Hi all,
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my
tandem's bottom tube a couple of times. https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/accessories/bab-cables-
disconnectors? srsltid=AfmBOorh2jimj_mZVmrUvtHd0Eqi0YXAmUdIp2Ttxewb0wVsCGzGTDdV
I've tried increasing the force I apply to the set screw,
and just seem to
get broken/breaking strands. Is there anything I can do to
improve this
(e.g., treating the cable end with something before
inserting it into the
splitter)?
On 6/9/2025 8:19 PM, Ted wrote:
Hi all,
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my
tandem's bottom tube a couple of times.
https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/accessories/bab-cables-
disconnectors?
srsltid=AfmBOorh2jimj_mZVmrUvtHd0Eqi0YXAmUdIp2Ttxewb0wVsCGzGTDdV
I've tried increasing the force I apply to the set screw,
and just seem to
get broken/breaking strands. Is there anything I can do to
improve this
(e.g., treating the cable end with something before
inserting it into the
splitter)?
The head pulled off the wire? Uncommon nowadays. Buy name
brand (Shimano, Campagnolo, SRAM, Yokozuna, Jaguar) wires.
Or the other side? The splitter should normally press the
wire between the grub screw(s) and the aluminum bore enough
to deform the wire and press into the aluminum. Oil the
grub screw(s) so they press firmly with normal torque. If
the end is pointy, blunt it.
Failing all that I suppose a new splitter; they are not
expensive.
On 6/9/25 9:46 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/9/2025 8:19 PM, Ted wrote:
Hi all,
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my
tandem's bottom tube a couple of times.
https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/accessories/bab-cables-
disconnectors?
srsltid=AfmBOorh2jimj_mZVmrUvtHd0Eqi0YXAmUdIp2Ttxewb0wVsCGzGTDdV
I've tried increasing the force I apply to the set screw,
and just seem to
get broken/breaking strands. Is there anything I can do to
improve this
(e.g., treating the cable end with something before
inserting it into the
splitter)?
The head pulled off the wire? Uncommon nowadays. Buy name
brand (Shimano, Campagnolo, SRAM, Yokozuna, Jaguar) wires.
Or the other side? The splitter should normally press the
wire between the grub screw(s) and the aluminum bore enough
to deform the wire and press into the aluminum. Oil the
grub screw(s) so they press firmly with normal torque. If
the end is pointy, blunt it.
Failing all that I suppose a new splitter; they are not
expensive.
Yes, the cable end at the splitter. Thanks for the suggestions!
On Tue Jun 10 11:31:03 2025 Ted wrote:
On 6/9/25 9:46 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/9/2025 8:19 PM, Ted wrote:
Hi all,
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my
tandem's bottom tube a couple of times.
https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/accessories/bab-cables-
disconnectors?
srsltid=AfmBOorh2jimj_mZVmrUvtHd0Eqi0YXAmUdIp2Ttxewb0wVsCGzGTDdV
I've tried increasing the force I apply to the set screw,
and just seem to
get broken/breaking strands. Is there anything I can do to
improve this
(e.g., treating the cable end with something before
inserting it into the
splitter)?
The head pulled off the wire? Uncommon nowadays. Buy name
brand (Shimano, Campagnolo, SRAM, Yokozuna, Jaguar) wires.
Or the other side? The splitter should normally press the
wire between the grub screw(s) and the aluminum bore enough
to deform the wire and press into the aluminum. Oil the
grub screw(s) so they press firmly with normal torque. If
the end is pointy, blunt it.
Failing all that I suppose a new splitter; they are not
expensive.
Yes, the cable end at the splitter. Thanks for the suggestions!
I assume that you're speaking of a brake cable splitter. The brake cables of the length necessary for a tandem are a problem. They are normally too long for the distance from the front brake lever to the middle where the splitter is. This means thatyou have to cut the cable to fit thereby losing the soldered and secure end. Spliters also usually have too much room in them and hence tightening the cable end allows the end to flatten out and slip through the rounded off end of the screw tightening
But my problem wasn't brakes - it was my wife spinning 85 rpm when I am a lugger and tried to spin at 58 rpm. And she didn't like going downhill on a tandem. This finally ended with going back to singles.
On 6/10/2025 2:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Jun 10 11:31:03 2025 Ted wrote:
On 6/9/25 9:46 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/9/2025 8:19 PM, Ted wrote:
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my tandem's bottom tube a couple of times.
...The splitter should normally press the wire between the
grub screw(s) and the aluminum bore enough to deform the
wire and press into the aluminum. Oil the grub screw(s) so
they press firmly with normal torque. If the end is pointy,
blunt it.
Failing all that I suppose a new splitter; they are not
expensive.
Yes, the cable end at the splitter. Thanks for the
suggestions!
I assume that you're speaking of a brake cable splitter.
Tandems and travel bikes use splitters for gear wires only, not
brake wires.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 17:35:45 -0500,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 6/10/2025 2:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Jun 10 11:31:03 2025 Ted wrote:
On 6/9/25 9:46 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/9/2025 8:19 PM, Ted wrote:
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my tandem's bottom tube a couple of times.
...The splitter should normally press the wire between the
grub screw(s) and the aluminum bore enough to deform the
wire and press into the aluminum. Oil the grub screw(s) so
they press firmly with normal torque. If the end is pointy,
blunt it.
Failing all that I suppose a new splitter; they are not
expensive.
Yes, the cable end at the splitter. Thanks for the
suggestions!
I assume that you're speaking of a brake cable splitter.
No, shift cable.
Tandems and travel bikes use splitters for gear wires only, not
brake wires.
Well, oops. My tandem and my Ritchie Breakaway single each have a
splitter for the rear brake cable.
On 6/11/2025 7:00 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 17:35:45 -0500,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 6/10/2025 2:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Jun 10 11:31:03 2025 Ted wrote:
On 6/9/25 9:46 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/9/2025 8:19 PM, Ted wrote:
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my tandem's bottom tube a couple of times.
...The splitter should normally press the wire between the
grub screw(s) and the aluminum bore enough to deform the
wire and press into the aluminum. Oil the grub screw(s) so
they press firmly with normal torque. If the end is pointy,
blunt it.
Failing all that I suppose a new splitter; they are not
expensive.
Yes, the cable end at the splitter. Thanks for the
suggestions!
I assume that you're speaking of a brake cable splitter.
No, shift cable.
Tandems and travel bikes use splitters for gear wires only, not
brake wires.
Well, oops. My tandem and my Ritchie Breakaway single each have a
splitter for the rear brake cable.
Oh, that's unusual. Santanas, CoMotion and Panasonic travel
bikes for example don't do that.
The usual pattern is to slip the complete cable/casing assembly
out and stow it with the lever side when separated. (that's not
as simple for gear systems, hence splitters). Braking forces
are much greater than shift wires.
example:
https://www.yellowjersey.org/ssscan5.jpg
On 6/10/2025 2:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Jun 10 11:31:03 2025 Ted wrote:
On 6/9/25 9:46 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/9/2025 8:19 PM, Ted wrote:
Hi all,
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my
tandem's bottom tube a couple of times.
https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/accessories/bab-cables-
disconnectors?
srsltid=AfmBOorh2jimj_mZVmrUvtHd0Eqi0YXAmUdIp2Ttxewb0wVsCGzGTDdV
I've tried increasing the force I apply to the set screw,
and just seem to
get broken/breaking strands. Is there anything I can do to
improve this
(e.g., treating the cable end with something before
inserting it into the
splitter)?
The head pulled off the wire? Uncommon nowadays. Buy name
brand (Shimano, Campagnolo, SRAM, Yokozuna, Jaguar) wires.
Or the other side? The splitter should normally press the
wire between the grub screw(s) and the aluminum bore enough
to deform the wire and press into the aluminum. Oil the
grub screw(s) so they press firmly with normal torque. If
the end is pointy, blunt it.
Failing all that I suppose a new splitter; they are not
expensive.
Yes, the cable end at the splitter. Thanks for the suggestions!
you have to cut the cable to fit thereby losing the soldered and secure end. Spliters also usually have too much room in them and hence tightening the cable end allows the end to flatten out and slip through the rounded off end of the screw tighteningI assume that you're speaking of a brake cable splitter. The brake cables of the length necessary for a tandem are a problem. They are normally too long for the distance from the front brake lever to the middle where the splitter is. This means that
But my problem wasn't brakes - it was my wife spinning 85 rpm when I am a lugger and tried to spin at 58 rpm. And she didn't like going downhill on a tandem. This finally ended with going back to singles.
Tandems and travel bikes use splitters for gear wires only,
not brake wires.
On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 08:26:32 -0500,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 6/11/2025 7:00 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 17:35:45 -0500,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 6/10/2025 2:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Jun 10 11:31:03 2025 Ted wrote:
On 6/9/25 9:46 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/9/2025 8:19 PM, Ted wrote:
I've recently had the shift cable end pull out of the
splitter under my tandem's bottom tube a couple of times.
...The splitter should normally press the wire between the
grub screw(s) and the aluminum bore enough to deform the
wire and press into the aluminum. Oil the grub screw(s) so
they press firmly with normal torque. If the end is pointy,
blunt it.
Failing all that I suppose a new splitter; they are not
expensive.
Yes, the cable end at the splitter. Thanks for the
suggestions!
I assume that you're speaking of a brake cable splitter.
No, shift cable.
Tandems and travel bikes use splitters for gear wires only, not
brake wires.
Well, oops. My tandem and my Ritchie Breakaway single each have a
splitter for the rear brake cable.
Oh, that's unusual. Santanas, CoMotion and Panasonic travel
bikes for example don't do that.
Really? Mine is a Santana and it came new with the brake cable
splitter. Maybe that's something the dealer did.
The usual pattern is to slip the complete cable/casing assembly
out and stow it with the lever side when separated. (that's not
as simple for gear systems, hence splitters). Braking forces
are much greater than shift wires.
example:
https://www.yellowjersey.org/ssscan5.jpg
I'm having trouble seeing it. Without a splitter, wouldn't the
brake cable have to be detached from the rear brake to split the
bike?
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