• How do you remove spines from 30 pounds of prickly pear fruits I just p

    From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 02:39:51 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    A friend bought a home with a huge set of prickly pair trees and let me
    pick about 30 pounds of fruit https://i.postimg.cc/j596q0BW/pricklypear.jpg

    How do you most easiest get the spines off of them?

    In the store, they don't have spines.
    These DEFINITELY have spines. Lots.

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?

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  • From David E. Ross@21:1/5 to Andrew on Wed Nov 22 20:25:41 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On 11/22/2023 6:39 PM, Andrew wrote:
    A friend bought a home with a huge set of prickly pair trees and let me
    pick about 30 pounds of fruit https://i.postimg.cc/j596q0BW/pricklypear.jpg

    How do you most easiest get the spines off of them?

    In the store, they don't have spines.
    These DEFINITELY have spines. Lots.

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?

    I have heard of singing. With long tongs or a BBQ fork, hold the cactus
    pear over a flame.

    --
    David E. Ross
    Climate: California Mediterranean, see <http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html>
    Gardening diary at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary>

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to Andrew on Wed Nov 22 23:31:39 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On 11/22/2023 9:39 PM, Andrew wrote:
    A friend bought a home with a huge set of prickly pair trees and let me
    pick about 30 pounds of fruit https://i.postimg.cc/j596q0BW/pricklypear.jpg

    How do you most easiest get the spines off of them?

    In the store, they don't have spines.
    These DEFINITELY have spines. Lots.

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?


    I have not done it myself. This is my thought experiment:

    I suggest you put a pile of them in a steel wok and use a blowtorch on
    high to briefly singe the fine hairy pricks. Use a steel spatula to turn
    the pile of prickly pears and then use the blowtorch to singe the pile
    again.

    I think if you singe the sharp tips of the pricks then the pricks won't
    be able to pierce your skin.

    You can use a blowtorch to singe just one fruit to see if it works
    before you try to singe a big pile of them in a wok (or a cheap steel
    bowl from a dollar store).

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 00:52:03 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 23:31:39 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
    ? <@.> wrote:

    On 11/22/2023 9:39 PM, Andrew wrote:
    A friend bought a home with a huge set of prickly pair trees and let me
    pick about 30 pounds of fruit https://i.postimg.cc/j596q0BW/pricklypear.jpg >>
    How do you most easiest get the spines off of them?

    In the store, they don't have spines.
    These DEFINITELY have spines. Lots.

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?


    I have not done it myself. This is my thought experiment:

    I suggest you put a pile of them in a steel wok and use a blowtorch on
    high to briefly singe the fine hairy pricks. Use a steel spatula to turn
    the pile of prickly pears and then use the blowtorch to singe the pile
    again.

    I think if you singe the sharp tips of the pricks then the pricks won't
    be able to pierce your skin.

    You can use a blowtorch to singe just one fruit to see if it works
    before you try to singe a big pile of them in a wok (or a cheap steel
    bowl from a dollar store).

    Good idea to do one first. I have the feeling this method might impart
    a propane taste to the fruit, although maybe not inside.

    By blowtorch, I assume you mean a propane torch, now a real blowtorch. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1185126001/vintage-brass-blow-torch-antique

    Everyone seems to think it's okay to call a propane torch a blowtorch,
    these days.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu Nov 23 06:30:25 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 02:39:51 -0000 (UTC), Andrew wrote:

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?


    Leather gloves. Rib them off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFHePTS0RI

    He uses a paper towel which seems redundant.

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  • From Robin Ware@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Nov 23 06:44:40 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 23:31:39 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
    ? <@.> wrote:

    On 11/22/2023 9:39 PM, Andrew wrote:
    A friend bought a home with a huge set of prickly pair trees and let me
    pick about 30 pounds of fruit https://i.postimg.cc/j596q0BW/pricklypear.jpg >>>
    How do you most easiest get the spines off of them?

    In the store, they don't have spines.
    These DEFINITELY have spines. Lots.

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?


    I have not done it myself. This is my thought experiment:

    I suggest you put a pile of them in a steel wok and use a blowtorch on
    high to briefly singe the fine hairy pricks. Use a steel spatula to turn
    the pile of prickly pears and then use the blowtorch to singe the pile
    again.

    I think if you singe the sharp tips of the pricks then the pricks won't
    be able to pierce your skin.

    You can use a blowtorch to singe just one fruit to see if it works
    before you try to singe a big pile of them in a wok (or a cheap steel
    bowl from a dollar store).

    Good idea to do one first. I have the feeling this method might impart
    a propane taste to the fruit, although maybe not inside.

    By blowtorch, I assume you mean a propane torch, now a real blowtorch. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1185126001/vintage-brass-blow-torch-antique

    Everyone seems to think it's okay to call a propane torch a blowtorch,
    these days.


    Maybe the woke propane torch self identifies as a blowtorch.
    And maybe the blowtorch even has a preferred pronoun.
    Shitfire, maybe the blowtorch is even non-binary.

    Life is complicated today.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Nov 23 07:57:57 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On 11/23/2023 1:30 AM, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 02:39:51 -0000 (UTC), Andrew wrote:

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?

    Leather gloves. Rib them off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFHePTS0RI

    He uses a paper towel which seems redundant.


    It will be tedious rubbing 30 lbs of prickly pears one by one.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Nov 23 07:53:37 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On 11/23/2023 12:52 AM, micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 23:31:39 -0500, ? Mighty Wannabe
    ? <@.> wrote:

    On 11/22/2023 9:39 PM, Andrew wrote:
    A friend bought a home with a huge set of prickly pair trees and let me
    pick about 30 pounds of fruit https://i.postimg.cc/j596q0BW/pricklypear.jpg >>>
    How do you most easiest get the spines off of them?

    In the store, they don't have spines.
    These DEFINITELY have spines. Lots.

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?

    I have not done it myself. This is my thought experiment:

    I suggest you put a pile of them in a steel wok and use a blowtorch on
    high to briefly singe the fine hairy pricks. Use a steel spatula to turn
    the pile of prickly pears and then use the blowtorch to singe the pile
    again.

    I think if you singe the sharp tips of the pricks then the pricks won't
    be able to pierce your skin.

    You can use a blowtorch to singe just one fruit to see if it works
    before you try to singe a big pile of them in a wok (or a cheap steel
    bowl from a dollar store).
    Good idea to do one first. I have the feeling this method might impart
    a propane taste to the fruit, although maybe not inside.

    By blowtorch, I assume you mean a propane torch, now a real blowtorch. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1185126001/vintage-brass-blow-torch-antique

    Everyone seems to think it's okay to call a propane torch a blowtorch,
    these days.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=blowtorch&tbm=isch

    A "blowtorch" is a generic term for that kind of torch. The fuel can be
    the traditional kerosene, or the modern butane, propane, MAPP gas, oxy-hydrogen, ...

    I think, for this application, a blowtorch with a large red flame (lower temperature) is better than a pinpoint white-hot flame. A large flame
    will be quicker in doing a large batch of prickly pears and won't damage
    the skin of the fruits that much due to the lower flame temperature.

    A large red flame can be achieved by turning the metal ring covering the
    air hole which controls the amount of air that can enter the torch to
    mix with the fuel.

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to David E. Ross on Thu Nov 23 05:50:57 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On 11/22/2023 8:25 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
    On 11/22/2023 6:39 PM, Andrew wrote:
    A friend bought a home with a huge set of prickly pair trees and let me
    pick about 30 pounds of fruit https://i.postimg.cc/j596q0BW/pricklypear.jpg >>
    How do you most easiest get the spines off of them?

    In the store, they don't have spines.
    These DEFINITELY have spines. Lots.

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?

    I have heard of singing. With long tongs or a BBQ fork, hold the cactus
    pear over a flame.


    I sang to some for an hour, and even that didn't scare the spines off them.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 09:48:40 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On 11/23/2023 7:53 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe βœ… wrote:
    On 11/23/2023 12:52 AM, micky wrote:


    Everyone seems to think it's okay to call a propane torch a blowtorch,
    these days.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=blowtorch&tbm=isch

    A "blowtorch" is a generic term for that kind of torch. The fuel can be
    the traditional kerosene, or the modern butane, propane, MAPP gas, oxy-hydrogen, ...


    Yes, it was born out of ignorance. By the same people that call every refrigerator a Frigidaire and many other wrong terms.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 19:21:18 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    😎 Mighty Wannabe βœ… wrote on Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:57:57 -0500 :

    He uses a paper towel which seems redundant.

    It will be tedious rubbing 30 lbs of prickly pears one by one.

    Thanks everyone for the good advice on removing prickly pear spines.

    It's interesting how he rubs them smooth with a paper towel & gloves.
    Time 300 seconds (rubbing) https://youtu.be/jKFHePTS0RI?t=300

    Even more interesting how he just bites into the results after that.
    Time 525 seconds (biting) https://youtu.be/jKFHePTS0RI?t=525

    I'm all done - it had to be ready for the Thanksgiving dinner!
    <https://i.postimg.cc/CLWfNS9P/pricklypear-peeled-and-ready.jpg>

    I'll explain later.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Bob F on Thu Nov 23 19:32:23 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    Bob F wrote on Thu, 23 Nov 2023 05:50:57 -0800 :

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?

    I have heard of singing. With long tongs or a BBQ fork, hold the cactus
    pear over a flame.


    I sang to some for an hour, and even that didn't scare the spines off them.

    I rubbed. I sang. I singed. I screamed. And still, this is what my gloves looked like after I foolishly picked the prickly pears with just leather. https://i.postimg.cc/q7NzH8vN/gloves-with-prickly-pear-spines.jpg

    I even looked up how to spell singing... https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/singe

    What worked best, even on the gloves, was singing with the tongs. https://i.postimg.cc/tg0RV8zz/prickly-pear-singed-with-tongs.jpg

    Happy Thanksgiving!
    https://i.postimg.cc/ydG3JKKz/prickly-pear-results.jpg

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 20:13:48 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    😎 Mighty Wannabe βœ… wrote on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 23:31:39 -0500 :

    You can use a blowtorch to singe just one fruit to see if it works
    before you try to singe a big pile of them in a wok (or a cheap steel
    bowl from a dollar store).

    I removed the burner cover to the stove and singed them over the huge flame that shot up unexpectedly out of the middle hole of the oven burner.

    I cut off each end, and sliced a line down the middle about skin deep.
    Then with my hands I peeled the skin back which leaves a center portion.

    That's all for the party so the only thing I get to keep is the compost. https://i.postimg.cc/RF9Q4Kmn/prickly-pear-skin-compost.jpg

    Layers of... Browns : Greens : Reds : Browns : Greens : Reds : (and so on)

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 20:41:01 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:53:37 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe βœ… wrote:

    A "blowtorch" is a generic term for that kind of torch. The fuel can be
    the traditional kerosene, or the modern butane, propane, MAPP gas, oxy-hydrogen, ...

    The US version used gasoline. First you let a little gasoline dribble into
    the priming cup and lit it. When the apparatus came up to temperature you
    could then open the valve again.

    I have an old Svea 123 camp stove that works the same. people get a little nervous then you set it on fire.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 20:35:13 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:57:57 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe βœ… wrote:

    On 11/23/2023 1:30 AM, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 02:39:51 -0000 (UTC), Andrew wrote:

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?

    Leather gloves. Rib them off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFHePTS0RI

    He uses a paper towel which seems redundant.


    It will be tedious rubbing 30 lbs of prickly pears one by one.

    Then take them to a laundromat where you're not known, put them in a
    dryer, and give them 10 minutes on the low setting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UiC-1Sjrm0

    A commercial tuna operation probably uses something similar to the potato peeler. I've used on of those in the service. The old cartoon of GIs
    sitting around peeling potatoes by hand aren't accurate. We did crack eggs
    by hand. You get good after a fwe hundred dozen.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Nov 23 17:41:36 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On 11/23/2023 3:35 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:57:57 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe βœ… wrote:

    On 11/23/2023 1:30 AM, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 02:39:51 -0000 (UTC), Andrew wrote:

    What's the trick to removing the spines before peeling the skin off?
    Leather gloves. Rib them off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFHePTS0RI

    He uses a paper towel which seems redundant.

    It will be tedious rubbing 30 lbs of prickly pears one by one.
    Then take them to a laundromat where you're not known, put them in a
    dryer, and give them 10 minutes on the low setting.


    If you are a reloader, you might already have a rotary separator, then
    you don't have to sneak into a laundromat to tumble a 30-lb bag of
    prickly pears

    Frankford Arsenal Platinum Series Wet/Dry Media Separator with
    Perforated Sifter and Mesh Media Strainer for Reloading https://www.amazon.com/Frankford-Arsenal-Separator-Perforated-Reloading/dp/B01B6S8JUC


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UiC-1Sjrm0

    A commercial tuna operation probably uses something similar to the potato peeler. I've used on of those in the service. The old cartoon of GIs
    sitting around peeling potatoes by hand aren't accurate. We did crack eggs
    by hand. You get good after a fwe hundred dozen.



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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu Nov 23 18:22:28 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On 11/23/2023 3:13 PM, Andrew wrote:
    Γ­Β Β½Γ­ΒΈΕ½ Mighty Wannabe Òœ… wrote on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 23:31:39 -0500 :

    You can use a blowtorch to singe just one fruit to see if it works
    before you try to singe a big pile of them in a wok (or a cheap steel
    bowl from a dollar store).
    I removed the burner cover to the stove and singed them over the huge flame that shot up unexpectedly out of the middle hole of the oven burner.

    I cut off each end, and sliced a line down the middle about skin deep.
    Then with my hands I peeled the skin back which leaves a center portion.

    After cutting it in halves, you can hold a half in your palm, and use a
    spoon of appropriate size to scoop out the soft core instead of peeling
    the skin. I eat kiwifruit that way, with a spoon. After I have scooped
    out the soft meat of a kiwifruit with a spoon in one shot, all that's
    left is the paper thin kiwifruit skin in my palm. It beats trying to
    peel the kiwifruit because peeling will tear the kiwifruit skin into
    many, many strips.


    That's all for the party so the only thing I get to keep is the compost. https://i.postimg.cc/RF9Q4Kmn/prickly-pear-skin-compost.jpg

    Layers of... Browns : Greens : Reds : Browns : Greens : Reds : (and so on)

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 24 00:54:08 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:22:28 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe βœ… wrote:

    After cutting it in halves, you can hold a half in your palm, and use a
    spoon of appropriate size to scoop out the soft core instead of peeling
    the skin. I eat kiwifruit that way, with a spoon. After I have scooped
    out the soft meat of a kiwifruit with a spoon in one shot, all that's
    left is the paper thin kiwifruit skin in my palm. It beats trying to
    peel the kiwifruit because peeling will tear the kiwifruit skin into
    many, many strips.

    Just eat the skin; roughage is good for you. I'm serious. I never peeled a
    kiwi in my life or a mango. Pomegranates are a different story.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 24 00:51:05 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.gardens

    On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 17:41:36 -0500, 😎 Mighty Wannabe βœ… wrote:


    If you are a reloader, you might already have a rotary separator, then
    you don't have to sneak into a laundromat to tumble a 30-lb bag of
    prickly pears

    Frankford Arsenal Platinum Series Wet/Dry Media Separator with
    Perforated Sifter and Mesh Media Strainer for Reloading https://www.amazon.com/Frankford-Arsenal-Separator-Perforated-Reloading/
    dp/B01B6S8JUC

    That link is only the media separator.

    https://www.amazon.com/Frankford-Arsenal-Quick-N-EZ-Vibratory-Polishing/ dp/B001MYGLJC

    is the vibratory tumbler I use. After running a batch you pour the media
    and cases into the separator. I feel underprivileged; my older model only
    has one handle and sits on a five gallon bucket instead of a fancy case.

    It might work but it would take a long time to process 30 lbs. of tunas in batches of six or so. You probably would want to ship the brass polish
    too.

    https://www.amazon.com/Frankford-Arsenal-Ammonia-Free-Quick-N-EZ- Reloading/dp/B004J43WN0

    The suff is citrus based and smells good but not good enough to eat.

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