• Corned Beef Brisket (and a mild rant)

    From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 15:16:42 2025
    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day. This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday. They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb. They don't require a "card" to
    get that price. Unfortunately, they only had one left. I bought it and
    put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few. But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion. Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs. If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets. It says so on the receipt. My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. Let's
    pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price]. I'd have no reason to have their "card". Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends. Is there any logical reason why I
    should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Thu Mar 13 19:34:53 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 19:16:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day. This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the
    year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday. They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb. They don't require a "card" to
    get that price. Unfortunately, they only had one left. I bought it and
    put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few. But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion. Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs. If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets. It says so on the receipt. My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price]. I'd have no reason to have their "card". Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends. Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill


    NO one is forcing *anyone* to use an affinity card - or *not*...

    It's called "the free market"... donchyaknow...

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Thu Mar 13 20:22:37 2025
    On 3/13/2025 7:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.  Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to have their "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends.  Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19?  I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.


    Stores often use 'loss leaders' to get customers in the door. They
    assume said customers will buy enough other stuff, to more than make up
    for any loss on the 'card only, special price' item.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Thu Mar 13 16:37:23 2025
    On 3/13/2025 3:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    I love corned beef brisket.  Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day.  This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday.  They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb.  They don't require a "card" to
    get that price.  Unfortunately, they only had one left.  I bought it and put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few.  But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion.  Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs.  If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets.  It says so on the receipt.  My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.  Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to have their "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends.  Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19?  I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    The simple explanation is "because they can"

    The idea is to build loyalty and people will shop there for the discount.

    Rather than go to Food Lion, I'd wait a day or two and go back to Publix
    to see if they re-stocked. That sale is until next Wednesday.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Thu Mar 13 16:41:37 2025
    On 2025-03-13 4:22 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 7:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.  Let's
    pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't
    have a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty
    cards/apps to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to have their
    "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store
    to buy a corned beef brisket to cook for my friends.  Is there any
    logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone
    with the *card* could by for $19?  I can't think of a single reason
    why they are allowed to price gouge someone simply because they don't
    have a store loyalty card.


    Stores often use 'loss leaders' to get customers in the door. They
    assume said customers will buy enough other stuff, to more than make up
    for any loss on the 'card only, special price' item.

    It probably works for most shoppers. I regularly shop at a number of
    different grocery stores and have a good idea about who tends to have
    the best prices for certain things so the weeks I need to stock up on
    the things that are best priced at a particular store I go to that one.
    I see no benefit in shopping at multiple stores to get the best prices
    at each because I will end up buy in lot more.

    I used to work with a guy who was very frugal. He and his wife checked
    out all the flyers and the newspaper ads to see the best deals and then
    they would to to each of those stores and get just the things that were
    on at special sale prices. They would spend hours and burn a lot of gas
    going to multiple stores to save a few bucks.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Thu Mar 13 16:32:51 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day. This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday. They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb. They don't require a "card" to
    get that price. Unfortunately, they only had one left. I bought it and
    put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few. But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion. Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs. If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets. It says so on the receipt. My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price]. I'd have no reason to have their "card". Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends. Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    Thanks! I love it when your Majesty goes off on a rant!

    It's almost as entertaining as donald trump's frequent rants, but much
    more suave and high class.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Thu Mar 13 21:47:14 2025
    On 2025-03-13, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day.

    Sorry. I can get it all year long.

    This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday. They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb. They don't require a "card" to
    get that price. Unfortunately, they only had one left. I bought it and
    put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few. But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion. Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs. If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets. It says so on the receipt. My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price]. I'd have no reason to have their "card". Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends. Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    It's a free country. They can set prices pretty much any way they
    please.

    If you want controlled prices, you're pretty close to Cuba.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Thu Mar 13 17:51:37 2025
    On 3/13/2025 4:22 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 7:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.  Let's
    pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't
    have a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty
    cards/apps to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to have their
    "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store
    to buy a corned beef brisket to cook for my friends.  Is there any
    logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone
    with the *card* could by for $19?  I can't think of a single reason
    why they are allowed to price gouge someone simply because they don't
    have a store loyalty card.


    Stores often use 'loss leaders' to get customers in the door. They
    assume said customers will buy enough other stuff, to more than make up
    for any loss on the 'card only, special price' item.

    I understand about loss leaders. What I don't understand is how a store
    that doesn't require a loyalty card can charge the exact same *special
    price* as the store that requires the card to get the same price. It
    strikes me as extremely shady business, which is why I generally do not
    shop at grocery stores which require "cards" to get the fake sale price.

    Jill

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Thu Mar 13 21:52:47 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 19:16:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I love corned beef brisket.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday. They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb. They don't require a "card" to
    get that price. Unfortunately, they only had one left. I bought it and
    put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few. But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion. Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs. If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets. It says so on the receipt. My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.
    Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a
    corned beef someone with the *card* could buy for $19?

    Jill


    I do have a Kroger card and have shopped on occasion during
    the week but did not use my card as it messes up my fuel
    points. When I get to the register, I ask the cashier if
    they have a card that can be used to ring up my purchase
    to get the 'sale' price. They've never failed to produce
    one.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Mar 13 18:23:01 2025
    On 3/13/2025 4:37 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 3:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty"
    cards. I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday.  They
    advertised corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb.  They don't require
    a "card" to get that price.  Unfortunately, they only had one left.  I
    bought it and put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few.  But Food Lion requires
    what they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion.  Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs.  If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have
    cost me $23 more for the two briskets.  It says so on the receipt.  My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.  Let's
    pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't
    have a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty
    cards/apps to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to have their
    "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store
    to buy a corned beef brisket to cook for my friends.  Is there any
    logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone
    with the *card* could by for $19?  I can't think of a single reason
    why they are allowed to price gouge someone simply because they don't
    have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    The simple explanation is "because they can"

    Strikes me as unethical.

    The idea is to build loyalty and people will shop there for the discount.

    Yeah, I get the idea. They jack up prices to fool people into thinking
    they're getting a discount. Imagine what you'd pay for a can of [e.g.]
    green beans "on sale" if you didn't have the MVP card! Twice what a can
    of green beans should actually cost. Arrgh!

    Rather than go to Food Lion, I'd wait a day or two and go back to Publix
    to see if they re-stocked.  That sale is until next Wednesday.

    Normally I would do that, Ed. Thing is, when I went to Publix after
    work the day before, the manager seemed surprised they'd run out and
    wasn't sure if they'd be getting any more. I'm off work tomorrow and I
    try to do my shopping when I'm already in town. So I made the decision
    to stop at Food Lion on my way to the office. I didn't know for sure
    they still had any but it was on my way. Fortunately, they did have but
    only a few left. It still bugs me I had to use the "loyalty card" to
    get the same price they'd have charged at Publix without using a card.
    I object to those loyalty cards as a matter of general principle.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Thu Mar 13 22:43:38 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-03-13, Dave Smith wrote:

    I used to work with a guy who [...] checked out all the
    flyers and the newspaper ads to see the best deals and then
    [...] burn a lot of gas going to multiple stores to save a few bucks.

    You can get an app for that. Just go to a different store every
    [...] week or so. Probably you need to dedicate some shelf space.


    But Jill IIRC said she doesn't have a cellphone...

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Thu Mar 13 18:09:51 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 4:37 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 3:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty"
    cards. I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday.  They
    advertised corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb.  They don't
    require a "card" to get that price.  Unfortunately, they only had
    one left.  I bought it and put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few.  But Food Lion requires
    what they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion.  Both
    slightly over 3.5 lbs.  If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it
    would have cost me $23 more for the two briskets.  It says so on the
    receipt.  My question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.
    Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that
    doesn't have a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require
    loyalty cards/apps to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to
    have their "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this
    grocery store to buy a corned beef brisket to cook for my friends.
    Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned
    beef someone with the *card* could by for $19?  I can't think of a
    single reason why they are allowed to price gouge someone simply
    because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    The simple explanation is "because they can"

    Strikes me as unethical.

    The idea is to build loyalty and people will shop there for the discount.

    Yeah, I get the idea. They jack up prices to fool people into thinking they're getting a discount. Imagine what you'd pay for a can of [e.g.]
    green beans "on sale" if you didn't have the MVP card! Twice what a can
    of green beans should actually cost. Arrgh!

    Rather than go to Food Lion, I'd wait a day or two and go back to
    Publix to see if they re-stocked.  That sale is until next Wednesday.

    Normally I would do that, Ed. Thing is, when I went to Publix after
    work the day before, the manager seemed surprised they'd run out and
    wasn't sure if they'd be getting any more. I'm off work tomorrow and I
    try to do my shopping when I'm already in town. So I made the decision
    to stop at Food Lion on my way to the office. I didn't know for sure
    they still had any but it was on my way. Fortunately, they did have but
    only a few left. It still bugs me I had to use the "loyalty card" to
    get the same price they'd have charged at Publix without using a card. I object to those loyalty cards as a matter of general principle.

    Jill


    Your Majesty should ban that damn nasty food lion store. How dare they
    treat your highness as a common customer!

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Mar 13 22:15:13 2025
    On 2025-03-13, Dave Smith wrote:

    I used to work with a guy who [...] checked out all the
    flyers and the newspaper ads to see the best deals and then
    [...] burn a lot of gas going to multiple stores to save a few bucks.

    You can get an app for that. Just go to a different store every
    [...] week or so. Probably you need to dedicate some shelf space.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 18:50:08 2025
    gm wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 4:37 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 3:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty"
    cards. I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday.  They
    advertised corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb.  They don't
    require a "card" to get that price.  Unfortunately, they only had >>>>> one left.  I bought it and put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple >>>>> more and fortunately they still had a few.  But Food Lion requires >>>>> what they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix
    ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion.  Both
    slightly over 3.5 lbs.  If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it >>>>> would have cost me $23 more for the two briskets.  It says so on
    the
    receipt.  My question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.Â
    Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that
    doesn't have a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require
    loyalty cards/apps to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to >>>>> have their "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this >>>>> grocery store to buy a corned beef brisket to cook for my friends. >>>>> Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned >>>>> beef someone with the *card* could by for $19?  I can't think of a >>>>> single reason why they are allowed to price gouge someone simply
    because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    The simple explanation is "because they can"

    Strikes me as unethical.

    The idea is to build loyalty and people will shop there for the
    discount.

    Yeah, I get the idea.  They jack up prices to fool people into thinking >>> they're getting a discount.  Imagine what you'd pay for a can of [e.g.] >>> green beans "on sale" if you didn't have the MVP card!  Twice what a
    can
    of green beans should actually cost.  Arrgh!

    Rather than go to Food Lion, I'd wait a day or two and go back to
    Publix to see if they re-stocked.  That sale is until next
    Wednesday.

    Normally I would do that, Ed.  Thing is, when I went to Publix after
    work the day before, the manager seemed surprised they'd run out and
    wasn't sure if they'd be getting any more.  I'm off work tomorrow and I >>> try to do my shopping when I'm already in town.  So I made the decision >>> to stop at Food Lion on my way to the office.  I didn't know for sure
    they still had any but it was on my way.  Fortunately, they did have
    but
    only a few left.  It still bugs me I had to use the "loyalty card" to
    get the same price they'd have charged at Publix without using a card. I >>> object to those loyalty cards as a matter of general principle.

    Jill


    Your Majesty should ban that damn nasty food lion store. How dare they
    treat your highness as a common customer!


    Yes, REVOKE the HRH ROYAL WARRANT...!!!

    That way, Food Lion cannot emblazon their vittles with the Dataw Royale Seal...!!!

    Then DESTROY those Food Lions and SALT THE EARTH...!!!

    PS:

    "Normally I would do that, Ed..."


    Nah, you can't spare any of your time. You're way too busy licking the donald's anus.

    No way he can get along without you.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Thu Mar 13 23:18:49 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 4:37 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 3:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty"
    cards. I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday.  They
    advertised corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb.  They don't
    require a "card" to get that price.  Unfortunately, they only had
    one left.  I bought it and put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few.  But Food Lion requires
    what they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.). >>>>
    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion.  Both
    slightly over 3.5 lbs.  If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it
    would have cost me $23 more for the two briskets.  It says so on the >>>> receipt.  My question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.Â
    Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that
    doesn't have a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require
    loyalty cards/apps to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to
    have their "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this
    grocery store to buy a corned beef brisket to cook for my friends.Â
    Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned
    beef someone with the *card* could by for $19?  I can't think of a
    single reason why they are allowed to price gouge someone simply
    because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    The simple explanation is "because they can"

    Strikes me as unethical.

    The idea is to build loyalty and people will shop there for the
    discount.

    Yeah, I get the idea.  They jack up prices to fool people into thinking
    they're getting a discount.  Imagine what you'd pay for a can of [e.g.]
    green beans "on sale" if you didn't have the MVP card!  Twice what a can
    of green beans should actually cost.  Arrgh!

    Rather than go to Food Lion, I'd wait a day or two and go back to
    Publix to see if they re-stocked.  That sale is until next Wednesday.

    Normally I would do that, Ed.  Thing is, when I went to Publix after
    work the day before, the manager seemed surprised they'd run out and
    wasn't sure if they'd be getting any more.  I'm off work tomorrow and I
    try to do my shopping when I'm already in town.  So I made the decision
    to stop at Food Lion on my way to the office.  I didn't know for sure
    they still had any but it was on my way.  Fortunately, they did have but
    only a few left.  It still bugs me I had to use the "loyalty card" to
    get the same price they'd have charged at Publix without using a card. I
    object to those loyalty cards as a matter of general principle.

    Jill


    Your Majesty should ban that damn nasty food lion store. How dare they
    treat your highness as a common customer!


    Yes, REVOKE the HRH ROYAL WARRANT...!!!

    That way, Food Lion cannot emblazon their vittles with the Dataw Royale Seal...!!!

    Then DESTROY those Food Lions and SALT THE EARTH...!!!

    PS:

    "Normally I would do that, Ed..."


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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Mar 14 00:02:17 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:50:08 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    gm wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 4:37 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 3:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty"
    cards. I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday.  They >>>>>> advertised corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb.  They don't >>>>>> require a "card" to get that price.  Unfortunately, they only had >>>>>> one left.  I bought it and put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple >>>>>> more and fortunately they still had a few.  But Food Lion requires
    what they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix
    ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion.  Both >>>>>> slightly over 3.5 lbs.  If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it >>>>>> would have cost me $23 more for the two briskets.  It says so on >>>>>> the
    receipt.  My question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. >>>>>> Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that
    doesn't have a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require >>>>>> loyalty cards/apps to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to >>>>>> have their "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this >>>>>> grocery store to buy a corned beef brisket to cook for my friends. >>>>>> Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned >>>>>> beef someone with the *card* could by for $19?  I can't think of a
    single reason why they are allowed to price gouge someone simply
    because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    The simple explanation is "because they can"

    Strikes me as unethical.

    The idea is to build loyalty and people will shop there for the
    discount.

    Yeah, I get the idea.  They jack up prices to fool people into thinking >>>> they're getting a discount.  Imagine what you'd pay for a can of [e.g.] >>>> green beans "on sale" if you didn't have the MVP card!  Twice what a >>>> can
    of green beans should actually cost.  Arrgh!

    Rather than go to Food Lion, I'd wait a day or two and go back to
    Publix to see if they re-stocked.  That sale is until next
    Wednesday.

    Normally I would do that, Ed.  Thing is, when I went to Publix after >>>> work the day before, the manager seemed surprised they'd run out and
    wasn't sure if they'd be getting any more.  I'm off work tomorrow and I >>>> try to do my shopping when I'm already in town.  So I made the decision >>>> to stop at Food Lion on my way to the office.  I didn't know for sure >>>> they still had any but it was on my way.  Fortunately, they did have >>>> but
    only a few left.  It still bugs me I had to use the "loyalty card" to >>>> get the same price they'd have charged at Publix without using a card. I >>>> object to those loyalty cards as a matter of general principle.

    Jill


    Your Majesty should ban that damn nasty food lion store.  How dare they >>> treat your highness as a common customer!


    Yes, REVOKE the HRH ROYAL WARRANT...!!!

    That way, Food Lion cannot emblazon their vittles with the Dataw Royale
    Seal...!!!

    Then DESTROY those Food Lions and SALT THE EARTH...!!!

    PS:

    "Normally I would do that, Ed..."


    Nah, you can't spare any of your time. You're way too busy licking the donald's anus.

    No way he can get along without you.


    Widder Jill wrote the "Normally I would do that, Ed..." line, Sire
    Hank...!!!

    Please to keep yoose mind outta THE GUTTER...!!!

    😍

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Mar 14 03:53:48 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:37:23 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    On 3/13/2025 3:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    I love corned beef brisket.  Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day.  This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the
    year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday.  They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb.  They don't require a "card" to
    get that price.  Unfortunately, they only had one left.  I bought it and >> put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few.  But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion.  Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs.  If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets.  It says so on the receipt.  My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.  Let's
    pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to have their "card".  Let's >> further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends.  Is there any logical reason why I
    should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19?  I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    The simple explanation is "because they can"

    The idea is to build loyalty and people will shop there for the
    discount.

    Rather than go to Food Lion, I'd wait a day or two and go back to Publix
    to see if they re-stocked. That sale is until next Wednesday.

    My guess is that the stores want to track the purchases and buying
    habits of it's customers. It's a beautiful thing.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 09:25:17 2025
    On 2025-03-13, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 4:22 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 7:16 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps.  Let's
    pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't
    have a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty
    cards/apps to get the best price].  I'd have no reason to have their
    "card".  Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store
    to buy a corned beef brisket to cook for my friends.  Is there any
    logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone
    with the *card* could by for $19?  I can't think of a single reason
    why they are allowed to price gouge someone simply because they don't
    have a store loyalty card.


    Stores often use 'loss leaders' to get customers in the door. They
    assume said customers will buy enough other stuff, to more than make up
    for any loss on the 'card only, special price' item.

    I understand about loss leaders. What I don't understand is how a store
    that doesn't require a loyalty card can charge the exact same *special
    price* as the store that requires the card to get the same price.

    Because they can. Because it works for them.

    It
    strikes me as extremely shady business, which is why I generally do not
    shop at grocery stores which require "cards" to get the fake sale price.

    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 10:51:22 2025
    In article <vqvauq$3mvoq$1@dont-email.me>,
    j_mcquown@comcast.net says...

    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day. This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday. They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb. They don't require a "card" to
    get that price. Unfortunately, they only had one left. I bought it and
    put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few. But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion. Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs. If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets. It says so on the receipt. My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price]. I'd have no reason to have their "card". Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends. Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?



    Janet UK

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  • From flood of sins@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 12:35:34 2025
    On 2025-03-13, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-13, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day.

    Sorry. I can get it all year long.

    Wegmans has it only this time of year, is branded in their name.
    it's consistently less salty than other brands. i'm indifferent
    to it, is what my wife prefers so so be it. i used to grab a
    half dozen this time of year. two for corned beef and cabbage
    throughout the next year, the rest for smoked pastrami.

    this year i decided to get only two Wegmans brand to free up
    freezer space. BJs has corned beef year 'round. i'll get it there
    when i'm making pastrami.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 14 08:53:22 2025
    On 3/13/2025 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    I used to work with a guy who was very frugal.  He and his wife checked
    out all the flyers and the newspaper ads to see the best deals and then
    they would to to each of those stores and get just the things that were
    on at special sale prices. They would spend hours and burn a lot of gas
    going to multiple stores to save a few bucks.

    I consider myself to be fairly frugal. But no, I don't drive all over
    town to try to save a few bucks going from store to store.

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 08:43:39 2025
    On 3/14/2025 8:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    They're already collecting our data. Don't need a special card for that.

    Jill

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  • From flood of sins@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 12:57:11 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    or get a guest pass if you don't have a membership. they wanted
    my name, address, identification, etc, just to go in to wander
    around to see what they head. i turned around and walked out.

    anyone can walk into a BJs. you need a membership card only to
    check out.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

    --
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri Mar 14 12:18:49 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 09:22:21 2025
    On 2025-03-14 8:43 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 8:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    They're already collecting our data.  Don't need a special card for that.


    Sure they have data but if you have a card they know your name, sex,
    age, address and they have a long list of items that you regularly
    purchase. That gives their marketing department or agency all sorts of demographic info to be used to target you and your demographic. I
    suppose that if we were really naive we could convince ourselves that it
    is in order to find better ways to serve us, but it s more likely to
    find ways to trick you into trying some new product.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 09:24:42 2025
    On 2025-03-14 8:53 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    I used to work with a guy who was very frugal.  He and his wife
    checked out all the flyers and the newspaper ads to see the best deals
    and then they would to to each of those stores and get just the things
    that were on at special sale prices. They would spend hours and burn a
    lot of gas going to multiple stores to save a few bucks.

    I consider myself to be fairly frugal.  But no, I don't drive all over
    town to try to save a few bucks going from store to store.

    These guys did. They made their lists to find the deals and would then
    plane their shopping and they menus on the basis of the things they were picking up on sale and then go to each of a number of stores any buy the
    things they are on sale there. I could not live like that.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri Mar 14 10:07:13 2025
    On 3/14/2025 6:51 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <vqvauq$3mvoq$1@dont-email.me>,
    j_mcquown@comcast.net says...

    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day. This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday. They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb. They don't require a "card" to
    get that price. Unfortunately, they only had one left. I bought it and
    put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few. But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion. Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs. If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets. It says so on the receipt. My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. Let's
    pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price]. I'd have no reason to have their "card". Let's
    further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends. Is there any logical reason why I
    should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?



    Janet UK

    Often the opposite. You may get a bonus of some sort for signing up.

    Publix will give you the sale price and no need for a card. OTOH, I use
    their app on my phone to pay. Occasionally, I get a notice, spend $60
    and get a $3 discount.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 09:18:30 2025
    On 2025-03-14 8:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    I am not paranoid about it but I don't care to play their game. It's not
    as if they are going to learn any state secrets from tracking my
    purchases but I hate to see that sort of stuff being normalized. It
    ranks up there with surveillance cameras. Sure, they may be a good idea
    for store security and for fighting crime, but I dislike the idea of
    someone in room full of monitors watching me. If business is slow they
    don't have anyone else to watch. Maybe I should start playing along and pretend to stuff things in my pockets and provoke an interaction as I am leaving because they think they saw my steal something.

    I have come to be suspicious of anyone I see in public wearing a hoodie
    and with a scarf to cover their face. Maybe they are cold and keeping
    warm. Maybe they are doing it for fun to distract security. Maybe they
    are doing it because they are up to no good and don't want their faces
    on camera.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 10:27:52 2025
    On 3/14/2025 8:53 AM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/13/2025 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    I used to work with a guy who was very frugal.  He and his wife
    checked out all the flyers and the newspaper ads to see the best deals
    and then they would to to each of those stores and get just the things
    that were on at special sale prices. They would spend hours and burn a
    lot of gas going to multiple stores to save a few bucks.

    I consider myself to be fairly frugal.  But no, I don't drive all over
    town to try to save a few bucks going from store to store.

    Jill

    I shop three stores, not the same day though.

    Publix It is 1 mile from my house. The BOGO sales are really good.
    The people are very helpful and never much of a wait to check out.
    Parking is good too.

    Detwiler's. I take my granddaughter for laundry about every two weeks
    so while the wash is going, we heat to Detwiler's. They have some
    things the others don't have. They make their own cashew butter, apple sauce,and fantastic cherry turnovers. Good seafood selection.

    BJ's. Every couple of months I head down there. Household products
    like detergent, paper towels. Chicken parts, eggs, butter, things
    easily frozen if bought in quantity. Oh, wine too.

    I do check the ads for the BOGO every week. I've never paid full price
    for some items as they repeat. Haagen Dazs ice cream for instance.
    Sale prices are good and catch my eye at times, but if I want a
    particular item for dinner tonight, I get it.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 15:19:04 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 8:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    They're already collecting our data. Don't need a special card for that.

    Those same people pay in cash. And use duckduckgo.com instead of
    google.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri Mar 14 15:19:16 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 10:51:22 +0000, Janet wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    Janet UK

    No. I've stated in the past that I have Kroger's shoppers
    card and if I download their coupon and shop on Friday I
    get 4x the bonus points toward gasoline. I'm also able to
    take advantage of other deals they send my way for even
    more fuel points and deals at their store.

    By having their card, filling out a weekly shopper
    survey for even more fuel points, is how I was able
    to win those $5,000 in gift cards. I also have
    their credit card which rewards me in cash back.
    Those dollars are redeemed about once a year.

    --

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 14 15:20:22 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14 8:43 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 8:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    They're already collecting our data.  Don't need a special card for that. >>

    Sure they have data but if you have a card they know your name, sex,
    age, address and they have a long list of items that you regularly
    purchase. That gives their marketing department or agency all sorts of demographic info to be used to target you and your demographic.

    They usually target me with "$10 off your next order over $30" coupons.

    I
    suppose that if we were really naive we could convince ourselves that it
    is in order to find better ways to serve us, but it s more likely to
    find ways to trick you into trying some new product.

    As if the printed coupons in the newspaper didn't do exactly that.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 14 15:24:52 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith wrote:

    Sure they have data but if you have a card they
    know your name, sex, age, address and they have
    a long list of items that you regularly purchase.

    CC also has your smiling face on file for the photo-ID.

    They no longer just have a'greeter' look at the photo;
    you are obliged to scan the barcode on the card and a
    video display shows them the full hi-res scan. I guess
    looking at the thumbnail-sized B&W on the card itself
    and then looking at your face was taking too long,
    considering the age &c of the greeters.

    That gives their marketing department or agency all sorts

    Yeah, well we all know how that will end. The first things
    you pass in Costco are usually 'home theatre' screens, so
    pretty soon we should see targeted ads for items recently
    purchased by people who just passed the ingress checkpoint.

    (Like Trump-sized diapers, Musk-sized penis extenders, &c.)

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to flood of sins on Fri Mar 14 15:24:02 2025
    On 2025-03-14, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
    On 2025-03-13, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-13, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day.

    Sorry. I can get it all year long.

    Wegmans has it only this time of year, is branded in their name.
    it's consistently less salty than other brands. i'm indifferent
    to it, is what my wife prefers so so be it. i used to grab a
    half dozen this time of year. two for corned beef and cabbage
    throughout the next year, the rest for smoked pastrami.

    this year i decided to get only two Wegmans brand to free up
    freezer space. BJs has corned beef year 'round. i'll get it there
    when i'm making pastrami.

    There are only a couple of brands that I like. In any event,
    I don't have any use for that much corned beef. Neither of
    us particularly likes it hot and boiled, and both of us prefer
    pastrami for sandwiches. Once in a while I'll buy half a pound
    of pastrami and we'll make sandwiches.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to flood of sins on Fri Mar 14 15:22:06 2025
    On 2025-03-14, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    or get a guest pass if you don't have a membership. they wanted
    my name, address, identification, etc, just to go in to wander
    around to see what they head. i turned around and walked out.

    anyone can walk into a BJs. you need a membership card only to
    check out.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

    Time to buy a desert island. Can you make a battery charger out
    of bamboo and coconuts?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 12:13:42 2025
    On 3/14/2025 11:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 8:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    They're already collecting our data. Don't need a special card for that.

    Those same people pay in cash. And use duckduckgo.com instead of
    google.

    I don't pay in cash. I do use duckduckgo as a browser.

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 12:18:57 2025
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Sat Mar 15 03:18:19 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 12:13:42 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 3/14/2025 11:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 8:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    They're already collecting our data. Don't need a special card for that. >>
    Those same people pay in cash. And use duckduckgo.com instead of
    google.

    I don't pay in cash. I do use duckduckgo as a browser.

    :)

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 12:54:12 2025
    On 2025-03-14 11:20 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    Sure they have data but if you have a card they know your name, sex,
    age, address and they have a long list of items that you regularly
    purchase. That gives their marketing department or agency all sorts of
    demographic info to be used to target you and your demographic.

    They usually target me with "$10 off your next order over $30" coupons.

    I
    suppose that if we were really naive we could convince ourselves that it
    is in order to find better ways to serve us, but it s more likely to
    find ways to trick you into trying some new product.

    As if the printed coupons in the newspaper didn't do exactly that.

    The printed coupons were a shotgun approach. They might have had someone
    in the stores actually taking stock of the customers or they might just
    have depended up stock keeping and sales records. It also costs money
    to print and deliver flyers. Those cards track all that stuff for them automatically and since they are all regular shoppers they are probably
    the best target audience.

    Flyers with coupons are going the way of the dodo bird. I used to get a
    half dozen or more from grocery stores every Wednesday. Now I get a
    Canadian Tire flyer once every week or two. I actually look through that
    one because they often have really good deals. I mentioned recently
    about my son urging me to get one like the one we bought them at
    Christmas. It was only about $150 in December but now it is $300,
    probably even more with all this tariff bullshit. I just can't pay that
    much more for one, especially since it would be a replacement for a
    working air fryer we already have.





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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri Mar 14 16:58:36 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    (Like Trump-sized diapers, Musk-sized penis extenders, &c.)


    *Must* you be so "juvenile", Mike...???

    ;-)

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From flood of sins@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 17:49:43 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    or get a guest pass if you don't have a membership. they wanted
    my name, address, identification, etc, just to go in to wander
    around to see what they head. i turned around and walked out.

    anyone can walk into a BJs. you need a membership card only to
    check out.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

    Time to buy a desert island. Can you make a battery charger out
    of bamboo and coconuts?

    can make a battery that can charge a cellphone out of some copper
    wire, pieces of copper, galvanized steel, and a potato. i have
    no idea if potatoes grow naively on desert islands or if other
    tubers will work, but might be able to source the metals from
    the phone. that would solve two problems. 1) now have
    electricity. 2) phone is destroyed. :)

    --
    SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 18:39:13 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 11:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 8:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    They're already collecting our data. Don't need a special card for that. >>
    Those same people pay in cash. And use duckduckgo.com instead of
    google.

    I don't pay in cash.

    But the people who are paranoid about data collection do.

    I do use duckduckgo as a browser.

    Their browser? That's hard core. I sometimes use duckduckgo.com
    as a search engine. I use Chrome as a browser, because I just
    do not give a crap.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri Mar 14 18:41:44 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith wrote:

    Sure they have data but if you have a card they
    know your name, sex, age, address and they have
    a long list of items that you regularly purchase.

    CC also has your smiling face on file for the photo-ID.

    They no longer just have a'greeter' look at the photo;
    you are obliged to scan the barcode on the card and a
    video display shows them the full hi-res scan. I guess
    looking at the thumbnail-sized B&W on the card itself
    and then looking at your face was taking too long,
    considering the age &c of the greeters.

    That gives their marketing department or agency all sorts

    Yeah, well we all know how that will end. The first things
    you pass in Costco are usually 'home theatre' screens, so
    pretty soon we should see targeted ads for items recently
    purchased by people who just passed the ingress checkpoint.

    (Like Trump-sized diapers, Musk-sized penis extenders, &c.)

    I've read one or two science fiction stories where ads follow
    people all over town. It bugs me that I can't remember what
    they are.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 18:42:29 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    It's their freedom to conduct business as they wish. It's your
    freedom to shop elsewhere. It's other people's freedom to take
    advantage of the savings that loyalty cards afford.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Fri Mar 14 19:44:46 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:31:23 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 3/14/2025 11:58 AM, gm wrote:
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    (Like Trump-sized diapers, Musk-sized penis extenders, &c.)


    *Must* you be so "juvenile", Mike...???

    Trump shits himself. In a lot of photos, you can tell that the First
    Whore finds him repulsive.


    My word, BRYAN, wot a " potty mouth " you have...

    🐸

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Sat Mar 15 06:29:41 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:41:44 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-03-14, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith wrote:

    Sure they have data but if you have a card they
    know your name, sex, age, address and they have
    a long list of items that you regularly purchase.

    CC also has your smiling face on file for the photo-ID.

    They no longer just have a'greeter' look at the photo;
    you are obliged to scan the barcode on the card and a
    video display shows them the full hi-res scan. I guess
    looking at the thumbnail-sized B&W on the card itself
    and then looking at your face was taking too long,
    considering the age &c of the greeters.

    That gives their marketing department or agency all sorts

    Yeah, well we all know how that will end. The first things
    you pass in Costco are usually 'home theatre' screens, so
    pretty soon we should see targeted ads for items recently
    purchased by people who just passed the ingress checkpoint.

    (Like Trump-sized diapers, Musk-sized penis extenders, &c.)

    I've read one or two science fiction stories where ads follow
    people all over town. It bugs me that I can't remember what
    they are.

    I asked our friendly AI acquaintance:

    <quote>
    1. Minority Report (1956) - Philip K. Dick
    2. The Space Merchants (1952) - Frederik Pohl & C.M. Kornbluth)
    3. The Man Who Japed (1956) – Philip K. Dick
    4. Autofac (1955, short story) – Philip K. Dick
    5. The Girl Who Was Plugged In (1973, novella) – James Tiptree Jr.
    6. They Don’t Make Life Like They Used To (1963, short story) –
    Alfred Bester
    7. Patent Pending (1954, short story) – Arthur C. Clarke
    <end quote>

    I've read stuff by 4 of the above authors, but I don't remember
    exactly what.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 20:18:24 2025
    In article <vr16r9$19ih0$1@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
    @invalid.com says...

    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    They're collecting my data every time I pay by card,
    which I'm doing at the same time as swiping my loyalty
    card to get a discount.

    Paying by card gives them my name, bank details, and
    what I buy.
    .
    Loyalty card membership provides them with my name,
    address, what I buy.
    It's not a payment card, just gives discounts.



    Janet UK

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 20:42:53 2025
    In article <slrnvt89t7.1squ4.fos@ma.sdf.org>, fos@sdf.org
    says...

    On 2025-03-14, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    or get a guest pass if you don't have a membership. they wanted
    my name, address, identification, etc, just to go in to wander
    around to see what they head. i turned around and walked out.

    anyone can walk into a BJs. you need a membership card only to
    check out.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

    LOL. Try living in a small rural community.
    No need for surveillance technology.... the jungle
    drums know everything.

    Janet UK

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Mar 14 21:05:06 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 19:29:41 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:41:44 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-03-14, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith wrote:

    Sure they have data but if you have a card they
    know your name, sex, age, address and they have
    a long list of items that you regularly purchase.

    CC also has your smiling face on file for the photo-ID.

    They no longer just have a'greeter' look at the photo;
    you are obliged to scan the barcode on the card and a
    video display shows them the full hi-res scan. I guess
    looking at the thumbnail-sized B&W on the card itself
    and then looking at your face was taking too long,
    considering the age &c of the greeters.

    That gives their marketing department or agency all sorts

    Yeah, well we all know how that will end. The first things
    you pass in Costco are usually 'home theatre' screens, so
    pretty soon we should see targeted ads for items recently
    purchased by people who just passed the ingress checkpoint.

    (Like Trump-sized diapers, Musk-sized penis extenders, &c.)

    I've read one or two science fiction stories where ads follow
    people all over town. It bugs me that I can't remember what
    they are.

    I asked our friendly AI acquaintance:

    <quote>
    1. Minority Report (1956) - Philip K. Dick
    2. The Space Merchants (1952) - Frederik Pohl & C.M. Kornbluth)
    3. The Man Who Japed (1956) – Philip K. Dick
    4. Autofac (1955, short story) – Philip K. Dick
    5. The Girl Who Was Plugged In (1973, novella) – James Tiptree Jr.
    6. They Don’t Make Life Like They Used To (1963, short story) –
    Alfred Bester
    7. Patent Pending (1954, short story) – Arthur C. Clarke
    <end quote>

    I've read stuff by 4 of the above authors, but I don't remember
    exactly what.

    It's already here. I get targeted ads all the time. I'm okay with that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcimRZF8g3Y

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 21:06:16 2025
    On 2025-03-13, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price]. I'd have no reason to have their "card". Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends. Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.


    I'm right there with you. My closest, most convenient grocery store has
    a members program too. The other day, whole chickens were being sold to
    members only for a little over a buck a pound. All others pay full
    price. Digital coupons are made available weekly.
    I don't carry my cellphone in the store, so I'm out of luck. I've
    shopped there since they opened their doors. I should complain.

    leo

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Fri Mar 14 20:29:51 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:27:09 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    If Jill doesn't get the card, she's either rich, or a fool, and we know
    she's not rich.


    Better look in the mirror Buffy before calling anyone
    a fool.

    Go back and read her post again and if need be, follow
    along with your finger.

    Publix does not have a shoppers' card; Food Lion does.
    Jill has a Food Lion shoppers' card, and she used it.

    --

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sat Mar 15 08:26:10 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:17:46 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:18:30 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    I am not paranoid about it but I don't care to play their game. It's not
    as if they are going to learn any state secrets from tracking my
    purchases but I hate to see that sort of stuff being normalized. It
    ranks up there with surveillance cameras. Sure, they may be a good idea
    for store security and for fighting crime, but I dislike the idea of
    someone in room full of monitors watching me. If business is slow they
    don't have anyone else to watch. Maybe I should start playing along and
    pretend to stuff things in my pockets and provoke an interaction as I am
    leaving because they think they saw my steal something.

    I have come to be suspicious of anyone I see in public wearing a hoodie
    and with a scarf to cover their face. Maybe they are cold and keeping
    warm. Maybe they are doing it for fun to distract security. Maybe they
    are doing it because they are up to no good and don't want their faces
    on camera.

    In the future, you can count on never being just another face in the
    crowd. You're not going to be able to hide in plain sight ever again.
    Boomers won't care for that but they'll all be dead soon.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhCgTSE0KTk

    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one:
    MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 14 21:17:46 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:18:30 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 8:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    I am not paranoid about it but I don't care to play their game. It's not
    as if they are going to learn any state secrets from tracking my
    purchases but I hate to see that sort of stuff being normalized. It
    ranks up there with surveillance cameras. Sure, they may be a good idea
    for store security and for fighting crime, but I dislike the idea of
    someone in room full of monitors watching me. If business is slow they
    don't have anyone else to watch. Maybe I should start playing along and pretend to stuff things in my pockets and provoke an interaction as I am leaving because they think they saw my steal something.

    I have come to be suspicious of anyone I see in public wearing a hoodie
    and with a scarf to cover their face. Maybe they are cold and keeping
    warm. Maybe they are doing it for fun to distract security. Maybe they
    are doing it because they are up to no good and don't want their faces
    on camera.

    In the future, you can count on never being just another face in the
    crowd. You're not going to be able to hide in plain sight ever again.
    Boomers won't care for that but they'll all be dead soon.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhCgTSE0KTk

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri Mar 14 21:38:22 2025
    On 3/14/2025 8:42 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <slrnvt89t7.1squ4.fos@ma.sdf.org>, fos@sdf.org
    says...
    On 2025-03-14, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

    LOL. Try living in a small rural community.
    No need for surveillance technology.... the jungle
    drums know everything.


    So true!

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 21:31:19 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 19:16:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I love corned beef brisket. Unfortunately it is only available in
    grocery stores around St. Patrick's Day. This is why I try to buy three
    of them so I can stash a couple in the freezer to cook later in the
    year.

    This is actually a mild rant about those grocery store "loyalty" cards.
    I went to my usual supermarket (Publix) yesterday. They advertised
    corned beef brisket priced at $4.99/lb. They don't require a "card" to
    get that price. Unfortunately, they only had one left. I bought it and
    put it in the freezer.

    This morning on my way to work I stopped at Food Lion to buy a couple
    more and fortunately they still had a few. But Food Lion requires what
    they call an MVP card to get the same price as Publix ($4.99/lb.).

    I paid just over $19 each for two of them at Food Lion. Both slightly
    over 3.5 lbs. If I hadn't used the Food Lion "card", it would have cost
    me $23 more for the two briskets. It says so on the receipt. My
    question is WHY?!

    This is what I don't understand about those loyalty cards/apps. Let's pretend I was visiting friends or family from a place that doesn't have
    a Food Lion [insert other grocery stores that require loyalty cards/apps
    to get the best price]. I'd have no reason to have their "card". Let's further pretend I decided to go to this grocery store to buy a corned
    beef brisket to cook for my friends. Is there any logical reason why I should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    Jill

    These days, corned beef is just plain weird. It's full of holes. This
    could be caused by injecting water and other substances into the meat or
    it could be caused by improper handling i.e., freezing the meat is done
    too fast or too slow. Maybe it's caused by some sort of bovine
    neuromuscular disease or alien cattle mutilation.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to firstname@lastname.oc.ku on Sat Mar 15 08:40:27 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:38:22 +0000, S Viemeister
    <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

    On 3/14/2025 8:42 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <slrnvt89t7.1squ4.fos@ma.sdf.org>, fos@sdf.org
    says...
    On 2025-03-14, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

    LOL. Try living in a small rural community.
    No need for surveillance technology.... the jungle
    drums know everything.


    So true!

    Kangaroos know more about us than the deep state.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Fri Mar 14 17:52:03 2025
    On 3/14/2025 5:38 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 8:42 PM, Janet wrote:
    In article <slrnvt89t7.1squ4.fos@ma.sdf.org>, fos@sdf.org
    says...
    On 2025-03-14, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

       LOL. Try living in a small rural community.
       No need  for surveillance technology.... the jungle
    drums know everything.


    So true!


    On my street. I know the neighbors on either side and a couple of times
    talked to one other.

    The neighbor on my left has been in my house exactly one time. I've
    never been in hers. If I was out and bumped into another person the
    street, I'd not recognize them.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri Mar 14 18:03:41 2025
    On 2025-03-14 4:42 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <slrnvt89t7.1squ4.fos@ma.sdf.org>, fos@sdf.org

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

    LOL. Try living in a small rural community.
    No need for surveillance technology.... the jungle
    drums know everything.

    We have a neighbour down the road, Bernice. If you want information
    spread there are several ways to do it... telephone, telegraph or tell
    Bernice.

    When we first moved here hour patio was in plain view of the road and
    the neighours. I had planted some spruce trees along the edge of the
    lane and wanted a privacy fence beside the patio.The next door
    neighbours were not a problem but the old lady two doors down was a
    snoop. One Saturday morning I went out to the lumber yard and got 3 4x4
    posts some 2x4s and some 1x6 boards. I was finished by about noon. I
    went inside to get a bite to eat and as soon as I stepped into the house
    the phone rang. It was old Olive " Hi Dave. I see that you have put up
    a fence". Yes I had and she had just made my day because I figured my
    work and expenses had paid off. She must have been watching me to cath
    me just as I was going inside.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 17:59:59 2025
    On 3/14/2025 2:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    It's their freedom to conduct business as they wish. It's your
    freedom to shop elsewhere. It's other people's freedom to take
    advantage of the savings that loyalty cards afford.

    Obviously we are not going to agree about this. I don't see how having
    a loyalty card (or phone app) saves me anything since they can obviously
    sell the exact same product for the same "sale" price as other places
    that don't require a card.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 22:00:41 2025
    dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:18:30 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 8:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    I am not paranoid about it but I don't care to play their game. It's not
    as if they are going to learn any state secrets from tracking my
    purchases but I hate to see that sort of stuff being normalized. It
    ranks up there with surveillance cameras. Sure, they may be a good idea
    for store security and for fighting crime, but I dislike the idea of
    someone in room full of monitors watching me. If business is slow they
    don't have anyone else to watch. Maybe I should start playing along and
    pretend to stuff things in my pockets and provoke an interaction as I am
    leaving because they think they saw my steal something.

    I have come to be suspicious of anyone I see in public wearing a hoodie
    and with a scarf to cover their face. Maybe they are cold and keeping
    warm. Maybe they are doing it for fun to distract security. Maybe they
    are doing it because they are up to no good and don't want their faces
    on camera.

    In the future, you can count on never being just another face in the
    crowd. You're not going to be able to hide in plain sight ever again.
    Boomers won't care for that but they'll all be dead soon.



    David, I just listened to President Trump's SPLENDID speech at the US Department of Justice...

    He say that in near future we will have a "digital privacy" act where
    peeples can "opt out" of any Orwellian "surveillance" technology...

    President Trump Delivers Remarks at the Department of Justice

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i41Av4eYO8

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 18:10:11 2025
    On 2025-03-14 5:31 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

    These days, corned beef is just plain weird. It's full of holes. This
    could be caused by injecting water and other substances into the meat or
    it could be caused by improper handling i.e., freezing the meat is done
    too fast or too slow. Maybe it's caused by some sort of bovine
    neuromuscular disease or alien cattle mutilation.

    I am not exactly sure why corned beef just isn't in our repertoire. I
    can't say that I have have fond memories of it as a kid. My mother used
    to so the corned beef, boiled cabbage and crappy old boiled potatoes
    for St.Patrick's Day. I have eaten corned beef a few times but I just do
    that Irish delicacy.



    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri Mar 14 18:06:41 2025
    On 3/14/2025 4:29 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:27:09 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    If Jill doesn't get the card, she's either rich, or a fool, and we know
    she's not rich.


    Better look in the mirror Buffy before calling anyone
    a fool.

    Go back and read her post again and if need be, follow
    along with your finger.

    Don't worry, Joan. We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer. After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked
    high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.

    Publix does not have a shoppers' card; Food Lion does.
    Jill has a Food Lion shoppers' card, and she used it.

    Yes, and Publix sold everyone corned beef brisket for the exact same
    price ($4.99/lb). I used the shoppers card, but I don't agree with the
    idea of charging someone without one $10 more for the same product.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Mar 14 22:45:41 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    It's their freedom to conduct business as they wish. It's your
    freedom to shop elsewhere. It's other people's freedom to take
    advantage of the savings that loyalty cards afford.


    Her Majesty is sharp as a tack! None of this subterfuge from grocery
    stores gets by her highness. She knows damn well they are only
    interested in collecting her valuable royal data.

    I think she should employ a secret agent to make all her royal
    purchases. There would be no trace of her Majesty ... Just some strange
    guy with a mustache wearing a trench coat, buying shit at a dataw
    grocery store!


    That "some strange guy" *could* be JOHN KUTHE, lol...!!!

    He would FINALLY have a "job"... maybe she could "pay" him in "erection aids"...

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 22:33:22 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:

    We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer. After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked
    high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.


    Yet BRYAN has a lovely marriage to a nice gal, a son, hobbies, and he is
    nicely retired...

    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???


    Yes, and Publix sold everyone corned beef brisket for the exact same
    price ($4.99/lb). I used the shoppers card, but I don't agree with the
    idea of charging someone without one $10 more for the same product.


    Yet "someone" can *choose( to pay without the shopper's card - or not -
    why on earth would you care...???

    SHEESH...!!!

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 17:41:42 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 2:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    It's their freedom to conduct business as they wish. It's your
    freedom to shop elsewhere. It's other people's freedom to take
    advantage of the savings that loyalty cards afford.

    Obviously we are not going to agree about this. I don't see how having
    a loyalty card (or phone app) saves me anything since they can obviously
    sell the exact same product for the same "sale" price as other places
    that don't require a card.

    Jill

    Your Majesty should go and attack the offending grocery store, not
    Cindy. She just pointed out how the real world works. You can't accept
    that, so your highness should issue a royal warrant attacking that store.

    I bet they will at least give your Majesty a few coupons, and maybe even
    some free shit for your castle's vast pantry :)

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 17:34:07 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    It's their freedom to conduct business as they wish. It's your
    freedom to shop elsewhere. It's other people's freedom to take
    advantage of the savings that loyalty cards afford.


    Her Majesty is sharp as a tack! None of this subterfuge from grocery
    stores gets by her highness. She knows damn well they are only
    interested in collecting her valuable royal data.

    I think she should employ a secret agent to make all her royal
    purchases. There would be no trace of her Majesty ... Just some strange
    guy with a mustache wearing a trench coat, buying shit at a dataw
    grocery store!

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Fri Mar 14 17:51:10 2025
    BryanGSimmons wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 11:58 AM, gm wrote:
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    (Like Trump-sized diapers, Musk-sized penis extenders, &c.)


    *Must* you be so "juvenile", Mike...???

    Trump shits himself. In a lot of photos, you can tell that the First
    Whore finds him repulsive.

    I noticed that she cringes slightly when he tries to touch her on
    camera. That's very unusual behavior for a paid prostitute. Broad brim
    hats work great for keeping that old cadaver from kissing her too :)

    She's holding out for more money. She knows the old man will be dead
    soon and she wants to be set for life after he's gone.

    Sometimes, I start to feel sorry for her, but then I realize she's just
    as much a grifter as our old chief felon.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sat Mar 15 10:13:00 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:03:41 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 4:42 p.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <slrnvt89t7.1squ4.fos@ma.sdf.org>, fos@sdf.org

    that'd be me. i loathe living in this surveillance capitalism
    society.

    LOL. Try living in a small rural community.
    No need for surveillance technology.... the jungle
    drums know everything.

    We have a neighbour down the road, Bernice. If you want information
    spread there are several ways to do it... telephone, telegraph or tell >Bernice.

    I bet telling Dave Smith works much better.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 18:15:05 2025
    gm wrote:
    dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:18:30 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 8:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    I am not paranoid about it but I don't care to play their game. It's not >>> as if they are going to learn any state secrets from tracking my
    purchases but I hate to see that sort of stuff being normalized. It
    ranks up there with surveillance cameras. Sure, they may be a good idea
    for store security and for fighting crime, but I dislike the idea of
    someone in room full of monitors watching me. If business is slow they
    don't have anyone else to watch. Maybe I should start playing along and >>> pretend to stuff things in my pockets and provoke an interaction as I am >>> leaving because they think they saw my steal something.

    I have come to be suspicious of anyone I see in public wearing a hoodie
    and with a scarf to cover their face. Maybe they are cold and keeping
    warm. Maybe they are doing it for fun to distract security. Maybe they
    are doing it because they are up to no good and don't want their faces
    on camera.

    In the future, you can count on never being just another face in the
    crowd. You're not going to be able to hide in plain sight ever again.
    Boomers won't care for that but they'll all be dead soon.



    David, I just listened to President Trump's SPLENDID speech at the US Department of Justice...

    He say that in near future we will have a "digital privacy" act where
    peeples can "opt out" of any Orwellian "surveillance" technology...


    It's about time the old fucker got rid of elon muskrat!

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Mar 14 18:51:23 2025
    On 3/14/2025 6:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-14 5:31 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

    These days, corned beef is just plain weird. It's full of holes. This
    could be caused by injecting water and other substances into the meat or
    it could be caused by improper handling i.e., freezing the meat is done
    too fast or too slow. Maybe it's caused by some sort of bovine
    neuromuscular disease or alien cattle mutilation.

    I am not exactly sure why corned beef just isn't in our repertoire.  I
    can't say that I have have fond memories of it as a kid. My mother used
    to so the corned beef, boiled cabbage and crappy old boiled potatoes for St.Patrick's Day. I have eaten corned beef a few times but I just do
    that Irish delicacy.

    I guess you either like it or you don't. I don't know what kind of
    corned beef brisket David finds in Hawaii. I do know I've never seen it
    sold in a freezer case. The corning process does not involve injecting
    the meat. It's brined. Maybe they've got crazy cows in Hawaii.


    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7

    That definitely looks weird. I've never seen corned beef brisket with
    holes like that.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 19:16:11 2025
    On 2025-03-14 6:51 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 6:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:


    I guess you either like it or you don't.  I don't know what kind of
    corned beef brisket David finds in Hawaii.  I do know I've never seen it sold in a freezer case.  The corning process does not involve injecting
    the meat.  It's brined.  Maybe they've got crazy cows in Hawaii.


    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7


    I have never seen it frozen. I used to see it sealed in plastic and
    seemed to have a little liquid in it. These days I see in in a barrel of
    brine in the Italian grocery where I go for most of our meat. My friend
    buys it there frequently.

    Perhaps some time I should get a small one and use it for sandwiches. I
    have to get myself into a new mindset because when I was a kid we had a
    lot of canned corned beef sandwiches. I have confess that I liked it at
    at the time. In the early 60s they were marketing freezable packs of
    sliced corned beef. I could not go back to the canned stuff.

    That definitely looks weird.  I've never seen corned beef brisket with
    holes like that.

    Jill

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri Mar 14 18:22:22 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 4:29 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:27:09 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    If Jill doesn't get the card, she's either rich, or a fool, and we know
    she's not rich.


    Better look in the mirror Buffy before calling anyone
    a fool.

    Go back and read her post again and if need be, follow
    along with your finger.

    Don't worry, Joan. We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer. After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked
    high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.

    Publix does not have a shoppers' card; Food Lion does.
    Jill has a Food Lion shoppers' card, and she used it.

    Yes, and Publix sold everyone corned beef brisket for the exact same
    price ($4.99/lb). I used the shoppers card, but I don't agree with the
    idea of charging someone without one $10 more for the same product.

    Jill

    Uhh, your Majesty, sorry they shit on your highness, but do you really
    think any people reading your posts here can do anything about it?

    What do you want? Maybe a group gather and burn the store down?

    What is your majesty's goal?

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Mar 14 21:17:25 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    It's their freedom to conduct business as they wish. It's your
    freedom to shop elsewhere. It's other people's freedom to take
    advantage of the savings that loyalty cards afford.

    except in some cases you find other places selling similar
    items for a lower price and they don't have any loyalty
    gimmicks.

    we do shop at one club store place and they often have
    reasonably good prices on some things and not so good
    prices on other things. we go someplace else and usually
    know which items are better to get at the other places.

    we rarely even go to any places that do the loyalty
    stuff because we find that their prices are usually more
    expensive.


    songbird

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 15 03:25:22 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On my street. I know the neighbors on either side and a couple of times talked to one other.

    The neighbor on my left has been in my house exactly one time. I've
    never been in hers. If I was out and bumped into another person the
    street, I'd not recognize them.


    Eduardo lives to the north (twenty years), and Luis lives to the south
    (ten years). I have been in both homes once in forty-five years, but not
    when either of them lived there.
    A nice lady, east of the fence, visited when her tree caught on fire and
    I called 911. I forget her name.
    I do have a friend, that I graduated from the eighth grade with, that
    lives four houses up and three houses over. I see him a few times a
    year.
    I'm a gregarious guy.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 04:04:08 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:33:22 +0000, gm wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:

    We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer. After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked
    high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.


    Yet BRYAN has a lovely marriage to a nice gal, a son, hobbies, and he is nicely retired...


    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies? Frying food is a hobby? Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.


    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM


    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of? His greasy food and gray steaks?

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 15 03:32:19 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    Perhaps some time I should get a small one and use it for sandwiches. I
    have to get myself into a new mindset because when I was a kid we had a
    lot of canned corned beef sandwiches. I have confess that I liked it at
    at the time. In the early 60s they were marketing freezable packs of
    sliced corned beef. I could not go back to the canned stuff.


    Doesn't need salt.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Mar 15 04:18:13 2025
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:33:22 +0000, gm wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:

    We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer. After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked
    high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.


    Yet BRYAN has a lovely marriage to a nice gal, a son, hobbies, and he is
    nicely retired...


    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies? Frying food is a hobby? Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.


    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM


    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of? His greasy food and gray steaks?


    Maybe she went to the store where he worked and was asked for her card to
    get a discount?

    That would sure as hell trigger har Majesty.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Mar 15 05:20:27 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:51:23 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 3/14/2025 6:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-14 5:31 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

    These days, corned beef is just plain weird. It's full of holes. This
    could be caused by injecting water and other substances into the meat or >>> it could be caused by improper handling i.e., freezing the meat is done
    too fast or too slow. Maybe it's caused by some sort of bovine
    neuromuscular disease or alien cattle mutilation.

    I am not exactly sure why corned beef just isn't in our repertoire.  I
    can't say that I have have fond memories of it as a kid. My mother used
    to so the corned beef, boiled cabbage and crappy old boiled potatoes for
    St.Patrick's Day. I have eaten corned beef a few times but I just do
    that Irish delicacy.

    I guess you either like it or you don't. I don't know what kind of
    corned beef brisket David finds in Hawaii. I do know I've never seen it
    sold in a freezer case. The corning process does not involve injecting
    the meat. It's brined. Maybe they've got crazy cows in Hawaii.


    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7

    That definitely looks weird. I've never seen corned beef brisket with
    holes like that.

    Jill


    They're there. You just never noticed it.

    https://www.supergoldenbakes.com/air-fryer-corned-beef/

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 06:33:07 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:00:41 +0000, gm wrote:

    dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:18:30 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 8:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    I am not paranoid about it but I don't care to play their game. It's not >>> as if they are going to learn any state secrets from tracking my
    purchases but I hate to see that sort of stuff being normalized. It
    ranks up there with surveillance cameras. Sure, they may be a good idea
    for store security and for fighting crime, but I dislike the idea of
    someone in room full of monitors watching me. If business is slow they
    don't have anyone else to watch. Maybe I should start playing along and >>> pretend to stuff things in my pockets and provoke an interaction as I am >>> leaving because they think they saw my steal something.

    I have come to be suspicious of anyone I see in public wearing a hoodie
    and with a scarf to cover their face. Maybe they are cold and keeping
    warm. Maybe they are doing it for fun to distract security. Maybe they
    are doing it because they are up to no good and don't want their faces
    on camera.

    In the future, you can count on never being just another face in the
    crowd. You're not going to be able to hide in plain sight ever again.
    Boomers won't care for that but they'll all be dead soon.



    David, I just listened to President Trump's SPLENDID speech at the US Department of Justice...

    He say that in near future we will have a "digital privacy" act where
    peeples can "opt out" of any Orwellian "surveillance" technology...

    President Trump Delivers Remarks at the Department of Justice

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i41Av4eYO8

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

    Yoose might be the most gullible person in the entire United States.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sat Mar 15 18:01:12 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 06:33:07 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:00:41 +0000, gm wrote:

    David, I just listened to President Trump's SPLENDID speech at the US
    Department of Justice...

    He say that in near future we will have a "digital privacy" act where
    peeples can "opt out" of any Orwellian "surveillance" technology...

    President Trump Delivers Remarks at the Department of Justice

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i41Av4eYO8

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    Yoose might be the most gullible person in the entire United States.

    Greg Sorrow can't be as stupid as he comes across. He's just trolling.

    --
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    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 07:17:08 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 6:33:07 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:00:41 +0000, gm wrote:

    dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:18:30 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 8:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    Do you have to pay for store loyalty cards there?

    No, except at warehouse clubs like Costco, where you must be a
    member to enter the store.

    Apart from the principle of the thing, a lot of people don't
    like loyalty cards because they're afraid someone will collect
    their data.

    I am not paranoid about it but I don't care to play their game. It's not >>>> as if they are going to learn any state secrets from tracking my
    purchases but I hate to see that sort of stuff being normalized. It
    ranks up there with surveillance cameras. Sure, they may be a good idea >>>> for store security and for fighting crime, but I dislike the idea of
    someone in room full of monitors watching me. If business is slow they >>>> don't have anyone else to watch. Maybe I should start playing along and >>>> pretend to stuff things in my pockets and provoke an interaction as I am >>>> leaving because they think they saw my steal something.

    I have come to be suspicious of anyone I see in public wearing a hoodie >>>> and with a scarf to cover their face. Maybe they are cold and keeping
    warm. Maybe they are doing it for fun to distract security. Maybe they >>>> are doing it because they are up to no good and don't want their faces >>>> on camera.

    In the future, you can count on never being just another face in the
    crowd. You're not going to be able to hide in plain sight ever again.
    Boomers won't care for that but they'll all be dead soon.



    David, I just listened to President Trump's SPLENDID speech at the US
    Department of Justice...

    He say that in near future we will have a "digital privacy" act where
    peeples can "opt out" of any Orwellian "surveillance" technology...

    President Trump Delivers Remarks at the Department of Justice

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i41Av4eYO8

    ;-D

    -
    GM

    -

    Yoose might be the most gullible person in the entire United States.


    Naw, the fact that THE DONALD was elected "President - for - life" has
    made me a VERY HAPPY HOMO, Sire Hank...

    His election is part of "God's Plan" for us...

    For us to have PARADISE on EARTH...!!!

    😎

    --
    GM

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Mar 15 04:35:28 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:03:41 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    We have a neighbour down the road, Bernice. If you want information
    spread there are several ways to do it... telephone, telegraph or tell
    Bernice.

    I bet telling Dave Smith works much better.


    Have you seen his press pass?

    https://postimg.cc/mhdW2FRL

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 15 04:32:49 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    When we first moved here hour patio was in plain view



    You have an hour patio?

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Mar 15 09:20:08 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 2:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    It's their freedom to conduct business as they wish. It's your
    freedom to shop elsewhere. It's other people's freedom to take
    advantage of the savings that loyalty cards afford.

    Obviously we are not going to agree about this. I don't see how having
    a loyalty card (or phone app) saves me anything since they can obviously
    sell the exact same product for the same "sale" price as other places
    that don't require a card.

    Didn't this start with the non-loyalty-card place not having enough
    of the product you wanted? (I've kind of lost track.) If that's
    the case, then you saved even more: 100%. I'd rather use the card
    and get what I want at a good price.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Mar 15 09:30:44 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 6:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-14 5:31 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

    These days, corned beef is just plain weird. It's full of holes. This
    could be caused by injecting water and other substances into the meat or >>> it could be caused by improper handling i.e., freezing the meat is done
    too fast or too slow. Maybe it's caused by some sort of bovine
    neuromuscular disease or alien cattle mutilation.

    I am not exactly sure why corned beef just isn't in our repertoire.  I
    can't say that I have have fond memories of it as a kid. My mother used
    to so the corned beef, boiled cabbage and crappy old boiled potatoes for
    St.Patrick's Day. I have eaten corned beef a few times but I just do
    that Irish delicacy.

    I guess you either like it or you don't. I don't know what kind of
    corned beef brisket David finds in Hawaii. I do know I've never seen it
    sold in a freezer case. The corning process does not involve injecting
    the meat. It's brined.

    I imagine a lot of food arrives frozen in Hawaii. Those holes
    aren't from injection; they're too random.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7

    That definitely looks weird. I've never seen corned beef brisket with
    holes like that.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Butchery/comments/1fspq7a/whats_up_with_the_holes_in_my_corned_beef/

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Mar 15 09:41:01 2025
    On 2025-03-15, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    Don't you understand freedom? The store is free to conduct its
    business in (almost) whatever way it wishes. The law requires them
    to apply the same terms to everybody -- regardless of race, color,
    or creed. "Not liking affinity cards" is not a protected class.

    This has nothing to do with freedom. It's about greed.

    It's their freedom to conduct business as they wish. It's your
    freedom to shop elsewhere. It's other people's freedom to take
    advantage of the savings that loyalty cards afford.

    except in some cases you find other places selling similar
    items for a lower price and they don't have any loyalty
    gimmicks.

    we do shop at one club store place and they often have
    reasonably good prices on some things and not so good
    prices on other things. we go someplace else and usually
    know which items are better to get at the other places.

    we rarely even go to any places that do the loyalty
    stuff because we find that their prices are usually more
    expensive.

    Meijer. IIRC you don't have one near you. I shop there because
    the one near me has the best produce. The fact that they have
    low prices is just a bonus. I use their loyalty program (sparingly)
    and they occasionally send me coupons for stuff like $10 off a $30
    purchase. Their online coupons are mostly for stuff I don't buy,
    so I don't even bother checking.

    There's stuff I can't find there, so I shop Whole Foods, Plum Market,
    or Busch's. Sometimes I'll pick something up at Kroger if I'm already
    there picking up a prescription for my husband. I hate shopping at
    Costco and -- except for beef (which we eat fairly rarely) -- they
    never have anything I want.

    I don't look for stuff on sale. If something I already want/need
    is on sale and isn't perishable, I might buy an extra.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 10:32:57 2025
    In article <vr26tl$23tjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...


    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one:
    MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

    What "privacy"? he's on Facebook, fgs.

    Even on usenet he's already identified his age, state,
    town, local employer, daughter, two babymamas and even his
    vehicles; and posted his own picture. Those provide
    enough info for anyone in the world to trace his address ,
    and much more.

    (Right down to political affiliation. Oh dear).



    Janet UK .

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Janet on Sat Mar 15 22:05:23 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:32:57 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    In article <vr26tl$23tjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one:
    MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

    What "privacy"? he's on Facebook, fgs.

    Haha, I just saw that. That doesn't make any sense.

    Even on usenet he's already identified his age, state,
    town, local employer, daughter, two babymamas and even his
    vehicles; and posted his own picture. Those provide
    enough info for anyone in the world to trace his address ,
    and much more.

    (Right down to political affiliation. Oh dear).

    But he pays cash so they don't know anything about him! :)

    --
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    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 12:11:45 2025
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025, gm wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:31:23 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 3/14/2025 11:58 AM, gm wrote:
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    (Like Trump-sized diapers, Musk-sized penis extenders, &c.)


    *Must* you be so "juvenile", Mike...???

    Trump shits himself. In a lot of photos, you can tell that the First
    Whore finds him repulsive.


    My word, BRYAN, wot a " potty mouth " you have...

    🐸

    Yeah! Do you kiss your mother with that mouth bryan? Shame on you! You
    just made Jesus cry. =(

    --
    GM

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Mar 15 12:06:04 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    should have to pay $30 for a corned beef someone with the *card* could
    by for $19? I can't think of a single reason why they are allowed to
    price gouge someone simply because they don't have a store loyalty card.

    It's a free country. They can set prices pretty much any way they
    please.

    If you want controlled prices, you're pretty close to Cuba.


    This is the truth! I've heard a lot of democrats are currently moving to Cuba. They will very much at home there. =D

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Mar 15 12:15:55 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2025-03-14, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On my street. I know the neighbors on either side and a couple of times
    talked to one other.

    The neighbor on my left has been in my house exactly one time. I've
    never been in hers. If I was out and bumped into another person the
    street, I'd not recognize them.


    Eduardo lives to the north (twenty years), and Luis lives to the south
    (ten years). I have been in both homes once in forty-five years, but not
    when either of them lived there.
    A nice lady, east of the fence, visited when her tree caught on fire and
    I called 911. I forget her name.
    I do have a friend, that I graduated from the eighth grade with, that
    lives four houses up and three houses over. I see him a few times a
    year.
    I'm a gregarious guy.


    Seems like you're all set! Who needs more social interaction than that?
    =)

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Janet on Sat Mar 15 12:02:39 2025
    Janet wrote:
    In article <vr26tl$23tjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...


    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one:
    MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

    What "privacy"? he's on Facebook, fgs.

    Even on usenet he's already identified his age, state,
    town, local employer, daughter, two babymamas and even his
    vehicles; and posted his own picture. Those provide
    enough info for anyone in the world to trace his address ,
    and much more.

    (Right down to political affiliation. Oh dear).



    Janet UK .


    https://postimg.cc/ZBbt8nQj

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 16:10:34 2025
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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Mar 15 13:32:46 2025
    On 3/15/2025 12:04 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:33:22 +0000, gm wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:

    We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer.  After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked
    high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.


    Yet BRYAN has a lovely marriage to a nice gal, a son, hobbies, and he is
    nicely retired...


    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies?  Frying food is a hobby?  Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.

    A lovely marriage? More like he's married to a church mouse who puts up
    with him. We're talking about a guy who went on honeymoon with his pal
    Kuthe and tried to seduce John's wife after Kuthe passed out drunk.
    Yeah, he's a hell of a guy. BTW, all of those posts are still available
    on the Google archives when all he ever did was rant about Kuthe in some childish feud that dated back to their 20's. Well hey, it's almost 50
    years later and if Kuthe was still online they'd still be at it.

    IIRC Bryan bought a house (next door?) for his son and expected him to
    live in it. His son moved to Mexico instead. There have been recent
    mentions of his son living in Peru. Any guesses why? I surmise it was
    to get away from his asshole father. The stellar father who had to do
    major repairs and sell the house after renters and then squatters
    trashed the place. Yeah, they're such a close knit, happy family. Heh.

    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM


    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of?  His greasy food and gray steaks?

    GM is Bryan's cheerleader. Don't ask me why. But hey, we should all
    aspire to cook bland looking, greasy chicken wings using his fancy high
    oleic oil and don't bother getting a nice char on a steak.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Mar 15 18:00:14 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:32:46 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 3/15/2025 12:04 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:33:22 +0000, gm wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:

    We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer.  After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked
    high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.


    Yet BRYAN has a lovely marriage to a nice gal, a son, hobbies, and he is >>> nicely retired...


    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies?  Frying food is a hobby?  Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.

    A lovely marriage? More like he's married to a church mouse who puts up
    with him. We're talking about a guy who went on honeymoon with his pal
    Kuthe and tried to seduce John's wife after Kuthe passed out drunk.
    Yeah, he's a hell of a guy. BTW, all of those posts are still available
    on the Google archives when all he ever did was rant about Kuthe in some childish feud that dated back to their 20's. Well hey, it's almost 50
    years later and if Kuthe was still online they'd still be at it.

    IIRC Bryan bought a house (next door?) for his son and expected him to
    live in it. His son moved to Mexico instead. There have been recent mentions of his son living in Peru. Any guesses why? I surmise it was
    to get away from his asshole father. The stellar father who had to do
    major repairs and sell the house after renters and then squatters
    trashed the place. Yeah, they're such a close knit, happy family. Heh.

    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM


    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of?  His greasy food and gray steaks?

    GM is Bryan's cheerleader. Don't ask me why. But hey, we should all
    aspire to cook bland looking, greasy chicken wings using his fancy high
    oleic oil and don't bother getting a nice char on a steak.

    Jill


    Hmmmm...

    One "wonders" if Widder Jill's panties were "moist" when she angrily
    hammered out that choleric screed, lol...!!!

    <snicker>

    😋

    --
    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Sun Mar 16 05:04:35 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 13:32:46 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 3/15/2025 12:04 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies?  Frying food is a hobby?  Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.

    A lovely marriage? More like he's married to a church mouse who puts up
    with him. We're talking about a guy who went on honeymoon with his pal
    Kuthe and tried to seduce John's wife after Kuthe passed out drunk.
    Yeah, he's a hell of a guy. BTW, all of those posts are still available
    on the Google archives when all he ever did was rant about Kuthe in some >childish feud that dated back to their 20's. Well hey, it's almost 50
    years later and if Kuthe was still online they'd still be at it.

    IIRC Bryan bought a house (next door?) for his son and expected him to
    live in it. His son moved to Mexico instead. There have been recent >mentions of his son living in Peru. Any guesses why? I surmise it was
    to get away from his asshole father. The stellar father who had to do
    major repairs and sell the house after renters and then squatters
    trashed the place. Yeah, they're such a close knit, happy family. Heh.

    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM

    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of?  His greasy food and gray steaks?

    GM is Bryan's cheerleader. Don't ask me why. But hey, we should all
    aspire to cook bland looking, greasy chicken wings using his fancy high
    oleic oil and don't bother getting a nice char on a steak.

    All true.

    I think what attracts GM in Bryan is that he's a fellow asshole.
    Politically, for instance, they couldn't be further apart but the
    assholiness transcends their differences and brings them together.
    Asshole partners.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Andy Gerald on Sat Mar 15 18:18:45 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:02:39 +0000, Andy Gerald wrote:

    Janet wrote:

    In article <vr26tl$23tjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...


    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one:
    MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

    What "privacy"? he's on Facebook, fgs.

    Even on usenet he's already identified his age, state,
    town, local employer, daughter, two babymamas and even his
    vehicles; and posted his own picture. Those provide
    enough info for anyone in the world to trace his address ,
    and much more.

    (Right down to political affiliation. Oh dear).


    Janet UK .

    https://postimg.cc/ZBbt8nQj


    Yep, that's us! His first visit to Nashville about
    two years ago.

    --

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Mar 15 20:09:45 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 7:01:12 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 06:33:07 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:00:41 +0000, gm wrote:

    David, I just listened to President Trump's SPLENDID speech at the US
    Department of Justice...

    He say that in near future we will have a "digital privacy" act where
    peeples can "opt out" of any Orwellian "surveillance" technology...

    President Trump Delivers Remarks at the Department of Justice

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i41Av4eYO8

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    Yoose might be the most gullible person in the entire United States.

    Greg Sorrow can't be as stupid as he comes across. He's just trolling.

    Stupid is as stupid does.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sun Mar 16 07:23:08 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 20:09:45 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 7:01:12 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 06:33:07 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:00:41 +0000, gm wrote:

    David, I just listened to President Trump's SPLENDID speech at the US
    Department of Justice...

    He say that in near future we will have a "digital privacy" act where
    peeples can "opt out" of any Orwellian "surveillance" technology...

    President Trump Delivers Remarks at the Department of Justice

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i41Av4eYO8

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    Yoose might be the most gullible person in the entire United States.

    Greg Sorrow can't be as stupid as he comes across. He's just trolling.

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    I think 50% of it is just a campy gay act.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 20:49:59 2025
    dsi1 wrote:


    Stupid is as stupid does.


    In the case of "AOC", I most heartily agree, David...!!!

    NY POST:

    Fetterman rips AOC for criticizing Dems backing bill preventing
    government shutdown

    “What about the ones that won’t have any paycheck? She’ll have her paycheck, though.”

    https://nypost.com/2025/03/15/us-news/fetterman-rips-aoc-for-criticizing-dems-backing-billl-to-avoid-government-shutdown/

    "Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) fired back at “Squad” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over her criticism of Senate Democrats like him who are
    backing the GOP spending bill that will avoid a government shutdown...

    Fetterman — who has increasingly broken with Democratic ranks to side
    with President Trump on key issues — said Ocasio-Cortez and other lefty lawmakers calling for the Senate to block a bill that would fund the
    government through Sept. 30, don’t have a viable option to prevent a
    shutdown either...

    “I hope you can relay how little I care about her views on this,”
    Fetterman told The Hill Friday when asked about Ocasio-Cortez’s claim
    that Senate Dems who vote to advance the bill are betraying their House colleagues who voted against it...

    “I’m going to stand on what I happen to believe is the right thing to do but ask her, ‘What’s the exit plan once we shut the government down?’ What about all the millions of Americans who are going to have their
    lives damaged?” he said...

    "“What about the ones that won’t have any paycheck? She’ll have her paycheck, though...”

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 15 20:59:50 2025
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith wrote:

    as I stepped into the house the phone rang. It was old Olive "
    Hi Dave. I see that you have put up a fence". Yes I had

    Surely there was more conversation. If you just said "Yes"
    and let it hang, would she not at least try some sort of
    glib excuse to explain why it was her business, like:

    "I'm thinking of doing a fence myself, how much was the wood?",

    "I have some old paint to get rid of, what color do you like?", &c .

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Mar 15 17:41:27 2025
    On 3/15/2025 2:18 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:02:39 +0000, Andy Gerald wrote:

    Janet wrote:

    In article <vr26tl$23tjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...


    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one:
    MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

       What "privacy"?  he's on Facebook, fgs.

    Even on usenet he's already identified his age, state,
    town, local employer, daughter, two babymamas and even his
    vehicles; and posted his own picture.  Those provide
    enough info for anyone in the world to trace his address ,
    and much more.

      (Right down to political affiliation. Oh dear).


      Janet UK   .

    https://postimg.cc/ZBbt8nQj


    Yep, that's us!  His first visit to Nashville about
    two years ago.

    He forgot to take a look at your collection of butter! ;)

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Sun Mar 16 08:45:10 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:41:27 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 3/15/2025 2:18 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:02:39 +0000, Andy Gerald wrote:

    Janet wrote:

    In article <vr26tl$23tjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one: >>>>> MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

       What "privacy"?  he's on Facebook, fgs.

    Even on usenet he's already identified his age, state,
    town, local employer, daughter, two babymamas and even his
    vehicles; and posted his own picture.  Those provide
    enough info for anyone in the world to trace his address ,
    and much more.

      (Right down to political affiliation. Oh dear).

      Janet UK   .

    https://postimg.cc/ZBbt8nQj


    Yep, that's us!  His first visit to Nashville about
    two years ago.

    He forgot to take a look at your collection of butter! ;)

    What? That's like going to Egypt and not having a look at the
    pyramids!

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat Mar 15 17:51:45 2025
    On 2025-03-15 4:59 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith wrote:

    as I stepped into the house the phone rang. It was old Olive "
    Hi Dave. I see that you have put up a fence". Yes I had

    Surely there was more conversation. If you just said "Yes"
    and let it hang, would she not at least try some sort of
    glib excuse to explain why it was her business, like:

    "I'm thinking of doing a fence myself, how much was the wood?",

    "I have some old paint to get rid of, what color do you like?", &c .


    That was more than 45 years ago and as far as I remember I acknowledged
    that yes I had put up a privacy fence and I was about to have a shower
    and a bite to eat. I wasn't really in the mood to talk. I had put up
    to obscure out patio from prying eyes and the coincidence of her calling
    just as I was going into the house that she must have been spying on me.

    A number of years later she complained about my septic tank draining
    into her back yard. Impossible. Her yard is close to 200 yards from my
    septic bed and uphill. It turned out that her late husband had installed
    the septic bed farmer style. He had a tank and pipes from it to a pile
    of gravel that had been dumped in by the slope and covered with dirt.
    She got away with that for years but then when she had to moved out of
    the house they had to install a new septic bed.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Mar 15 16:56:33 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/15/2025 12:04 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:33:22 +0000, gm wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:

    We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer.  After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked
    high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.


    Yet BRYAN has a lovely marriage to a nice gal, a son, hobbies, and he is >>> nicely retired...


    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies?  Frying food is a hobby?  Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.

    A lovely marriage? More like he's married to a church mouse who puts up
    with him. We're talking about a guy who went on honeymoon with his pal
    Kuthe and tried to seduce John's wife after Kuthe passed out drunk.
    Yeah, he's a hell of a guy. BTW, all of those posts are still available
    on the Google archives when all he ever did was rant about Kuthe in some childish feud that dated back to their 20's. Well hey, it's almost 50
    years later and if Kuthe was still online they'd still be at it.

    IIRC Bryan bought a house (next door?) for his son and expected him to
    live in it. His son moved to Mexico instead. There have been recent mentions of his son living in Peru. Any guesses why? I surmise it was
    to get away from his asshole father. The stellar father who had to do
    major repairs and sell the house after renters and then squatters
    trashed the place. Yeah, they're such a close knit, happy family. Heh.

    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM


    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of?  His greasy food and gray steaks?

    GM is Bryan's cheerleader. Don't ask me why. But hey, we should all
    aspire to cook bland looking, greasy chicken wings using his fancy high
    oleic oil and don't bother getting a nice char on a steak.

    Jill

    Damn, GM sure triggered your Highness.

    Get the royal doctor to prescribe some tranquilizers from publix.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Mar 15 16:58:38 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 13:32:46 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 3/15/2025 12:04 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies?  Frying food is a hobby?  Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.

    A lovely marriage? More like he's married to a church mouse who puts up
    with him. We're talking about a guy who went on honeymoon with his pal
    Kuthe and tried to seduce John's wife after Kuthe passed out drunk.
    Yeah, he's a hell of a guy. BTW, all of those posts are still available
    on the Google archives when all he ever did was rant about Kuthe in some
    childish feud that dated back to their 20's. Well hey, it's almost 50
    years later and if Kuthe was still online they'd still be at it.

    IIRC Bryan bought a house (next door?) for his son and expected him to
    live in it. His son moved to Mexico instead. There have been recent
    mentions of his son living in Peru. Any guesses why? I surmise it was
    to get away from his asshole father. The stellar father who had to do
    major repairs and sell the house after renters and then squatters
    trashed the place. Yeah, they're such a close knit, happy family. Heh.

    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM

    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of?  His greasy food and gray steaks?

    GM is Bryan's cheerleader. Don't ask me why. But hey, we should all
    aspire to cook bland looking, greasy chicken wings using his fancy high
    oleic oil and don't bother getting a nice char on a steak.

    All true.

    I think what attracts GM in Bryan is that he's a fellow asshole.
    Politically, for instance, they couldn't be further apart but the
    assholiness transcends their differences and brings them together.
    Asshole partners.


    Yep, and TWO assholes for you to sniff, Master.

    Carry on.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat Mar 15 17:06:49 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith wrote:

    as I stepped into the house the phone rang. It was old Olive "
    Hi Dave. I see that you have put up a fence". Yes I had

    Surely there was more conversation. If you just said "Yes"
    and let it hang, would she not at least try some sort of
    glib excuse to explain why it was her business, like:

    "I'm thinking of doing a fence myself, how much was the wood?",

    "I have some old paint to get rid of, what color do you like?", &c .


    Don't try to analyze officer Dave's stories. It's a waste of time.
    The guy just likes to type on his keyboard.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Mar 15 22:07:40 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 13:32:46 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 3/15/2025 12:04 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies?  Frying food is a hobby?  Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.

    A lovely marriage? More like he's married to a church mouse who puts up >>> with him. We're talking about a guy who went on honeymoon with his pal
    Kuthe and tried to seduce John's wife after Kuthe passed out drunk.
    Yeah, he's a hell of a guy. BTW, all of those posts are still available >>> on the Google archives when all he ever did was rant about Kuthe in some >>> childish feud that dated back to their 20's. Well hey, it's almost 50
    years later and if Kuthe was still online they'd still be at it.

    IIRC Bryan bought a house (next door?) for his son and expected him to
    live in it. His son moved to Mexico instead. There have been recent
    mentions of his son living in Peru. Any guesses why? I surmise it was
    to get away from his asshole father. The stellar father who had to do
    major repairs and sell the house after renters and then squatters
    trashed the place. Yeah, they're such a close knit, happy family. Heh.

    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM

    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of?  His greasy food and gray steaks?

    GM is Bryan's cheerleader. Don't ask me why. But hey, we should all
    aspire to cook bland looking, greasy chicken wings using his fancy high
    oleic oil and don't bother getting a nice char on a steak.

    All true.

    I think what attracts GM in Bryan is that he's a fellow asshole.
    Politically, for instance, they couldn't be further apart but the
    assholiness transcends their differences and brings them together.
    Asshole partners.


    Yep, and TWO assholes for you to sniff, Master.

    Carry on.


    Lol...!!!

    Next time Miss Bwuthie wants to "sniff" I'll load up on liver - with
    LOTS of ONIONS... and very CHEEP and GASSY beer...

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Mar 15 23:07:26 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 21:56:33 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/15/2025 12:04 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:33:22 +0000, gm wrote:

    Jill McQuown wrote:

    We all know he's not the sharpest knife in the
    drawer.  After all, he had to go to summer school because he flunked >>>>> high school English, which is where he met his good buddy John.


    Yet BRYAN has a lovely marriage to a nice gal, a son, hobbies, and he is >>>> nicely retired...


    Yeah, a son that fled the house as soon as he was 18.
    Hobbies?  Frying food is a hobby?  Retired early, took
    a 30% cut to his Social Security check because he was
    tired of stocking shelves.

    A lovely marriage?  More like he's married to a church mouse who puts up
    with him.  We're talking about a guy who went on honeymoon with his pal
    Kuthe and tried to seduce John's wife after Kuthe passed out drunk.
    Yeah, he's a hell of a guy.  BTW, all of those posts are still available
    on the Google archives when all he ever did was rant about Kuthe in some
    childish feud that dated back to their 20's.  Well hey, it's almost 50
    years later and if Kuthe was still online they'd still be at it.

    IIRC Bryan bought a house (next door?) for his son and expected him to
    live in it.  His son moved to Mexico instead.  There have been recent
    mentions of his son living in Peru.  Any guesses why?  I surmise it was
    to get away from his asshole father.  The stellar father who had to do
    major repairs and sell the house after renters and then squatters
    trashed the place.  Yeah, they're such a close knit, happy family. Heh.

    Maybe you are a wee bit "jealous", EH, Princess Jill...???

    GM


    What does Buffoon Bryan have that she or anyone would
    be jealous of?  His greasy food and gray steaks?

    GM is Bryan's cheerleader.  Don't ask me why.  But hey, we should all
    aspire to cook bland looking, greasy chicken wings using his fancy high
    oleic oil and don't bother getting a nice char on a steak.

    Jill

    Damn, GM sure triggered your Highness.

    Get the royal doctor to prescribe some tranquilizers from publix.


    The way she's carrying on, ya'd think I'd put my hands up her dress or something...

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Janet on Sat Mar 15 23:26:40 2025
    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:32:57 +0000, Janet wrote:

    In article <vr26tl$23tjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...


    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one:
    MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

    What "privacy"? he's on Facebook, fgs.

    Even on usenet he's already identified his age, state,
    town, local employer, daughter, two babymamas and even his
    vehicles; and posted his own picture. Those provide
    enough info for anyone in the world to trace his address ,
    and much more.

    (Right down to political affiliation. Oh dear).



    Janet UK .

    Mark Z - what a dick.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-5QoRpaRjY

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 16 00:23:28 2025
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:10:11 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 5:31 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

    These days, corned beef is just plain weird. It's full of holes. This
    could be caused by injecting water and other substances into the meat or
    it could be caused by improper handling i.e., freezing the meat is done
    too fast or too slow. Maybe it's caused by some sort of bovine
    neuromuscular disease or alien cattle mutilation.

    I am not exactly sure why corned beef just isn't in our repertoire. I
    can't say that I have have fond memories of it as a kid. My mother used
    to so the corned beef, boiled cabbage and crappy old boiled potatoes
    for St.Patrick's Day. I have eaten corned beef a few times but I just do
    that Irish delicacy.



    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7

    I've made corned beef sandwiches using the canned stuff. Here's a
    sandwich made with Samoa's favorite canned corned beef: Palm. It's not
    bad considering.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2noqAFgvHLPvmFWEA

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sun Mar 16 11:28:39 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:23:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:10:11 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 5:31 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

    These days, corned beef is just plain weird. It's full of holes. This
    could be caused by injecting water and other substances into the meat or >>> it could be caused by improper handling i.e., freezing the meat is done
    too fast or too slow. Maybe it's caused by some sort of bovine
    neuromuscular disease or alien cattle mutilation.

    I am not exactly sure why corned beef just isn't in our repertoire. I
    can't say that I have have fond memories of it as a kid. My mother used
    to so the corned beef, boiled cabbage and crappy old boiled potatoes
    for St.Patrick's Day. I have eaten corned beef a few times but I just do
    that Irish delicacy.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7

    I've made corned beef sandwiches using the canned stuff. Here's a
    sandwich made with Samoa's favorite canned corned beef: Palm. It's not
    bad considering.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2noqAFgvHLPvmFWEA

    I think it's my duty to warn you: there's a vegetable under the meat,
    right next to the empty carb!

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Mar 16 01:32:19 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 0:28:39 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:23:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:10:11 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-14 5:31 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

    These days, corned beef is just plain weird. It's full of holes. This
    could be caused by injecting water and other substances into the meat or >>>> it could be caused by improper handling i.e., freezing the meat is done >>>> too fast or too slow. Maybe it's caused by some sort of bovine
    neuromuscular disease or alien cattle mutilation.

    I am not exactly sure why corned beef just isn't in our repertoire. I
    can't say that I have have fond memories of it as a kid. My mother used
    to so the corned beef, boiled cabbage and crappy old boiled potatoes
    for St.Patrick's Day. I have eaten corned beef a few times but I just do >>> that Irish delicacy.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/sHdh7SduUmu9P24f7

    I've made corned beef sandwiches using the canned stuff. Here's a
    sandwich made with Samoa's favorite canned corned beef: Palm. It's not
    bad considering.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2noqAFgvHLPvmFWEA

    I think it's my duty to warn you: there's a vegetable under the meat,
    right next to the empty carb!

    Lunch today was Japanese curry. It's mostly veggies.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/pGja8XbYoMM1i54y6

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 22:56:48 2025
    On 2025-03-15 8:23 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:10:11 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:


    I've made corned beef sandwiches using the canned stuff. Here's a
    sandwich made with Samoa's favorite canned corned beef: Palm. It's not
    bad considering.


    I had a lot of school lunches made with canned corned beef. I was just a
    kid and didn't know any better. Once I had real roast beef sandwiches it
    was hard to think of the canned stuff as real food.


    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2noqAFgvHLPvmFWEA

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 16 05:07:49 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 2:56:48 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-15 8:23 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:10:11 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:


    I've made corned beef sandwiches using the canned stuff. Here's a
    sandwich made with Samoa's favorite canned corned beef: Palm. It's not
    bad considering.


    I had a lot of school lunches made with canned corned beef. I was just a
    kid and didn't know any better. Once I had real roast beef sandwiches it
    was hard to think of the canned stuff as real food.


    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2noqAFgvHLPvmFWEA

    Canned meats were pretty popular in the old days. It was meat that was
    easy to transport, purchase, and store. Canned meat is usually popular
    in areas where storing meat could be a problem. Canned milk was also
    popular. I used to eat canned corned beef mixed with mayo as a spread.
    It was okay but a lot depends on how hungry you are. These days, beef sandwiches are better.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/1kHSihQrh9fXyHnN7

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Janet on Sun Mar 16 09:38:49 2025
    On 3/15/2025 6:32 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <vr26tl$23tjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...


    The biggest privacy paranoid person in RFC is also the youngest one:
    MT. ( I won't write his name in full for privacy reasons.)

    What "privacy"? he's on Facebook, fgs.

    Even on usenet he's already identified his age, state,
    town, local employer, daughter, two babymamas and even his
    vehicles; and posted his own picture. Those provide
    enough info for anyone in the world to trace his address ,
    and much more.

    (Right down to political affiliation. Oh dear).



    Janet UK .

    It's amusing Bruce thinks he's protecting Michael's privacy. He put
    himself full out there from the get go. Not that he has any reason to
    hide. I like Michael, although I do question some of his life choices
    (and yes, he knows it).

    IME, using duckduckgo as a browser is not so much about tracking as it
    is about not being bombarded by targeted advertising. Using Google, if
    I so much as look up a product someone mentioned I am bombarded by
    advertising popups (thanks to AI). This is why I run Ad Block software
    at home.

    At work, my computer is connected to a server in NYC. No Ad Block
    software. The approved browser at work is Google Chrome. Whenever I
    try to look up something local to South Carolina it wants to correct me
    to be located in NY. Uh, NO. I don't live in NY. So much for
    Artificial Intelligence and data tracking. Heh.

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun Mar 16 14:55:55 2025
    On 2025-03-16, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    At work, my computer is connected to a server in NYC. No Ad Block
    software. The approved browser at work is Google Chrome. Whenever I
    try to look up something local to South Carolina it wants to correct me
    to be located in NY. Uh, NO. I don't live in NY. So much for
    Artificial Intelligence and data tracking. Heh.

    It reads your IP address, which is that of your server. You don't
    live in NY, but you work there, as far as the Internet is concerned.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun Mar 16 10:48:28 2025
    On 3/14/2025 11:32 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-03-14, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    Perhaps some time I should get a small one and use it for sandwiches. I
    have to get myself into a new mindset because when I was a kid we had a
    lot of canned corned beef sandwiches. I have confess that I liked it at
    at the time. In the early 60s they were marketing freezable packs of
    sliced corned beef. I could not go back to the canned stuff.


    Doesn't need salt.

    No, it doesn't need salt. Obviously canned corned beef is nothing like
    actual corned beef brisket. I put one in the crock pot a short while
    ago. Added 2 cups of water, the seasoning packet and a couple of bay
    leaves. It will simmer for about 5-6 hours until tender. At that point
    I will quarter the cabbage and add the cabbage wedges on top, cover and
    cook until the cabbage is tender.

    I don't do the traditional corned beef cooked with carrots and potatoes.
    I did buy some Yukon gold potatoes but I'm thinking I'll cut and roast
    them in the oven, rubbed with a little oil and S&P. As for carrots,
    never really cared for them.

    Dinner tonight will be delicious! And there will be leftovers to take
    for lunch next week. :)

    Jill

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun Mar 16 10:16:42 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    I like Michael, although I do question some of his life choices
    (and yes, he knows it).

    Jill


    You're a busy body.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 16 12:10:48 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-15, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    ...
    we rarely even go to any places that do the loyalty
    stuff because we find that their prices are usually more
    expensive.

    Meijer. IIRC you don't have one near you. I shop there because
    the one near me has the best produce. The fact that they have
    low prices is just a bonus. I use their loyalty program (sparingly)
    and they occasionally send me coupons for stuff like $10 off a $30
    purchase. Their online coupons are mostly for stuff I don't buy,
    so I don't even bother checking.

    our most local Meijer store is more expensive than several
    alternatives. i do go there from time to time to check a
    few items but often their prices are higher enough to make a
    longer drive to the cheaper stores worth it.

    i do agree though that their produce section is much better
    than almost any other place around.

    i was born in GR so Meijers was a normal visit for food
    and a few other things.

    Wallys does better on a lot of prices, but now we have to
    see how thing shake out.


    ...
    I don't look for stuff on sale. If something I already want/need
    is on sale and isn't perishable, I might buy an extra.

    we don't have a lot of space for extras. i've got a few of
    the more bulky things stashed in my closets in my room but i
    don't want much more (every extra item means it takes me more
    time to clean or get at something else).


    songbird

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 16 13:46:20 2025
    On 3/16/2025 10:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-16, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    At work, my computer is connected to a server in NYC. No Ad Block
    software. The approved browser at work is Google Chrome. Whenever I
    try to look up something local to South Carolina it wants to correct me
    to be located in NY. Uh, NO. I don't live in NY. So much for
    Artificial Intelligence and data tracking. Heh.

    It reads your IP address, which is that of your server. You don't
    live in NY, but you work there, as far as the Internet is concerned.

    DUH.

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Mon Mar 17 05:02:25 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:46:20 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-16, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    At work, my computer is connected to a server in NYC. No Ad Block
    software. The approved browser at work is Google Chrome. Whenever I
    try to look up something local to South Carolina it wants to correct me
    to be located in NY. Uh, NO. I don't live in NY. So much for
    Artificial Intelligence and data tracking. Heh.

    It reads your IP address, which is that of your server. You don't
    live in NY, but you work there, as far as the Internet is concerned.

    DUH.

    What did you expect then? Duh.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 18:13:37 2025
    dsi1 wrote:


    Canned meats were pretty popular in the old days. It was meat that was
    easy to transport, purchase, and store. Canned meat is usually popular
    in areas where storing meat could be a problem. Canned milk was also
    popular. I used to eat canned corned beef mixed with mayo as a spread.
    It was okay but a lot depends on how hungry you are. These days, beef sandwiches are better.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/1kHSihQrh9fXyHnN7


    Vintage Car Life Review: 1965 Ford Mustang Six – The True Heart Of The Mustang’s Success

    https://www.curbsideclassic.com/vintage-reviews/1960s-vintage-reviews/ford-brands-1960s-vintage-reviews/vintage-car-life-review-1965-ford-mustang-six-the-true-heart-of-the-mustangs-success/#more-548383


    You sat low in the early Mustang. 'Car Life' magazine remarked:

    "Tall gals, by the way, find the Mustang doesn’t interfere with bouffant hair-dos...

    The bucket seats are quite close to the floorboards and one sits down in
    the car, rather than perching upon it...

    But the petite gals might just complain a bit about this very thing...

    It’s possible that a woman of more diminutive stature would be staring
    more at looming hood than open road...

    There are adjustments which can be made to the seat, but seating
    position should be checked against personal preferences..."

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Sun Mar 16 18:27:59 2025
    On 2025-03-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-15, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    ...
    we rarely even go to any places that do the loyalty
    stuff because we find that their prices are usually more
    expensive.

    Meijer. IIRC you don't have one near you. I shop there because
    the one near me has the best produce. The fact that they have
    low prices is just a bonus. I use their loyalty program (sparingly)
    and they occasionally send me coupons for stuff like $10 off a $30
    purchase. Their online coupons are mostly for stuff I don't buy,
    so I don't even bother checking.

    our most local Meijer store is more expensive than several
    alternatives.

    I could shop at Aldi, Sav-a-Lot, or a couple of pretty skeezy
    places. But the quality of the fresh produce is my primary
    concern. I won't shop at Walmart.

    i do go there from time to time to check a
    few items but often their prices are higher enough to make a
    longer drive to the cheaper stores worth it.

    i do agree though that their produce section is much better
    than almost any other place around.

    i was born in GR so Meijers was a normal visit for food
    and a few other things.

    Wallys does better on a lot of prices, but now we have to
    see how thing shake out.

    I probably don't buy those things. I don't spend much time in
    the middle of the store.

    I don't look for stuff on sale. If something I already want/need
    is on sale and isn't perishable, I might buy an extra.

    we don't have a lot of space for extras.

    Basement. The builder of this house went to a lot of trouble
    in 1947 to dig a basement. It was so much trouble, he put
    a crawlspace under the living and dining rooms. But the
    three bedrooms, bathroom, and kitchen are over a basement.

    My previous house had no basement. That was an absolute
    must-have when I bought this house.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 16 16:08:08 2025
    On 3/16/2025 2:27 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I could shop at Aldi, Sav-a-Lot, or a couple of pretty skeezy
    places. But the quality of the fresh produce is my primary
    concern. I won't shop at Walmart.

    If I happen to go to WalMart for something I may consider picking up a
    bottle of ketchup or peanut butter if I needed it. Won't touch there
    meats and produce.



    Basement. The builder of this house went to a lot of trouble
    in 1947 to dig a basement. It was so much trouble, he put
    a crawlspace under the living and dining rooms. But the
    three bedrooms, bathroom, and kitchen are over a basement.

    My previous house had no basement. That was an absolute
    must-have when I bought this house.


    I don't miss it. My last house was a raised ranch, two levels. While
    not below ground, the bottom level had about a third of the area for
    heating system, oil tank, laundry, storage space, typical basement type
    stuff.

    I do have a two car garage. Like most houses here with them, one car
    fits comfortably with the other "stuff" in there. Water table too high
    here to dig an 8 ft deep hole.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 17 07:18:29 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 16:08:08 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 2:27 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I could shop at Aldi, Sav-a-Lot, or a couple of pretty skeezy
    places. But the quality of the fresh produce is my primary
    concern. I won't shop at Walmart.

    If I happen to go to WalMart for something I may consider picking up a
    bottle of ketchup or peanut butter if I needed it. Won't touch there
    meats and produce.



    Basement. The builder of this house went to a lot of trouble
    in 1947 to dig a basement. It was so much trouble, he put
    a crawlspace under the living and dining rooms. But the
    three bedrooms, bathroom, and kitchen are over a basement.

    My previous house had no basement. That was an absolute
    must-have when I bought this house.


    I don't miss it. My last house was a raised ranch, two levels.

    To me that sounds like your last name is Ewing. "My name is Ewing, Ed
    Ewing."

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 16 19:03:36 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    songbird wrote:
    ...
    we don't have a lot of space for extras.

    Basement. The builder of this house went to a lot of trouble
    in 1947 to dig a basement. It was so much trouble, he put
    a crawlspace under the living and dining rooms. But the
    three bedrooms, bathroom, and kitchen are over a basement.

    My previous house had no basement. That was an absolute
    must-have when I bought this house.

    not when you live in an area that used to be a swamp.
    a deep basement here would be pumping water continually.
    there is a crawlspace here, but it is not convenient at
    all to use for storage. i've often had fantasies of
    lifting this house up and rotating it 180 degrees but
    that is very much not going to happen. i'd be much
    better off just building a small garage to the SW and
    call that good enough, but then we'd have a much
    different view and bleh...

    our current elevation is at grade or slightly below
    so that when it rains enough the sump pump will run for
    a while but when the rains stop eventually so will the
    sump pump. i wish they had put the drains above grade
    and built it up just a little bit more as that would
    have saved quite a bit of wasted energy in pumping
    water that could have flowed by gravity. the house
    itself is above flash flood stage enough that it isn't
    in any kind of danger other than if we had a huge
    amount of rain fall in a very tiny area pretty much all
    at once. we've only had anything close to interesting
    for floods once in 30yrs.

    https://www.anthive.com/project/water/#chapter-7


    songbird

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to songbird on Sun Mar 16 19:32:46 2025
    On 2025-03-16 7:03 p.m., songbird wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    our current elevation is at grade or slightly below
    so that when it rains enough the sump pump will run for
    a while but when the rains stop eventually so will the
    sump pump.

    Wait a sec.... how long is your sump pump running? If you have a decent
    sized pump it should only run about 30 seconds or so and then stop. If
    it is running for extended periods you have way too much water to
    remove. That pump is likely to die and you are going to have flooding.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Mon Mar 17 08:57:43 2025
    On 2025-03-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    songbird wrote:
    ...
    we don't have a lot of space for extras.

    Basement. The builder of this house went to a lot of trouble
    in 1947 to dig a basement. It was so much trouble, he put
    a crawlspace under the living and dining rooms. But the
    three bedrooms, bathroom, and kitchen are over a basement.

    My previous house had no basement. That was an absolute
    must-have when I bought this house.

    not when you live in an area that used to be a swamp.

    That was my second house. The one that made me say "never again".
    The one where we spent a few quality hours on Valentine's Day 1999
    in the crawl space snaking out a clogged pipe. He wielded the
    snake, I pushed buckets of stuff (luckily kitchen stuff, but still
    not nice) across the crawlspace and out the hatch, then carried
    them behind an outbuilding and dumped them.

    Nope. Ready access to all off the house's systems is a requirement.
    The electric lines and furnace ducts running through the partial
    crawlspace of my current house can fend for themselves now (and are
    not likely to need maintenance again in our lifetimes). The plumbing
    is within easy reach from the unfinished basement.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Tue Mar 18 14:16:56 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    I don't do the traditional corned beef cooked with carrots and potatoes.
     I did buy some Yukon gold potatoes but I'm thinking I'll cut and roast them in the oven, rubbed with a little oil and S&P.  As for carrots,
    never really cared for them.

    Dinner tonight will be delicious!  And there will be leftovers to take
    for lunch next week. :)

    Jill


    Here's a good way to make it quicker in an Instant Pot -

    https://pressureluckcooking.com/instant-pot-corned-beef-cabbage/

    That guy has a bunch of great recipes.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Mar 18 21:42:07 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-16 7:03 p.m., songbird wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    our current elevation is at grade or slightly below
    so that when it rains enough the sump pump will run for
    a while but when the rains stop eventually so will the
    sump pump.

    Wait a sec.... how long is your sump pump running? If you have a decent
    sized pump it should only run about 30 seconds or so and then stop. If
    it is running for extended periods you have way too much water to
    remove. That pump is likely to die and you are going to have flooding.

    it's not dead after nearly 30 years...


    songbird

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