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    From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 17 11:56:57 2025
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/josh-poertner-hookless-rims-are-a-scam?>

    And

    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/swiss-side-open-letter-to-uci>

    I’m with hookless less than convinced it’s the right choice with a low recommendation max pressure of 72psi for road use, as while there are 40mm tyres most seem to around the 30mm mark.

    Even with MTB it does lower the max pressure though apparently does allow stronger rims, though depends on your use case, it’s less of an issue with lower pressures.

    And unsurprisingly Swiss Side and probably others are less than happy with
    the UCI rules on max rim depth, as well time/money to design a rim.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Mark J cleary@21:1/5 to Roger Merriman on Thu Jul 17 10:05:54 2025
    On 7/17/2025 6:56 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/josh-poertner-hookless-rims-are-a-scam?>

    And

    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/swiss-side-open-letter-to-uci>

    I’m with hookless less than convinced it’s the right choice with a low recommendation max pressure of 72psi for road use, as while there are 40mm tyres most seem to around the 30mm mark.

    Even with MTB it does lower the max pressure though apparently does allow stronger rims, though depends on your use case, it’s less of an issue with lower pressures.

    And unsurprisingly Swiss Side and probably others are less than happy with the UCI rules on max rim depth, as well time/money to design a rim.

    Roger Merriman
    i need hooked rims and will never go hookless. No advantage and only a
    downside that is not a good happening.

    --
    Deacon Mark

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Mark J cleary on Thu Jul 17 10:33:54 2025
    On 7/17/2025 10:05 AM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 7/17/2025 6:56 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/josh-poertner-hookless-
    rims-are-a-scam?>

    And

    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/swiss-side-open-letter-to-


    I’m with hookless less than convinced it’s the right
    choice with a low
    recommendation max pressure of 72psi for road use, as
    while there are 40mm
    tyres most seem to around the 30mm mark.

    Even with MTB it does lower the max pressure though
    apparently does allow
    stronger rims, though depends on your use case, it’s less
    of an issue with
    lower pressures.

    And unsurprisingly Swiss Side and probably others are less
    than happy with
    the UCI rules on max rim depth, as well time/money to
    design a rim.

    Roger Merriman
    i need hooked rims and will never go hookless. No advantage
    and only a downside that is not a good happening.


    +1
    The original Mavic E hooked rim was a significant
    breakthrough design, bringing a hooked edge to metric series
    rims. People forget how bad things were before that.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to Roger Merriman on Fri Jul 18 05:37:51 2025
    On 7/17/2025 7:56 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/josh-poertner-hookless-rims-are-a-scam?>

    And

    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/swiss-side-open-letter-to-uci>

    I’m with hookless less than convinced it’s the right choice with a low recommendation max pressure of 72psi for road use, as while there are 40mm tyres most seem to around the 30mm mark.

    Even with MTB it does lower the max pressure though apparently does allow stronger rims, though depends on your use case, it’s less of an issue with lower pressures.

    And unsurprisingly Swiss Side and probably others are less than happy with the UCI rules on max rim depth, as well time/money to design a rim.

    Roger Merriman

    They seem to work, but except for very few limited applications don't
    seem to be worth the effort of buying a new set of wheels with
    compatible tires. I wouldn't go so far as to call them a scam, but the
    last thing I need right now are more wheels.

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to zen cycle on Fri Jul 18 18:06:06 2025
    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/17/2025 7:56 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/josh-poertner-hookless-rims-are-a-scam?>

    And

    <https://www.bikeradar.com/news/swiss-side-open-letter-to-uci>

    I’m with hookless less than convinced it’s the right choice with a low >> recommendation max pressure of 72psi for road use, as while there are 40mm >> tyres most seem to around the 30mm mark.

    Even with MTB it does lower the max pressure though apparently does allow
    stronger rims, though depends on your use case, it’s less of an issue with >> lower pressures.

    And unsurprisingly Swiss Side and probably others are less than happy with >> the UCI rules on max rim depth, as well time/money to design a rim.

    Roger Merriman

    They seem to work, but except for very few limited applications don't
    seem to be worth the effort of buying a new set of wheels with
    compatible tires. I wouldn't go so far as to call them a scam, but the
    last thing I need right now are more wheels.


    I don’t have spare wheels, though the Gravel and MTB could swap wheels! But in both cases hookless pluses seem more for the manufacturers than the
    user. Maybe folks riding DH world cups but I’d be unlikely to manage to
    even ride the course!

    Roger Merriman

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