https://www.electricmotorengineering.com/the-first-forged-carbon-monocoque-bike-frame-with-a-fully-integrated-power-unit/

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On 10 Jul 2025 17:26:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

https://www.electricmotorengineering.com/the-first-forged-carbon-monocoque-bike-frame-with-a-fully-integrated-power-unit/

Not convinced that it’s a good idea, as motors absolutely do fail, >particularly in wet environments, and with full fat E MTB doesn’t seem to >bother folks with the slightest that it’s a bit chunky.

Maybe on the road/Gravel side or some of the lighter E MTB, but even so not >particularly convincing.

Roger Merriman

There's lots of ebikes on the trails where I ride. Last summer, I had
the pleasure of seeing an ebiker wheeling his heavy, 16 inch fat tired
piece of sh*t. He tried to flag me down. I waved back as I passed him.

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Soloman

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On 7/10/2025 12:26 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

https://www.electricmotorengineering.com/the-first-forged-carbon-monocoque-bike-frame-with-a-fully-integrated-power-unit/

Not convinced that it’s a good idea, as motors absolutely do fail, particularly in wet environments, and with full fat E MTB doesn’t seem to bother folks with the slightest that it’s a bit chunky.

Maybe on the road/Gravel side or some of the lighter E MTB, but even so not particularly convincing.

Roger Merriman

As Yoshi Shimano famously said at this point in a similar
conversation long ago, "It's for selling."

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Andrew Muzi
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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

https://www.electricmotorengineering.com/the-first-forged-carbon-monocoque-bike-frame-with-a-fully-integrated-power-unit/

Not convinced that it’s a good idea, as motors absolutely do fail, particularly in wet environments, and with full fat E MTB doesn’t seem to bother folks with the slightest that it’s a bit chunky.

Maybe on the road/Gravel side or some of the lighter E MTB, but even so not particularly convincing.

Roger Merriman

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