On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much
more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of
work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 21:31:13 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
There is a bit of a trend for people to go into the trades. You can get
a degree in Interpretive Dance and get a job at Starbucks, or learn a
good trade and make 100k a year.
Lets revisit tariffs in 6 months. I'm not optimistic about them at all.
Tradies always seem to have a lot of work. We just had an electrician
spend 5 days on our property. Great guy, great work. But why are they
always working until retirement? Why aren't they drinking cocktails in
the Bahamas at age 55?
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:52:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellWho did Zelensky bring with him; I didn't know he brought
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
a buddy. But he was confused and thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I wonder where he ate lunch after he was shown the door?
It seems the White House staff ate his after he left.
On 2/28/2025 9:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellShameful? You are too polite. I bet Vladimir had a big smile watching it.
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much
more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of
work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
On 2025-03-01, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Tradies always seem to have a lot of work. We just had an electrician
spend 5 days on our property. Great guy, great work. But why are they
always working until retirement? Why aren't they drinking cocktails in
the Bahamas at age 55?
Be a saver, invest luckily or wisely, and hope the dollar doesn't
collapse. That's the best that any of us can do. Ain't the future all >mysterious and stuff?
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:55:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 21:31:13 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:I'm guessing the money is too good just to retire. Besides,
There is a bit of a trend for people to go into the trades. You can get >>>a degree in Interpretive Dance and get a job at Starbucks, or learn a >>>good trade and make 100k a year.
Lets revisit tariffs in 6 months. I'm not optimistic about them at all.
Tradies always seem to have a lot of work. We just had an electrician
spend 5 days on our property. Great guy, great work. But why are they
always working until retirement? Why aren't they drinking cocktails in
the Bahamas at age 55?
they can probably set their own hours and still make out a
like bandit.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 03:57:59 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:55:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 21:31:13 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:I'm guessing the money is too good just to retire. Besides,
Tradies always seem to have a lot of work. We just had an electrician
There is a bit of a trend for people to go into the trades. You can get >>>> a degree in Interpretive Dance and get a job at Starbucks, or learn a
good trade and make 100k a year.
Lets revisit tariffs in 6 months. I'm not optimistic about them at all. >>>
spend 5 days on our property. Great guy, great work. But why are they
always working until retirement? Why aren't they drinking cocktails in
the Bahamas at age 55?
they can probably set their own hours and still make out a
like bandit.
I'd rather stop working and start sipping cocktails on a beach if I
could afford it.
On 3/1/2025 12:11 AM, Bruce wrote:
I'd rather stop working and start sipping cocktails on a beach if I
could afford it.
If I was in the trades, probably. I drove a desk so the physical part
was not an issue. I did walk through the plant a couple of times a day.
At retirement age I cut to 4 days a week, a few years later, 3 days.
At 71 I was out.
The last few years, we started at 7 so we had coffee and chatted to
about 7:30, maybe longer. Wednesday was bagels, Thursday was McD
breakfast sandwiches, Friday donuts.
At noon, lunch, maybe with a glass of wine. Done at 4. In between, our
chat would be interrupted by having to do something.
I mentioned before, Sue and I still chat every Saturday morning.
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much
more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should,
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:52:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellWho did Zelensky bring with him; I didn't know he brought
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
a buddy. But he was confused and thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
Tradies always seem to have a lot of work. We just had an electrician
spend 5 days on our property. Great guy, great work. But why are they
always working until retirement? Why aren't they drinking cocktails in
the Bahamas at age 55?
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Zelensky thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
On 3/1/2025 4:01 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/1/2025 3:26 PM, Dave S wrote:
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
Sheldon used to shop there. If it was good enough for him, it is good
for the rest of us.
I miss Sheldon.
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:51:52 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 2/28/2025 9:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellShameful? You are too polite. I bet Vladimir had a big smile watching
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>> more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>> work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
it.
Yes, someone said Trump and Vance are doing Putin's dirty work.
They're his henchmen.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 10:26:21 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:Biden was head of the Pampers department. Even White House
Zelensky thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
staff have come out and said they didn't dare let Biden near
a camera or a microphone unless they had rehearsed what he
was to talk about again and again and again. They knew he
had cognitive problems.
Thus I stand by my statement, Zelensky thought Biden would
be there to write a blank check.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 10:26:21 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:Biden was head of the Pampers department. Even White House
Zelensky thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
staff have come out and said they didn't dare let Biden near
a camera or a microphone unless they had rehearsed what he
was to talk about again and again and again. They knew he
had cognitive problems.
Thus I stand by my statement, Zelensky thought Biden would
be there to write a blank check.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 4:38:17 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:51:52 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 2/28/2025 9:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellShameful? You are too polite. I bet Vladimir had a big smile watching
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>>> more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>>> work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
it.
Yes, someone said Trump and Vance are doing Putin's dirty work.
They're his henchmen.
It's called a "shakedown" in America. Anybody that thinks that Putin is >America's friend and will be true to his promises is pretty much
hypnotized. Anybody that thinks Trump is America's friend and will be
true to his promises is hypnotized.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 10:26:21 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:Biden was head of the Pampers department. Even White House
Zelensky thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
staff have come out and said they didn't dare let Biden near
a camera or a microphone unless they had rehearsed what he
was to talk about again and again and again. They knew he
had cognitive problems.
Thus I stand by my statement, Zelensky thought Biden would
be there to write a blank check.
Zelensky must be an evil leftard.
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:52:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellWho did Zelensky bring with him; I didn't know he brought
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>> more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>> work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
a buddy. But he was confused and thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
Ed P wrote:
On 2/28/2025 1:52 PM, gm wrote:
Zelensky's another whiny little puke, but THE DONALD put him in his
place, lol...!!!
NATIONAL REVIEW:
Trump, Zelensky Go at It in Heated Oval Office Debate: ‘You’re Gambling >>> with World War III!’
"President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance traded heated barbs
with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday, calling the
wartime leader “disrespectful” and saying he should be more “thankful”
for continued U.S. support...
Translation: I'm a bully and you should kiss my ass.
It doesn't help that while the US has been funding the Ukraine war
effort, Europe has bought close to a 100 billion dollars in natural gas
and oil from Russia, directly or laundered through India...
That's the kind of "commitment and sacrifice" we've come to expect from
our "allies" in western europe...
:-(
--
GM
--
On 2025-03-01 3:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:It's pointless trying to negotiate with Vladimir Trump, or is it
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:52:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellWho did Zelensky bring with him; I didn't know he brought
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>>> more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>>> work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
a buddy. But he was confused and thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
Donald Putin. He never keeps his word.
On 2025-03-01 3:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:It's pointless trying to negotiate with Vladimir Trump, or is it
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:52:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellWho did Zelensky bring with him; I didn't know he brought
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>>> more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>>> work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
a buddy. But he was confused and thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
Donald Putin. He never keeps his word.
On 2025-03-01 3:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:It's pointless trying to negotiate with Vladimir Trump, or is it
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:52:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellWho did Zelensky bring with him; I didn't know he brought
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>>> more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>>> work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
a buddy. But he was confused and thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
Donald Putin. He never keeps his word.
Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 01:18:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 4:38:17 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:51:52 -0500, Ed P <esp> wrote:
On 2/28/2025 9:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much
more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of
work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
Shameful? You are too polite. I bet Vladimir had a big smile watching
it.
Yes, someone said Trump and Vance are doing Putin's dirty work.
They're his henchmen.
It's called a "shakedown" in America. Anybody that thinks that Putin is
America's friend and will be true to his promises is pretty much
hypnotized. Anybody that thinks Trump is America's friend and will be
true to his promises is hypnotized.
Trump's looking for personal enrichment and Putin and his oligarchs
can help him with that. He'd also have sided with Hitler if there had
been money in it. And dumb Americans don't mind. They're too stupid to
poop, at least the Joans and the Leos.
--
Bruce
https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg
On 2025-03-01 3:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:It's pointless trying to negotiate with Vladimir Trump, or is it
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:52:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellWho did Zelensky bring with him; I didn't know he brought
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>>> more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>>> work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
a buddy. But he was confused and thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
Donald Putin. He never keeps his word.
On 2025-03-01 3:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-01, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:It's pointless trying to negotiate with Vladimir Trump, or is it
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 2:52:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 1 Mar 2025 01:55:50 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellWho did Zelensky bring with him; I didn't know he brought
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much >>>>> more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of >>>>> work, until she want's to be.
Did you see the two thugs try their hand at international diplomacy?
It was shameful.
a buddy. But he was confused and thought Biden would be
there to write a blank check.
I imagine he thought he would be negotiating with a head of
state rather than a spoiled child.
Donald Putin. He never keeps his word.
On 2025-02-28, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 2/28/2025 11:38 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-02-28, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 2/28/2025 7:48 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. Kretchmar
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese,
Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
Tomato soup with grilled cheese (even better with ham!) is classic. :) >>>> I have to ask. Why margarine and not butter?
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without.
Okay. I just find margarine to be a little too oily and much less
"buttery".
if i used non-stick cookware i probably wouldn't use margarine
either. i use iron and use only enough to help keep it from
stocking too much.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP (tetanus,
diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
Whooping cough? Are you around many babies?
i need a tetanus shot. CVS app lists both tetanus plus diphtheria,
and tetanus plus diphtheria plus whooping cough. i decided to wait
and ask my doc. had a regular checkup this week, she said the
tetanus, diphtheria, and whooping cough one, TDAP, so that's the
one i'm getting.
Okay, I'm not trying to argue with you. Just seems a simple tetanus
shot should be available without combining those other things. But hey,
in my area CVS is one of the most expensive pharmacies there is so why
not combine the shot and charge [possible insurance company] more.
my insurance covers the shots. i'd still go to the localy owned
pharmacy if it still existed. my wife worked at walmart
pharmacy as a tech until a new pharmacist that hated everyone
set her up for a HIPAA violation which got her fired so we won't
be going there again. there are Rite Aids in town and i forgot why
they lost my business, i simply never go there for anything.
Tops Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Target has one. used to be CVS don't know if it still is. was
nice going there because our Target is really slow, by that i
mean very few customers, and getting in and out is always quick.
stopped going there because a new pharmacist was being a
dickhead. as in questioning why the doctors were prescribing a
particular medicine kind of dickhead.
On 3/1/2025 3:26 PM, Dave S wrote:
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
Sheldon used to shop there. If it was good enough for him, it is good
for the rest of us.
Sounds like a wannabe doctor who didn't qualify for medical school.
I've never encountered a pharmacist that questioned what my doctor
prescribed for me. That would irritate me, too. I'm the only person
who has the right to question what my doctor is prescribing for me and why.
On 2025-03-02, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Sounds like a wannabe doctor who didn't qualify for medical school.
I've never encountered a pharmacist that questioned what my doctor
prescribed for me. That would irritate me, too. I'm the only person
who has the right to question what my doctor is prescribing for me and why.
Pharmacists often find interactions that doctors miss. Because:
1. Doctors aren't infallible
2. People often have more than one doctor, prescribing multiple
medications.
1. Doctors aren't infallible
2. People often have more than one doctor, prescribing multiple
medications.
I get that, Cindy. But I am not afraid to question my doctor or to ask questions. Some people take everything they say as gospel.
On 3/2/2025 8:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-02, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Pharmacists often find interactions that doctors miss. Because:
Sounds like a wannabe doctor who didn't qualify for medical school.
I've never encountered a pharmacist that questioned what my doctor
prescribed for me. That would irritate me, too. I'm the only person
who has the right to question what my doctor is prescribing for me and why. >>
1. Doctors aren't infallible
2. People often have more than one doctor, prescribing multiple
medications.
I get that, Cindy. But I am not afraid to question my doctor or to ask questions. Some people take everything they say as gospel.
On 2025-03-02 9:01 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
1. Doctors aren't infallible
2. People often have more than one doctor, prescribing multiple
medications.
I get that, Cindy. But I am not afraid to question my doctor or to ask
questions. Some people take everything they say as gospel.
When I pick up prescriptions these days I get a sheet with a list of all
the prescription medications I have had filled in the last few years. It lists them and the last refill. If I am getting medications from two ore
more doctors they will appear on that list.
When I pick up prescriptions these days I get a sheet with a list of all
the prescription medications I have had filled in the last few years. It
lists them and the last refill. If I am getting medications from two ore
more doctors they will appear on that list.
If you go to only one pharmacy. Of course, your health-care
system is not as fragmented as ours.
On 2025-03-02, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
The province's electronic health record (EHR) is an online resource
that makes all your health records available to all health care
providers and includes the family doctor, nurses, specials, ER
clinicians. It apparently has all prescription information. I am not
sure if it is fully up and running.
My doctor is owned by my local hospital; they have a system that
makes all my health records (includding prescriptions) available to
anybody in that system, including me. Except, for some reason, I
can't look at image files (including the X-rays and CT scans they
took when I fell down the stairs, which I would like to see).
The "concussion clinic" they sent me to uses a different system.
Of frickin' course.
On 2025-03-02 10:37 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
When I pick up prescriptions these days I get a sheet with a list of all >>> the prescription medications I have had filled in the last few years. It >>> lists them and the last refill. If I am getting medications from two ore >>> more doctors they will appear on that list.
If you go to only one pharmacy. Of course, your health-care
system is not as fragmented as ours.
Yes. I had to check but the list has all the medications from that
pharmacy. Looking at a recent one I see some that were prescribed by my family doctor, some by my regular cardiologist, some from the temporary cardiologist (mine on maternity leave), and some antibiotics from my
dentist. I have a couple prescriptions from the dermatologist that do
not show up because they were filled at the pharmacy next to his office.
The province's electronic health record (EHR) is an online resource
that makes all your health records available to all health care
providers and includes the family doctor, nurses, specials, ER
clinicians. It apparently has all prescription information. I am not
sure if it is fully up and running.
On 2025-02-28 9:37 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 2/28/2025 7:48 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. Kretchmar
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese,
Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
Tomato soup with grilled cheese (even better with ham!) is classic.
:) I have to ask. Why margarine and not butter?
FWIW I used to prefer margarine to butter for grilled cheese. A
couple years ago I switched to little olive oil. More recently I
have switched from cooking them on a grill or in a pan to doing them
in my air fryer.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP (tetanus, diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
Whooping cough? Are you around many babies?
How about measles? That appears to be making a comeback thanks to all
the anti vaxxers. I am not the only one hear who remembers the older students in our elementary schools having to wear steel braces
because they had had polio. We were vaccinated in Gr. 1 and never
knew of anyone to get polio after that.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 16:23:31 -0500, Dave S <respondto@group.invalid>
wrote:
On 3/1/2025 4:01 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/1/2025 3:26 PM, Dave S wrote:
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
Sheldon used to shop there. If it was good enough for him, it is good
for the rest of us.
I miss Sheldon.
What do you miss the most? His racism, his misogyny or his homophobia?
On 2025-03-02, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 3/2/2025 8:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-02, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
Sounds like a wannabe doctor who didn't qualify for medical school.
I've never encountered a pharmacist that questioned what my doctor
prescribed for me. That would irritate me, too. I'm the only person
who has the right to question what my doctor is prescribing for me and why.
Pharmacists often find interactions that doctors miss. Because:
1. Doctors aren't infallible
2. People often have more than one doctor, prescribing multiple
medications.
I get that, Cindy. But I am not afraid to question my doctor or to ask
questions. Some people take everything they say as gospel.
Do those people deserve to die from fatal drug interactions?
Pharmacists are the suspenders in "belt and suspenders".
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-02-28 9:37 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 2/28/2025 7:48 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. KretchmarTomato soup with grilled cheese (even better with ham!) is classic.
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese,
Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
:) I have to ask. Why margarine and not butter?
FWIW I used to prefer margarine to butter for grilled cheese. A
couple years ago I switched to little olive oil. More recently I
have switched from cooking them on a grill or in a pan to doing them
in my air fryer.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP (tetanus,Whooping cough? Are you around many babies?
diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
How about measles? That appears to be making a comeback thanks to all
the anti vaxxers. I am not the only one hear who remembers the older
students in our elementary schools having to wear steel braces
because they had had polio. We were vaccinated in Gr. 1 and never
knew of anyone to get polio after that.
I remember when the measles vaccine came out. All us kids in a line at
Kmart or the grocery store (don't recall which). Polio too. There was
no way to get in public school without a couple of vaccines. I think
they were all free for kids?
On 3/2/2025 10:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Pharmacists are the suspenders in "belt and suspenders".I don't take enough prescription medications that are likely to kill me
due to drug interactions.
no problems. I'm sorry if you and your husband take a lot of medication that you have to worry about what your doctor prescribes and need a pharmacist to intervene. Or perhaps you could just ask your doctor(s).
Or, as you are fond of saying, Google it.
Jill
On 2025-02-28, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 2/28/2025 11:38 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
if i used non-stick cookware i probably wouldn't use margarine
either. i use iron and use only enough to help keep it from
stocking too much.
i've loved rye bread my entire life. i love good
rye whisky too. Crown Royal is my goto.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP (tetanus,
diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
Whooping cough? Are you around many babies?
i need a tetanus shot. CVS app lists both tetanus plus diphtheria,
and tetanus plus diphtheria plus whooping cough. i decided to wait
and ask my doc. had a regular checkup this week, she said the
tetanus, diphtheria, and whooping cough one, TDAP, so that's the
one i'm getting.
Okay, I'm not trying to argue with you. Just seems a simple
tetanus shot should be available without combining those other
things. But hey, in my area CVS is one of the most expensive
pharmacies there is so why not combine the shot and charge
[possible insurance company] more.
my insurance covers the shots. i'd still go to the localy owned
pharmacy if it still existed. my wife worked at walmart
pharmacy as a tech until a new pharmacist that hated everyone
set her up for a HIPAA violation which got her fired so we won't
be going there again. there are Rite Aids in town and i forgot why
they lost my business, i simply never go there for anything. Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Target has one. used to be CVS don't know if it still is. was
nice going there because our Target is really slow, by that i
mean very few customers, and getting in and out is always quick.
stopped going there because a new pharmacist was being a
dickhead. as in questioning why the doctors were prescribing a
particular medicine kind of dickhead. so what's left is the CVS
that's a 3 minute drive from my house and that's why we go there.
my maintence meds are mail order by express scripts, which is part
of my medical insurance company through work. if you ever want to
read an angry, profanity filled rant, just ask me what i think
about that and i just might oblige. :)
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
On 3/1/2025 4:01 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/1/2025 3:26 PM, Dave S wrote:
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
Sheldon used to shop there. If it was good enough for him, it is
good for the rest of us.
I miss Sheldon. I would have bought a steam kettle if one fit in my apartment...
Dave S wrote:
On 3/1/2025 4:01 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/1/2025 3:26 PM, Dave S wrote:
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
Sheldon used to shop there. If it was good enough for him, it is
good for the rest of us.
I miss Sheldon. I would have bought a steam kettle if one fit in my
apartment...
LOL, we have one and use it a lot.
I don't take enough prescription medications that are likely to kill me
due to drug interactions. Been taking the same two Rx drugs for years,
no problems. I'm sorry if you and your husband take a lot of medication
that you have to worry about what your doctor prescribes and need a pharmacist to intervene. Or perhaps you could just ask your doctor(s).
Or, as you are fond of saying, Google it.
On 2025-03-02 3:28 p.m., Carol wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-02-28 9:37 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 2/28/2025 7:48 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. Kretchmar
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese, Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
Tomato soup with grilled cheese (even better with ham!) is
classic. :) I have to ask. Why margarine and not butter?
FWIW I used to prefer margarine to butter for grilled cheese. A
couple years ago I switched to little olive oil. More recently I
have switched from cooking them on a grill or in a pan to doing
them in my air fryer.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP
(tetanus, diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
Whooping cough? Are you around many babies?
How about measles? That appears to be making a comeback thanks to
all the anti vaxxers. I am not the only one hear who remembers
the older students in our elementary schools having to wear steel
braces because they had had polio. We were vaccinated in Gr. 1
and never knew of anyone to get polio after that.
I remember when the measles vaccine came out. All us kids in a
line at Kmart or the grocery store (don't recall which). Polio
too. There was no way to get in public school without a couple of vaccines. I think they were all free for kids?
You are a few years younger than I am so you probably don't remember
having students in school who had too wear those steel braces because
they had had polio. We got vaccinated in Gr. 1 and none of us got
polio. I had measles at some point before I started school.
Carol wrote:
Dave S wrote:
On 3/1/2025 4:01 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/1/2025 3:26 PM, Dave S wrote:
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Tops
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope.
Hi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
Sheldon used to shop there. If it was good enough for him, it is
good for the rest of us.
I miss Sheldon. I would have bought a steam kettle if one fit in my
apartment...
LOL, we have one and use it a lot.
LOL, I think they are referring to the 50 gallon steam cookers used by
the US Navy 75 years ago. Them old steam cookers made sense, since those
old navy tubs were powered by steam engines.
Popeye often bragged about them, and he was known to cook up massive
amounts of grub for only two old people.
Imagine how much shit he cooked for the hundreds of servicemen on those massive ships he commanded!
Especially when he intervened in the cuban missile crisis back in the
early 60's.
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:20:56 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:
Carol wrote:
Dave S wrote:
On 3/1/2025 4:01 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/1/2025 3:26 PM, Dave S wrote:
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
TopsHi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope. >>>>>>
Seldom shop there. Why nope?
Sheldon used to shop there. If it was good enough for him, it is >>>>> good for the rest of us.
I miss Sheldon. I would have bought a steam kettle if one fit in my
apartment...
LOL, we have one and use it a lot.
LOL, I think they are referring to the 50 gallon steam cookers used by
the US Navy 75 years ago. Them old steam cookers made sense, since those
old navy tubs were powered by steam engines.
Popeye often bragged about them, and he was known to cook up massive
amounts of grub for only two old people.
Imagine how much shit he cooked for the hundreds of servicemen on those
massive ships he commanded!
Especially when he intervened in the cuban missile crisis back in the
early 60's.
I remember when he said Southron hillybillies joined the Navy, it's the
first time they had shoes...
gm wrote:
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:20:56 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:
Carol wrote:
Dave S wrote:
On 3/1/2025 4:01 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/1/2025 3:26 PM, Dave S wrote:
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
TopsHi! I'm just a lurker in the 'cuse. Always look at the Tops ad.
Friendly Markets grocery has a pharmacy. on principle, just nope. >>>>>>>
Seldom shop there.ÃÂ Why nope?
Sheldon used to shop there.ÃÂ If it was good enough for him, it is >>>>>> good for the rest of us.
I miss Sheldon. I would have bought a steam kettle if one fit in my
apartment...
LOL, we have one and use it a lot.
LOL, I think they are referring to the 50 gallon steam cookers used by
the US Navy 75 years ago. Them old steam cookers made sense, since those >>> old navy tubs were powered by steam engines.
Popeye often bragged about them, and he was known to cook up massive
amounts of grub for only two old people.
Imagine how much shit he cooked for the hundreds of servicemen on those
massive ships he commanded!
Especially when he intervened in the cuban missile crisis back in the
early 60's.
I remember when he said Southron hillybillies joined the Navy, it's the
first time they had shoes...
Yep, that's when he had to teach them how to tie their new navy shoes!
And he had to work his ass off, cooking grits for them.
That's about all they'd eat.
It's best Mr. Zelenskyy stick with Europe in fighting this war...
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 12:03:47 +0000, gm wrote:
It's best Mr. Zelenskyy stick with Europe in fighting this war...
That Friday massacre was a set-up by Putin/Vance/Trump.
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 12:03:47 +0000, gm wrote:
It's best Mr. Zelenskyy stick with Europe in fighting this war...
That Friday massacre was a set-up by Putin/Vance/Trump. That whole scene
was created to be shown on Russian TV in a remarkable America/Russia PR campaign. Only the most feeble of mind would be fooled by what was going
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 12:03:47 +0000, gm wrote:
It's best Mr. Zelenskyy stick with Europe in fighting this war...
Meanwhile, back in the states, Trump/Musk tried to sneak 80 million
bucks out of the bank accounts of NYC. They got caught. This whole administration is a giant money grab.
On 2025-03-02, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I don't take enough prescription medications that are likely to kill me
due to drug interactions. Been taking the same two Rx drugs for years,
no problems. I'm sorry if you and your husband take a lot of medication
that you have to worry about what your doctor prescribes and need a
pharmacist to intervene. Or perhaps you could just ask your doctor(s).
Or, as you are fond of saying, Google it.
It's not about you, and it's not about my husband and me. It's
about millions of people who take multiple medications and don't
have the resources to know what they should be careful about.
On 2025-03-02, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-03-02 9:01 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
1. Doctors aren't infallible
2. People often have more than one doctor, prescribing multiple
medications.
I get that, Cindy. But I am not afraid to question my doctor or to ask
questions. Some people take everything they say as gospel.
When I pick up prescriptions these days I get a sheet with a list of all the prescription medications I have had filled in the last few years. It lists them and the last refill. If I am getting medications from two ore more doctors they will appear on that list.
If you go to only one pharmacy. Of course, your health-care
system is not as fragmented as ours.
In article <vq1u0c$r59u$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
If you go to only one pharmacy. Of course, your health-care
system is not as fragmented as ours.
In our health system, it suits me and the system for
me to inform my GP medical practice which pharmacy to
send all my presciptions to. I don't need to order
repeats, or go to the DDR's surgery to collect them.
There's no charge for the service or the meds.
In article <vq1u0c$r59u$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
@invalid.com says...
On 2025-03-02, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-03-02 9:01 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
When I pick up prescriptions these days I get a sheet with a list of all >>> the prescription medications I have had filled in the last few years. It >>> lists them and the last refill. If I am getting medications from two ore >>> more doctors they will appear on that list.1. Doctors aren't infallibleI get that, Cindy. But I am not afraid to question my doctor or to ask >>>> questions. Some people take everything they say as gospel.
2. People often have more than one doctor, prescribing multiple medications.
If you go to only one pharmacy. Of course, your health-care
system is not as fragmented as ours.
In our health system, it suits me and the system for
me to inform my GP medical practice which pharmacy to
send all my presciptions to. I don't need to order
repeats, or go to the DDR's surgery to collect them.
There's no charge for the service or the meds.
On 2025-03-02, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I don't take enough prescription medications that are likely to kill me
due to drug interactions. Been taking the same two Rx drugs for years,
no problems. I'm sorry if you and your husband take a lot of medication
that you have to worry about what your doctor prescribes and need a
pharmacist to intervene. Or perhaps you could just ask your doctor(s).
Or, as you are fond of saying, Google it.
It's not about you, and it's not about my husband and me. It's
about millions of people who take multiple medications and don't
have the resources to know what they should be careful about.
On 2/28/2025 2:05 PM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-02-28, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:That's kind of what I mean by "oily". :)
On 2/28/2025 11:38 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-02-28, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 2/28/2025 7:48 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. Kretchmar
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese,
Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
Tomato soup with grilled cheese (even better with ham!) is classic. :) >>>>> I have to ask. Why margarine and not butter?
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without.
Okay. I just find margarine to be a little too oily and much less
"buttery".
if i used non-stick cookware i probably wouldn't use margarine
either. i use iron and use only enough to help keep it from
stocking too much.
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up. Margarine
was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to butter. These days,
I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich. It's the better
tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
except now margarine has water added to the point where
you would be lowering the heat of the skillet to use it
at first until the water is boiled off. so it is less oily
now than it used to be.
butter also has some water in it naturally but not nearly
as much as what you get in margarine and plus butter is more
regulated so you get more consistent results.
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much
more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of
work, until she want's to be.
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up. Margarine
was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to butter. These days,
I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich. It's the better
tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
On 3/4/2025 3:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up. Margarine
was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to butter. These days,
I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich. It's the better
tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
OMG, I feel left out. Our family never got the message. We, including extended family, were stuck using pure better.
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
On 3/4/2025 3:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up. Margarine
was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to butter. These days,
I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich. It's the better
tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
OMG, I feel left out. Our family never got the message. We, including extended family, were stuck using pure better.
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
On 2025-03-04, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
Lucky you. My mother bought the cheapest margarine. It wasn't
even cut up into sticks. If memory serves, it was 19 cents per
pound in the 1970s. Of course, she used to tell me how, when
she was a kid, she had to mix in the dye to make it look less
like vegetable shortening.
We had butter on holidays. Looking back, it was cruel.My mother tried foisting margarine on us once. It was a failure.
On 2025-03-04 9:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-04, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
Lucky you. My mother bought the cheapest margarine. It wasn't
even cut up into sticks. If memory serves, it was 19 cents per
pound in the 1970s. Of course, she used to tell me how, when
she was a kid, she had to mix in the dye to make it look less
like vegetable shortening.
That margarine with the dye packs was gross.
Some people actually prefer margarine. It's hard to believe. I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce. When
it comes to spreading on bread I prefer butter. Heck, I insist on
butter. If there is only margarine I will eat it plain. I might add
that, unlike a lot of people here, I prefer unsalted butter.
On 2025-03-04 9:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-04, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
Lucky you. My mother bought the cheapest margarine. It wasn't
even cut up into sticks. If memory serves, it was 19 cents per
pound in the 1970s. Of course, she used to tell me how, when
she was a kid, she had to mix in the dye to make it look less
like vegetable shortening.
That margarine with the dye packs was gross.
Some people actually prefer margarine. It's hard to believe.
I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce. When
it comes to spreading on bread I prefer butter. Heck, I insist on
butter. If there is only margarine I will eat it plain. I might add
that, unlike a lot of people here, I prefer unsalted butter.
We had butter on holidays. Looking back, it was cruel.My mother tried foisting margarine on us once. It was a failure.
On 3/4/2025 3:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up. Margarine
was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to butter. These days,
I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich. It's the better
tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
OMG, I feel left out. Our family never got the message. We, including extended family, were stuck using pure better.
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
On 2025-03-04 9:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-04, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
Lucky you. My mother bought the cheapest margarine. It wasn't
even cut up into sticks. If memory serves, it was 19 cents per
pound in the 1970s. Of course, she used to tell me how, when
she was a kid, she had to mix in the dye to make it look less
like vegetable shortening.
That margarine with the dye packs was gross.
Some people actually prefer margarine. It's hard to believe. I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce.
On 3/4/2025 10:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-03-04 9:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-04, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
Lucky you. My mother bought the cheapest margarine. It wasn't
even cut up into sticks. If memory serves, it was 19 cents per
pound in the 1970s. Of course, she used to tell me how, when
she was a kid, she had to mix in the dye to make it look less
like vegetable shortening.
That margarine with the dye packs was gross.
Some people actually prefer margarine. It's hard to believe. I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce. When
it comes to spreading on bread I prefer butter. Heck, I insist on
butter. If there is only margarine I will eat it plain. I might add
that, unlike a lot of people here, I prefer unsalted butter.
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They go back
many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished product was
better with it. There were cookie type things, not a cake.
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 13:07:15 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 3/4/2025 3:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up. Margarine
was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to butter. These days, >>> I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich. It's the better
tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
OMG, I feel left out. Our family never got the message. We, including
extended family, were stuck using pure better.
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
My guess is that margarine was fiercely resisted in some parts of the
country - probably in areas that had a dairy industry.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 1:55:50 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much
more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of
work, until she want's to be.
I was changing the brake pads on my Toyota today. Those goofs at NAPA
gave me the wrong pads so I called my daughter to get a ride to the
store. I got new pads and my daughter's friend in the back seat grabbed
it from me. It was then that I noticed the tattoo of a spark plug on her
arm. She proceeded to install the pads for me. She said she went to a mechanic school on the mainland. She said she tried to get a job at a
shop but nobody wants to hire a mechanic that looks like her. She's a good-looking girl with long blond hair and striking looks. She just
doesn't look like any grease monkey that I've ever seen. DEI was made
for people like her.
Anyway, I worked on her guitar and she worked on my car. We both think
that Jeeps are kinda crude but the 4.0 L inline 6 is totally awesome so
she's alright in my book. It is a shame that she can't work in the field
that she went to school for.
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up.
Margarine was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to
butter. These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up.
Margarine was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to
butter. These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
On 3/4/2025 3:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up.
Margarine was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to
butter. These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese
sandwich. It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to
butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
OMG, I feel left out. Our family never got the message. We,
including extended family, were stuck using pure better.
First time I ever put margarine on toads what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up.
Margarine was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to
butter. These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up.
Margarine was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to
butter. These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 1:55:50 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2025-02-28, fos@sdf.org <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
and yes, i'm around babies all day long 5-6 days a week. you ever
worked with tool and die makers? the least whiny person in the
shop, besides myself and my son of course, is the young lady
(age late 20s) with bright orange hair currently, who finished
her tool and die apprenticeship a few years ago. :)
So she dumped a useless, political, college degree and opted for a much
more functional future. Good for her!
If tariffs bring industry back, as they should, she'll never be out of
work, until she want's to be.
I was changing the brake pads on my Toyota today. Those goofs at NAPA
gave me the wrong pads so I called my daughter to get a ride to the
store. I got new pads and my daughter's friend in the back seat grabbed
it from me. It was then that I noticed the tattoo of a spark plug on her
arm. She proceeded to install the pads for me. She said she went to a
mechanic school on the mainland. She said she tried to get a job at a
shop but nobody wants to hire a mechanic that looks like her. She's a
good-looking girl with long blond hair and striking looks. She just
doesn't look like any grease monkey that I've ever seen. DEI was made
for people like her.
Anyway, I worked on her guitar and she worked on my car. We both think
that Jeeps are kinda crude but the 4.0 L inline 6 is totally awesome so
she's alright in my book. It is a shame that she can't work in the field
that she went to school for.
Love is in the air.... nah nah nah nah.... =D
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They go
back many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished product
was better with it. There were cookie type things, not a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another matter
since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin to mayonnaise.
I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of eggs and oil. That might
work pretty good although it might be a little more expensive.
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They go
back many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished product
was better with it. There were cookie type things, not a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another matter
since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin to mayonnaise.
I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of eggs and oil. That might
work pretty good although it might be a little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses
ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just waste 90%
of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate then smear it on
the meat (usually chicken) then dip in seasoned bread crumbs (or
crushed corn flakes etc.).
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up.
Margarine was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to
butter. These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 0:07:27 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They go
back many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished product
was better with it. There were cookie type things, not a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another matter
since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin to mayonnaise.
I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of eggs and oil. That might
work pretty good although it might be a little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses
ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just waste 90%
of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate then smear it on
the meat (usually chicken) then dip in seasoned bread crumbs (or
crushed corn flakes etc.).
Mayo is great at sticking stuff to other stuff. I like to use Kewpie.
On 2025-03-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:...
I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce. When
it comes to spreading on bread I prefer butter. Heck, I insist on
butter. If there is only margarine I will eat it plain. I might add
that, unlike a lot of people here, I prefer unsalted butter.
Margarine as a substitute for butter is not as bad a Miracle Whip
as a substitute for mayonnaise. At least, to my taste buds.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:...
I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce. When
it comes to spreading on bread I prefer butter. Heck, I insist on
butter. If there is only margarine I will eat it plain. I might add
that, unlike a lot of people here, I prefer unsalted butter.
Margarine as a substitute for butter is not as bad a Miracle Whip
as a substitute for mayonnaise. At least, to my taste buds.
i have never considered MW as a substitute for mayo.
to
me they've always been distinct things for their own uses.
even when i mix them together i'm aware of what taste i'm
after as a result. pretty much the best thing to me is that
they are consistent enough that i don't have to guess.
That margarine with the dye packs was gross.
Some people actually prefer margarine. It's hard to believe. I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce. When
it comes to spreading on bread I prefer butter. Heck, I insist on
butter. If there is only margarine I will eat it plain. I might add
that, unlike a lot of people here, I prefer unsalted butter.
On 2025-03-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Margarine as a substitute for butter is not as bad a Miracle Whip
as a substitute for mayonnaise. At least, to my taste buds.
i have never considered MW as a substitute for mayo.
You're nearly unique, then. People who like MW use it as a
sandwich spread, for tuna salad, etc. People who like mayo
use it for the same things.
Miracle Whip is too sweet for me.
to
me they've always been distinct things for their own uses.
even when i mix them together i'm aware of what taste i'm
after as a result. pretty much the best thing to me is that
they are consistent enough that i don't have to guess.
What do you like MW for and what do you like mayo for?
On 2025-03-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I grew up in a butter family. I switched to tub margarine, because it's
so damned convenient.
My wife grew up in a margarine family. She switched to butter. Now, she
takes it out of the freezer, sets it on a butter dish and waits for it
to thaw. PITA!
I do use real butter for the minimal baking that I do.
I grew up in a butter family. I switched to tub margarine, because it's
so damned convenient.
On 2025-03-05 3:51 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Margarine as a substitute for butter is not as bad a Miracle Whip
as a substitute for mayonnaise. At least, to my taste buds.
i have never considered MW as a substitute for mayo.
You're nearly unique, then. People who like MW use it as a
sandwich spread, for tuna salad, etc. People who like mayo
use it for the same things.
Miracle Whip is too sweet for me.
to
me they've always been distinct things for their own uses.
even when i mix them together i'm aware of what taste i'm
after as a result. pretty much the best thing to me is that
they are consistent enough that i don't have to guess.
What do you like MW for and what do you like mayo for?
My mother disliked mayonnaise and always used Miracle Whip. I never
cared much for it but I didn't know the difference until I got married
and my wife insisted on mayo. I learned to prefer mayo but, perhaps due
to my early experiences, I never really got into the habit of using it.
On 2025-03-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
That margarine with the dye packs was gross.
Some people actually prefer margarine. It's hard to believe. I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce. When
it comes to spreading on bread I prefer butter. Heck, I insist on
butter. If there is only margarine I will eat it plain. I might add
that, unlike a lot of people here, I prefer unsalted butter.
I grew up in a butter family. I switched to tub margarine, because it's
so damned convenient.
My wife grew up in a margarine family. She switched to butter. Now, she
takes it out of the freezer, sets it on a butter dish and waits for it
to thaw. PITA!
On 2025-03-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
That margarine with the dye packs was gross.
Some people actually prefer margarine. It's hard to believe. I confess
to preferring it for grilled cheese and with Buffalo wings sauce. When
it comes to spreading on bread I prefer butter. Heck, I insist on
butter. If there is only margarine I will eat it plain. I might add
that, unlike a lot of people here, I prefer unsalted butter.
I grew up in a butter family. I switched to tub margarine, because it's
so damned convenient.
My wife grew up in a margarine family. She switched to butter. Now, she
takes it out of the freezer, sets it on a butter dish and waits for it
to thaw. PITA!
I do use real butter for the minimal baking that I do.
On 2025-03-04, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 3/4/2025 3:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up. Margarine
was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to butter. These days, >>> I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich. It's the better
tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
OMG, I feel left out. Our family never got the message. We, including
extended family, were stuck using pure better.
First time I ever put margarine on toast (fixed it for Ed) what in my 30s. We were
staying with friends and that is what was on the table at breakfast.
Lucky you. My mother bought the cheapest margarine. It wasn't
even cut up into sticks. If memory serves, it was 19 cents per
pound in the 1970s. Of course, she used to tell me how, when
she was a kid, she had to mix in the dye to make it look less
like vegetable shortening.
We had butter on holidays. Looking back, it was cruel.
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They go
back many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished product
was better with it. There were cookie type things, not a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another matter
since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin to mayonnaise.
I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of eggs and oil. That might
work pretty good although it might be a little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses
ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just waste 90%
of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate then smear it on
the meat (usually chicken) then dip in seasoned bread crumbs (or
crushed corn flakes etc.).
On 3/4/2025 9:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We had butter on holidays. Looking back, it was cruel.Yeah, we got to use butter on holidays. That's when Mom would
invariably put the dinner rolls in the oven and forget about them. "Mom burned the rolls again" became a familiar holiday refrain. Don't ask me
why she didn't use a timer for those rolls.
On 3/4/2025 7:07 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They go
back many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished product
was better with it. There were cookie type things, not a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another matter
since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin to mayonnaise.
I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of eggs and oil. That might
work pretty good although it might be a little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses
ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just waste 90%
of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate then smear it on
the meat (usually chicken) then dip in seasoned bread crumbs (or
crushed corn flakes etc.).
That's odd. I don't recall Shake N' Bake calling for mayonnaise. Then again, I don't recall ever buying Shake N' Bake. So I looked it up:
https://www.directionsforme.org/product/56390
The directions say to moisten the chicken pieces with water and put it
in the shaker bag with 1 packet of the seasoning mix and shake until the chicken is coated. No mention of mayo (or dipping/dredging). I surmise you're referring to an oddball copycat recipe since the whole point of
Shake N' Bake was to shake the chicken in a bag with the seasoning mix,
no muss, no fuss.
On 2025-03-06 4:51 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 9:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We had butter on holidays. Looking back, it was cruel.Yeah, we got to use butter on holidays. That's when Mom would
invariably put the dinner rolls in the oven and forget about them.
"Mom burned the rolls again" became a familiar holiday refrain. Don't
ask me why she didn't use a timer for those rolls.
She could have done worse than just burning the rolls. When I was a kid
it was quite common for people to heat canned vegetables by sticking
them in the oven. Of course you had to pierce the lid. My mother used to
run the can opener around the top but leave it in place. One of my aunts
was hosting a dinner and stuck a can of peas in the oven but forgot to
open the can first. It was a good thing everything was ready by the time
the can blew because it blew the door off the oven.
On 2025-03-06 5:04 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 7:07 PM, Carol wrote:I think we had it once. I later discovered oven fried chicken. It was a little more work but a lot cheaper and a lot better. It was a matter of dredging chicken pieces in seasoned flour then egg and then seasoned
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They go
back many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished product
was better with it. There were cookie type things, not a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another matter
since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin to mayonnaise.
I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of eggs and oil. That might
work pretty good although it might be a little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses
ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just waste 90%
of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate then smear it on
the meat (usually chicken) then dip in seasoned bread crumbs (or
crushed corn flakes etc.).
That's odd. I don't recall Shake N' Bake calling for mayonnaise.
Then again, I don't recall ever buying Shake N' Bake. So I looked it up: >>
https://www.directionsforme.org/product/56390
The directions say to moisten the chicken pieces with water and put it
in the shaker bag with 1 packet of the seasoning mix and shake until
the chicken is coated. No mention of mayo (or dipping/dredging). I
surmise you're referring to an oddball copycat recipe since the whole
point of Shake N' Bake was to shake the chicken in a bag with the
seasoning mix, no muss, no fuss.
crumbs.
A more interesting version of it was orange chicken. It had the same
seasoned flour dredge but the egg was mixed with some frozen orange concentrate. Then it was dredged in bread crumbs with salt, pepper and
orange zest. It was cooked in a 425F oven. The baking pan was
generously brushed with butter and it cooked for 20 minutes skin side
down and then flipped over for another 20 minutes. We haven't had that one in a long time and maybe it's time to put it back in the menu.
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of rye
and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to
the pan for each side of the sandwich.
These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
A more interesting version of it was orange chicken. It had the sameIf you like it, put it back on the menu.
seasoned flour dredge but the egg was mixed with some frozen orange
concentrate. Then it was dredged in bread crumbs with salt, pepper and
orange zest. It was cooked in a 425F oven. The baking pan was
generously brushed with butter and it cooked for 20 minutes skin side
down and then flipped over for another 20 minutes. We haven't had
that one in a long time and maybe it's time to put it back in the menu.
On 3/6/2025 5:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
She could have done worse than just burning the rolls. When I was aDamn! I never heard of reheating canned vegetables *in the can* in the
kid it was quite common for people to heat canned vegetables by
sticking them in the oven. Of course you had to pierce the lid. My
mother used to run the can opener around the top but leave it in
place. One of my aunts was hosting a dinner and stuck a can of peas in
the oven but forgot to open the can first. It was a good thing
everything was ready by the time the can blew because it blew the door
off the oven.
oven before! Why on earth would anyone do that? Didn't the cans have paper labels on them or were you supposed to peel them off first?
about your aunt's oven door but that sounds like a pretty stupid way to
heat up canned vegetables.
On 3/4/2025 6:45 PM, Carol wrote:
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
Yeah, I tried that once and didn't care for it either. It works, but
when it comes to grilled cheese sandwiches mayo is not better tasting
than butter.
On 2025-03-06 6:35 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 6:45 PM, Carol wrote:
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
Yeah, I tried that once and didn't care for it either. It works, but
when it comes to grilled cheese sandwiches mayo is not better tasting
than butter.
I had a grilled cheese today and was tempted to try mayo but I ended up
using sourdough whole wheat and that was enough variation for me so I
used margarine. It turned out great.
I think we've all heard about the having to dye the oleo story.
On 2025-03-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:...
to
me they've always been distinct things for their own uses.
even when i mix them together i'm aware of what taste i'm
after as a result. pretty much the best thing to me is that
they are consistent enough that i don't have to guess.
What do you like MW for and what do you like mayo for?
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:...
to
me they've always been distinct things for their own uses.
even when i mix them together i'm aware of what taste i'm
after as a result. pretty much the best thing to me is that
they are consistent enough that i don't have to guess.
What do you like MW for and what do you like mayo for?
i like MW for egg salad sandwhiches, cheeseburgers
with tomato, onion and ketchup and sometimes i like it
for bologna sandwiches or subs. i also like it for
Waldorf salad - the sweet and sour taste of it i like
how it goes with the walnuts and apples. and sometimes
a roasted turkey sandwich is just not the same without.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:...
to
me they've always been distinct things for their own uses.
even when i mix them together i'm aware of what taste i'm
after as a result. pretty much the best thing to me is that
they are consistent enough that i don't have to guess.
What do you like MW for and what do you like mayo for?
i like MW for egg salad sandwhiches, cheeseburgers
with tomato, onion and ketchup and sometimes i like it
for bologna sandwiches or subs. i also like it for
Waldorf salad - the sweet and sour taste of it i like
how it goes with the walnuts and apples. and sometimes
a roasted turkey sandwich is just not the same without.
i like mayo with cheese sandwiches and that varies
with the type of cheese. i like mayo with chicken salad
and pretty much many other chicken and vegetable dishes
i like more with mayo. i also like mayo and cheese mixed
together on beans and a shot of hotsauce. i don't want
those sweet because if i wanted them sweeter i'd just
more likely end up making BBQ beans.
i blend them in various proportions for things like
fake liver pate' or hummus (sometimes for hummus i leave
them out entirely just for something different).
kinda a summary as there are many things i like one
or the other on and then there are things i don't
ever eat with either of them. peanut butter and mayo
was tried once, um, nope, same with MW, nope.
Fair enough. It sounds like you use MW as a shortcut for
adding a little sugar and vinegar to mayo.
I'd never add mayo to hummus. Chickpeas, tahini,
olive oil, garlic, lemon juice, and salt. That's it.
If I'm using it as a dip, I'll usually garnish it with
chili flakes or cumin or sumac powder. If I'm using
it as a sandwich spread, it gets topped with various
veggies like cucumber, scallion, tomato, lettuce, or
radish.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
Fair enough. It sounds like you use MW as a shortcut for
adding a little sugar and vinegar to mayo.
i do like sweet and sour but to me mayo is quite enough
different that using it and adding sugar and vinegar still
doesn't get the same flavor. i grew up where MW was the
regular spread used and mayo was hardly ever used until
more recent years.
i do like them both.
I'd never add mayo to hummus. Chickpeas, tahini,
olive oil, garlic, lemon juice, and salt. That's it.
i can eat it that ways too. when i want a more creamy
hummus is when i use the MW and/or mayo.
If I'm using it as a dip, I'll usually garnish it with
chili flakes or cumin or sumac powder. If I'm using
it as a sandwich spread, it gets topped with various
veggies like cucumber, scallion, tomato, lettuce, or
radish.
i don't normally top it with anything because i make
enough for it to be stored in the fridge for a while and
then used for whatever.
On 2025-03-06, Jill McQuown wrote:
I think we've all heard about the having to dye the oleo story.
Your family had that story too? The one where Mom was in
a hurry and a relative was helping her get supper ready,
and the lady had never mixed the dye into margarine,
and my Mom just told her to empty the dye into the plastic
mixing bag with the white margarine and then "squeeze it
real hard", but forgot to tell her to tie the bag closed.?
On 2025-03-06 6:26 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
I used to get frozen orange juice occasionally with the idea of doing it
A more interesting version of it was orange chicken. It had the sameIf you like it, put it back on the menu.
seasoned flour dredge but the egg was mixed with some frozen orange
concentrate. Then it was dredged in bread crumbs with salt, pepper
and orange zest. It was cooked in a 425F oven. The baking pan was
generously brushed with butter and it cooked for 20 minutes skin
side down and then flipped over for another 20 minutes. We haven't
had that one in a long time and maybe it's time to put it back in the
menu.
but I would end up making orange juice and then drinking too much of it
and be reminded why I don't drink orange juice.
On 3/6/2025 7:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I used to get frozen orange juice occasionally with the idea of doingI'm probably one of the few people who doesn't like the taste of orange juice. I like grapefruit juice but I don't drink it anymore because
it but I would end up making orange juice and then drinking too much
of it and be reminded why I don't drink orange juice.
it's contraindicated with the statin I take for cholesterol.
On 2025-03-07 11:22 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/6/2025 7:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I used to get frozen orange juice occasionally with the idea of doingI'm probably one of the few people who doesn't like the taste of orange
it but I would end up making orange juice and then drinking too much
of it and be reminded why I don't drink orange juice.
juice. I like grapefruit juice but I don't drink it anymore because
it's contraindicated with the statin I take for cholesterol.
I think perhaps not being able to eat oranges or to drink the juice
makes it taste all the better. The last time I ate grapefruit was more
than 40 years ago and I still remember how much my system was rebelling
even the next day. No thanks.
On 2025-03-07 11:22 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/6/2025 7:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I used to get frozen orange juice occasionally with the idea of doingI'm probably one of the few people who doesn't like the taste of
it but I would end up making orange juice and then drinking too much
of it and be reminded why I don't drink orange juice.
orange juice. I like grapefruit juice but I don't drink it anymore
because it's contraindicated with the statin I take for cholesterol.
I think perhaps not being able to eat oranges or to drink the juice
makes it taste all the better. The last time I ate grapefruit was more
than 40 years ago and I still remember how much my system was rebelling
even the next day. No thanks.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 17:57:26 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I think perhaps not being able to eat oranges or to drink the juice
makes it taste all the better. The last time I ate grapefruit was more
than 40 years ago and I still remember how much my system was rebelling
even the next day. No thanks.
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious.
I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
On 2025-03-07 2:05 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 17:57:26 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I think perhaps not being able to eat oranges or to drink the juice
makes it taste all the better. The last time I ate grapefruit was more
than 40 years ago and I still remember how much my system was rebelling
even the next day. No thanks.
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious.
They used to sell special knives and spoons for grapefruit. Son of a
gun... I went online to search and they still do.
I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into
grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
I once made a ruby grapefruit sorbet. It was very good. I was able to
get away with small servings of it. It was pretty easy to make.All I
had to do was make some simple syrup, cool it and then mix it with some
red grapefruit juice and into the ice cream maker.
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into
grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into
grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no grapefruit.
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into
grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 17:57:26 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-03-07 11:22 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/6/2025 7:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I used to get frozen orange juice occasionally with the idea of doingI'm probably one of the few people who doesn't like the taste of orange
it but I would end up making orange juice and then drinking too much
of it and be reminded why I don't drink orange juice.
juice. I like grapefruit juice but I don't drink it anymore because
it's contraindicated with the statin I take for cholesterol.
I think perhaps not being able to eat oranges or to drink the juice
makes it taste all the better. The last time I ate grapefruit was more
than 40 years ago and I still remember how much my system was rebelling
even the next day. No thanks.
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:27:03 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I once made a ruby grapefruit sorbet. It was very good. I was able to
get away with small servings of it. It was pretty easy to make.All I
had to do was make some simple syrup, cool it and then mix it with some
red grapefruit juice and into the ice cream maker.
It sounds excellent. In my old age, I started appreciating bitter melon
and grapefruit. Bitter melon is supposed to lower blood sugar levels.
Well, that's what the Chinese say. I guess I'd rather eat bitter melon
than bitter grapefruit.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 17:57:26 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-03-07 11:22 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/6/2025 7:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I used to get frozen orange juice occasionally with the idea of doingI'm probably one of the few people who doesn't like the taste of orange
it but I would end up making orange juice and then drinking too much
of it and be reminded why I don't drink orange juice.
juice. I like grapefruit juice but I don't drink it anymore because
it's contraindicated with the statin I take for cholesterol.
I think perhaps not being able to eat oranges or to drink the juice
makes it taste all the better. The last time I ate grapefruit was more
than 40 years ago and I still remember how much my system was rebelling
even the next day. No thanks.
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
On 2025-03-07 3:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:27:03 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I once made a ruby grapefruit sorbet. It was very good. I was able to
get away with small servings of it. It was pretty easy to make.All I
had to do was make some simple syrup, cool it and then mix it with some
red grapefruit juice and into the ice cream maker.
It sounds excellent. In my old age, I started appreciating bitter melon
and grapefruit. Bitter melon is supposed to lower blood sugar levels.
Well, that's what the Chinese say. I guess I'd rather eat bitter melon
than bitter grapefruit.
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a
negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family
food tradition that she never liked.
On 3/7/2025 12:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-03-07 11:22 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:It doesn't taste better to me. I never cared for orange juice. I have
On 3/6/2025 7:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I used to get frozen orange juice occasionally with the idea ofI'm probably one of the few people who doesn't like the taste of
doing it but I would end up making orange juice and then drinking
too much of it and be reminded why I don't drink orange juice.
orange juice. I like grapefruit juice but I don't drink it anymore
because it's contraindicated with the statin I take for cholesterol.
I think perhaps not being able to eat oranges or to drink the juice
makes it taste all the better. The last time I ate grapefruit was more
than 40 years ago and I still remember how much my system was
rebelling even the next day. No thanks.
a very old glass juicer I vaguely remember my mother using for making
fresh squeezed orange juice when I was very young. I've had fresh, had frozen from concentrate and never liked the taste of orange juice. I
also never drank enough to have to worry about the acidic repercussions.
Oh well. You won't be making orange chicken. I won't either.
Jill
On 2025-03-07 3:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:27:03 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I once made a ruby grapefruit sorbet. It was very good. I was able to
get away with small servings of it. It was pretty easy to make.All I
had to do was make some simple syrup, cool it and then mix it with some
red grapefruit juice and into the ice cream maker.
It sounds excellent. In my old age, I started appreciating bitter melon
and grapefruit. Bitter melon is supposed to lower blood sugar levels.
Well, that's what the Chinese say. I guess I'd rather eat bitter melon
than bitter grapefruit.
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a
negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family
food tradition that she never liked.
The bitterness of grapefruit is part of its charm. The combination of
sweet, sour and bitter works well together, though perhaps a little overpowering. I love it but can't eat it. My wife can eat it but
rarely does. I used to love grapefruit flavoured pop. It was quite
popular when I was a kid but I don't recall seeing any of the major
brands carrying it in ages.
On 2025-03-07 3:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:27:03 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I once made a ruby grapefruit sorbet. It was very good. I was able to
get away with small servings of it. It was pretty easy to make.All I
had to do was make some simple syrup, cool it and then mix it with some
red grapefruit juice and into the ice cream maker.
It sounds excellent. In my old age, I started appreciating bitter melon
and grapefruit. Bitter melon is supposed to lower blood sugar levels.
Well, that's what the Chinese say. I guess I'd rather eat bitter melon
than bitter grapefruit.
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a
negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family
food tradition that she never liked.
The bitterness of grapefruit is part of its charm. The combination of
sweet, sour and bitter works well together, though perhaps a little overpowering. I love it but can't eat it. My wife can eat it but
rarely does. I used to love grapefruit flavoured pop. It was quite
popular when I was a kid but I don't recall seeing any of the major
brands carrying it in ages.
They used to sell special knives and spoons for grapefruit. Son of a
gun... I went online to search and they still do.
On 3/4/2025 6:45 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of
rye and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8
tsp, to the pan for each side of the sandwich.
These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
Yeah, I tried that once and didn't care for it either. It works, but
when it comes to grilled cheese sandwiches mayo is not better tasting
than butter.
Jill
On 2025-03-07, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
They used to sell special knives and spoons for grapefruit. Son of a
gun... I went online to search and they still do.
I bet I've got grapefruit spoons in the basement. Can't remember
the last time I owned a grapefruit knife. The last time I ate
grapefruit, I used a paring knife to peel it and cut it into
supremes.
Back when I was a kid, I salted my grapefruit rather than putting
sugar on it. Now I just eat it plain. I also used to salt watermelon, apples, and cantaloupe. A little pepper on the cantaloupe, too.
On 2025-03-04 6:45 p.m., Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of
rye and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8
tsp, to the pan for each side of the sandwich.
Most of the boomer generation used margarine when growing up.
Margarine was seen as the healthier and cheaper alternative to
butter. These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese
sandwich. It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to
butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
I had one today, brushed with olive oil and cooked in the air fryer. Wonderful.
Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 6:45 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of
rye and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8
tsp, to the pan for each side of the sandwich.
These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
Yeah, I tried that once and didn't care for it either. It works, but
when it comes to grilled cheese sandwiches mayo is not better tasting
than butter.
Jill
Correct. NOT my thing at all and I love mayo. I want the small
buttery taste there for a grilled cheese.
Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 6:45 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of
rye and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8
tsp, to the pan for each side of the sandwich.
These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
Yeah, I tried that once and didn't care for it either. It works, but
when it comes to grilled cheese sandwiches mayo is not better tasting
than butter.
Jill
Correct. NOT my thing at all
Carol wrote:
Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 6:45 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make grilled
ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox. since about 10
years ago i've been making it exclusively on that one brand of
rye and adding a little dollop of bacon fat, no more than 1/8
tsp, to the pan for each side of the sandwich.
These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
Yeah, I tried that once and didn't care for it either. It works, but
when it comes to grilled cheese sandwiches mayo is not better tasting
than butter.
Jill
Correct. NOT my thing at all
Yes. Your thing is marching lock-step with her royal Majesty.
On 3/4/2025 7:07 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They
go back many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished
product was better with it. There were cookie type things, not
a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another
matter since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin to mayonnaise. I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of eggs
and oil. That might work pretty good although it might be a
little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses
ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just waste
90% of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate then smear
it on the meat (usually chicken) then dip in seasoned bread crumbs
(or crushed corn flakes etc.).
That's odd. I don't recall Shake N' Bake calling for mayonnaise.
Then again, I don't recall ever buying Shake N' Bake. So I looked it
up:
https://www.directionsforme.org/product/56390
The directions say to moisten the chicken pieces with water and put
it in the shaker bag with 1 packet of the seasoning mix and shake
until the chicken is coated. No mention of mayo (or
dipping/dredging). I surmise you're referring to an oddball copycat
recipe since the whole point of Shake N' Bake was to shake the
chicken in a bag with the seasoning mix, no muss, no fuss.
Jill
You must put on much more than the skim coat I use. I don't get a
tasted from either one, it just helps the bread get a toasted finish.
The advantage of mayo is that is goes on thing and spreads easily
compared to butter out of the fridge.
On 2025-03-08, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
You must put on much more than the skim coat I use. I don't get a
tasted from either one, it just helps the bread get a toasted finish.
The advantage of mayo is that is goes on thing and spreads easily
compared to butter out of the fridge.
If I don't have any soft butter, I just melt the butter in the pan
and move the sandwich around in it. When I flip the sandwich I add
more butter.
I get a lot of butter taste. It pairs beautifully with the flavor
of the cheese (Kraft sharp cheddar or occasionally Sargento Swiss).
On 3/8/2025 5:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-08, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
If I don't have any soft butter, I just melt the butter in the panThat's what I do, Cindy; melt the butter in the pan rather than spread
and move the sandwich around in it. When I flip the sandwich I add
more butter.
I get a lot of butter taste. It pairs beautifully with the flavor
of the cheese (Kraft sharp cheddar or occasionally Sargento Swiss).
it on the bread. Add more butter when turning the sandwich. Sometimes I'll heat a little olive oil along with the butter (allegedly more healthy). This method wouldn't work for those who use an air fryer to
make a grilled cheese sandwich (something I have yet to try).
On 2025-03-08 9:09 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/8/2025 5:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-08, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
If I don't have any soft butter, I just melt the butter in the panThat's what I do, Cindy; melt the butter in the pan rather than spread
and move the sandwich around in it. When I flip the sandwich I add
more butter.
I get a lot of butter taste. It pairs beautifully with the flavor
of the cheese (Kraft sharp cheddar or occasionally Sargento Swiss).
it on the bread. Add more butter when turning the sandwich.
Sometimes I'll heat a little olive oil along with the butter
(allegedly more healthy). This method wouldn't work for those who use
an air fryer to make a grilled cheese sandwich (something I have yet
to try).
I like to use olive oil and have found the best way to spread it evenly
is to drizzle it into the pan and brush it around in an area large
enough for the bread.
On 3/8/2025 10:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I like to use olive oil and have found the best way to spread itI don't really see the need for a brush.
evenly is to drizzle it into the pan and brush it around in an area
large enough for the bread.
skillet and swirl it around (with the butter as it melts).
tried it with only olive oil. Doesn't seem like it would taste as good without the butter.
time I'd use a slightly larger non-stick skillet. :)
Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 7:07 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine. They
go back many years but supposedly, the texture of the finished
product was better with it. There were cookie type things, not
a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another
matter since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin to
mayonnaise. I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of eggs
and oil. That might work pretty good although it might be a
little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses
ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just waste
90% of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate then smear
it on the meat (usually chicken) then dip in seasoned bread crumbs
(or crushed corn flakes etc.).
That's odd. I don't recall Shake N' Bake calling for mayonnaise.
Then again, I don't recall ever buying Shake N' Bake. So I looked it
up:
https://www.directionsforme.org/product/56390
The directions say to moisten the chicken pieces with water and put
it in the shaker bag with 1 packet of the seasoning mix and shake
until the chicken is coated. No mention of mayo (or
dipping/dredging). I surmise you're referring to an oddball copycat
recipe since the whole point of Shake N' Bake was to shake the
chicken in a bag with the seasoning mix, no muss, no fuss.
Jill
I have one that says water too. This one had mayo. Maybe it was a
store brand?
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:33:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-03-07 3:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:27:03 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I once made a ruby grapefruit sorbet. It was very good. I was able to
get away with small servings of it. It was pretty easy to make.All I >>>> had to do was make some simple syrup, cool it and then mix it with some >>>> red grapefruit juice and into the ice cream maker.
It sounds excellent. In my old age, I started appreciating bitter melon
and grapefruit. Bitter melon is supposed to lower blood sugar levels.
Well, that's what the Chinese say. I guess I'd rather eat bitter melon
than bitter grapefruit.
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a
negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family
food tradition that she never liked.
I can understand that people eat bitter melon for real or perceived
medical reasons, for instance when they have diabetes. But it doesn't
taste better than a bunch of ground-up headache pills.
On 2025-03-08 9:09 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/8/2025 5:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-08, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
If I don't have any soft butter, I just melt the butter in the panThat's what I do, Cindy; melt the butter in the pan rather than spread
and move the sandwich around in it. When I flip the sandwich I add
more butter.
I get a lot of butter taste. It pairs beautifully with the flavor
of the cheese (Kraft sharp cheddar or occasionally Sargento Swiss).
it on the bread. Add more butter when turning the sandwich. Sometimes
I'll heat a little olive oil along with the butter (allegedly more
healthy). This method wouldn't work for those who use an air fryer to
make a grilled cheese sandwich (something I have yet to try).
I like to use olive oil and have found the best way to spread it evenly
is to drizzle it into the pan and brush it around in an area large
enough for the bread.
On 3/8/2025 10:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-03-08 9:09 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:I don't really see the need for a brush. I use a small non-stick
On 3/8/2025 5:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-08, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
If I don't have any soft butter, I just melt the butter in the panThat's what I do, Cindy; melt the butter in the pan rather than spread
and move the sandwich around in it. When I flip the sandwich I add
more butter.
I get a lot of butter taste. It pairs beautifully with the flavor
of the cheese (Kraft sharp cheddar or occasionally Sargento Swiss).
it on the bread. Add more butter when turning the sandwich.
Sometimes I'll heat a little olive oil along with the butter
(allegedly more healthy). This method wouldn't work for those who use
an air fryer to make a grilled cheese sandwich (something I have yet
to try).
I like to use olive oil and have found the best way to spread it evenly
is to drizzle it into the pan and brush it around in an area large
enough for the bread.
skillet and swirl it around (with the butter as it melts). I've never
tried it with only olive oil. Doesn't seem like it would taste as good >without the butter. If I were making two grilled cheese sandwiches at a
time I'd use a slightly larger non-stick skillet. :)
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:16:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:33:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a >>>negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family >>>food tradition that she never liked.
I can understand that people eat bitter melon for real or perceived
medical reasons, for instance when they have diabetes. But it doesn't
taste better than a bunch of ground-up headache pills.
I eat bitter melon because of the taste, not because it'll make me
healthy. It doesn't matter much if people can't comprehend that. I'd eat
it more but it's 5 bucks a pound.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjbABETBU1MAP3ct6
On 3/7/2025 6:58 PM, Carol wrote:
Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 6:45 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:38:46 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i grew up eating them made with margarine. my wife did too.
we've tried butter and prefer it without. i used to make
grilled ham and cheese on whatever was in the breadbox.
since about 10 years ago i've been making it exclusively on
that one brand of rye and adding a little dollop of bacon
fat, no more than 1/8 tsp, to the pan for each side of the sandwich.
These days, I'll use mayo to make a grilled cheese sandwich.
It's the better tasting, nicer looking alternative to butter.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WoVWR1kLFAoFXo8H9
Not for me. I tried it once with mayo. Horrible.
Yeah, I tried that once and didn't care for it either. It works,
but when it comes to grilled cheese sandwiches mayo is not better
tasting than butter.
Jill
Correct. NOT my thing at all and I love mayo. I want the small
buttery taste there for a grilled cheese.
You must put on much more than the skim coat I use. I don't get a
tasted from either one, it just helps the bread get a toasted finish.
The advantage of mayo is that is goes on thing and spreads easily
compared to butter out of the fridge.
I taste the cheese!.
On 2025-03-08 9:09 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/8/2025 5:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-08, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
If I don't have any soft butter, I just melt the butter in the pan
and move the sandwich around in it. When I flip the sandwich I
add more butter.
I get a lot of butter taste. It pairs beautifully with the flavor
of the cheese (Kraft sharp cheddar or occasionally Sargento
Swiss).
That's what I do, Cindy; melt the butter in the pan rather than
spread it on the bread. Add more butter when turning the
sandwich. Sometimes I'll heat a little olive oil along with the
butter (allegedly more healthy). This method wouldn't work for
those who use an air fryer to make a grilled cheese sandwich
(something I have yet to try).
I like to use olive oil and have found the best way to spread it
evenly is to drizzle it into the pan and brush it around in an area
large enough for the bread.
On 2025-03-08 10:14 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/8/2025 10:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I like to use olive oil and have found the best way to spread it
evenly is to drizzle it into the pan and brush it around in an
area large enough for the bread.
I don't really see the need for a brush.
It saves me from burning my fingers ;-)
I use a small non-stick
skillet and swirl it around (with the butter as it melts).
I like to reduce the amount of fat/oil/butter. It saves me some
calories and it saves me from my body's reaction to ingesting a lot
of fat.
I've never
tried it with only olive oil. Doesn't seem like it would taste as
good without the butter.
Personally, butter is my least favourite fats for grilling
sandwiches. As much as I dislike margarine as a substitute for butter
on bread and rolls, I prefer it to butter on grilled cheese. I like
it with some good olive oil.
If I were making two grilled cheese sandwiches at a
time I'd use a slightly larger non-stick skillet. :)
I am an air fryer convert now. I get much better results cooking
them in the air fryer than grilling them in a pan.
On 3/7/2025 9:10 PM, Carol wrote:
Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 7:07 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine.
They go back many years but supposedly, the texture of the
finished product was better with it. There were cookie
type things, not a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another
matter since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin
to mayonnaise. I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of
eggs and oil. That might work pretty good although it might
be a little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just
waste 90% of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate
then smear it on the meat (usually chicken) then dip in
seasoned bread crumbs (or crushed corn flakes etc.).
That's odd. I don't recall Shake N' Bake calling for mayonnaise.
Then again, I don't recall ever buying Shake N' Bake. So I
looked it up:
https://www.directionsforme.org/product/56390
The directions say to moisten the chicken pieces with water and
put it in the shaker bag with 1 packet of the seasoning mix and
shake until the chicken is coated. No mention of mayo (or dipping/dredging). I surmise you're referring to an oddball
copycat recipe since the whole point of Shake N' Bake was to
shake the chicken in a bag with the seasoning mix, no muss, no
fuss.
Jill
I have one that says water too. This one had mayo. Maybe it was a
store brand?
I have no idea what you're recalling. It doesn't make much sense
that a store brand Shake N' Bake would say you should coat the meat
in mayo first, which undoubtedly is more expensive than water and the seasoning packet. Store brands generally strive to be less expensive
than the name brand.
Jill
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:43:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:16:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:33:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a >>>>negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family >>>>food tradition that she never liked.
I can understand that people eat bitter melon for real or perceived
medical reasons, for instance when they have diabetes. But it doesn't
taste better than a bunch of ground-up headache pills.
I eat bitter melon because of the taste, not because it'll make me
healthy. It doesn't matter much if people can't comprehend that. I'd eat
it more but it's 5 bucks a pound.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjbABETBU1MAP3ct6
Maybe your Chinese way of cooking it makes something barely edible
taste good.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:25:06 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:43:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:16:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:33:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a >>>>>negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family >>>>>food tradition that she never liked.
I can understand that people eat bitter melon for real or perceived
medical reasons, for instance when they have diabetes. But it doesn't
taste better than a bunch of ground-up headache pills.
I eat bitter melon because of the taste, not because it'll make me >>>healthy. It doesn't matter much if people can't comprehend that. I'd eat >>>it more but it's 5 bucks a pound.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjbABETBU1MAP3ct6
Maybe your Chinese way of cooking it makes something barely edible
taste good.
Perhaps the Chinese are so far advanced in their culinary >knowledge/history/tradition as to be incomprehensible to people that are >terrified of the world's food.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 20:06:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:25:06 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:43:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:16:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:33:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a >>>>>>negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family >>>>>>food tradition that she never liked.
I can understand that people eat bitter melon for real or perceived
medical reasons, for instance when they have diabetes. But it doesn't >>>>> taste better than a bunch of ground-up headache pills.
I eat bitter melon because of the taste, not because it'll make me >>>>healthy. It doesn't matter much if people can't comprehend that. I'd eat >>>>it more but it's 5 bucks a pound.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjbABETBU1MAP3ct6
Maybe your Chinese way of cooking it makes something barely edible
taste good.
Perhaps the Chinese are so far advanced in their culinary >>knowledge/history/tradition as to be incomprehensible to people that are >>terrified of the world's food.
Of the world's unnecessary food additives, you mean. Of the crap that
gave you diabetes. You should have had the occasional glass of wine
instead, you scared wimp.
On 3/7/2025 4:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-03-07 3:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:27:03 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I once made a ruby grapefruit sorbet. It was very good. I was able to
get away with small servings of it. It was pretty easy to make.All I >>>> had to do was make some simple syrup, cool it and then mix it with some >>>> red grapefruit juice and into the ice cream maker.
It sounds excellent. In my old age, I started appreciating bitter melon
and grapefruit. Bitter melon is supposed to lower blood sugar levels.
Well, that's what the Chinese say. I guess I'd rather eat bitter melon
than bitter grapefruit.
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a negative >> way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family food
tradition that she never liked.
The bitterness of grapefruit is part of its charm. The combination of
sweet, sour and bitter works well together, though perhaps a little
overpowering. I love it but can't eat it. My wife can eat it but rarely >> does. I used to love grapefruit flavoured pop. It was quite popular when I >> was a kid but I don't recall seeing any of the major brands carrying it in >> ages.
It was not always grapefruit. Pomelo and shaddock it how it was known.
Here is some history of the Grapefruit introduced to Florida in 1846.
This is a sign posted at a local market, Detwiler's that I frequent.
https://postimg.cc/tnsnhM7J
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:25:06 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:43:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:16:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:33:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a
negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family >>>>> food tradition that she never liked.
I can understand that people eat bitter melon for real or perceived
medical reasons, for instance when they have diabetes. But it doesn't
taste better than a bunch of ground-up headache pills.
I eat bitter melon because of the taste, not because it'll make me
healthy. It doesn't matter much if people can't comprehend that. I'd eat >>> it more but it's 5 bucks a pound.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjbABETBU1MAP3ct6
Maybe your Chinese way of cooking it makes something barely edible
taste good.
Perhaps the Chinese are so far advanced in their culinary knowledge/history/tradition as to be incomprehensible to people that are terrified of the world's food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nswPxjHZIA
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 21:15:48 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 20:06:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:25:06 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:43:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:16:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:33:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a >>>>>>>negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family >>>>>>>food tradition that she never liked.
I can understand that people eat bitter melon for real or perceived >>>>>> medical reasons, for instance when they have diabetes. But it doesn't >>>>>> taste better than a bunch of ground-up headache pills.
I eat bitter melon because of the taste, not because it'll make me >>>>>healthy. It doesn't matter much if people can't comprehend that. I'd eat >>>>>it more but it's 5 bucks a pound.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjbABETBU1MAP3ct6
Maybe your Chinese way of cooking it makes something barely edible
taste good.
Perhaps the Chinese are so far advanced in their culinary >>>knowledge/history/tradition as to be incomprehensible to people that are >>>terrified of the world's food.
Of the world's unnecessary food additives, you mean. Of the crap that
gave you diabetes. You should have had the occasional glass of wine
instead, you scared wimp.
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking. They don't add any
unnecessary food additives. Most home cooks don't add unnecessary food >additives. You're thinking about modern food processing which has a lot
of additives. The additives added are preservatives and stabilizers. The >reality is that additives are not added without reason. You seem
clueless about this. I'd like to see you make food that is able to be >consumed after sitting on the shelf for a year or two.
People like you usually think that others should be drinking booze like >themselves. My guess is that your liver is totally shot. My liver, OTOH,
is in tip-top shape. You lose?
Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/7/2025 9:10 PM, Carol wrote:
Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/4/2025 7:07 PM, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:59:30 +0000, Ed P wrote:
My wife had some baking recipes that called for margarine.
They go back many years but supposedly, the texture of the
finished product was better with it. There were cookie
type things, not a cake.
That's entirely possible. The modern spreads might be another
matter since they're an emulsion of water and oil - more akin
to mayonnaise. I have seen recipes that use mayo instead of
eggs and oil. That might work pretty good although it might
be a little more expensive.
I've seen lots. One is the now classic 'Shake-n-bake' that uses
ridiculous amounts of mayo, like 1/2 cup or more. You just
waste 90% of it to the trash. I just put a TB mayo on a plate
then smear it on the meat (usually chicken) then dip in
seasoned bread crumbs (or crushed corn flakes etc.).
That's odd. I don't recall Shake N' Bake calling for mayonnaise.
Then again, I don't recall ever buying Shake N' Bake. So I
looked it up:
https://www.directionsforme.org/product/56390
The directions say to moisten the chicken pieces with water and
put it in the shaker bag with 1 packet of the seasoning mix and
shake until the chicken is coated. No mention of mayo (or
dipping/dredging). I surmise you're referring to an oddball
copycat recipe since the whole point of Shake N' Bake was to
shake the chicken in a bag with the seasoning mix, no muss, no
fuss.
Jill
I have one that says water too. This one had mayo. Maybe it was a
store brand?
I have no idea what you're recalling. It doesn't make much sense
that a store brand Shake N' Bake would say you should coat the meat
in mayo first, which undoubtedly is more expensive than water and the
seasoning packet. Store brands generally strive to be less expensive
than the name brand.
Jill
Either way Jill, I'm not lying.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 22:38:39 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 21:15:48 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 20:06:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 17:25:06 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:43:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:16:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:33:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Anna, a former member of the group, spoke about bitter melon in a >>>>>>>>negative way. Her parents were Chinese and it was a part of the family >>>>>>>>food tradition that she never liked.
I can understand that people eat bitter melon for real or perceived >>>>>>> medical reasons, for instance when they have diabetes. But it doesn't >>>>>>> taste better than a bunch of ground-up headache pills.
I eat bitter melon because of the taste, not because it'll make me >>>>>>healthy. It doesn't matter much if people can't comprehend that. I'd eat >>>>>>it more but it's 5 bucks a pound.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjbABETBU1MAP3ct6
Maybe your Chinese way of cooking it makes something barely edible
taste good.
Perhaps the Chinese are so far advanced in their culinary >>>>knowledge/history/tradition as to be incomprehensible to people that are >>>>terrified of the world's food.
Of the world's unnecessary food additives, you mean. Of the crap that
gave you diabetes. You should have had the occasional glass of wine
instead, you scared wimp.
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking. They don't add any >>unnecessary food additives. Most home cooks don't add unnecessary food >>additives. You're thinking about modern food processing which has a lot
of additives. The additives added are preservatives and stabilizers. The >>reality is that additives are not added without reason. You seem
clueless about this. I'd like to see you make food that is able to be >>consumed after sitting on the shelf for a year or two.
Why on earth would I do that?
People like you usually think that others should be drinking booze like >>themselves. My guess is that your liver is totally shot. My liver, OTOH,
is in tip-top shape. You lose?
You're guessing indeed, because you have no idea.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:30:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 22:38:39 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking. They don't add any >>>unnecessary food additives. Most home cooks don't add unnecessary food >>>additives. You're thinking about modern food processing which has a lot >>>of additives. The additives added are preservatives and stabilizers. The >>>reality is that additives are not added without reason. You seem
clueless about this. I'd like to see you make food that is able to be >>>consumed after sitting on the shelf for a year or two.
Why on earth would I do that?
People like you usually think that others should be drinking booze like >>>themselves. My guess is that your liver is totally shot. My liver, OTOH, >>>is in tip-top shape. You lose?
You're guessing indeed, because you have no idea.
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol.
Normal people don't care what other people do.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:30:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 22:38:39 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking. They don't add any >>>>unnecessary food additives. Most home cooks don't add unnecessary food >>>>additives. You're thinking about modern food processing which has a lot >>>>of additives. The additives added are preservatives and stabilizers. The >>>>reality is that additives are not added without reason. You seem >>>>clueless about this. I'd like to see you make food that is able to be >>>>consumed after sitting on the shelf for a year or two.
Why on earth would I do that?
People like you usually think that others should be drinking booze like >>>>themselves. My guess is that your liver is totally shot. My liver, OTOH, >>>>is in tip-top shape. You lose?
You're guessing indeed, because you have no idea.
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol. >>Normal people don't care what other people do.
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but
it's not a universal truth.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 0:44:19 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol. >>>Normal people don't care what other people do.
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but
it's not a universal truth.
My opinion is that it's nobody's business if I drink booze or not.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 01:05:53 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 0:44:19 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol.
Normal people don't care what other people do.
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but
it's not a universal truth.
My opinion is that it's nobody's business if I drink booze or not.
Then why do you always tell us that you don't? I guess one of your
parents or one of your wife's parents drank themselves to death. That
would explain your childish hangup.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 0:44:19 +0000, Bruce wrote:
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but
it's not a universal truth.
My opinion is that it's nobody's business if I drink booze or not.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 01:05:53 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 0:44:19 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol. >>>>Normal people don't care what other people do.
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but
it's not a universal truth.
My opinion is that it's nobody's business if I drink booze or not.
Then why do you always tell us that you don't? I guess one of your
parents or one of your wife's parents drank themselves to death. That
would explain your childish hangup.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 1:33:18 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 01:05:53 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 0:44:19 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol. >>>>>Normal people don't care what other people do.
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but >>>> it's not a universal truth.
My opinion is that it's nobody's business if I drink booze or not.
Then why do you always tell us that you don't? I guess one of your
parents or one of your wife's parents drank themselves to death. That
would explain your childish hangup.
You're the one that brought it up - fool.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 1:33:18 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 01:05:53 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 0:44:19 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol. >>>>>Normal people don't care what other people do.
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but >>>> it's not a universal truth.
My opinion is that it's nobody's business if I drink booze or not.
Then why do you always tell us that you don't? I guess one of your
parents or one of your wife's parents drank themselves to death. That
would explain your childish hangup.
You're the one that brought it up - fool.
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 01:05:53 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 0:44:19 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol. >>>Normal people don't care what other people do.
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but
it's not a universal truth.
My opinion is that it's nobody's business if I drink booze or not.
Then why do you always tell us that you don't?
On 2025-03-08 10:14 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 3/8/2025 10:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I like to use olive oil and have found the best way to spread itI don't really see the need for a brush.
evenly is to drizzle it into the pan and brush it around in an area
large enough for the bread.
It saves me from burning my fingers ;-)
Jill McQuown wrote:...
...I have no idea what you're recalling. It doesn't make much sense
that a store brand Shake N' Bake would say you should coat the meat
in mayo first, which undoubtedly is more expensive than water and the
seasoning packet. Store brands generally strive to be less expensive
than the name brand.
Either way Jill, I'm not lying. I often try new things then later
replicate them from scratch. The internet has oodles of examples where
mayo is used as a binding agent. Top of the list on one article was
egg. Next were mayo, milk, buttermilk, olive oil and some other
oddball things like BBQ and Tonkasu sauce. Mentioned was mustard!
They listed several mustard types and I plan to try them.
I have a head of cauliflour that I plan to experiment with. Binding
agent match would be a mild brown honey mustard I think for the trial.
I'll season the crumbs just with salt and pepper.
The rest of the cauliflour is set aside for a cream of mushroom and cauliflour soup with thin chopped green onions as a garnish.
about the only thing i really miss is browned cheeses
and potatoes. i like those with some color. Mom doesn't
like anything even slightly burned so we do have to adjust
toaster settings. if she burns the toast i'll probably
eat it just fine, etc.
In article
<fd5da6c39453455213021a786492441f@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says..
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
You clearly don't know a thing about Australia.
Janet UK
In article <vqir54$dglt$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 01:05:53 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 0:44:19 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Normal people don't encourage other people to start drinking alcohol.
Normal people don't care what other people do.
You seem to think that there are two options. Either you don't drink
any alcohol or you're an alcoholic. That may apply to your family, but
it's not a universal truth.
My opinion is that it's nobody's business if I drink booze or not.
Then why do you always tell us that you don't?
Same reason he denies being racist/ obsessed with race
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:21:10 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article
<fd5da6c39453455213021a786492441f@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says..
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
You clearly don't know a thing about Australia.
Janet UK
Indeed, that's true. I don't know shit about what they're eating down in >ozzyland but I don't make idiotic statements about Australian food
either.
I also don't brag about not being a booze hound. It's a subject that
doesn't interest me. You got everything backwards. It's B that always
brings my non-drinking up. Yoose is obviously drunk.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:21:10 +0000, Janet wrote:Australian food
In article
<fd5da6c39453455213021a786492441f@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says..
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
You clearly don't know a thing about Australia.
Janet UK
Indeed, that's true. I don't know shit about what they're eating down in ozzyland but I don't make idiotic statements about
either.
I also don't brag about not being a booze hound. It's a subject that
doesn't interest me. You got everything backwards. It's B that always
brings my non-drinking up. Yoose is obviously drunk.
You make idiotic statements about anything
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:21:10 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article
<fd5da6c39453455213021a786492441f@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says..
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
You clearly don't know a thing about Australia.
Janet UK
Indeed, that's true. I don't know shit about what they're eating down in ozzyland but I don't make idiotic statements about Australian food
either.
I also don't brag about not being a booze hound. It's a subject that
doesn't interest me. You got everything backwards. It's B that always
brings my non-drinking up. Yoose is obviously drunk.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:21:10 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article
<fd5da6c39453455213021a786492441f@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says..
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
You clearly don't know a thing about Australia.
Janet UK
Indeed, that's true. I don't know shit about what they're eating down in
ozzyland but I don't make idiotic statements about Australian food
either.
I also don't brag about not being a booze hound. It's a subject that
doesn't interest me. You got everything backwards. It's B that always
brings my non-drinking up. Yoose is obviously drunk.
This is the truth! Victory goes to David. It has been decided!
I hold David in the same HIGH esteem as I do President TRUMP...!!!
😎
--
GM
--
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 21:18:24 +0000, Janet wrote:
You make idiotic statements about anything
Once again, I call your bluff. What did I say now - you racist pig?
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 22:44:26 +0000, D wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:21:10 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article
<fd5da6c39453455213021a786492441f@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says..
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
You clearly don't know a thing about Australia.
Janet UK
Indeed, that's true. I don't know shit about what they're eating down in >>> ozzyland but I don't make idiotic statements about Australian food
either.
I also don't brag about not being a booze hound. It's a subject that
doesn't interest me. You got everything backwards. It's B that always
brings my non-drinking up. Yoose is obviously drunk.
This is the truth! Victory goes to David. It has been decided!
I hold David in the same HIGH esteem as I do President TRUMP...!!!
gm wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 22:44:26 +0000, D wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:21:10 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article
<fd5da6c39453455213021a786492441f@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says..
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
You clearly don't know a thing about Australia.
Janet UK
Indeed, that's true. I don't know shit about what they're eating down in >>>> ozzyland but I don't make idiotic statements about Australian food
either.
I also don't brag about not being a booze hound. It's a subject that
doesn't interest me. You got everything backwards. It's B that always
brings my non-drinking up. Yoose is obviously drunk.
This is the truth! Victory goes to David. It has been decided!
I hold David in the same HIGH esteem as I do President TRUMP...!!!
Can you see trump's gall bladder from where your head is stuck?
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. Kretchmar
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese,
Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP (tetanus,
diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 22:50:45 +0000, gm wrote:
I hold David in the same HIGH esteem as I do President TRUMP...!!!
😎
-
GM
-
You do realize that all your social security data is now in the hands of
the Soviets and/or Chinese, right? This includes your SS number and bank account numbers. We're pretty much screwed. I can't say if the dollar is going to mean anything in the future. We might as well all move to
Canada or Mexico. I hope they don't mind Americans and Gringos moving
in.
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. Kretchmar
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese,
Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP (tetanus,
diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 22:44:26 +0000, D wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:21:10 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article
<fd5da6c39453455213021a786492441f@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says..
You don't know a thing about Chinese cooking.
You clearly don't know a thing about Australia.
Janet UK
Indeed, that's true. I don't know shit about what they're eating down in >>> ozzyland but I don't make idiotic statements about Australian food
either.
I also don't brag about not being a booze hound. It's a subject that
doesn't interest me. You got everything backwards. It's B that always
brings my non-drinking up. Yoose is obviously drunk.
This is the truth! Victory goes to David. It has been decided!
I hold David in the same HIGH esteem as I do President TRUMP...!!!
😎
--
GM
--
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:48:44 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. Kretchmar
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese,
Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP (tetanus,
diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
Dinner tonight was meatloaf and mashed potatoes. The potatoes were
peeled, cut, and cooked, in the rice cooker. The meatloaf was covered
with French fried onions. It was all good.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/MP152KPmC2nf5KQ28
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into
grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no grapefruit.
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into >>>> grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no
grapefruit.
propafenone = no grapefruit. i take propafenone to control afib.
Back when I was a kid, I salted my grapefruit rather than putting
sugar on it. Now I just eat it plain. I also used to salt watermelon, apples, and cantaloupe. A little pepper on the cantaloupe, too.
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:48:44 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
Homemade tomato soup with grilled ham and cheese. Kretchmar
cherry wood smoked ham, Cooper sharp white American cheese,
Schwebel's reuben rye bread, margarine and a bit of bacon fat
to griddle in.
After we both get jabs. Pnuemonia (1st) for her, TDAP (tetanus,
diptheria, whooping cough) for me. Docs orders.
Dinner tonight was meatloaf and mashed potatoes. The potatoes were
peeled, cut, and cooked, in the rice cooker. The meatloaf was covered
with French fried onions. It was all good.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/MP152KPmC2nf5KQ28
And here it was meatballs! Not in the swedish tradition though, but with shredded carrots added and some kind of gravy. Very good nonetheless.
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on
some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into >>>> grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no
grapefruit.
propafenone = no grapefruit. i take propafenone to control afib.
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:58:45 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on >>>>> some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into >>>>> grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no
grapefruit.
propafenone = no grapefruit. i take propafenone to control afib.
You are correct about that. OTOH, I know what atrial fibrillation is. I
have no idea what propafenone is. I don't even know how to pronounce it.
And here it was meatballs! Not in the swedish tradition though, but with
shredded carrots added and some kind of gravy. Very good nonetheless.
Some kind of gravy is my favorite gravy, as is any kind of gravy. I used
to put grated carrots in meatloaf. That's a pretty good idea. I'll have
to do that again.
I like to put corn in my meatloaf but there was none last night. What
isn't good is adding oatmeal to your meatloaf. Well, unless you enjoy
gummy meatloaf. I saw that recipe on a box of oatmeal. You wouldn't
normally recommend putting oatmeal in meatloaf - unless you were trying
to sell more oatmeal.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
And here it was meatballs! Not in the swedish tradition though, but with >>> shredded carrots added and some kind of gravy. Very good nonetheless.
Some kind of gravy is my favorite gravy, as is any kind of gravy. I used
to put grated carrots in meatloaf. That's a pretty good idea. I'll have
to do that again.
This is the truth! The wife also has it in her lasagna as well. She
likes
carrots and has them in lots of things. They are alright.
I like to put corn in my meatloaf but there was none last night. What
isn't good is adding oatmeal to your meatloaf. Well, unless you enjoy
gummy meatloaf. I saw that recipe on a box of oatmeal. You wouldn't
normally recommend putting oatmeal in meatloaf - unless you were trying
to sell more oatmeal.
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:07:27 +0000, D wrote:
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an
argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
Breakfast this morning was meatloaf with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Lunch today was meat with gravy. Dinner tonight will be hamburger curry.
This is like culinary heaven.
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 23:29:00 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:07:27 +0000, D wrote:
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an >>> argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
Breakfast this morning was meatloaf with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Lunch today was meat with gravy. Dinner tonight will be hamburger curry.
This is like culinary heaven.
You eat like a white construction worker.
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 23:29:00 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:07:27 +0000, D wrote:
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an >>> argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
Breakfast this morning was meatloaf with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Lunch today was meat with gravy. Dinner tonight will be hamburger curry. >>This is like culinary heaven.
You eat like a white construction worker.
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 0:05:18 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 23:29:00 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:07:27 +0000, D wrote:
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an >>>> argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
Breakfast this morning was meatloaf with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Lunch today was meat with gravy. Dinner tonight will be hamburger curry. >>>This is like culinary heaven.
You eat like a white construction worker.
Dinner tonight was hamburger stew - Japanese style. The sauce was made
from a roux of hamburger fat and flour. It I had some curry powder, I'd
have made curry rice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DbEDvz1tUtSrKurt7
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:07:27 +0000, D wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
And here it was meatballs! Not in the swedish tradition though, but with >>>> shredded carrots added and some kind of gravy. Very good nonetheless.
Some kind of gravy is my favorite gravy, as is any kind of gravy. I used >>> to put grated carrots in meatloaf. That's a pretty good idea. I'll have
to do that again.
This is the truth! The wife also has it in her lasagna as well. She
likes
carrots and has them in lots of things. They are alright.
I like to put corn in my meatloaf but there was none last night. What
isn't good is adding oatmeal to your meatloaf. Well, unless you enjoy
gummy meatloaf. I saw that recipe on a box of oatmeal. You wouldn't
normally recommend putting oatmeal in meatloaf - unless you were trying
to sell more oatmeal.
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an
argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
Breakfast this morning was meatloaf with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Lunch today was meat with gravy. Dinner tonight will be hamburger curry.
This is like culinary heaven.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/66AYdvNLKSxqSQWP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XWHevkwL5U1aJuyg6
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 0:05:18 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 23:29:00 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:07:27 +0000, D wrote:
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an >>>> argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
Breakfast this morning was meatloaf with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Lunch today was meat with gravy. Dinner tonight will be hamburger curry. >>> This is like culinary heaven.
You eat like a white construction worker.
Dinner tonight was hamburger stew - Japanese style. The sauce was made
from a roux of hamburger fat and flour. It I had some curry powder, I'd
have made curry rice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DbEDvz1tUtSrKurt7
and salt just work well for me. the ketchup on mac-n-cheese i got
from my maternal grandfather. my daughter got it from me. the
rest of the family thinks we're both messed up. :)
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on >>>>> some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste
delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into >>>>> grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no
grapefruit.
propafenone = no grapefruit. i take propafenone to control afib.
I heard that you can counter that formula by compensating with Hexolate
(TM). Maybe something to try?
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:07:27 +0000, D wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
And here it was meatballs! Not in the swedish tradition though, but with >>>>> shredded carrots added and some kind of gravy. Very good nonetheless. >>>>Some kind of gravy is my favorite gravy, as is any kind of gravy. I used >>>> to put grated carrots in meatloaf. That's a pretty good idea. I'll have >>>> to do that again.
This is the truth! The wife also has it in her lasagna as well. She
likes
carrots and has them in lots of things. They are alright.
I like to put corn in my meatloaf but there was none last night. What
isn't good is adding oatmeal to your meatloaf. Well, unless you enjoy
gummy meatloaf. I saw that recipe on a box of oatmeal. You wouldn't
normally recommend putting oatmeal in meatloaf - unless you were trying >>>> to sell more oatmeal.
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an >>> argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
Breakfast this morning was meatloaf with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Lunch today was meat with gravy. Dinner tonight will be hamburger curry.
This is like culinary heaven.
Ahhhh.... meat for breakfast, I should persuade the wife to do this.
Sorry... you mean currynary heaven I suppose? ;)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/66AYdvNLKSxqSQWP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XWHevkwL5U1aJuyg6
On 2025-03-10, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of
separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on >>>>>> some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste >>>>>> delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into >>>>>> grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of
grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no >>>> grapefruit.
propafenone = no grapefruit. i take propafenone to control afib.
I heard that you can counter that formula by compensating with Hexolate
(TM). Maybe something to try?
that sounds like it rates right up there with using ivermectin
or drinking drinking bleach to treat covid. i won't even look up
hexolate. not when the www was actually useful and certainly not
now that it has been corrupted by ai slop. thanks, but that'll
be a hard pass for me.
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 9:49:11 +0000, D wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:07:27 +0000, D wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
And here it was meatballs! Not in the swedish tradition though, but >>>>>> withSome kind of gravy is my favorite gravy, as is any kind of gravy. I used >>>>> to put grated carrots in meatloaf. That's a pretty good idea. I'll have >>>>> to do that again.
shredded carrots added and some kind of gravy. Very good nonetheless. >>>>>
This is the truth! The wife also has it in her lasagna as well. She
likes
carrots and has them in lots of things. They are alright.
I like to put corn in my meatloaf but there was none last night. What >>>>> isn't good is adding oatmeal to your meatloaf. Well, unless you enjoy >>>>> gummy meatloaf. I saw that recipe on a box of oatmeal. You wouldn't
normally recommend putting oatmeal in meatloaf - unless you were trying >>>>> to sell more oatmeal.
Hmm, isn't there some kind of oats or barley in haggis? I can see how an >>>> argument could be made for having that in meatloaf!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KqCfvgKu2Lnt2Twy9
Another win David, another win! =D
Breakfast this morning was meatloaf with mashed potatoes and gravy.
Lunch today was meat with gravy. Dinner tonight will be hamburger curry. >>> This is like culinary heaven.
Ahhhh.... meat for breakfast, I should persuade the wife to do this.
Sorry... you mean currynary heaven I suppose? ;)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/66AYdvNLKSxqSQWP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XWHevkwL5U1aJuyg6
Meat is good for breakfast, although we probably eat too much pork for
our first meal. We should be eating more chicken or beef for breakfast.
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-10, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of >>>>>>> separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on >>>>>>> some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste >>>>>>> delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that
grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into >>>>>>> grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of >>>>>>> grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it.
but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no >>>>> grapefruit.
propafenone = no grapefruit. i take propafenone to control afib.
I heard that you can counter that formula by compensating with Hexolate
(TM). Maybe something to try?
that sounds like it rates right up there with using ivermectin
or drinking drinking bleach to treat covid. i won't even look up
hexolate. not when the www was actually useful and certainly not
now that it has been corrupted by ai slop. thanks, but that'll
be a hard pass for me.
That's your problem. It is sad when people deny the ways of science! =( I
had some this morning and I feel great! =D
fos@sdf.org wrote:
...
and salt just work well for me. the ketchup on mac-n-cheese i got
from my maternal grandfather. my daughter got it from me. the
rest of the family thinks we're both messed up. :)
i can't do straight ketchup on mac-n-cheese, but if i use
hot sauce or bbq sauce and mixed with ketchup i can do that
instead, but really when i want mac-n-cheese i'm probably
going for something more mild to begin with so i'll be much
more happy with mushrooms and onions.
If you give me that choice, I'll go with beef. Every time! Chickens are
very cute. It would be sad to eat them. =(
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:41:54 +0000, D wrote:
If you give me that choice, I'll go with beef. Every time! Chickens are
very cute. It would be sad to eat them. =(
They are very cute. Just seeing them makes me happy.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XHGTZ5f9AdYsX1q26
On 2025-03-11, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-10, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:47:20 +0000, fos@sdf.org wrote:
On 2025-03-07, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad used to eat grapefruit. He would go through some ritual of >>>>>>>> separating the segments using a grapefruit knife before sprinkling on >>>>>>>> some sugar. I tried it and found the ritual relaxing and the taste >>>>>>>> delicious. I was getting into the fruit until I found out that >>>>>>>> grapefruit was incompatible with my diabetes medication. My foray into >>>>>>>> grapefruit heaven lasted a couple of months. Even now, I dream of >>>>>>>> grapefruit every now and then.
i used to devour grapefruit like there's no tomorrow, i love it. >>>>>>> but in 2012 due to afib i had to stop. propafenone (rythmol)
medicine prevents me from being able to eat it. it's the only
thing i love to eat that i can't. i guess that's fortunate at
age early 60's so far. :shrug:
That's interesting. I'll store that factoid in my data bank. AFib = no >>>>>> grapefruit.
propafenone = no grapefruit. i take propafenone to control afib.
I heard that you can counter that formula by compensating with Hexolate >>>> (TM). Maybe something to try?
that sounds like it rates right up there with using ivermectin
or drinking drinking bleach to treat covid. i won't even look up
hexolate. not when the www was actually useful and certainly not
now that it has been corrupted by ai slop. thanks, but that'll
be a hard pass for me.
That's your problem. It is sad when people deny the ways of science! =( I
had some this morning and I feel great! =D
i defer my medical decisions to those with medical degrees, my
doctors. however, not blindly. i cross examine them about such
things as medicine interactions. they both said take the
propafenone and don't eat grapefruit so i take the propafenone
and don't eat grapefruit. :)
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:41:54 +0000, D wrote:
If you give me that choice, I'll go with beef. Every time! Chickens are
very cute. It would be sad to eat them. =(
They are very cute. Just seeing them makes me happy.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XHGTZ5f9AdYsX1q26
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:41:54 +0000, D wrote:
If you give me that choice, I'll go with beef. Every time! Chickens are
very cute. It would be sad to eat them. =(
They are very cute. Just seeing them makes me happy.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XHGTZ5f9AdYsX1q26
Wonderful! =D Did you pick them up and pet them? =)
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 21:24:55 +0000, D wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
They are very cute. Just seeing them makes me happy.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XHGTZ5f9AdYsX1q26
Wonderful! =D Did you pick them up and pet them? =)
I have not. I could probably do that but that little project would take
more time than I'd care to spare.
Lunch today was chicken curry. Life is just swell at the moment.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tEmmbR8cFktFFnrV6
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 21:24:55 +0000, D wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:41:54 +0000, D wrote:
If you give me that choice, I'll go with beef. Every time! Chickens are >>>> very cute. It would be sad to eat them. =(
They are very cute. Just seeing them makes me happy.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XHGTZ5f9AdYsX1q26
Wonderful! =D Did you pick them up and pet them? =)
I have not. I could probably do that but that little project would take
more time than I'd care to spare.
Lunch today was chicken curry. Life is just swell at the moment.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tEmmbR8cFktFFnrV6
the only time i don't use ketchup on mac-n-cheese is when it is
made with smoked pulled pork. also, my wife always makes it.
she gives me a ramekin full so i can "taste it before _ruining_
the pile on my plate with ketchup". :)
fos@sdf.org wrote:
...
the only time i don't use ketchup on mac-n-cheese is when it is
made with smoked pulled pork. also, my wife always makes it.
she gives me a ramekin full so i can "taste it before _ruining_
the pile on my plate with ketchup". :)
haha!
i was told i ruined the spaghetti because i put too much
sauce on it. i like things swampy, Mom likes them more
like a desert.
bbq on pizza is really good.
On 2025-03-11, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I heard that you can counter that formula by compensating with Hexolate >>>> (TM). Maybe something to try?
that sounds like it rates right up there with using ivermectin
or drinking drinking bleach to treat covid.
i won't even look up
hexolate. not when the www was actually useful and certainly not
now that it has been corrupted by ai slop. thanks, but that'll
be a hard pass for me.
That's your problem. It is sad when people deny the ways of science! =( I
had some this morning and I feel great! =D
i defer my medical decisions to those with medical degrees, my
doctors. however, not blindly. i cross examine them about such
things as medicine interactions. they both said take the
propafenone and don't eat grapefruit so i take the propafenone
and don't eat grapefruit. :)
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 22:10:17 +0000, D wrote:\
Ahh... good stuff! Here a little but more austere in the form of
oatmeal.
The photo would not be flattering. ;)
I got a 10 lb bag of rolled oats. I better start working on it. It's
going to be serious business getting through all that. My son's wife(?)
was on Maui this week and brought us a package of Uncle Louie's
Portuguese Sausage. It was some pretty good sausage although the
breakfast was kind of boring. I need to make some fun and exciting >breakfasts.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S9JAjEJ1YQ6qzCF5A
Ahh... good stuff! Here a little but more austere in the form of
oatmeal.
The photo would not be flattering. ;)
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 22:10:17 +0000, D wrote:\
Ahh... good stuff! Here a little but more austere in the form of
oatmeal.
The photo would not be flattering. ;)
I got a 10 lb bag of rolled oats. I better start working on it. It's
going to be serious business getting through all that. My son's wife(?)
was on Maui this week and brought us a package of Uncle Louie's
Portuguese Sausage. It was some pretty good sausage although the
breakfast was kind of boring. I need to make some fun and exciting breakfasts.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S9JAjEJ1YQ6qzCF5A
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 22:10:17 +0000, D wrote:\
Ahh... good stuff! Here a little but more austere in the form of
oatmeal.
The photo would not be flattering. ;)
I got a 10 lb bag of rolled oats. I better start working on it.
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 22:10:17 +0000, D wrote:\
Ahh... good stuff! Here a little but more austere in the form of
oatmeal.
The photo would not be flattering. ;)
I got a 10 lb bag of rolled oats. I better start working on it. It's
going to be serious business getting through all that. My son's wife(?)
So many things! Cobbler, oatmeal for the entire family, oat cookies!
Those
three should get you started nicely! =)
was on Maui this week and brought us a package of Uncle Louie's
Portuguese Sausage. It was some pretty good sausage although the
breakfast was kind of boring. I need to make some fun and exciting
breakfasts.
Oatmeal for the win!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S9JAjEJ1YQ6qzCF5A
Looks alright... but sausage is difficult to judge based on only how it looks.
Yesterday we went to a _really_ good mexican restaurant! It's not quite
US
standard but probably as close as I have ever gotten in europe.
We paid 67 USD for 8 tacos (4 with squis, 2 with pork and chorizo and 2
with beef) and the wife had a non-alcohol margarita which to me tasted
more like some kind of icecream than a drink.
They also had a Habanero+mango chili sauce, but it had too much mango,
it
was too sweet for me. They also had a milder chili sauce that tasted
more
tomato based which was excellent!
The wife touched neither. She doesn't like the burn of chili. All in
all,
excellent restaurant, will go again! =)
it
was too sweet for me. They also had a milder chili sauce that tasted
more
tomato based which was excellent!
The wife touched neither. She doesn't like the burn of chili. All in
all,
excellent restaurant, will go again! =)
You're a guy that likes to live it up. That's a good thing.
We went to dinner with the kids and their friends. I had some curry rice
and takoyaki. Takoyaki is octopus balls. Who knew that octopuses had
balls?
Later on, we were visited by the pigs. Awesome!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8gUq16duUnzffhcT7
fos@sdf.org wrote:
...
the only time i don't use ketchup on mac-n-cheese is when it is
made with smoked pulled pork. also, my wife always makes it.
she gives me a ramekin full so i can "taste it before _ruining_
the pile on my plate with ketchup". :)
haha!
i was told i ruined the spaghetti because i put too much
sauce on it. i like things swampy, Mom likes them more
like a desert.
On 3/12/2025 7:51 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i defer my medical decisions to those with medical degrees, my
doctors. however, not blindly. i cross examine them about such
things as medicine interactions. they both said take the
propafenone and don't eat grapefruit so i take the propafenone
and don't eat grapefruit. :)
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough
not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
You're a guy that likes to live it up. That's a good thing.
We went to dinner with the kids and their friends. I had some curry rice
and takoyaki. Takoyaki is octopus balls. Who knew that octopuses had
balls?
Later on, we were visited by the pigs. Awesome!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8gUq16duUnzffhcT7
On 2025-03-15, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
fos@sdf.org wrote:
...
the only time i don't use ketchup on mac-n-cheese is when it is
made with smoked pulled pork. also, my wife always makes it.
she gives me a ramekin full so i can "taste it before _ruining_
the pile on my plate with ketchup". :)
haha!
i was told i ruined the spaghetti because i put too much
sauce on it. i like things swampy, Mom likes them more
like a desert.
never thought of it as swampy, lol, but i like things quite saucy
also. there's always enough sauce left after a pasta bowl full
of spaghetti to sop up with a few slices of bread. since there's
already enough simple carbs in the pasta i can really do without
in the first place, i don't do that anymore, i finish it with a
spoon. :)
On 2025-03-16, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 3/12/2025 7:51 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i defer my medical decisions to those with medical degrees, my
doctors. however, not blindly. i cross examine them about such
things as medicine interactions. they both said take the
propafenone and don't eat grapefruit so i take the propafenone
and don't eat grapefruit. :)
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough
not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control
cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit
juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
grapefruit is my favorite citrus fruit.
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-03-15, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
fos@sdf.org wrote:
...
the only time i don't use ketchup on mac-n-cheese is when it is
made with smoked pulled pork. also, my wife always makes it.
she gives me a ramekin full so i can "taste it before _ruining_
the pile on my plate with ketchup". :)
haha!
i was told i ruined the spaghetti because i put too much
sauce on it. i like things swampy, Mom likes them more
like a desert.
never thought of it as swampy, lol, but i like things quite saucy
Bruce coined the term. American pizza is a cheese swamp.
On 2025-03-16 3:34 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 22:10:17 +0000, D wrote:\
Ahh... good stuff! Here a little but more austere in the form of
oatmeal.
The photo would not be flattering. ;)
I got a 10 lb bag of rolled oats. I better start working on it.
That's a fair amount of oats. I think most of our oats get used up in porridge, oatmeal cookies and date squares.
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-03-16, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 3/12/2025 7:51 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:
i defer my medical decisions to those with medical degrees, my
doctors. however, not blindly. i cross examine them about such
things as medicine interactions. they both said take the
propafenone and don't eat grapefruit so i take the propafenone
and don't eat grapefruit. :)
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough
not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control
cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit
juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
grapefruit is my favorite citrus fruit.
Really? It's not very versatile. My favorites are (in order),
lemon, lime, orange, then grapefruit. I don't eat anything else
often enough to have an opinion.
Of course, I don't eat lemons or limes out of hand. My dentist
already makes enough money off of me.
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough
not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control
cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit
juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
grapefruit is my favorite citrus fruit.
Really? It's not very versatile. My favorites are (in order),
lemon, lime, orange, then grapefruit. I don't eat anything else
often enough to have an opinion.
Of course, I don't eat lemons or limes out of hand. My dentist
already makes enough money off of me.
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-03-17 3:26 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough >>>>> not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control >>>>> cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit >>>>> juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
grapefruit is my favorite citrus fruit.
Really? It's not very versatile. My favorites are (in order),
lemon, lime, orange, then grapefruit. I don't eat anything else
often enough to have an opinion.
It is so good that it does not need to be versatile. I really regret
having serious digestive issues with grapefruit. My last reaction to it
was so bad that the next day I had to go home sick and I have no eaten
grapefruit since. That was in the mid 1980s. There was once exception
when I tried making grapefruit sherbet. It was delicious but I never had
more than a very small serving. My wife and son loved it. Easy to make.
All you need is a jug of grapefruit juice and some simple syrup. An ice
cream maker is handy but not necessary.
Dave, I believe you are the most fragile person I have ever known who
was not on life support.
Your life must have been hell living with all those frailties and
sicknesses.
I salute you, sir, for your resilience.
On 2025-03-17 3:26 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough
not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control
cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit >>>> juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
grapefruit is my favorite citrus fruit.
Really? It's not very versatile. My favorites are (in order),
lemon, lime, orange, then grapefruit. I don't eat anything else
often enough to have an opinion.
It is so good that it does not need to be versatile. I really regret
having serious digestive issues with grapefruit. My last reaction to it
was so bad that the next day I had to go home sick and I have no eaten grapefruit since. That was in the mid 1980s. There was once exception
when I tried making grapefruit sherbet. It was delicious but I never had
more than a very small serving. My wife and son loved it. Easy to make.
All you need is a jug of grapefruit juice and some simple syrup. An ice
cream maker is handy but not necessary.
On 2025-03-17 3:26 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough
not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control
cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit >>>> juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
grapefruit is my favorite citrus fruit.
Really? It's not very versatile. My favorites are (in order),
lemon, lime, orange, then grapefruit. I don't eat anything else
often enough to have an opinion.
It is so good that it does not need to be versatile. I really regret
having serious digestive issues with grapefruit. My last reaction to it
was so bad that the next day I had to go home sick and I have no eaten >grapefruit since.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 18:20:55 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-03-17 3:26 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough >>>>> not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control >>>>> cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit >>>>> juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
grapefruit is my favorite citrus fruit.
Really? It's not very versatile. My favorites are (in order),
lemon, lime, orange, then grapefruit. I don't eat anything else
often enough to have an opinion.
It is so good that it does not need to be versatile. I really regret
having serious digestive issues with grapefruit. My last reaction to it
was so bad that the next day I had to go home sick and I have no eaten
grapefruit since.
You have digestive issues with many things and you LOVE telling us
about it. You and Tweety Bird.
dsi1 wrote:
You're a guy that likes to live it up. That's a good thing.
We went to dinner with the kids and their friends. I had some curry rice
and takoyaki. Takoyaki is octopus balls. Who knew that octopuses had
balls?
Later on, we were visited by the pigs. Awesome!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8gUq16duUnzffhcT7
The astronauts that Biden left stranded in space are thanking Mr. Elon
Musk and President Trump today for bringing them back home to Earth...
They are leaving the space station earlier than expected...
;-D
--
GM
--
Hank Rogers wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-03-17 3:26 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
I looked but couldn't find anything about Hexolate. It's easy enough >>>>>> not to eat grapefruit. I take a low dose of a statin drug to control >>>>>> cholesterol. The warning says don't eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit >>>>>> juice. So I don't. Grapefruit is not a necessity.
grapefruit is my favorite citrus fruit.
Really? It's not very versatile. My favorites are (in order),
lemon, lime, orange, then grapefruit. I don't eat anything else
often enough to have an opinion.
It is so good that it does not need to be versatile. I really regret
having serious digestive issues with grapefruit. My last reaction to it
was so bad that the next day I had to go home sick and I have no eaten
grapefruit since. That was in the mid 1980s. There was once exception
when I tried making grapefruit sherbet. It was delicious but I never had >>> more than a very small serving. My wife and son loved it. Easy to make. >>> All you need is a jug of grapefruit juice and some simple syrup. An ice
cream maker is handy but not necessary.
Dave, I believe you are the most fragile person I have ever known who
was not on life support.
Your life must have been hell living with all those frailties and
sicknesses.
I salute you, sir, for your resilience.
Hope he don't have another "cardiac event", lol...!!!
He just may croak from the "stress"...
--
GM
--
On 2025-03-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-03-15, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
fos@sdf.org wrote:
...
the only time i don't use ketchup on mac-n-cheese is when it is
made with smoked pulled pork. also, my wife always makes it.
she gives me a ramekin full so i can "taste it before _ruining_
the pile on my plate with ketchup". :)
haha!
i was told i ruined the spaghetti because i put too much
sauce on it. i like things swampy, Mom likes them more
like a desert.
never thought of it as swampy, lol, but i like things quite saucy
Bruce coined the term. American pizza is a cheese swamp.
also. there's always enough sauce left after a pasta bowl full
of spaghetti to sop up with a few slices of bread. since there's
already enough simple carbs in the pasta i can really do without
in the first place, i don't do that anymore, i finish it with a
spoon. :)
I prefer just enough sauce to coat the pasta.
In fact, after last Saturday's veal Parmesan, I decided that next
time he wants veal Parm, I'll just make a little browned butter
and put it on my veal. I couldn't taste a damned thing through
the red sauce and cheese. It could have been veal, pork, turkey,
or Wonder Bread.
i'm not much of a fan of meat smothered with cheese recipes. i
prefer hamburgers over cheeseburgers even. nor do i like many
things with white sauces. i like parmesan cheese as a topping.
pecorino or pecorino romano even more. anything made with
alfredo sauce, no thanks, blueh. :shrug:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 18:35:40 +0000, gm wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
You're a guy that likes to live it up. That's a good thing.
We went to dinner with the kids and their friends. I had some curry rice >>> and takoyaki. Takoyaki is octopus balls. Who knew that octopuses had
balls?
Later on, we were visited by the pigs. Awesome!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8gUq16duUnzffhcT7
The astronauts that Biden left stranded in space are thanking Mr. Elon
Musk and President Trump today for bringing them back home to Earth...
They are leaving the space station earlier than expected...
Musk's spacecrafts have the nasty habit of blowing up. I give those guys 50-50. Poor bastards!
dsi1 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 18:35:40 +0000, gm wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
You're a guy that likes to live it up. That's a good thing.
We went to dinner with the kids and their friends. I had some curry
rice
and takoyaki. Takoyaki is octopus balls. Who knew that octopuses had
balls?
Later on, we were visited by the pigs. Awesome!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8gUq16duUnzffhcT7
The astronauts that Biden left stranded in space are thanking Mr. Elon
Musk and President Trump today for bringing them back home to Earth...
They are leaving the space station earlier than expected...
Musk's spacecrafts have the nasty habit of blowing up. I give those guys
50-50. Poor bastards!
🤣
Stranded astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams safely splash down
in SpaceX capsule after 9 months on ISS
https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/us-news/stranded-astronauts-butch-wilmore-suni-williams-safely-return-to-earth/
"The US astronauts stranded on the International Space Station are home
at last — more than nine months after their days-long jaunt into orbit turned into a headline-grabbing space odyssey...
Butch Wilmore, 62, and 59-year-old Suni Williams splashed down off the
coast of Tallahassee, Fla., just before 6 p.m. EST Tuesday, concluding a 17-hour return journey from the ISS aboard a SpaceX Crew Dragon Freedom capsule...
Their triumphant homecoming came a baffling 278 days behind schedule —
when they first arrived at the ISS in June 2024, they were scheduled to
stay for just about 10 days...
With much relief from the watching world, their escape craft finally parachuted into the balmy Gulf of America waters without a hitch after soaring through the clear daylight skies over Central America en route
to the Florida coast..."
gm wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 18:35:40 +0000, gm wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
You're a guy that likes to live it up. That's a good thing.
We went to dinner with the kids and their friends. I had some curry
rice
and takoyaki. Takoyaki is octopus balls. Who knew that octopuses had >>>>> balls?
Later on, we were visited by the pigs. Awesome!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8gUq16duUnzffhcT7
The astronauts that Biden left stranded in space are thanking Mr. Elon >>>> Musk and President Trump today for bringing them back home to Earth... >>>>
They are leaving the space station earlier than expected...
Musk's spacecrafts have the nasty habit of blowing up. I give those guys >>> 50-50. Poor bastards!
ð¤£
Stranded astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams safely splash down
in SpaceX capsule after 9 months on ISS
https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/us-news/stranded-astronauts-butch-wilmore-suni-williams-safely-return-to-earth/
"The US astronauts stranded on the International Space Station are home
at last â more than nine months after their days-long jaunt into orbit >> turned into a headline-grabbing space odyssey...
Butch Wilmore, 62, and 59-year-old Suni Williams splashed down off the
coast of Tallahassee, Fla., just before 6 p.m. EST Tuesday, concluding a
17-hour return journey from the ISS aboard a SpaceX Crew Dragon Freedom
capsule...
Their triumphant homecoming came a baffling 278 days behind schedule â >> when they first arrived at the ISS in June 2024, they were scheduled to
stay for just about 10 days...
With much relief from the watching world, their escape craft finally
parachuted into the balmy Gulf of America waters without a hitch after
soaring through the clear daylight skies over Central America en route
to the Florida coast..."
Was dictator donald and elon the muskrat there to meet poor suni and
butchie?
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