Seems the initiating incident was a dooring by a Waymo passenger on the driver's side. I don't know how this is handled with human drivers, can
a driver be cited for failing to control a passenger? After that the
cyclist alleges a second Waymo cut her off while heading for the curb.
At that point
The bike hit the first car’s open door, ejecting the cyclist, and she
was thrown into the passenger side of the second car. She suffered
"serious" injuries and was taken to a hospital by ambulance, the
complaint says.
https://www.siliconvalley.com/2025/06/10/san-francisco-bicyclist-crash-waymo/
I have never seen a Waymo operating, and can't judge how dangerous they
might be compared to human drivers.
Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
Seems the initiating incident was a dooring by a Waymo passenger on the
driver's side. I don't know how this is handled with human drivers, can
a driver be cited for failing to control a passenger? After that the
cyclist alleges a second Waymo cut her off while heading for the curb.
At that point
Transport for london buses and black cabs and mini cabs absolutely get into trouble for allowing someone to exit in an unsafe location, it’s also an easy personal insurance claim!
Someone I knew had this happened to him, in Kingston one way system he was
in one of the lanes and someone (young woman) opened the door to exit the car, and doored him, causing significant and life changing injuries, mainly torn his arm open and is grip was never what it was.
Her insurance folded absolutely no defence, and the police where quite keen to proceed with a case but he didn’t feel it was worth it, she was young and utterly horrified at what she had done, so he didn’t see the value in that.
The bike hit the first car’s open door, ejecting the cyclist, and she >> was thrown into the passenger side of the second car. She sufferedI believe all of the self driving vehicles like consistency so don’t like pedestrian and cyclists and so on, hence the much easier lane assist processing much faster.
"serious" injuries and was taken to a hospital by ambulance, the
complaint says.
https://www.siliconvalley.com/2025/06/10/san-francisco-bicyclist-crash-waymo/
I have never seen a Waymo operating, and can't judge how dangerous they
might be compared to human drivers.
Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> writes:
Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
Seems the initiating incident was a dooring by a Waymo passenger on the
driver's side. I don't know how this is handled with human drivers, can >>> a driver be cited for failing to control a passenger? After that the
cyclist alleges a second Waymo cut her off while heading for the curb.
At that point
Transport for london buses and black cabs and mini cabs absolutely get into >> trouble for allowing someone to exit in an unsafe location, it’s also an >> easy personal insurance claim!
Suppose it's a reasonable location, but someone on a bicycle happens to
be riding by? If the driver opens his door he's clearly at fault. Less clear to me if it is a passenger, perhaps disregarding the professional driver's advice.
Someone I knew had this happened to him, in Kingston one way system he was >> in one of the lanes and someone (young woman) opened the door to exit the
car, and doored him, causing significant and life changing injuries, mainly >> torn his arm open and is grip was never what it was.
Her insurance folded absolutely no defence, and the police where quite keen >> to proceed with a case but he didn’t feel it was worth it, she was young >> and utterly horrified at what she had done, so he didn’t see the value in >> that.
Was she a passenger? I don't know what a "one way system" is.
The bike hit the first car’s open door, ejecting the cyclist, and sheI believe all of the self driving vehicles like consistency so don’t like >> pedestrian and cyclists and so on, hence the much easier lane assist
was thrown into the passenger side of the second car. She suffered
"serious" injuries and was taken to a hospital by ambulance, the
complaint says.
https://www.siliconvalley.com/2025/06/10/san-francisco-bicyclist-crash-waymo/
I have never seen a Waymo operating, and can't judge how dangerous they
might be compared to human drivers.
processing much faster.
Eventually we'll all be required to be implanted with radio
transponders, and transportation efficiency will reach undreamt of highs.
Seems the initiating incident was a dooring by a Waymo passenger on the driver's side. I don't know how this is handled with human drivers, can
a driver be cited for failing to control a passenger? After that the
cyclist alleges a second Waymo cut her off while heading for the curb.
At that point
The bike hit the first car?s open door, ejecting the cyclist, and she
was thrown into the passenger side of the second car. She suffered
"serious" injuries and was taken to a hospital by ambulance, the
complaint says.
https://www.siliconvalley.com/2025/06/10/san-francisco-bicyclist-crash-waymo/
I have never seen a Waymo operating, and can't judge how dangerous they
might be compared to human drivers.
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