• Blueberries -- fresh vs frozen

    From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 19 12:10:39 2025
    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes. The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the
    year. Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen? I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use. The texture though, not as good as they look. I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density. They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Mar 19 12:19:38 2025
    On 2025-03-19 12:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes.  The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the year.  Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen?  I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to use.  The texture though, not as good as they look.  I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density.  They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    My wife buys frozen blueberries all the time but she gets the small wild
    ones. I have bought fresh but she doesn't like the larger cultivated
    berries because they have no flavour. She is particular about the types
    of frozen berries she gets. She has a nice hefty serving of them every
    morning with yogurt. I have occasionally added some frozen blueberries
    to pancakes. I pour the batter and then scatter the still frozen berries
    on top. They thaw quickly in the cooking process. If I add the berries
    to the batter early they colour bleeds into the batter.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Mar 19 18:05:08 2025
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:10:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes. The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the year. Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen? I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use. The texture though, not as good as they look. I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density. They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    Evidently, every blueberry I've ever eaten have either
    been frozen or are subpar, tasteless blue orbs and
    blueberry jam is just gloopy blue sugar. Even frozen
    strawberries and strawberry jam taste like strawberries.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Mar 19 15:49:37 2025
    On 2025-03-19 2:05 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:10:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes.  The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the
    year.  Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen?  I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use.  The texture though, not as good as they look.  I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density.  They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    Evidently, every blueberry I've ever eaten have either
    been frozen or are subpar, tasteless blue orbs and
    blueberry jam is just gloopy blue sugar.  Even frozen
    strawberries and strawberry jam taste like strawberries.


    It's unfortunate that you have not enjoyed good blueberries.
    Cultivated blueberries are relatively new to us but we used to get lots
    of freshly picked wild berries. They are small but packed with flavour.

    I always preferred them in small doses, like a small serving of berries
    in milk or on ice cream or yogurt. I was never crazy about blueberry pie because it was just too much of good thing. I feel the same about
    raspberry pie.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Mar 19 15:55:48 2025
    On 3/19/2025 2:05 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:10:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes.  The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the
    year.  Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen?  I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use.  The texture though, not as good as they look.  I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density.  They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    Evidently, every blueberry I've ever eaten have either
    been frozen or are subpar, tasteless blue orbs and
    blueberry jam is just gloopy blue sugar.  Even frozen
    strawberries and strawberry jam taste like strawberries.

    --
    The flavor is not as intense as a good strawberry. I mentioned Maine
    and Michigan, Dave mentioned some others. One reason they are better is
    the ratio of flavor to size. Those berries are smaller than the ones in
    the store recently but the amount of flavor is the same. You get the
    same from one the size of a peas as the once the size of a golf ball.

    I don't buy strawberries here very often. They look like a nice size
    but they are picked before ripening. They do not ripen once picked.

    I do buy Trappist strawberry preserves. Always have some in the house
    for the past 20 years or so. Inf act, just had a few crackers about an
    hour ago.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Mar 19 22:00:13 2025
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes. The store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the year. Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good, Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so, why not try frozen? I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to use. The texture though, not as good as they look. I guess the freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density. They would look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating. Nope, won't use frozen again.


    This is the truth! The frozen ones get mushy. I don't like it! Much better
    to go for a walk in the forest for 30 minutes and pick your own.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Mar 19 14:31:06 2025
    On 2025-03-19 1:55 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/19/2025 2:05 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:10:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes.  The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the >>> year.  Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen?  I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use.  The texture though, not as good as they look.  I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density.  They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    Evidently, every blueberry I've ever eaten have either
    been frozen or are subpar, tasteless blue orbs and
    blueberry jam is just gloopy blue sugar.  Even frozen
    strawberries and strawberry jam taste like strawberries.

    --
    The flavor is not as intense as a good strawberry.  I mentioned Maine
    and Michigan, Dave mentioned some others.  One reason they are better is
    the ratio of flavor to size.  Those berries are smaller than the ones in
    the store recently but the amount of flavor is the same.  You get the
    same from one the size of a peas as the once the size of a golf ball.

    I don't buy strawberries here very often.  They look like a nice size
    but they are picked before ripening.  They do not ripen once picked.

    I do buy Trappist strawberry preserves.  Always have some in the house
    for the past 20 years or so. Inf act, just had a few crackers about an
    hour ago.

    I freeze 30-35lbs of BC blueberries every year and have them every
    morning on my cereal.
    The flavour and texture are OK for cultivated fruit. I tried some
    frozen ones from the supermarket ONCE and they were awful!! Mealy
    texture and so-so flavour.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Mar 19 22:01:28 2025
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    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025, Ed P wrote:

    On 3/19/2025 2:05 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:10:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes.  The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the >>> year.  Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen?  I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use.  The texture though, not as good as they look.  I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density.  They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    Evidently, every blueberry I've ever eaten have either
    been frozen or are subpar, tasteless blue orbs and
    blueberry jam is just gloopy blue sugar.  Even frozen
    strawberries and strawberry jam taste like strawberries.

    --
    The flavor is not as intense as a good strawberry. I mentioned Maine and Michigan, Dave mentioned some others. One reason they are better is the ratio of flavor to size. Those berries are smaller than the ones in the store recently but the amount of flavor is the same. You get the same from one the size of a peas as the once the size of a golf ball.

    I don't buy strawberries here very often. They look like a nice size but they are picked before ripening. They do not ripen once picked.

    I do buy Trappist strawberry preserves. Always have some in the house for the past 20 years or so. Inf act, just had a few crackers about an hour ago.


    There are different races of blueberries. Store bought are always white
    inside, the ones in the forrest are blue inside.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Graham on Wed Mar 19 22:02:06 2025
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    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025, Graham wrote:

    On 2025-03-19 1:55 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/19/2025 2:05 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:10:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes.  The >>>> store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the >>>> year.  Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so, >>>> why not try frozen?  I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to >>>> use.  The texture though, not as good as they look.  I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density.  They would >>>> look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    Evidently, every blueberry I've ever eaten have either
    been frozen or are subpar, tasteless blue orbs and
    blueberry jam is just gloopy blue sugar.  Even frozen
    strawberries and strawberry jam taste like strawberries.

    --
    The flavor is not as intense as a good strawberry.  I mentioned Maine and >> Michigan, Dave mentioned some others.  One reason they are better is the
    ratio of flavor to size.  Those berries are smaller than the ones in the
    store recently but the amount of flavor is the same.  You get the same from >> one the size of a peas as the once the size of a golf ball.

    I don't buy strawberries here very often.  They look like a nice size but >> they are picked before ripening.  They do not ripen once picked.

    I do buy Trappist strawberry preserves.  Always have some in the house for >> the past 20 years or so. Inf act, just had a few crackers about an hour
    ago.

    I freeze 30-35lbs of BC blueberries every year and have them every morning on my cereal.
    The flavour and texture are OK for cultivated fruit. I tried some
    frozen ones from the supermarket ONCE and they were awful!! Mealy
    texture and so-so flavour.


    Why do you need your blueberries to be from before the time of Christ?

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 19 21:23:30 2025
    D wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes. The
    store
    almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the year.
    Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good, Peru gets
    us
    through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why
    not try frozen? I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use.
    The texture though, not as good as they look. I guess the freezing
    breaks
    down the inner parts and it lacks density. They would look good in a
    fruit
    salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating. Nope, won't use frozen
    again.


    This is the truth! The frozen ones get mushy. I don't like it! Much
    better
    to go for a walk in the forest for 30 minutes and pick your own.


    Do you have bilberries where you live...???

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    GM

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Mar 19 17:48:50 2025
    On 2025-03-19 3:55 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/19/2025 2:05 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    The flavor is not as intense as a good strawberry.  I mentioned Maine
    and Michigan, Dave mentioned some others.  One reason they are better is
    the ratio of flavor to size.  Those berries are smaller than the ones in
    the store recently but the amount of flavor is the same.  You get the
    same from one the size of a peas as the once the size of a golf ball.


    That is the way I have always viewed berry flavour. I figure there is a
    certain amount of flavour in any berry, so small berries are packed with
    as much flavour as a big one but since it is concentrated there is a lot
    more to enjoy in the small ones.

    I don't buy strawberries here very often.  They look like a nice size
    but they are picked before ripening.  They do not ripen once picked.

    I do buy Trappist strawberry preserves.  Always have some in the house
    for the past 20 years or so. Inf act, just had a few crackers about an
    hour ago.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 19 21:22:10 2025
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:02:06 +0000, D wrote:

    D replied to CHRIST - HATER Graham:


    Why do you need your blueberries to be from before the time of Christ?


    Shhhh... do NOT mention Our Lord Jesus Christ to BLASPHEMER Graham...

    He will no doubt have a "cardiac event", lol...!!!

    l-D

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Mar 20 08:24:20 2025
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:19:38 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-19 12:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes.  The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the
    year.  Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen?  I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use.  The texture though, not as good as they look.  I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density.  They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    My wife buys frozen blueberries all the time but she gets the small wild ones. I have bought fresh but she doesn't like the larger cultivated
    berries because they have no flavour. She is particular about the types
    of frozen berries she gets. She has a nice hefty serving of them every morning with yogurt. I have occasionally added some frozen blueberries
    to pancakes. I pour the batter and then scatter the still frozen berries
    on top. They thaw quickly in the cooking process. If I add the berries
    to the batter early they colour bleeds into the batter.

    Where do the wild blueberries grow? Alongside the road? In the forest's?
    How are they harvested and by whom? Nomads? Mountain people? Is it just
    a marketing term?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Thu Mar 20 19:34:59 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 08:24:20 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:19:38 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    My wife buys frozen blueberries all the time but she gets the small wild
    ones. I have bought fresh but she doesn't like the larger cultivated
    berries because they have no flavour. She is particular about the types
    of frozen berries she gets. She has a nice hefty serving of them every
    morning with yogurt. I have occasionally added some frozen blueberries
    to pancakes. I pour the batter and then scatter the still frozen berries
    on top. They thaw quickly in the cooking process. If I add the berries
    to the batter early they colour bleeds into the batter.

    Where do the wild blueberries grow? Alongside the road? In the forest's?
    How are they harvested and by whom? Nomads? Mountain people? Is it just
    a marketing term?

    There's a Dutch show that investigates food items and the marketing
    claims around them. One time they had a product that said it consisted
    of forest fruit. They called the producer and asked which forest that
    was. Producer said the fruit came from a forest, but didn't want to
    get into specifics. A lot of research later, it turned out the fruit
    came from Polish farms.

    --
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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 10:33:28 2025
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    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025, gm wrote:

    D wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes. The
    store
    almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the year. >>> Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good, Peru gets
    us
    through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why
    not try frozen? I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use.
    The texture though, not as good as they look. I guess the freezing
    breaks
    down the inner parts and it lacks density. They would look good in a
    fruit
    salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating. Nope, won't use frozen
    again.


    This is the truth! The frozen ones get mushy. I don't like it! Much
    better
    to go for a walk in the forest for 30 minutes and pick your own.

    Do you have bilberries where you live...???

    Ahhh, the mystery is solved! I blame my lack of english skills for the confusion. Yes, bilberries are everywhere close to where I live. In
    swedish, they are called blåbär (blueberries).

    Oh, I see in the wikipedia entry that they are commonly called "European" blueberries.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 10:36:35 2025
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    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:19:38 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-19 12:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes.  The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the >>> year.  Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen?  I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use.  The texture though, not as good as they look.  I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density.  They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.


    My wife buys frozen blueberries all the time but she gets the small wild
    ones. I have bought fresh but she doesn't like the larger cultivated
    berries because they have no flavour. She is particular about the types
    of frozen berries she gets. She has a nice hefty serving of them every
    morning with yogurt. I have occasionally added some frozen blueberries
    to pancakes. I pour the batter and then scatter the still frozen berries
    on top. They thaw quickly in the cooking process. If I add the berries
    to the batter early they colour bleeds into the batter.

    Where do the wild blueberries grow? Alongside the road? In the forest's?
    How are they harvested and by whom? Nomads? Mountain people? Is it just
    a marketing term?


    Well, when it comes to bilberries, they grow in the forest and are
    harvested by swedish children in autumn. Their small and nimble hands make
    them excellent for this purpose.

    Another strategy commonly employed by smaller companies, is to fly in
    berry pickers from Thailand and have them (equally small and nimble hands)
    pick the berries, and then ship them home, when the seasons is over.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 15:00:10 2025
    In article <vrgjvs$2rpn2$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 08:24:20 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:19:38 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    My wife buys frozen blueberries all the time but she gets the small wild >> ones. I have bought fresh but she doesn't like the larger cultivated
    berries because they have no flavour. She is particular about the types
    of frozen berries she gets. She has a nice hefty serving of them every
    morning with yogurt. I have occasionally added some frozen blueberries
    to pancakes. I pour the batter and then scatter the still frozen berries >> on top. They thaw quickly in the cooking process. If I add the berries
    to the batter early they colour bleeds into the batter.

    Where do the wild blueberries grow? Alongside the road? In the forest's? >How are they harvested and by whom? Nomads? Mountain people? Is it just
    a marketing term?

    There's a Dutch show that investigates food items and the marketing
    claims around them. One time they had a product that said it consisted
    of forest fruit. They called the producer and asked which forest that
    was. Producer said the fruit came from a forest, but didn't want to
    get into specifics. A lot of research later, it turned out the fruit
    came from Polish farms.



    Wild blaeberries (Scotland), blabar (Sweden) , bilberry)
    England are Vaccinium myrtillus, a common native plant
    found in northern Europe woodlands.

    We picked the fruit as children in England, my children
    picked them in Scotland, my half/swedish Grandchildren
    pick them in Norway and Scotland and have a special
    collecting tool that makes it much easier.
    The small tart tasty juicy fruit are invariably cooked
    in pies.


    They are smaller, and sharper tasting, nothing like
    than the cultivated blueberries (Vaccinium corymbosum)
    sold in uk supermarkets (same genus, different species).

    Supermarket blueberries have far less taste and juice
    than the cultivated blueberries I grow in the garden to
    eat straight off the plant. (same for strawberries and
    raspberries).

    Home gardeners can pick varieties for flavour,
    tenderness, high juice etc.

    Commercial growers select varieties for different
    qualities ( uniform size, don't bruise or leak juice
    aftyer picking; can survive a week from picking to point
    of sale.)




    Janet UK

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  • From flood of sins@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Thu Mar 20 15:27:35 2025
    On 2025-03-19, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:10:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Every couple of weeks I make a few batches of blueberry pancakes. The
    store almost always has blueberries and the source varies throughout the
    year. Maine and Michigan are the best, Florida and Mexico are good,
    Peru gets us through the winter.

    Past couple of weeks, the berries did not look great for the price so,
    why not try frozen? I did this morning.

    They were a little bigger, the size is very consistent, clean, ready to
    use. The texture though, not as good as they look. I guess the
    freezing breaks down the inner parts and it lacks density. They would
    look good in a fruit salad, but lack flavor and texture for eating.
    Nope, won't use frozen again.

    Evidently, every blueberry I've ever eaten have either
    been frozen or are subpar, tasteless blue orbs and
    blueberry jam is just gloopy blue sugar. Even frozen
    strawberries and strawberry jam taste like strawberries.

    i love berries. every day there are berries in my lunch bucket.
    this week it's black raspberries and blueberries.

    https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27379

    those blueberries are mildly sweet and tart, just the way i like
    them.

    the _only_ way i eat frozen berries is stirring them into
    yogurt. in the morning and 8oz cup of berries is pulled out of
    the freeze to thaw and mixed with 8oz plain yogurt when they're
    they're still slightly frozen. there's always some berry juice
    from thawing too. i buy only no sugar added frozen berries.

    yes, the ice crystals formed when they are frozen breaks down
    the fiber giving them a gooey texture when thawed. eating them
    partially frozen offers a bit of an enjoyable crunch and that's
    what i usually do.


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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 18:43:10 2025
    On 2025-03-20, dsi1 wrote:

    Where do the wild blueberries
    grow? Alongside the road? In the forests?

    Full sun, thus not too deep into tall forests.

    How are they harvested and by whom?
    Nomads? Mountain people?

    My brother is one of the 'serious' ones. By that
    he means that you need to use topographic maps to
    find areas that are at least an hour or two walk
    from any 4-wheel ATV trail or canoe-navigable waterway.

    Otherwise the bushes will be depleted by weekenders
    just going in as a family affair to get enough for
    a pie or so.

    Be sure to bring:

    - The biggest bottle of bear spray you can get ahold of.
    My brother was a police officer, so he has one of the
    para-military crowd-control models that can shoot a
    stream of concentrated capsicum a dozen meters or so.

    - Depending on wind, an insect bonnet can be helpful.
    Remember, blackflies feed only on blueberry pollen
    and on bird or mammal blood.

    - Enough porous (heavy-duty paper) bags to prevent the
    berries from loosing their 'bloom'. (The dust on the
    surface that gives them their blue colour EVERY time
    they touch anything, including each other. It you
    overfill, the bootom berries will loose much of their
    bloom during your return to civilization, drastically
    reducing their wholesale value. If you are lucky(?),
    you may end up returning by walking twice as far
    carrying half the load each segment.

    - Standard bush 'overnight' bag. (Firestarter /
    GPS / Cell phone, flashlight, freon horn,
    1st aid kit, water, DEET, mosquito bonnet,
    BGBs (tent / raincoat / ground sheet) &c)

    Is it just a marketing term?

    No. The bushes are in no way trimmed,
    fertilized, weeded, &c. They are wild.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Thu Mar 20 14:51:52 2025
    On 3/20/2025 2:43 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-20, dsi1 wrote:

    Where do the wild blueberries
    grow? Alongside the road? In the forests?

    Full sun, thus not too deep into tall forests.

    How are they harvested and by whom?
    Nomads? Mountain people?

    My brother is one of the 'serious' ones. By that
    he means that you need to use topographic maps to
    find areas that are at least an hour or two walk
    from any 4-wheel ATV trail or canoe-navigable waterway.

    Otherwise the bushes will be depleted by weekenders
    just going in as a family affair to get enough for
    a pie or so.

    Be sure to bring:

    - The biggest bottle of bear spray you can get ahold of.
    My brother was a police officer, so he has one of the
    para-military crowd-control models that can shoot a
    stream of concentrated capsicum a dozen meters or so.

    - Depending on wind, an insect bonnet can be helpful.
    Remember, blackflies feed only on blueberry pollen
    and on bird or mammal blood.

    - Enough porous (heavy-duty paper) bags to prevent the
    berries from loosing their 'bloom'. (The dust on the
    surface that gives them their blue colour EVERY time
    they touch anything, including each other. It you
    overfill, the bootom berries will loose much of their
    bloom during your return to civilization, drastically
    reducing their wholesale value. If you are lucky(?),
    you may end up returning by walking twice as far
    carrying half the load each segment.

    - Standard bush 'overnight' bag. (Firestarter /
    GPS / Cell phone, flashlight, freon horn,
    1st aid kit, water, DEET, mosquito bonnet,
    BGBs (tent / raincoat / ground sheet) &c)

    Is it just a marketing term?

    No. The bushes are in no way trimmed,
    fertilized, weeded, &c. They are wild.

    Thanks for all the details. Makes me appreciate the ones at the
    supermarket. I can buy them just wearing shorts and T-shirt.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Mar 20 19:18:40 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 8:34:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 08:24:20 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:19:38 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    My wife buys frozen blueberries all the time but she gets the small wild >>> ones. I have bought fresh but she doesn't like the larger cultivated
    berries because they have no flavour. She is particular about the types
    of frozen berries she gets. She has a nice hefty serving of them every
    morning with yogurt. I have occasionally added some frozen blueberries
    to pancakes. I pour the batter and then scatter the still frozen berries >>> on top. They thaw quickly in the cooking process. If I add the berries
    to the batter early they colour bleeds into the batter.

    Where do the wild blueberries grow? Alongside the road? In the forest's? >>How are they harvested and by whom? Nomads? Mountain people? Is it just
    a marketing term?

    There's a Dutch show that investigates food items and the marketing
    claims around them. One time they had a product that said it consisted
    of forest fruit. They called the producer and asked which forest that
    was. Producer said the fruit came from a forest, but didn't want to
    get into specifics. A lot of research later, it turned out the fruit
    came from Polish farms.

    A lot of people consider kids and Poles to be "wild" so I suppose in
    that way, they are wild blueberries. Wild blueberries sound better than
    Polish blueberries but only marginally. What I'd like to see is polished blueberries. That would be awesome.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Mar 20 15:37:48 2025
    On 3/20/2025 3:17 PM, Bruce wrote:


    "Blueberries sold in American supermarkets are not typically picked in
    the wild. They are almost always cultivated on commercial farms, where
    they are grown in controlled conditions to ensure consistent quality,
    size, and yield.

    However, wild blueberries (Vaccinium angustifolium), which are smaller
    and more intensely flavored than cultivated varieties (Vaccinium
    corymbosum), are commercially harvested in certain regions like Maine
    and eastern Canada. These are usually harvested using special hand
    rakes or mechanical harvesters and are often sold frozen or processed
    rather than fresh. If you see "wild blueberries" in stores, they are
    usually from these managed wild fields rather than berries foraged individually from untouched wilderness."


    Maine has some of the best. Right soil, right climate.
    Peru is the biggest exporter of blueberries and they are here in winter.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Mar 21 06:17:27 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 14:51:52 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 3/20/2025 2:43 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-20, dsi1 wrote:

    Where do the wild blueberries
    grow? Alongside the road? In the forests?

    Full sun, thus not too deep into tall forests.

    How are they harvested and by whom?
    Nomads? Mountain people?

    My brother is one of the 'serious' ones. By that
    he means that you need to use topographic maps to
    find areas that are at least an hour or two walk
    from any 4-wheel ATV trail or canoe-navigable waterway.

    Otherwise the bushes will be depleted by weekenders
    just going in as a family affair to get enough for
    a pie or so.

    Be sure to bring:

    - The biggest bottle of bear spray you can get ahold of.
    My brother was a police officer, so he has one of the
    para-military crowd-control models that can shoot a
    stream of concentrated capsicum a dozen meters or so.

    - Depending on wind, an insect bonnet can be helpful.
    Remember, blackflies feed only on blueberry pollen
    and on bird or mammal blood.

    - Enough porous (heavy-duty paper) bags to prevent the
    berries from loosing their 'bloom'. (The dust on the
    surface that gives them their blue colour EVERY time
    they touch anything, including each other. It you
    overfill, the bootom berries will loose much of their
    bloom during your return to civilization, drastically
    reducing their wholesale value. If you are lucky(?),
    you may end up returning by walking twice as far
    carrying half the load each segment.

    - Standard bush 'overnight' bag. (Firestarter /
    GPS / Cell phone, flashlight, freon horn,
    1st aid kit, water, DEET, mosquito bonnet,
    BGBs (tent / raincoat / ground sheet) &c)

    Is it just a marketing term?

    No. The bushes are in no way trimmed,
    fertilized, weeded, &c. They are wild.

    Thanks for all the details. Makes me appreciate the ones at the
    supermarket. I can buy them just wearing shorts and T-shirt.

    "Blueberries sold in American supermarkets are not typically picked in
    the wild. They are almost always cultivated on commercial farms, where
    they are grown in controlled conditions to ensure consistent quality,
    size, and yield.

    However, wild blueberries (Vaccinium angustifolium), which are smaller
    and more intensely flavored than cultivated varieties (Vaccinium
    corymbosum), are commercially harvested in certain regions like Maine
    and eastern Canada. These are usually harvested using special hand
    rakes or mechanical harvesters and are often sold frozen or processed
    rather than fresh. If you see "wild blueberries" in stores, they are
    usually from these managed wild fields rather than berries foraged
    individually from untouched wilderness."

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 19:49:32 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 9:36:35 +0000, D wrote:

    Well, when it comes to bilberries, they grow in the forest and are
    harvested by swedish children in autumn. Their small and nimble hands
    make
    them excellent for this purpose.

    Another strategy commonly employed by smaller companies, is to fly in
    berry pickers from Thailand and have them (equally small and nimble
    hands)
    pick the berries, and then ship them home, when the seasons is over.

    Swedish strawberries are probably superior to even wild Polish
    strawberries. I say that because my step-mom is from Sweden. Bringing in
    Thai workers in from the other side of Asia seems kind of expensive,
    even though they probably don't weigh much and save a lot of jet fuel.
    Perhaps some Poles could be trucked in on Tesla Electric trucks. In this
    way, his image can be redeemed in the eyes of Americans.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 20:13:09 2025
    dsi1 wrote:

    Perhaps some Poles could be trucked in on Tesla Electric trucks. In this
    way, his image can be redeemed in the eyes of Americans.


    David, whilst scummy leftist PUKES have been terrorizing Tesla
    dealerships and individual Tesla owners, Mr. Musk just brought back
    several stranded astronauts, and his Starlink internet is providing
    vital communications services to Ukraine's military and civil sectors...

    OH LOOK, a nooze item - BRAVO AG Bondi... what a GREAT gal she is...!!!


    Attorney General Pam Bondi accuses 3 Tesla vandals of ‘domestic
    terrorism’ after string of attacks

    https://nypost.com/2025/03/20/us-news/pam-bondi-announces-charges-against-3-in-tesla-attacks/

    "Three people accused of destroying Tesla cars and charging stations are
    facing up to 20 years in prison for “domestic terrorism,” US Attorney General Pam Bondi announced Thursday....

    “The days of committing crimes without consequence have ended,” Bondi
    said in a statement...

    “Let this be a warning: If you join this wave of domestic terrorism
    against Tesla properties, the Department of Justice will put you behind bars,” she added...

    The defendants — whose cases are being brought in Colorado, Oregon and
    South Carolina — are accused of using high-powered weapons and
    explosives to destroy property belonging to the Elon Musk-owned car
    company, which has been targeted in recent weeks over his role in the
    Trump administration...

    In Oregon, Adam Matthew Lansky, 41, allegedly carried a suppressed AR-15
    rifle while lobbing eight Molotov cocktails at a Salem Tesla dealership
    Jan. 20. Almost exatly one month later, on Feb. 19, investigators say
    Lansky returned to the dealership and shot out one of the windows and
    fired bullets into a car...

    In Colorado, Lucy Grace Nelson, 40, is charged with malicious
    destruction of property after allegedly trying to light Tesla cars on
    fire at a dealership in Loveland, 45 miles north of Denver...

    Finally, Daniel Clarke-Pounder, 24, is accused of arson of property in interstate commerce after he allegedly vandalized Tesla charging
    stations in Charleston, SC earlier this month with profane anti-Trump
    rhetoric, then torched them..."

    ;-P

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    GM

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 17:09:50 2025
    On 2025-03-20 3:49 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 9:36:35 +0000, D wrote:

    Another strategy commonly employed by smaller companies, is to fly in
    berry pickers from Thailand and have them (equally small and nimble
    hands)
    pick the berries, and then ship them home, when the seasons is over.

    Swedish strawberries are probably superior to even wild Polish
    strawberries. I say that because my step-mom is from Sweden. Bringing in
    Thai workers in from the other side of Asia seems kind of expensive,
    even though they probably don't weigh much and save a lot of jet fuel. Perhaps some Poles could be trucked in on Tesla Electric trucks. In this
    way, his image can be redeemed in the eyes of Americans.

    I was in Sweden one year when strawberries were in season. They were
    pretty good. Our local strawberries are good, but I am afraid the
    quality may be dropping as farmers are switching to those big
    flavorless berries like the Florida imports.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Mar 20 17:27:34 2025
    On 3/20/2025 5:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:


    I was in Sweden one year when strawberries were in season. They were
    pretty good. Our local strawberries are good, but I am afraid the
    quality may be dropping as farmers are switching to those  big
    flavorless berries like the Florida imports.

    Florida berries would be good if they were allowed to ripen. I've
    bought them twice in six years.Most times the tops are still white.


    Best were the ones at the farmer's market in our town in CT. Rachel's
    berries. Picked that morning, fully ripe.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Mar 20 22:28:41 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 21:09:50 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-20 3:49 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 9:36:35 +0000, D wrote:

    Another strategy commonly employed by smaller companies, is to fly in
    berry pickers from Thailand and have them (equally small and nimble
    hands)
    pick the berries, and then ship them home, when the seasons is over.

    Swedish strawberries are probably superior to even wild Polish
    strawberries. I say that because my step-mom is from Sweden. Bringing in
    Thai workers in from the other side of Asia seems kind of expensive,
    even though they probably don't weigh much and save a lot of jet fuel.
    Perhaps some Poles could be trucked in on Tesla Electric trucks. In this
    way, his image can be redeemed in the eyes of Americans.

    I was in Sweden one year when strawberries were in season. They were
    pretty good. Our local strawberries are good, but I am afraid the
    quality may be dropping as farmers are switching to those big
    flavorless berries like the Florida imports.

    Local fruits are always the best. The pineapples, mangoes, papaya, and
    avocados here are just awesome - especially the mangoes.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 23:38:44 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 9:36:35 +0000, D wrote:

    Well, when it comes to bilberries, they grow in the forest and are
    harvested by swedish children in autumn. Their small and nimble hands
    make
    them excellent for this purpose.

    Another strategy commonly employed by smaller companies, is to fly in
    berry pickers from Thailand and have them (equally small and nimble
    hands)
    pick the berries, and then ship them home, when the seasons is over.

    Swedish strawberries are probably superior to even wild Polish
    strawberries. I say that because my step-mom is from Sweden. Bringing in

    Agreed! This is proven by science! =D

    Thai workers in from the other side of Asia seems kind of expensive,
    even though they probably don't weigh much and save a lot of jet fuel.

    This is the truth! They pay them peanuts, so it's worth it compared with
    paying swedish workers the union salary + all benefits. It's quite strange really that no one has complains, but I think most swedish people,
    including union members, think that berrypicking are crappy jobs, so no
    one wants to do it. So that is probably why the Thai pickers are accepted.

    Perhaps some Poles could be trucked in on Tesla Electric trucks. In this
    way, his image can be redeemed in the eyes of Americans.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this would be Elons next move! Could you
    imagine having some Elon-berries in your yoghurt? Harvested by poles, or robots, shipped to you on the purest Tesla trucks! ;)

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 19:04:27 2025
    On 2025-03-20 6:28 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 21:09:50 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    I was in Sweden one year when strawberries were in season. They were
    pretty good. Our local strawberries are good, but I am afraid the
    quality may be dropping as farmers are switching to those  big
    flavorless berries like the Florida imports.

    Local fruits are always the best. The pineapples, mangoes, papaya, and avocados here are just awesome - especially the mangoes.

    I could be very envious, especially in regarding the mangoes. I
    consider myself to be very lucky to be living in a fruit belt, and not
    just close to a fruit growing area but right in it. Within to miles of
    my house I can get freshly picked strawberries, raspberries, peaches,
    apricots, apples, sweet cherries and sour cherries. There used to be a
    cherry orchard across the street from us that the owners maintained but
    didn't harvest. I used to come home from work, make some pie dough and
    then got across the street and pick enough cherries to make a pie. I
    would then pit the cherries, roll out the dough and the cherries would
    be cooking in a pie within 15 minutes of picking. They were the best
    pies of the year.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 22:47:17 2025
    D wrote:



    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 9:36:35 +0000, D wrote:

    Well, when it comes to bilberries, they grow in the forest and are
    harvested by swedish children in autumn. Their small and nimble hands
    make
    them excellent for this purpose.

    Another strategy commonly employed by smaller companies, is to fly in
    berry pickers from Thailand and have them (equally small and nimble
    hands)
    pick the berries, and then ship them home, when the seasons is over.

    Swedish strawberries are probably superior to even wild Polish
    strawberries. I say that because my step-mom is from Sweden. Bringing in

    Agreed! This is proven by science! =D

    Thai workers in from the other side of Asia seems kind of expensive,
    even though they probably don't weigh much and save a lot of jet fuel.

    This is the truth! They pay them peanuts, so it's worth it compared with paying swedish workers the union salary + all benefits. It's quite
    strange
    really that no one has complains, but I think most swedish people,
    including union members, think that berrypicking are crappy jobs, so no
    one wants to do it. So that is probably why the Thai pickers are
    accepted.

    Perhaps some Poles could be trucked in on Tesla Electric trucks. In this
    way, his image can be redeemed in the eyes of Americans.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this would be Elons next move! Could you
    imagine having some Elon-berries in your yoghurt? Harvested by poles, or robots, shipped to you on the purest Tesla trucks! ;)


    "...hipped to you on the purest Tesla trucks!..."


    For DAVID, I will ask THE ELON to ship to him by SPACE X rocket...!!!

    ;-P

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    GM

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Mar 20 18:13:47 2025
    Ed P wrote:
    On 3/20/2025 2:43 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-20, dsi1 wrote:

    Where do the wild blueberries
    grow? Alongside the road? In the forests?

    Full sun, thus not too deep into tall forests.

    How are they harvested and by whom?
    Nomads? Mountain people?

    My brother is one of the 'serious' ones. By that
    he means that you need to use topographic maps to
    find areas that are at least an hour or two walk
    from any 4-wheel ATV trail or canoe-navigable waterway.

    Otherwise the bushes will be depleted by weekenders
    just going in as a family affair to get enough for
    a pie or so.

    Be sure to bring:

    - The biggest bottle of bear spray you can get ahold of.
    My brother was a police officer, so he has one of the
    para-military crowd-control models that can shoot a
    stream of concentrated capsicum a dozen meters or so.

    - Depending on wind, an insect bonnet can be helpful.
    Remember, blackflies feed only on blueberry pollen
    and on bird or mammal blood.

    - Enough porous (heavy-duty paper) bags to prevent the
    berries from loosing their 'bloom'. (The dust on the
    surface that gives them their blue colour EVERY time
    they touch anything, including each other. It you
    overfill, the bootom berries will loose much of their
    bloom during your return to civilization, drastically
    reducing their wholesale value. If you are lucky(?),
    you may end up returning by walking twice as far
    carrying half the load each segment.

    - Standard bush 'overnight' bag. (Firestarter /
    GPS / Cell phone, flashlight, freon horn,
    1st aid kit, water, DEET, mosquito bonnet,
    BGBs (tent / raincoat / ground sheet) &c)

    Is it just a marketing term?

    No. The bushes are in no way trimmed,
    fertilized, weeded, &c. They are wild.

    Thanks for all the details. Makes me appreciate the ones at the
    supermarket. I can buy them just wearing shorts and T-shirt.

    And no need to carry a heavy 7mm rifle and assorted expedition gear!

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Mar 20 18:18:03 2025
    Ed P wrote:
    On 3/20/2025 5:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:


    I was in Sweden one year when strawberries were in season. They were
    pretty good. Our local strawberries are good, but I am afraid the
    quality may be dropping as farmers are switching to those  big
    flavorless berries like the Florida imports.

    Florida berries would be good if they were allowed to ripen. I've
    bought them twice in six years.Most times the tops are still white.


    Best were the ones at the farmer's market in our town in CT. Rachel's berries. Picked that morning, fully ripe.

    Yes, but that was back when teddy Roosevelt was president.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Thu Mar 20 23:21:48 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:


    And no need to carry a heavy 7mm rifle and assorted expedition gear!


    But how ELSE will we RID ourselves of those PESKY stoopid dems and
    LIBTARDS, Sire Hank...???

    😍

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    GM

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri Mar 21 00:32:03 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 18:43:10 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-03-20, dsi1 wrote:

    Where do the wild blueberries
    grow? Alongside the road? In the forests?

    Full sun, thus not too deep into tall forests.

    How are they harvested and by whom?
    Nomads? Mountain people?

    My brother is one of the 'serious' ones. By that
    he means that you need to use topographic maps to
    find areas that are at least an hour or two walk
    from any 4-wheel ATV trail or canoe-navigable waterway.

    Otherwise the bushes will be depleted by weekenders
    just going in as a family affair to get enough for
    a pie or so.

    Be sure to bring:

    - The biggest bottle of bear spray you can get ahold of.
    My brother was a police officer, so he has one of the
    para-military crowd-control models that can shoot a
    stream of concentrated capsicum a dozen meters or so.

    - Depending on wind, an insect bonnet can be helpful.
    Remember, blackflies feed only on blueberry pollen
    and on bird or mammal blood.

    - Enough porous (heavy-duty paper) bags to prevent the
    berries from loosing their 'bloom'. (The dust on the
    surface that gives them their blue colour EVERY time
    they touch anything, including each other. It you
    overfill, the bootom berries will loose much of their
    bloom during your return to civilization, drastically
    reducing their wholesale value. If you are lucky(?),
    you may end up returning by walking twice as far
    carrying half the load each segment.

    - Standard bush 'overnight' bag. (Firestarter /
    GPS / Cell phone, flashlight, freon horn,
    1st aid kit, water, DEET, mosquito bonnet,
    BGBs (tent / raincoat / ground sheet) &c)

    Is it just a marketing term?

    No. The bushes are in no way trimmed,
    fertilized, weeded, &c. They are wild.


    The paradox of India:

    Punjab is over 60% vegetarian, but Tandoori chicken and butter chicken
    are its most popular dishes outside the state...

    Tamil Nadu is less than 1% vegetarian, but its “pure veg” idly, dosa, sambhar, pongal, etc are its most popular dishes outside the state...

    🐸

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    GM

    --

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 21:16:51 2025
    gm wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:


    And no need to carry a heavy 7mm rifle and assorted expedition gear!


    But how ELSE will we RID ourselves of those PESKY stoopid dems and
    LIBTARDS, Sire Hank...???


    Don't worry. You'll be safe, as long as you keep your head firmly
    plugged into trump's ass hole.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Mar 21 02:45:23 2025
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 2:16:51 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    gm wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:


    And no need to carry a heavy 7mm rifle and assorted expedition gear!


    But how ELSE will we RID ourselves of those PESKY stoopid dems and
    LIBTARDS, Sire Hank...???


    Don't worry. You'll be safe, as long as you keep your head firmly
    plugged into trump's ass hole.


    Revelation 13:6:

    "It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his
    name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven..."

    🐸

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 10:38:49 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, gm wrote:

    D wrote:



    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, dsi1 wrote:

    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 9:36:35 +0000, D wrote:

    Well, when it comes to bilberries, they grow in the forest and are
    harvested by swedish children in autumn. Their small and nimble hands
    make
    them excellent for this purpose.

    Another strategy commonly employed by smaller companies, is to fly in
    berry pickers from Thailand and have them (equally small and nimble
    hands)
    pick the berries, and then ship them home, when the seasons is over.

    Swedish strawberries are probably superior to even wild Polish
    strawberries. I say that because my step-mom is from Sweden. Bringing in

    Agreed! This is proven by science! =D

    Thai workers in from the other side of Asia seems kind of expensive,
    even though they probably don't weigh much and save a lot of jet fuel.

    This is the truth! They pay them peanuts, so it's worth it compared with
    paying swedish workers the union salary + all benefits. It's quite
    strange
    really that no one has complains, but I think most swedish people,
    including union members, think that berrypicking are crappy jobs, so no
    one wants to do it. So that is probably why the Thai pickers are
    accepted.

    Perhaps some Poles could be trucked in on Tesla Electric trucks. In this >>> way, his image can be redeemed in the eyes of Americans.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this would be Elons next move! Could you
    imagine having some Elon-berries in your yoghurt? Harvested by poles, or
    robots, shipped to you on the purest Tesla trucks! ;)


    "...hipped to you on the purest Tesla trucks!..."


    For DAVID, I will ask THE ELON to ship to him by SPACE X rocket...!!!

    ;-P

    David is in for a treat! =D There's no berry like the Elonberry!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Mar 21 10:47:21 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, Hank Rogers wrote:

    gm wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote:


    And no need to carry a heavy 7mm rifle and assorted expedition gear!


    But how ELSE will we RID ourselves of those PESKY stoopid dems and
    LIBTARDS, Sire Hank...???


    Don't worry. You'll be safe, as long as you keep your head firmly plugged into trump's ass hole.

    Why? Is it bullet proof?

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