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    On Sat May 31 20:26:51 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 5/31/2025 3:56 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri May 30 20:43:02 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:

    Zen is apparently the only one posting here who still races. He should
    take comfort in the fact that they found racing to be safer than badminton!

    And you don't find those numbers peculiar? What injuries are sustained in badmitten as opposed to riding down mountain passes in the rain at 50 mph?

    Well, Tom, the data I cited was injuries per 1000 hours activity for all
    the hours spent doing that activity. The bicycling data was for all
    hours riding bikes. What percentage of _your_ bicycling time is spent descending mountain passes in the rain at 58 mph? For most riders, the
    answer is zero - meaning your oh-so-scary fantasy is just a fantasy. IOW you're one of those avid cyclists who revel in "Danger! Danger!"
    warnings about your favorite sport. That's just weird.

    And what kind of injuries in badminton? (Or "badmitten" [sic])

    I think badminton is vaguely similar to pickleball, which the survey
    doesn't mention. Many of my club mates have taken up pickleball. As club safety chairman, I've noted we could use a separate pickleball safety chairman, because it's producing FAR more injuries than bicycling,
    despite club members accumulating much more time on bikes.

    Pickleball injuries I've heard of are severe back injuries (one guy is
    almost unable to walk weeks after that injury), double broken wrists,
    twisted knees, sprained ankles, mild head injuries, various abrasions
    and bruises and more. Most of those seem to be a result of falls, but
    some are just due to the sudden motions of lunging for the ball. I
    suppose it would be similar for badminton, but I'm not involved in
    either sport.

    BTW, Tom, if you disagree with the data, you should dig up better data. Nobody here has respect for your WAGs.




    I understand that you being a teacher and all makes you believe that you have access to all of the world's data. But exactly what makes you think that? What is and injury and how does it become reported as such? One of the necessities of being a teacher
    is the ability to totally turn off that part of your mind that has the least skepticism. And you're marvelous at it.

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