• Batch of Mirepoix

    From fos@sdf.org@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 16:14:10 2025
    XPost: rec.food.preserving

    <https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>

    26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
    which it did.

    5 pounds diced sweet onions
    2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
    2 1/2 pounds diced celery

    20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
    from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
    the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
    proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
    their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
    strained, hot filled jars, processed for 30 minutes in the
    pressure canner plus heat up and cool down. my canner holds 18
    regular mouth pints so two batches.

    now have about 1 year worth of mirepoix which will get used not
    only for soups and stews, but also for braising, de-glazing,
    gravies, cooking whole grains such as barley, farro, bulgur
    wheat, rice. mixed with some melted butter or oil and herbs is
    a nice baste for grilled / rotisserie poultry. and so on.

    kind of a useful way to spend an ugly, blustery, snowy, rainy
    day. and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
    was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
    the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to fos@sdf.org on Tue Feb 18 18:20:36 2025
    XPost: rec.food.preserving

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:14:10 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:


    <https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>

    26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
    which it did.

    5 pounds diced sweet onions
    2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
    2 1/2 pounds diced celery

    and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
    was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
    the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.


    You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
    neighbors and my trash cans and put them away. Picked
    up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
    maple tree that falls in my yard. I think you have me
    beat on being industrious.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Tue Feb 18 13:28:28 2025
    On 2/18/2025 1:20 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:14:10 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:


    <https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>

    26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
    which it did.

    5 pounds diced sweet onions
    2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
    2 1/2 pounds diced celery

    and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
    was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
    the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.


    You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
    neighbors and my trash cans and put them away.  Picked
    up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
    maple tree that falls in my yard.  I think you have me
    beat on being industrious.

    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Feb 18 18:34:21 2025
    On 2025-02-18, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 2/18/2025 1:20 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:14:10 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:


    <https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>

    26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
    which it did.

    5 pounds diced sweet onions
    2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
    2 1/2 pounds diced celery

    and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
    was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
    the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.


    You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
    neighbors and my trash cans and put them away.  Picked
    up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
    maple tree that falls in my yard.  I think you have me
    beat on being industrious.

    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    Drove my mother to the podiatrist and then to lunch (I had a burger).
    Refilled her days-of-the-week pill cases.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Feb 18 19:11:46 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Did laundry, folded and put away everything,


    I did that yesterday.


    all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished,


    That was done on Saturday here.


    trash taken out,


    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.


    clean sheets on the bed.


    That was a Saturday chore.


    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.


    I'm the cleaning lady around here.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Tue Feb 18 14:36:23 2025
    On 2/18/2025 2:11 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.


    I'm the cleaning lady around here.


    I needed the help a whole back. Later, less so but I was spoiled so
    just kept it up. I can make an extensive list of things I'm capable of
    doing but have never done since I've been here.

    Maybe once a year something happens I have to get the vacuum going.
    I've never washed a mirror, the glass slider, dusted and a bunch of
    other things like that. When they leave, the kitchen appliances look
    like the day we moved in.

    I do put the colored wash in first thing and put it in the dryer, but
    they fold it when done. Neater that I can do.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 14:26:49 2025
    On 2/18/2025 2:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish

    B

    As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming. Florida
    could not exist without them.

    I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
    Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
    raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Feb 18 19:13:30 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Tue Feb 18 15:59:21 2025
    XPost: rec.food.preserving

    On 2025-02-18 1:20 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:14:10 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:


    <https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>

    26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
    which it did.

    5 pounds diced sweet onions
    2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
    2 1/2 pounds diced celery

    and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
    was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
    the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.


    You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
    neighbors and my trash cans and put them away.  Picked
    up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
    maple tree that falls in my yard.  I think you have me
    beat on being industrious.

    I didn't get moving until about 11:30 when I went to the library to
    return a whack of books and three videos. I stopped for coffee and then
    came back to pick up my wife to run some errands. We scooted over to
    Niagara Falls to get some things at Walmart, deposit some cheques at the
    bank and then to Costco. One the way home we stopped at the produce
    store to get some cherry tomatoes and half dozen butter tarts.

    Supper tonight will be London Broils, but the local variation which is a
    spiral of tenderized beef wrapped around a sausage meat filling.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Tue Feb 18 21:23:27 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:21:55 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 1:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish

    D) Cuban

    That makes sense. Thanks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBG8SDB1lF8

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 21:43:32 2025
    XPost: rec.food.preserving

    In article <slrnvr9cei.3gbsi.fos@ma.sdf.org>, fos@sdf.org
    says...

    20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
    from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
    the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
    proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
    their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
    strained,


    What you made is vegetable stock. You threw away the
    mirepoix.

    Mirepoix is onions/ celery/carrots slowly cooked down
    over gentle heat with a little oil or butter. No water or
    liquid. The end product is the vegetables.

    Janet UK

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 16:57:25 2025
    On 2/18/2025 4:23 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:21:55 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 1:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed, >>>> tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and >>>> paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish
    ;
    D) Cuban

    That makes sense. Thanks.

    Never met a Cuban in this area that I was aware of. Most are in the
    southern part of the state. There are close to 2 million Cuban
    Americans in the state, Miami being the biggest concentration at 60% of
    the population. .

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 23:09:39 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish


    Hah! Easy! It was Inga, blonde and blue eyes, in a beautiful and sexy
    little maid uniform. Ed is da playah! =D

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Feb 18 23:13:17 2025
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, Ed P wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 2:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish

    B

    Ay caramba! A hot little mamacita!

    This beautiful story brings tears to my eyes. An older, white gentleman, supporting a young, innocent mexican mamacita, gradually growing closer.
    One day our mamacita by "accident" dropped something on the floor, bends
    down, while Ed is watching and rekindles feelings in him, he thought were
    gone forever.

    To be continued!

    I will try and book Fabio as the model for Ed on the book cover!

    As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming. Florida could not exist without them.

    I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business. Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.


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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Tue Feb 18 22:40:51 2025
    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Did laundry, folded and put away everything,


    I did that yesterday.


    all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished,


    That was done on Saturday here.


    trash taken out,


    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day. The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays. We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue Feb 18 22:53:29 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:40:51 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    trash taken out,


    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day. The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays. We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.


    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Feb 18 22:14:47 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:57:25 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 4:23 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:21:55 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 1:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed, >>>>> tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and >>>>> paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish
    ;
    D) Cuban

    That makes sense. Thanks.

    Never met a Cuban in this area that I was aware of. Most are in the
    southern part of the state. There are close to 2 million Cuban
    Americans in the state, Miami being the biggest concentration at 60% of
    the population. .

    I shall assume that you know what you're talking about. I love salsa.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sju7XjOWWWs

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue Feb 18 19:17:44 2025
    On 2/18/2025 5:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day. The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays. We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.



    I don't get it. Ours is delayed a day and the pickup people have to
    work Saturday. I don't know if they get paid extra for it but the work
    is the same.

    So, they get a 3 day holiday weekend but followed by a 1 day for makeup.

    I was impressed with my neighbors today. First time no one on the
    street put the bins out on a holiday schedule.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Tue Feb 18 19:53:56 2025
    On 2025-02-18 7:48 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
    county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

    Around here the regional government is responsible for garbage.They
    contract it out to private companies. We had a holiday yesterday and
    the contractor was out picking it up and hauling it to the dump. Our
    pickup was today.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Tue Feb 18 19:48:35 2025
    On 2/18/2025 5:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:40:51 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    trash taken out,


    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.


    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
    county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the service. Guess which one I use? ;)

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Feb 18 19:59:22 2025
    On 2/18/2025 7:17 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 2/18/2025 5:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.



    I don't get it.  Ours is delayed a day and the pickup people have to
    work Saturday.  I don't know if they get paid extra for it but the work
    is the same.

    I tried several different trash pickup services over the years and they
    always promised next day after a holiday pickup but they never did show
    up the next day. Or even necessarily that week. Republic Waste, Waste Management, Sunshine Trash Services.

    I finally found a local service that not only picks up on holidays but
    charges less for their weekly service.

    It's not that I begrudge anyone taking a holiday off. Take the day off!
    But don't promise you'll pick up a day later and still charge me for
    *not* doing it. Meanwhile, the trash piles up and you don't show up
    until the next week maybe? I am so happy I found a locally based
    service trash pickup service that actually does what they say they will do.

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Feb 19 12:22:45 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:53:29 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:40:51 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    trash taken out,


    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day. The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays. We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    Does that mean Trump or Musk will fire them?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Wed Feb 19 12:30:05 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:59:22 -0500, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 7:17 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 2/18/2025 5:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

    I don't get it.  Ours is delayed a day and the pickup people have to
    work Saturday.  I don't know if they get paid extra for it but the work
    is the same.

    I tried several different trash pickup services over the years and they >always promised next day after a holiday pickup but they never did show
    up the next day. Or even necessarily that week. Republic Waste, Waste >Management, Sunshine Trash Services.

    I finally found a local service that not only picks up on holidays but >charges less for their weekly service.

    This is a dumb, inefficient and polluting system. That's unbridled
    capitalism for ya!

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Wed Feb 19 12:27:36 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 5:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:40:51 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    trash taken out,


    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.


    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
    county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >service. Guess which one I use? ;)

    You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
    the same street? That sounds insane.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Tue Feb 18 21:16:49 2025
    On 2/18/2025 7:48 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 2/18/2025 5:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:40:51 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    trash taken out,


    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.


    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
    county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

    Jill

    Our town in CT had private haulers. My neighbor owned one and was
    reasonable price, but eventually he closed it.

    Meantime, the town issued a sticker to use the landfill for $2 a year.
    That worked.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Tue Feb 18 20:38:05 2025
    On 2025-02-18 5:48 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
    county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

    Jill
    This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
    xmas and good friday.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Feb 19 05:31:28 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 1:22:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:53:29 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    Does that mean Trump or Musk will fire them?


    They're not federal employees, so their jobs are safe.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Feb 19 18:09:25 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 05:31:28 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 1:22:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:53:29 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    Does that mean Trump or Musk will fire them?

    They're not federal employees, so their jobs are safe.

    Oh,ok.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 07:35:44 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:09:39 +0000, D wrote:



    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish


    Hah! Easy! It was Inga, blonde and blue eyes, in a beautiful and sexy
    little maid uniform. Ed is da playah! =D

    Sounds like something from the 60's.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gItQFtMRDPU

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Wed Feb 19 19:01:40 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 07:35:44 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:09:39 +0000, D wrote:



    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed, >>>> tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish

    Hah! Easy! It was Inga, blonde and blue eyes, in a beautiful and sexy
    little maid uniform. Ed is da playah! =D

    Sounds like something from the 60's.

    Set in the German Alps.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 09:35:27 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:09:39 +0000, D wrote:



    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed, >>>> tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish


    Hah! Easy! It was Inga, blonde and blue eyes, in a beautiful and sexy
    little maid uniform. Ed is da playah! =D

    Sounds like something from the 60's.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gItQFtMRDPU


    Wow, I didn't know that Ed uploaded the videos! How very kind of him! =D

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Feb 19 10:12:12 2025
    On 2025-02-19, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-02-18 5:48 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
    county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
    service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

    Jill
    This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
    xmas and good friday.

    Good Friday? How quaint.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Feb 19 10:11:23 2025
    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 5:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:40:51 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    trash taken out,


    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.


    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
    county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>service. Guess which one I use? ;)

    You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
    the same street? That sounds insane.

    Free enterprise. No central planning.

    Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
    power, using the same transmission lines.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Wed Feb 19 21:20:44 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-02-18 5:48 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
    county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>> service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

    Jill
    This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
    xmas and good friday.

    Good Friday? How quaint.

    Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
    in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
    Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
    Netherlands.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Wed Feb 19 21:18:08 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
    county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste >>>Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>>service. Guess which one I use? ;)

    You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
    the same street? That sounds insane.

    Free enterprise. No central planning.

    Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
    power, using the same transmission lines.

    We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
    send trucks and people here to do their thing.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Feb 19 04:57:23 2025
    On 2025-02-19 3:20 a.m., Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-02-18 5:48 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
    county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>>> service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

    Jill
    This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
    xmas and good friday.

    Good Friday? How quaint.

    Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
    in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
    Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
    Netherlands.

    GF always was and I suppose still is a public holiday in the UK. So
    that may be the reason why it is in the old Commonwealth.

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  • From fos@sdf.org@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Feb 19 12:27:08 2025
    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:14:10 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:


    <https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>

    26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
    which it did.

    5 pounds diced sweet onions
    2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
    2 1/2 pounds diced celery

    and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
    was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
    the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.

    You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
    neighbors and my trash cans and put them away. Picked
    up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
    maple tree that falls in my yard. I think you have me
    beat on being industrious.

    since we're posting diaries it appears; i made the stock on
    sunday. :)

    friday after work, RSV jab then went out for a fish fry for
    vday with my wife. i woke up sore from the jab saturday and
    decided to do exactly nothing all day. binged watched netflix
    and diced a knob of ginger for bok choy chix. sunday was up and
    in the kitchen at 5:00am. made the mirpoix, made zuppa toscana,
    made refried beans and froze them. sat down only to eat dinner
    and went to bet at 8:00pm.

    during the week i work, eat, do a bit of can't put it off
    maintenance such as clean snow and ice of the driveway, and
    relax an hour before going to bed. my wife makes my dinner which
    if it isn't salad, it's leftovers. i'm up at 4:45am and go to
    bed by 8:30pm.

    i have way too much pent up energy, i need to be outside doing
    outside things around the house. the older i get the more i hate
    winter.

    --
    SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

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  • From fos@sdf.org@21:1/5 to Janet on Wed Feb 19 12:49:26 2025
    XPost: rec.food.preserving

    On 2025-02-18, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <slrnvr9cei.3gbsi.fos@ma.sdf.org>, fos@sdf.org
    says...

    20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
    from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
    the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
    proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
    their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
    strained,

    What you made is vegetable stock. You threw away the
    mirepoix.

    oi. i failed to write Mirepoix Stock in the subject. fixed it.
    :)


    --
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Feb 19 13:33:50 2025
    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-02-18 5:48 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
    county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>>> service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

    Jill
    This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
    xmas and good friday.

    Good Friday? How quaint.

    Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
    in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
    Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
    Netherlands.

    A lot of school systems fold it into their "spring break". For
    a while the company I worked for had a Catholic CEO who made it
    a holiday for us. His successor stopped that and gave it to us
    around one of the summer holidays (late May, early July, or
    early September), resulting in a three-day weekend. Most people
    deemed that more useful.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 19 09:05:56 2025
    On 2025-02-19 8:33 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
    in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
    Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
    Netherlands.

    A lot of school systems fold it into their "spring break". For
    a while the company I worked for had a Catholic CEO who made it
    a holiday for us. His successor stopped that and gave it to us
    around one of the summer holidays (late May, early July, or
    early September), resulting in a three-day weekend. Most people
    deemed that more useful.

    When I was a kid we had Easter vacation. We had Good Friday off and
    working people had Easter Monday free. Students had the whole week off. Somewhere along they way it changed. Easter is a long weekend and
    students now have a March break instead of Easter.

    When I was working we had a 7 day a week operation and worked different
    shifts but not necessarily 24/7. Our satellite office did not work
    holidays but I offered to cover Easter. I am not religious so Good
    Friday and Easter meant nothing to me other than getting some chocolate.
    I would have gladly covered those days for double time and a half.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Feb 19 13:31:29 2025
    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or >>>>county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste >>>>Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local >>>>outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>>>service. Guess which one I use? ;)

    You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
    the same street? That sounds insane.

    Free enterprise. No central planning.

    Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
    power, using the same transmission lines.

    We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
    send trucks and people here to do their thing.

    I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

    In my locality, two separate companies pick up residential solid waste
    and commercial solid waste.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 15:15:54 2025
    On 2025-02-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 8:33 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
    in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
    Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
    Netherlands.

    A lot of school systems fold it into their "spring break". For
    a while the company I worked for had a Catholic CEO who made it
    a holiday for us. His successor stopped that and gave it to us
    around one of the summer holidays (late May, early July, or
    early September), resulting in a three-day weekend. Most people
    deemed that more useful.

    When I was a kid we had Easter vacation. We had Good Friday off and
    working people had Easter Monday free. Students had the whole week off. Somewhere along they way it changed. Easter is a long weekend and
    students now have a March break instead of Easter.

    When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it. At
    some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
    stopped calling it that.

    Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing. Wikipedia
    tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
    seen it. Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.

    Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
    prime retailing opportunities. Banks and the government are closed,
    but pretty much everything else is open.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 08:46:39 2025
    On 2025-02-19 8:35 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 10:15 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it.  At
    some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
    stopped calling it that.

    Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing.  Wikipedia
    tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
    seen it.  Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.

    Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
    prime retailing opportunities.  Banks and the government are closed,
    but pretty much everything else is open.

    I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
    going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
    lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
    that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

    We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
    was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
    grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

    Not here where the holiday originated!
    I agree with the idea that shops should close on public holidays,
    especially Family Day!!

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 19 10:35:28 2025
    On 2025-02-19 10:15 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it. At
    some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
    stopped calling it that.

    Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing. Wikipedia
    tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
    seen it. Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.

    Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
    prime retailing opportunities. Banks and the government are closed,
    but pretty much everything else is open.

    I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
    going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
    offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
    lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
    that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

    We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
    was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
    grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

    If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when everything
    was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because stores are
    open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when friends and
    family could get together.


    For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
    There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
    we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
    lawn on Sundays. I was really surprised to see them working on Good
    Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
    that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
    would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.




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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 11:19:38 2025
    On 2/19/2025 10:35 AM, Dave Smith wrote:


    I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
    going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
    lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
    that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

    We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
    was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
    grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

    If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when everything
    was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because stores are
    open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when  friends and family could get together.


    YES! Time with family, dinner at grandma's, picnic with the cousins,
    etc. Those days are gone.

    Supermarket used to be closed but now it is the busiest day of the week.

    We did our best. Saturday was the day for work around the house
    projects but my wife and I tried to keep Sunday open for ourselves to
    enjoy, be it going for a ride someplace or visiting friends.

    In some areas, retailers would close at noon on Wednesday too. That
    would be the small family shops, not Target and such that did not exist
    yet.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Feb 19 11:32:45 2025
    On 2025-02-19 10:46 a.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 8:35 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 10:15 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and
    I was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
    grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

    Not here where the holiday originated!
    I agree with the idea that shops should close on public holidays,
    especially Family Day!!

    I have to confess that the cynic in me expected that Family Day would be
    a day when the moms left the kids at home to go shopping.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Feb 19 09:20:39 2025
    On 2025-02-19 8:46 a.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 8:35 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 10:15 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it.  At
    some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
    stopped calling it that.

    Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing.  Wikipedia
    tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
    seen it.  Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.

    Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
    prime retailing opportunities.  Banks and the government are closed,
    but pretty much everything else is open.

    I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
    going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
    offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
    lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
    that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

    We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and
    I was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
    grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

    Not here where the holiday originated!
    I agree with the idea that shops should close on public holidays,
    especially Family Day!!

    It was so named because the Premier of Alberta felt guilty about his
    failure as a father when his son was caught drug-dealing.
    He was a failure as a Premier too but that's another story.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Feb 20 03:52:30 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:57:23 -0700, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19 3:20 a.m., Bruce wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-02-18 5:48 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

    Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
    honors all federal holidays.

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
    county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
    outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>>>> service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

    Jill
    This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
    xmas and good friday.

    Good Friday? How quaint.

    Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
    in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
    Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
    Netherlands.

    GF always was and I suppose still is a public holiday in the UK. So
    that may be the reason why it is in the old Commonwealth.

    Yes, must be. I thought it was mainly a Catholic thing, but apparently
    not.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Thu Feb 20 03:53:49 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown >>>><j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or >>>>>county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste >>>>>Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local >>>>>outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>>>>service. Guess which one I use? ;)

    You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
    the same street? That sounds insane.

    Free enterprise. No central planning.

    Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
    power, using the same transmission lines.

    We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
    send trucks and people here to do their thing.

    I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

    The market doesn't mind polluting.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Feb 19 18:12:13 2025
    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown >>>>><j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or >>>>>>county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste >>>>>>Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local >>>>>>outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the >>>>>>service. Guess which one I use? ;)

    You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in >>>>> the same street? That sounds insane.

    Free enterprise. No central planning.

    Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
    power, using the same transmission lines.

    We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
    send trucks and people here to do their thing.

    I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

    The market doesn't mind polluting.

    Of course not. Those externalities are shifted to the commons.
    We could do something about that, but not in a country full of
    people who are terribly afraid that someone else is going to get
    (at taxpayer expense) something to which they are not entitled.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Feb 19 13:03:47 2025
    On 2025-02-19 11:19 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 2/19/2025 10:35 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when
    everything was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because
    stores are open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when
    friends and family could get together.


    YES!  Time with family, dinner at grandma's, picnic with the cousins,

    etc.  Those days are gone.

    Supermarket used to be closed but now it is the busiest day of the week.

    We did our best.  Saturday was the day for work around the house
    projects but my wife and I tried to keep Sunday open for ourselves to
    enjoy, be it going for a ride someplace or visiting friends.

    In some areas, retailers would close at noon on Wednesday too. That
    would be the small family shops, not Target and such that did not exist
    yet.

    We were not allowed to work on Sundays, and my parents were not
    religious. Sunday was usually spent visiting my grandparents or aunts
    and uncles. Occasionally we would drive to my father's home town about
    40 miles away.

    I don't remember exactly when we started opening. It was a hot issue. We
    live close to the US border and NY allowed Sunday opening so people from southern Ontario were flocking over the border to shop. There were
    definitely better prices and selection over there and the exchange rate
    was low. Retailers complained that they were losing too much business to
    the Americans so the allowed Sunday shopping. Stores and malls are
    pretty busy on Sundays. It's all the people who would have come in the
    middle of the week so there is basically the same costs for staff and
    utilities each day for seven days to generate the same sales they used
    to get in 6.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 18:09:13 2025
    On 2025-02-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 10:15 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it. At
    some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
    stopped calling it that.

    Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing. Wikipedia
    tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
    seen it. Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.

    Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
    prime retailing opportunities. Banks and the government are closed,
    but pretty much everything else is open.

    I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
    going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
    lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
    that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

    You forget that the only real religion in the U.S. is money. We
    don't actually have statutory holidays. You can get a Chinese
    restaurant meal on Christmas.

    People with good jobs get paid holidays. People with crappy jobs
    don't. They also don't get paid sick days or vacation.

    Ah, here you go:

    The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) does not require payment for time
    not worked, such as vacations or holidays (federal or otherwise). These benefits are generally a matter of agreement between an employer and an employee (or the employee's representative). https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/holiday

    We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
    was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
    grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

    If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when everything
    was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because stores are
    open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when friends and family could get together.

    I wouldn't. "Sunday" implies "Christianity". Can Jews take Saturday
    instead? Can Muslims have Friday? Can pagans have the Esbats?

    Do you want hospitals closed on Sundays? Police? Fire?

    You won't get any support from me for getting together with friends
    and family. I see the only person who matters all the time.

    For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
    There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
    we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
    lawn on Sundays. I was really surprised to see them working on Good
    Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
    that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
    would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

    Good Friday is pretty High Church.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Feb 19 18:10:36 2025
    On 2025-02-19, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 2/19/2025 10:35 AM, Dave Smith wrote:


    I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
    going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
    offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
    lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
    that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

    We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
    was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
    grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

    If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when everything
    was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because stores are
    open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when  friends and
    family could get together.


    YES! Time with family, dinner at grandma's, picnic with the cousins,
    etc. Those days are gone.

    If people wanted that, they'd have it. Millions of people get
    Saturday and Sunday off, yet inexplicably do not spent time as
    you indicated.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 18:22:19 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:35:28 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
    There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
    we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
    lawn on Sundays. I was really surprised to see them working on Good
    Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
    that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
    would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.


    Easter is the holiest day, not Good Friday.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Thu Feb 20 05:33:42 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:12:13 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

    The market doesn't mind polluting.

    Of course not. Those externalities are shifted to the commons.
    We could do something about that, but not in a country full of
    people who are terribly afraid that someone else is going to get
    (at taxpayer expense) something to which they are not entitled.

    Yes, that has to be avoided at, literally, all costs.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 19 18:15:38 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:33:50 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    Good Friday? How quaint.

    Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
    in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
    Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
    Netherlands.

    A lot of school systems fold it into their "spring break". For
    a while the company I worked for had a Catholic CEO who made it
    a holiday for us. His successor stopped that and gave it to us
    around one of the summer holidays (late May, early July, or
    early September), resulting in a three-day weekend. Most people
    deemed that more useful.


    The company I worked for gave us Good Friday off. Then we
    were sold and G. F. was taken away but the Friday after
    Thanksgiving was added giving workers a 4-day holiday. If
    I was working the T-F-S shift, day or night, I'd take Saturday
    off and it would turn it into a two weeks off.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Thu Feb 20 05:41:10 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:22:19 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:35:28 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
    There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
    we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
    lawn on Sundays.

    As you should. No mowing on Sundays for strict Dutch Protestants!
    Also, no bicycle riding! And no ice cream eating! Nothing that
    distracts from worshipping the Lord!

    These people have their own political party in the Netherlands. They
    always get a few % of the vote. This is how the leader celebrates
    Christmas. It was a hell of a party last year. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1USyoHjQu9g>

    I was really surprised to see them working on Good
    Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
    that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really
    strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
    would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

    It's entirely possible that Dutch Protestants have historically
    disagreed about this matter and have, therefore, split up into 12
    different Protestant denominations.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Feb 19 14:14:20 2025
    On 2025-02-19 1:22 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:35:28 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
    There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
    we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
    lawn on Sundays.  I was really surprised to see them working on Good
    Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
    that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really
    strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
    would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.


    Easter is the holiest day, not Good Friday.

    Friday is the day their main guy was crucified and died and people are
    supposed to grieve. Easter is the day he resurrected and people rejoice.
    The devout crowd takes it a little more seriously than you do.

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 14:31:05 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    I would have gladly covered those days for double time and a half.


    You're my hero.

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 14:34:22 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border


    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Thu Feb 20 06:21:38 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 14:14:20 -0500, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19 1:22 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:35:28 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
    There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
    we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
    lawn on Sundays.  I was really surprised to see them working on Good
    Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
    that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really >>> strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
    would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

    Easter is the holiest day, not Good Friday.

    Friday is the day their main guy was crucified and died and people are >supposed to grieve. Easter is the day he resurrected and people rejoice.
    The devout crowd takes it a little more seriously than you do.

    This is how it goes. "I'm more devout than you! We're the true
    believers! I'm starting a new church!"

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Feb 19 20:01:13 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:26:49 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 2:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
    tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
    paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish

    B

    As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming. Florida
    could not exist without them.

    I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
    Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
    raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

    These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
    have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
    day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
    weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
    world.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 15:55:36 2025
    On 2/19/2025 1:03 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    We were not allowed to work on Sundays, and my parents were not
    religious. Sunday was usually spent visiting my grandparents or aunts
    and uncles. Occasionally we would drive to my father's home town about
    40 miles away.

    I don't remember exactly when we started opening. It was a hot issue. We
    live close to the US border and NY allowed Sunday opening so people from southern Ontario were flocking over the border to shop.  There were definitely better prices and selection over there and the exchange rate
    was low. Retailers complained that they were losing too much business to
    the Americans so the allowed Sunday shopping. Stores and malls are
    pretty busy on Sundays. It's all the people who would have come in the
    middle of the week so there is basically the same costs for staff and utilities each day for seven days to generate the same sales they used
    to get in 6.


    When I lived in Philadelphia, it was just a couple of miles to the
    bridge to New Jersey. Sunday was very busy at the Pennsaulken Mart just
    the other side. You could buy liquor too!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 19 23:05:58 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or >>>>>>> county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
    Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local >>>>>>> outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
    service. Guess which one I use? ;)

    You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in >>>>>> the same street? That sounds insane.

    Free enterprise. No central planning.

    Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
    power, using the same transmission lines.

    We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to >>>> send trucks and people here to do their thing.

    I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

    The market doesn't mind polluting.

    Of course not. Those externalities are shifted to the commons.
    We could do something about that, but not in a country full of
    people who are terribly afraid that someone else is going to get
    (at taxpayer expense) something to which they are not entitled.

    Nope, you either internalize it, or get rid of the commons. Problem
    solved.

    Also note that richer and more capitalist countries, are generally more
    clean and respectful of the environment than socialist countries. This is proven.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 17:26:17 2025
    On 2025-02-19 3:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:26:49 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
    could not exist without them.

    I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
    Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
    raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

    These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
    have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
    day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
    weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the world.


    You could go a long way to solving the problem by going after the people
    who are bringing them in and those who are employing illegal workers.
    Huge fines would counteract the appeal of low wages being paid.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Feb 19 16:36:04 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 10:15 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it. At
    some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
    stopped calling it that.

    Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing. Wikipedia
    tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
    seen it. Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.

    Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
    prime retailing opportunities. Banks and the government are closed,
    but pretty much everything else is open.

    I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
    going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
    offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
    lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
    that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

    You forget that the only real religion in the U.S. is money.

    Indeed, we are a nation founded by the Ferengi peoples from a distant
    part of the universe.

    You should have noticed that we recently elected a new Grand Nagus to
    preside over the earth colony. And, always remember to obey the rules of acquisition, but nothing else.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Andy Gerald on Wed Feb 19 16:59:30 2025
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border


    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 17:02:10 2025
    dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:26:49 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 2:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:28:28 +0000, Ed P wrote:


    Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed, >>>> tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
    appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

    Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and >>>> paid them when they were done.

    These ladies were:

    A) Filipino
    B) Mexican
    C) Swedish

      B

    As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
    could not exist without them.

    I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
    Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
    raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

    These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
    have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
    day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
    weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the world.

    Tojo, aren't yoose glad trump hasn't yet decided to go after yoose
    asians who invaded da Hawayans?

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 23:06:43 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:26:17 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-02-19 3:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:26:49 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
    could not exist without them.

    I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
    Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
    raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

    These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
    have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
    day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
    weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
    world.


    You could go a long way to solving the problem by going after the people
    who are bringing them in and those who are employing illegal workers.
    Huge fines would counteract the appeal of low wages being paid.

    I agree. We're supposed to be getting rid of the nasty, violent,
    criminally prone, immigrants. Mostly, it's a terrorist campaign. To what
    end? I donno.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-deportation-raids-trump-immigration-b2695684.html

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Feb 19 18:11:25 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-02-19 3:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:26:49 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
    could not exist without them.

    I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
    Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
    raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

    These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
    have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
    day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
    weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
    world.


    You could go a long way to solving the problem by going after the people
    who are bringing them in and those who are employing illegal workers.
    Huge fines would counteract the appeal of low wages being paid.


    Officer Dave, he's not a policeman. Plus, he now has trump to do all
    that dirty work.

    Soon there will only be da hawayans (and da asians) left on his rock.
    Then there will be much aloha again (MAA)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Thu Feb 20 16:32:41 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025, Hank Rogers wrote:

    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border


    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

    Are you sure? What about the esquimaux?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?KCDNocKwIM2cypYgzaHCsCk=?@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Thu Feb 20 10:37:08 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
    ;
    ;
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to me@mine.myself on Thu Feb 20 16:37:38 2025
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
    ;
    ;
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Feb 20 12:45:01 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
    t;
    t;
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?


    I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Feb 20 13:07:23 2025
    On 2025-02-20 11:37 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
    t;
    t;
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?


    We are the banana belt compared to Greenland.

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Thu Feb 20 18:23:08 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 2/18/2025 7:17 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 2/18/2025 5:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-18, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
    state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

    My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
    (I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
    local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
    feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
    any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.



    I don't get it.  Ours is delayed a day and the pickup people have
    to work Saturday.  I don't know if they get paid extra for it but
    the work is the same.

    I tried several different trash pickup services over the years and
    they always promised next day after a holiday pickup but they never
    did show up the next day. Or even necessarily that week. Republic
    Waste, Waste Management, Sunshine Trash Services.

    I finally found a local service that not only picks up on holidays
    but charges less for their weekly service.

    It's not that I begrudge anyone taking a holiday off. Take the day
    off! But don't promise you'll pick up a day later and still charge
    me for not doing it. Meanwhile, the trash piles up and you don't
    show up until the next week maybe? I am so happy I found a locally
    based service trash pickup service that actually does what they say
    they will do.

    Jill

    We get rescheduled but not sure just when yet. 12 inches snow here and
    still falling but just about over. The 'official' take for southside
    is at ORF (Norfolk International Airport) but it's 25 miles from me.
    It shows 10 inches I think but local reports show that's just where the
    line predictions went from 10 to 12 inches closer to the ocean.

    So, trash days are all messed up. We'll miss Wed-Friday (Friday too
    cold for any real meltoff). Hard freezes last night and tonight.

    Best is folks calling heating companies who are ripping off people who
    didn't know heatpumps go to AUX mode at these temps and there's nothing
    wrong or fixable about it. Meantime, toasty here with the fireplace.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to me@mine.myself on Thu Feb 20 13:42:06 2025
    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> wrote:
    ...
    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    so is your brain.


    songbird

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Andy Gerald on Thu Feb 20 23:50:05 2025
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, Andy Gerald wrote:

    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
    t;
    t;
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?


    I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.


    Touché! Point Andy!

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Andy Gerald on Fri Feb 21 21:51:01 2025
    On 2025-02-20 10:45 a.m., Andy Gerald wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
      >
      >
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?


    I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

    You are a prick!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Feb 22 16:33:19 2025
    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:51:01 -0700, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-02-20 10:45 a.m., Andy Gerald wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
      >
      >
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?


    I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

    You are a prick!

    I remember a summer in southern (= extra grey and rainy) Tasmania with
    8 sunny days.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat Feb 22 02:33:54 2025
    Graham wrote:
    On 2025-02-20 10:45 a.m., Andy Gerald wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
      >
      >
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?

    ;
    I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

    You are a prick!


    Pricks are stuck up cunts.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to fos@sdf.org on Sun Feb 23 09:10:09 2025
    XPost: rec.food.preserving

    On 2/18/2025 11:14 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
    <https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>

    26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
    which it did.

    5 pounds diced sweet onions
    2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
    2 1/2 pounds diced celery

    20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
    from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
    the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
    proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
    their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
    strained, hot filled jars, processed for 30 minutes in the
    pressure canner plus heat up and cool down. my canner holds 18
    regular mouth pints so two batches.

    Sounds like you made and canned vegetable stock.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Feb 23 15:11:20 2025
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-02-20 10:45 a.m., Andy Gerald wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
      >
      >
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?


    I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

    You are a prick!


    Let us "get down to cases", Dear LIBTARD Graham...

    CanaDUH SUCKS - without the RICH United States as your southern
    neighbor, you'd just be "Rwanda with polar bears"...

    AHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...........!!!!!!!!!!!!

    😎


    --
    GM

    --

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  • From John@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Mon Feb 24 21:47:22 2025
    XPost: rec.food.preserving

    Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> writes:

    On 2/18/2025 11:14 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
    <https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>
    26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
    which it did.
    5 pounds diced sweet onions
    2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
    2 1/2 pounds diced celery
    20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
    from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
    the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
    proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
    their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
    strained, hot filled jars, processed for 30 minutes in the
    pressure canner plus heat up and cool down. my canner holds 18
    regular mouth pints so two batches.

    Sounds like you made and canned vegetable stock.

    Jill

    I thought the same thing -- I've generally considered "mirepoix" to
    imply that the vegetable solids remain in the dish.


    john

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 11:48:44 2025
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Sun, 23 Feb 2025, gm wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-02-20 10:45 a.m., Andy Gerald wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-02-20, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@mine.myself> <> wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Andy Gerald wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    We live close to the US border
      >
      >
    Just like 90% of you Canuks do.


    But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
    goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.


    Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

    When was the last time you were in Canada?


    I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

    You are a prick!


    Let us "get down to cases", Dear LIBTARD Graham...

    CanaDUH SUCKS - without the RICH United States as your southern
    neighbor, you'd just be "Rwanda with polar bears"...

    AHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...........!!!!!!!!!!!!

    😎


    --
    GM

    --

    Hmm, scientifically I do think you have a point!

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