York audience of the time but EVERY prediction about a Trump Presidency has turned out vastely overstated if not entirely wrong.

    Is The New Yorker liberal (left) or conservative (right)? Toss a coin
    perhaps?

    The New Yorker (10/18/2024)
    "How Biased Is the Media, Really?" <https://www.newyorker.com/news/fault-lines/how-biased-is-the-media-really> "The people who work in the media might be liberal, but the people who
    own the media companies are not, and they all want Trump to win not
    only to save on taxes but because Trump is good for the media
    business."

    Are The New Yorker readers liberal or conservative. From skimming a
    few articles, the readership seems to be mostly liberal.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Wed Jun 11 04:51:08 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 21:03:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 6/10/2025 1:36 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Jun 9 00:13:50 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 6/8/2025 8:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 16:15:18 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:

    I'm reminded of Tom's absolute certainty that Newsom would be recalled. >>>>> I wish we'd bet on that.

    Only you could believe that a 32 billion dollar surplus reduced to a 27 billion dollar deficit is sound government management.

    I didn't say that. I just pointed out that you were wrong in predicting
    Newsom would be recalled - just as you're wrong on countless other things. >>>
    If Californians cannot interpret those meanings, they are nothing less than a lost cause that President Trump has every right to cut off from Federal funding.

    You choose to live there. Why not move to someplace where the residents
    share your views?

    There is a reason why I have money and you don't - I have common sense and you don't.

    Tom, nobody believes you are wealthy.




    Frank, exactly what do I care if you think I'm wealthy or not?

    You care enough to repeatedly brag about it. But still, nobody believes it.

    Krygowski pretends that he speaks for everybody.... Not uncommon for narcissistic's.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Wed Jun 11 05:25:13 2025
    On 6/10/2025 8:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 00:06:16 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    And when I said that I argued with her about this on the internet chat group it hurt Flunky's feelings to think that either she was too inportant a person to discuss her theories with or that I had to be lying that I argued with his Godess of Finance.

    Occam's Razor. You were lying. You never argued with Janet Yellen on
    some unspecified internet chat group. If you had, there would have
    been evidence of the argument available online. Try your luck at
    finding your "arguement" or your name: <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=janet%20yellen>


    Yup. he could settle this simply and rapidly by posting a link to the
    facebook "argument". BTW, as with all of tommy's laughable claims, I
    wasn't hurt at all, I was amused by the idea that he though anyone would actually believe him.

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Wed Jun 11 10:43:40 2025
    On 6/10/2025 6:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 19:45:36 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    I'm still trying to work my way through Liebermann's claims that the New Yorker prints 47 editions per yuear.

    I'm still trying to work my way through how tommy doesn't understand the
    term "weekly".


    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Yorker>
    "The New Yorker is published 47 times annually, with five of these
    issues covering two-week spans."

    If you don't believe me, you can always ask your favorite AI. For
    example:
    <https://chatgpt.com/share/6848b19a-6be0-800c-a5b7-c768c07aa813>
    "The New Yorker publishes 47 issues per year.
    It is a weekly magazine, but it typically combines a few issues during
    the summer and holiday periods (e.g., a double issue for Christmas/New
    Year), which reduces the total from 52 to 47."

    Doesn't he understand printing costs for full color high quality paper magazines?

    You're right. I don't understand. Please explain how you know what I
    do or don't understand.

    Oops. I left my car door open. The neighbors cat is now digging
    through my groceries. Tom, if anything is lost, it's your fault.



    --
    Add xx to reply

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 15:58:56 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 18:45:53 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 21:11:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 6/10/2025 4:14 PM, cyclintom wrote:

    The New Yorker crippled itself by taking and EXTREME left stance on everything.

    That's bullshit, and it makes me think you've probably read very, very >>little of that magazine.

    That's what I thought. Then I found these: ><https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-yorker> ><https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-yorker/>
    which rate The New Yorker as hard left.

    //
    Factual Reporting: HIGH (1.4)
    //

    Yes, that would make it "left wing".
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to frkrygow@sbcglobal.net on Wed Jun 11 18:38:41 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 16:37:59 -0400, Frank Krygowski
    <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 6/11/2025 5:25 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 6/10/2025 8:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 00:06:16 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    And when I said that I argued with her about this on the internet
    chat group it hurt Flunky's feelings to think that either she was too
    inportant a person to discuss her theories with or that I had to be
    lying that I argued with his Godess of Finance.

    Occam's Razor. You were lying. You never argued with Janet Yellen on
    some unspecified internet chat group. If you had, there would have
    been evidence of the argument available online. Try your luck at
    finding your "arguement" or your name:
    <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=janet%20yellen>


    Yup. he could settle this simply and rapidly by posting a link to the
    facebook "argument". BTW, as with all of tommy's laughable claims, I
    wasn't hurt at all, I was amused by the idea that he though anyone would
    actually believe him.

    That is perhaps the weirdest part of Tom's posts. He seems to think
    people believe him!

    Kind of like how you think people beloieve you...

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 17 20:09:05 2025
    On Tue Jun 10 19:05:27 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 20:14:25 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    The New Yorker crippled itself by taking and EXTREME left stance on everything. That may have pleased the annointed New York audience of the time but EVERY prediction about a Trump Presidency has turned out vastely overstated if not entirely wrong.

    Is The New Yorker liberal (left) or conservative (right)? Toss a coin perhaps?

    The New Yorker (10/18/2024)
    "How Biased Is the Media, Really?" <https://www.newyorker.com/news/fault-lines/how-biased-is-the-media-really> "The people who work in the media might be liberal, but the people who
    own the media companies are not, and they all want Trump to win not
    only to save on taxes but because Trump is good for the media
    business."

    Are The New Yorker readers liberal or conservative. From skimming a
    few articles, the readership seems to be mostly liberal.




    Hey Liebermann, wantg my financial report at the end of the month? From the way my advisors are snapping up investments, the market has really baan growing. And employment is way up. Except for people like you.

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