I've been to Colorado many times, but I've never seen so many
bicyclists peddling up the mountains as I did on this trip.
In an outdoor restaurant in Green Mountain Falls, near where my
Wisconsin family reunion party were staying, we talked to a couple
from Wisconsin. They come to Colorado annually to ride some of the
mountain trails in the area. They'd just ridden the Gold Camp
Stagecoach Roads trip to Cripple Creek.
I looked it up and regret that I'd usually gone hiking in Colorado and
didn't ride any of the mountain trails. I don't recall seeing many
bicyclists on my hiking, but I do recall seeing a couple of bicyclists
on the Barr trail up to Pikes Peak. I was impressed, since I was
struggling in the thin air just walking.
The Gold Camp Stagecoach Roads would have been considerably easier
than the Barr Trail. I don't believe I'd have had any problems with
that 50 years ago.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Barr trail is Pikes peak yes? I assume the Stagecoach road goes past, so >possibly less steep/high? Though it’s considerable height that area.
I've been to Colorado many times, but I've never seen so many
bicyclists peddling up the mountains as I did on this trip.
In an outdoor restaurant in Green Mountain Falls, near where my
Wisconsin family reunion party were staying, we talked to a couple
from Wisconsin. They come to Colorado annually to ride some of the
mountain trails in the area. They'd just ridden the Gold Camp
Stagecoach Roads trip to Cripple Creek.
I looked it up and regret that I'd usually gone hiking in Colorado and
didn't ride any of the mountain trails. I don't recall seeing many
bicyclists on my hiking, but I do recall seeing a couple of bicyclists
on the Barr trail up to Pikes Peak. I was impressed, since I was
struggling in the thin air just walking.
The Gold Camp Stagecoach Roads would have been considerably easier
than the Barr Trail. I don't believe I'd have had any problems with
that 50 years ago.
Certainly climbing the Peak even from ground level which I’ve done with Mt >Teide ie 20 something mile climb up, which takes a few hours, and while it >can be easier or harder due to the distance let alone altitude it’s a big
day out.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
On 26 Jul 2025 23:30:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Barr trail is Pikes peak yes? I assume the Stagecoach road goes past, so
I've been to Colorado many times, but I've never seen so many
bicyclists peddling up the mountains as I did on this trip.
In an outdoor restaurant in Green Mountain Falls, near where my
Wisconsin family reunion party were staying, we talked to a couple
from Wisconsin. They come to Colorado annually to ride some of the
mountain trails in the area. They'd just ridden the Gold Camp
Stagecoach Roads trip to Cripple Creek.
I looked it up and regret that I'd usually gone hiking in Colorado and
didn't ride any of the mountain trails. I don't recall seeing many
bicyclists on my hiking, but I do recall seeing a couple of bicyclists
on the Barr trail up to Pikes Peak. I was impressed, since I was
struggling in the thin air just walking.
The Gold Camp Stagecoach Roads would have been considerably easier
than the Barr Trail. I don't believe I'd have had any problems with
that 50 years ago.
possibly less steep/high? Though itÂ’s considerable height that area.
Certainly climbing the Peak even from ground level which IÂ’ve done with Mt >> Teide ie 20 something mile climb up, which takes a few hours, and while it >> can be easier or harder due to the distance let alone altitude itÂ’s a big >> day out.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
The Stage Coach trail is down in the foothills. The Barr trail is 12.6
miles long and begins in Manatou Springs (6,400 feet) and goes all the
way to the top of Pikes Peak, (14,100 feet) I hiked it up and down in
1971 when I was 26 years old. Last week we rode the cog railroad to
the top.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On 26 Jul 2025 23:30:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Barr trail is Pikes peak yes? I assume the Stagecoach road goes past, so >>> possibly less steep/high? Though it?s considerable height that area.
I've been to Colorado many times, but I've never seen so many
bicyclists peddling up the mountains as I did on this trip.
In an outdoor restaurant in Green Mountain Falls, near where my
Wisconsin family reunion party were staying, we talked to a couple
from Wisconsin. They come to Colorado annually to ride some of the
mountain trails in the area. They'd just ridden the Gold Camp
Stagecoach Roads trip to Cripple Creek.
I looked it up and regret that I'd usually gone hiking in Colorado and >>>> didn't ride any of the mountain trails. I don't recall seeing many
bicyclists on my hiking, but I do recall seeing a couple of bicyclists >>>> on the Barr trail up to Pikes Peak. I was impressed, since I was
struggling in the thin air just walking.
The Gold Camp Stagecoach Roads would have been considerably easier
than the Barr Trail. I don't believe I'd have had any problems with
that 50 years ago.
Certainly climbing the Peak even from ground level which I?ve done with Mt >>> Teide ie 20 something mile climb up, which takes a few hours, and while it >>> can be easier or harder due to the distance let alone altitude it?s a big >>> day out.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
The Stage Coach trail is down in the foothills. The Barr trail is 12.6
miles long and begins in Manatou Springs (6,400 feet) and goes all the
way to the top of Pikes Peak, (14,100 feet) I hiked it up and down in
1971 when I was 26 years old. Last week we rode the cog railroad to
the top.
Is a railway up to Yr Wyddfa with a cogged drive, I’ve pondered it as I’d
be unable to walk it now.
But it’s a busy location understandably as North Wales like the Lake
District has easy access for number of Cities, unlike the Brecon Beacons >which has limited road access so only Pen Y Fan gets busy and only the >Stormyarms side.
Some folks do ride Yr Wyddfa though it has a voluntary 10am/8pm cut off for >biking and the trails are steep and rocky so it’s hike a bike for all but
the most talented (technical skill) even with a E bike due to the rocky >nature.
Doesn’t particularly appeal though am planning on catching the Tour of >Britain in Wales, which probably will require a MTB to get to different >spots.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
On 27 Jul 2025 12:51:52 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On 26 Jul 2025 23:30:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Barr trail is Pikes peak yes? I assume the Stagecoach road goes past, so >>>> possibly less steep/high? Though it?s considerable height that area.
I've been to Colorado many times, but I've never seen so many
bicyclists peddling up the mountains as I did on this trip.
In an outdoor restaurant in Green Mountain Falls, near where my
Wisconsin family reunion party were staying, we talked to a couple
from Wisconsin. They come to Colorado annually to ride some of the
mountain trails in the area. They'd just ridden the Gold Camp
Stagecoach Roads trip to Cripple Creek.
I looked it up and regret that I'd usually gone hiking in Colorado and >>>>> didn't ride any of the mountain trails. I don't recall seeing many
bicyclists on my hiking, but I do recall seeing a couple of bicyclists >>>>> on the Barr trail up to Pikes Peak. I was impressed, since I was
struggling in the thin air just walking.
The Gold Camp Stagecoach Roads would have been considerably easier
than the Barr Trail. I don't believe I'd have had any problems with
that 50 years ago.
Certainly climbing the Peak even from ground level which I?ve done with Mt >>>> Teide ie 20 something mile climb up, which takes a few hours, and while it >>>> can be easier or harder due to the distance let alone altitude it?s a big >>>> day out.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
The Stage Coach trail is down in the foothills. The Barr trail is 12.6
miles long and begins in Manatou Springs (6,400 feet) and goes all the
way to the top of Pikes Peak, (14,100 feet) I hiked it up and down in
1971 when I was 26 years old. Last week we rode the cog railroad to
the top.
Is a railway up to Yr Wyddfa with a cogged drive, I’ve pondered it as I’d
be unable to walk it now.
But it’s a busy location understandably as North Wales like the Lake
District has easy access for number of Cities, unlike the Brecon Beacons
which has limited road access so only Pen Y Fan gets busy and only the
Stormyarms side.
Some folks do ride Yr Wyddfa though it has a voluntary 10am/8pm cut off for >> biking and the trails are steep and rocky so it’s hike a bike for all but >> the most talented (technical skill) even with a E bike due to the rocky
nature.
Doesn’t particularly appeal though am planning on catching the Tour of
Britain in Wales, which probably will require a MTB to get to different
spots.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
There is also a paved road to the top of Pike's Peak. Several years
ago I drove it in my Nissan Frontier. I could feel the reduction of
power in it's 4 litre engine due to the thin air. Last week, up there
with my family members, my 80 year old lungs that live normally at sea
level elevation noticed it too.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 7/27/2025 9:00 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On 27 Jul 2025 12:51:52 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On 26 Jul 2025 23:30:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Barr trail is Pikes peak yes? I assume the Stagecoach road goes past, so >>>>> possibly less steep/high? Though it?s considerable height that area. >>>>>
I've been to Colorado many times, but I've never seen so many
bicyclists peddling up the mountains as I did on this trip.
In an outdoor restaurant in Green Mountain Falls, near where my
Wisconsin family reunion party were staying, we talked to a couple >>>>>> from Wisconsin. They come to Colorado annually to ride some of the >>>>>> mountain trails in the area. They'd just ridden the Gold Camp
Stagecoach Roads trip to Cripple Creek.
I looked it up and regret that I'd usually gone hiking in Colorado and >>>>>> didn't ride any of the mountain trails. I don't recall seeing many >>>>>> bicyclists on my hiking, but I do recall seeing a couple of bicyclists >>>>>> on the Barr trail up to Pikes Peak. I was impressed, since I was
struggling in the thin air just walking.
The Gold Camp Stagecoach Roads would have been considerably easier >>>>>> than the Barr Trail. I don't believe I'd have had any problems with >>>>>> that 50 years ago.
Certainly climbing the Peak even from ground level which I?ve done with Mt
Teide ie 20 something mile climb up, which takes a few hours, and while it
can be easier or harder due to the distance let alone altitude it?s a big >>>>> day out.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
The Stage Coach trail is down in the foothills. The Barr trail is 12.6 >>>> miles long and begins in Manatou Springs (6,400 feet) and goes all the >>>> way to the top of Pikes Peak, (14,100 feet) I hiked it up and down in
1971 when I was 26 years old. Last week we rode the cog railroad to
the top.
Is a railway up to Yr Wyddfa with a cogged drive, I’ve pondered it as I’d >>> be unable to walk it now.
But it’s a busy location understandably as North Wales like the Lake
District has easy access for number of Cities, unlike the Brecon Beacons >>> which has limited road access so only Pen Y Fan gets busy and only the
Stormyarms side.
Some folks do ride Yr Wyddfa though it has a voluntary 10am/8pm cut off for >>> biking and the trails are steep and rocky so it’s hike a bike for all but >>> the most talented (technical skill) even with a E bike due to the rocky
nature.
Doesn’t particularly appeal though am planning on catching the Tour of
Britain in Wales, which probably will require a MTB to get to different
spots.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
There is also a paved road to the top of Pike's Peak. Several years
ago I drove it in my Nissan Frontier. I could feel the reduction of
power in it's 4 litre engine due to the thin air. Last week, up there
with my family members, my 80 year old lungs that live normally at sea
level elevation noticed it too.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
My cycling at altitude adventure was miserable and I
actually threw up.
On 27 Jul 2025 12:51:52 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On 26 Jul 2025 23:30:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Barr trail is Pikes peak yes? I assume the Stagecoach road goes past, so >>>> possibly less steep/high? Though it?s considerable height that area.
I've been to Colorado many times, but I've never seen so many
bicyclists peddling up the mountains as I did on this trip.
In an outdoor restaurant in Green Mountain Falls, near where my
Wisconsin family reunion party were staying, we talked to a couple
from Wisconsin. They come to Colorado annually to ride some of the
mountain trails in the area. They'd just ridden the Gold Camp
Stagecoach Roads trip to Cripple Creek.
I looked it up and regret that I'd usually gone hiking in Colorado and >>>>> didn't ride any of the mountain trails. I don't recall seeing many
bicyclists on my hiking, but I do recall seeing a couple of bicyclists >>>>> on the Barr trail up to Pikes Peak. I was impressed, since I was
struggling in the thin air just walking.
The Gold Camp Stagecoach Roads would have been considerably easier
than the Barr Trail. I don't believe I'd have had any problems with
that 50 years ago.
Certainly climbing the Peak even from ground level which I?ve done with Mt >>>> Teide ie 20 something mile climb up, which takes a few hours, and while it >>>> can be easier or harder due to the distance let alone altitude it?s a big >>>> day out.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
The Stage Coach trail is down in the foothills. The Barr trail is 12.6
miles long and begins in Manatou Springs (6,400 feet) and goes all the
way to the top of Pikes Peak, (14,100 feet) I hiked it up and down in
1971 when I was 26 years old. Last week we rode the cog railroad to
the top.
Is a railway up to Yr Wyddfa with a cogged drive, IÂ’ve pondered it as IÂ’d >> be unable to walk it now.
But itÂ’s a busy location understandably as North Wales like the Lake
District has easy access for number of Cities, unlike the Brecon Beacons
which has limited road access so only Pen Y Fan gets busy and only the
Stormyarms side.
Some folks do ride Yr Wyddfa though it has a voluntary 10am/8pm cut off for >> biking and the trails are steep and rocky so itÂ’s hike a bike for all but >> the most talented (technical skill) even with a E bike due to the rocky
nature.
DoesnÂ’t particularly appeal though am planning on catching the Tour of
Britain in Wales, which probably will require a MTB to get to different
spots.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
There is also a paved road to the top of Pike's Peak. Several years
ago I drove it in my Nissan Frontier. I could feel the reduction of
power in it's 4 litre engine due to the thin air. Last week, up there
with my family members, my 80 year old lungs that live normally at sea
level elevation noticed it too.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
My cycling at altitude adventure was miserable and I
actually threw up.
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 09:23:05 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 7/27/2025 9:00 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On 27 Jul 2025 12:51:52 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On 26 Jul 2025 23:30:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Barr trail is Pikes peak yes? I assume the Stagecoach road goes past, so >>>>>> possibly less steep/high? Though it?s considerable height that area. >>>>>>
I've been to Colorado many times, but I've never seen so many
bicyclists peddling up the mountains as I did on this trip.
In an outdoor restaurant in Green Mountain Falls, near where my
Wisconsin family reunion party were staying, we talked to a couple >>>>>>> from Wisconsin. They come to Colorado annually to ride some of the >>>>>>> mountain trails in the area. They'd just ridden the Gold Camp
Stagecoach Roads trip to Cripple Creek.
I looked it up and regret that I'd usually gone hiking in Colorado and >>>>>>> didn't ride any of the mountain trails. I don't recall seeing many >>>>>>> bicyclists on my hiking, but I do recall seeing a couple of bicyclists >>>>>>> on the Barr trail up to Pikes Peak. I was impressed, since I was >>>>>>> struggling in the thin air just walking.
The Gold Camp Stagecoach Roads would have been considerably easier >>>>>>> than the Barr Trail. I don't believe I'd have had any problems with >>>>>>> that 50 years ago.
Certainly climbing the Peak even from ground level which I?ve done with Mt
Teide ie 20 something mile climb up, which takes a few hours, and while it
can be easier or harder due to the distance let alone altitude it?s a big
day out.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
The Stage Coach trail is down in the foothills. The Barr trail is 12.6 >>>>> miles long and begins in Manatou Springs (6,400 feet) and goes all the >>>>> way to the top of Pikes Peak, (14,100 feet) I hiked it up and down in >>>>> 1971 when I was 26 years old. Last week we rode the cog railroad to
the top.
Is a railway up to Yr Wyddfa with a cogged drive, IÂ’ve pondered it as IÂ’d
be unable to walk it now.
But itÂ’s a busy location understandably as North Wales like the Lake
District has easy access for number of Cities, unlike the Brecon Beacons >>>> which has limited road access so only Pen Y Fan gets busy and only the >>>> Stormyarms side.
Some folks do ride Yr Wyddfa though it has a voluntary 10am/8pm cut off for
biking and the trails are steep and rocky so itÂ’s hike a bike for all but >>>> the most talented (technical skill) even with a E bike due to the rocky >>>> nature.
DoesnÂ’t particularly appeal though am planning on catching the Tour of >>>> Britain in Wales, which probably will require a MTB to get to different >>>> spots.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Roger Merriman
There is also a paved road to the top of Pike's Peak. Several years
ago I drove it in my Nissan Frontier. I could feel the reduction of
power in it's 4 litre engine due to the thin air. Last week, up there
with my family members, my 80 year old lungs that live normally at sea
level elevation noticed it too.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
My cycling at altitude adventure was miserable and I
actually threw up.
There were bicycles parked at the top of Pikes Peak. Whether they came
via the 12 mile Barr trail or the 18 mile highway, those cyclists were extraordinary. I wouldn't want to ride down the mountain either. There
were no guard rails on most of the highway. I'd certainly pack extra
brake pads.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
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