Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
It was busy day here yesterday and a smidge stressful and
I completely forgot to change my clocks, but did when I
hopped out of bed. One or two things changed automatically
but the other timekeepers had to be set manually.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:24:58 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
That's funny. First you turn the clock 150 years back and then you
turn it one hour forward.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:24:58 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
That's funny. First you turn the clock 150 years back and then you
turn it one hour forward.
It was busy day here yesterday and a smidge stressful and
I completely forgot to change my clocks, but did when I
hopped out of bed. One or two things changed automatically
but the other timekeepers had to be set manually.
You've triggered Dave Smith. He's now going to mention each of his
clocks and whether that particular one had to be changed manually or
not.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:55:08 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:24:58 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netIf I remember correctly the original springing forward with
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
That's funny. First you turn the clock 150 years back and then you
turn it one hour forward.
the clocks was supposed to help farmers get their crops to
the railroad shipping centers. I'm guessing this gave them
more time in the fields and loading, driving, and unloading
their produce. It seems a bit out of whack now as everything
is shipped to the loading docks by 18-wheelers but maybe the
extra daylight does give them more time in the fields.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:55:08 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:24:58 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netIf I remember correctly the original springing forward with
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
That's funny. First you turn the clock 150 years back and then you
turn it one hour forward.
the clocks was supposed to help farmers get their crops to
the railroad shipping centers. I'm guessing this gave them
more time in the fields and loading, driving, and unloading
their produce. It seems a bit out of whack now as everything
is shipped to the loading docks by 18-wheelers but maybe the
extra daylight does give them more time in the fields.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:55:08 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:24:58 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netIf I remember correctly the original springing forward with
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
That's funny. First you turn the clock 150 years back and then you
turn it one hour forward.
the clocks was supposed to help farmers get their crops to
the railroad shipping centers.
On 2025-03-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
If I remember correctly the original springing forward with
the clocks was supposed to help farmers get their crops to
the railroad shipping centers.
No. I thought everybody knew it had to do with WWI.
"It is a common myth in the United States that DST was first implemented
for the benefit of farmers. In reality, farmers have been one of the strongest lobbying groups against DST since it was first implemented.
The factors that influence farming schedules, such as morning dew and
dairy cattle's readiness to be milked, are ultimately dictated by the
sun, so the clock change introduces unnecessary challenges.
On 2025-03-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
No. For the few things that don't adjust themselves, I did it
this morning after I got up. Why should I do it Saturday night?
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 21:38:03 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:It's just something I've always done before heading to the
Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
No. For the few things that don't adjust themselves, I did it
this morning after I got up. Why should I do it Saturday night?
sack. But last night the time change thing completely slipped
my mind.
As far as I can figure, there are the same number of hours
of sunlight whether you are on standard time or daylight saving.
Rather than
On 3/9/2025 5:41 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
If I remember correctly the original springing forward with
the clocks was supposed to help farmers get their crops to
the railroad shipping centers.
No. I thought everybody knew it had to do with WWI.
"It is a common myth in the United States that DST was first implemented for the benefit of farmers. In reality, farmers have been one of the strongest lobbying groups against DST since it was first implemented.
The factors that influence farming schedules, such as morning dew and
dairy cattle's readiness to be milked, are ultimately dictated by the
sun, so the clock change introduces unnecessary challenges.
Most people don't know how to handle DST and waste it. is is termed
"saving" time for a reason. You can save it if you open an account and
put some in instead of using it every day. I did it years ago and have hundreds of hours to use as desired. Great on vacation, I can stay on
the beach until late and just use some of my save hours of daylight to
enjoy it.
In article <vql5rc$uunu$2@dont-email.me>, esp@snet.n
says...
On 3/9/2025 5:41 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-03-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
If I remember correctly the original springing forward with
the clocks was supposed to help farmers get their crops to
the railroad shipping centers.
No. I thought everybody knew it had to do with WWI.
"It is a common myth in the United States that DST was first implemented >>> for the benefit of farmers. In reality, farmers have been one of the
strongest lobbying groups against DST since it was first implemented.
The factors that influence farming schedules, such as morning dew and
dairy cattle's readiness to be milked, are ultimately dictated by the
sun, so the clock change introduces unnecessary challenges.
Most people don't know how to handle DST and waste it. is is termed
"saving" time for a reason. You can save it if you open an account and
put some in instead of using it every day. I did it years ago and have
hundreds of hours to use as desired. Great on vacation, I can stay on
the beach until late and just use some of my save hours of daylight to
enjoy it.
What's the interest rate like?
And, what happens if your saved daylight account is still
in credit when you reach your twilight hours and close
your eyes for the last time.
Will you go gentle into that dark night, or have your
corpse left out on the beach in the sun until your credit
runs out ?
Janet UK
On 2025-03-09 4:17 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:55:08 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:24:58 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netIf I remember correctly the original springing forward with
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
Did everyone remember to run their clocks forward Saturday
night/wee hours of Sunday morning?
That's funny. First you turn the clock 150 years back and then you
turn it one hour forward.
the clocks was supposed to help farmers get their crops to
the railroad shipping centers. I'm guessing this gave them
more time in the fields and loading, driving, and unloading
their produce. It seems a bit out of whack now as everything
is shipped to the loading docks by 18-wheelers but maybe the
extra daylight does give them more time in the fields.
As far as I can figure, there are the same number of hours of sunlight whether you are on standard time or daylight saving. Rather than
changing the clocks and dealing with shift workers having to work an
extra hour or getting a free on and all the other nonsense we could just adjust business hours. My dentist does that. He has summer hours,
starting at 7 am instead of 9, so his staff gets off earlier and can
enjoy some extra sunlight.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 20:56:50 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
As far as I can figure, there are the same number of hours of sunlight
whether you are on standard time or daylight saving. Rather than
changing the clocks and dealing with shift workers having to work an
extra hour or getting a free on and all the other nonsense we could just
adjust business hours. My dentist does that. He has summer hours,
starting at 7 am instead of 9, so his staff gets off earlier and can
enjoy some extra sunlight.
I'm happy that we don't have any of that time shifting business. We're
so close to the equator that it's not needed. We should just shift the
tilt of the earth to make every day in every location on the planet
exactly 12 hours. Yeah, that's the ticket. Well, that's what I'd do if I
was God.
On 2025-03-10 3:28 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 20:56:50 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
As far as I can figure, there are the same number of hours of sunlight
whether you are on standard time or daylight saving. Rather than
changing the clocks and dealing with shift workers having to work an
extra hour or getting a free on and all the other nonsense we could just >>> adjust business hours. My dentist does that. He has summer hours,
starting at 7 am instead of 9, so his staff gets off earlier and can
enjoy some extra sunlight.
I'm happy that we don't have any of that time shifting business. We're
so close to the equator that it's not needed. We should just shift the
tilt of the earth to make every day in every location on the planet
exactly 12 hours. Yeah, that's the ticket. Well, that's what I'd do if I
was God.
Latitude figures a lot into it. During the summer the sun is up longer
and the farther north you are the bigger the difference. In the extreme north the sun doesn't really set at the summer solstice. When we in
Sweden for Midsommer the sun went down but it never got really dark. We
could walk around in the guesthouse without having to turn on lights.
About 15 minutes later the sun was back up.
We were on a lake about 50 miles straight west of Stockholm. You could
extend a line from St.Petersberg, through Stockholm, the Shetland
Islands, a little south of Greenland, the very tip of Labrador, midway
across Hudson Bay and along the northern borders of our prairie
provinces.
On the flips side of the midnight sun in summer is the eternal darkness
of winter. Kids in school may see the son for an hour or two at lunch
time.
When my son was working in Africa he was taken by the shortness of dawn
and dusk. Around here in the summer sundown is a slow process. It gets
less bright, starts to get dim, then darkish, the sun goes down and it darkens more. In Uganda that sun would be on the horizon and then...
poof, it was gone and it was suddenly dark.
Indeed, at the equator, days and nights will always be equal in length. That's due to the earth's tilting relative to the plane of its travel
around the sun. If the earth wasn't tilted, the days would be twelve
hours long no matter what your latitude is. I suppose that near the
poles, it would still be pretty cold.
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 20:58:05 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
Indeed, at the equator, days and nights will always be equal in length. That's due to the earth's tilting relative to the plane of its travel
around the sun. If the earth wasn't tilted, the days would be twelve
hours long no matter what your latitude is. I suppose that near the
poles, it would still be pretty cold.
In the winter when I was working day shifts I would leave for work inOh, end of December. I was fortunate and was able to soften it a bit.
the dark and get home after dark.
,
On 2025-03-10 8:10 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 20:58:05 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
Indeed, at the equator, days and nights will always be equal in length.
That's due to the earth's tilting relative to the plane of its travel
around the sun. If the earth wasn't tilted, the days would be twelve
hours long no matter what your latitude is. I suppose that near the
poles, it would still be pretty cold.
It's kinda interesting to watch the change of seasons and to track the >changes in the length of days and the angle of the sun. My house faces
south so in the winter the sun is to the south and in the summer it is
to the north of the house. During the winter when I am watching TV
upstairs in the late afternoon I have to close the curtain to keep the
sun out of my eyes but in the summer is shining on the other side of the >house.
At this time of the sun comes up a little earlier and sets a little
later so the days get about two and a half minutes longer each day, so
about an hour and a half over the month.
In the winter when I was working day shifts I would leave for work in
the dark and get home after dark.
On 2025-03-10 8:10 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 20:58:05 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
Indeed, at the equator, days and nights will always be equal in length.
That's due to the earth's tilting relative to the plane of its travel
around the sun. If the earth wasn't tilted, the days would be twelve
hours long no matter what your latitude is. I suppose that near the
poles, it would still be pretty cold.
It's kinda interesting to watch the change of seasons and to track the changes in the length of days and the angle of the sun. My house faces
south so in the winter the sun is to the south and in the summer it is
to the north of the house. During the winter when I am watching TV
upstairs in the late afternoon I have to close the curtain to keep the
sun out of my eyes but in the summer is shining on the other side of the house.
At this time of the sun comes up a little earlier and sets a little
later so the days get about two and a half minutes longer each day, so
about an hour and a half over the month.
In the winter when I was working day shifts I would leave for work in
the dark and get home after dark.
,
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 1:37:27 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
In the winter when I was working day shifts I would leave for work in
the dark and get home after dark.
,
At certain times of the year, you can be driving out of one of the
tunnels and be blinded by the sun. It's quite a shocking thing to be
caught unawares of this phenomenon. Your best bet is to slow down and
look at the dots on the road, and try not to hit anything in front of
you. I'm going to have to start documenting when this sun blinding
occurs - date & time.
On 2025-03-11 3:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 1:37:27 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
In the winter when I was working day shifts I would leave for work in
the dark and get home after dark.
,
At certain times of the year, you can be driving out of one of the
tunnels and be blinded by the sun. It's quite a shocking thing to be
caught unawares of this phenomenon. Your best bet is to slow down and
look at the dots on the road, and try not to hit anything in front of
you. I'm going to have to start documenting when this sun blinding
occurs - date & time.
One of the tunnels under the Welland ship canal has a very elaborate
lighting system that reduces the shock of going from bright sunlight to
a dark tunnel and then back into bright sunlight. They have bright
lighting at each end and then reduce it in the middle. It would cost a ridiculous amount of money for power to have all the lights on all the
time so they taper the brightness in a way that your eyes have time to
adapt and then crank it back up so you won't be blinded when you emerge
from it.
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