Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
Hi.
Some time (read: 25 years) ago, I asked about a minimal diet for
survival:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/yNDNcy8v5B0/m/VpIYtj1S9W4J
I now have a new objective. I live in Sydney and have access
to a supermarket. But I want to see if I can survive without grid electricity. Just portable solar. Basically emulating conditions
that might exist if I was backpacking in some jungle. I have 40W
solar panels that fit in a backpack. So does my laptop and
smartphone and powerbanks. Satellite communication is
portable and lightweight too. I only need to connect once/day
via UUCP to participate in newsgroups. I have actually been
sorting out the software side for decades (see https://pdos.org).
Solar electricity I have only taken an interest in in the last
couple of years when I was temporarily in the Philippines (and
experienced daily blackouts and once it was about 3 days).
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
I would want food that I could stockpile for say a 3 month
supply. And I'm looking for something that could theoretically
be sustainable and healthy forever.
When I was in the Philippines they survived without electricity
after a blackout that lasted about 3 days, but people had
chickens and stuff. I didn't look too closely at the food supply.
My focus was on electricity - specifically to be able to continue
my programming work without electricity other than that I
could get from the Sun. And portable.
I don't want to maintain chickens either. Nor grow vegetables.
I live in a 2-bedroom unit.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:16:06 +0000, Paul Edwards wrote:
Hi.
Some time (read: 25 years) ago, I asked about a minimal diet for
survival:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/yNDNcy8v5B0/m/VpIYtj1S9W4J
I now have a new objective. I live in Sydney and have access
to a supermarket. But I want to see if I can survive without grid
electricity. Just portable solar. Basically emulating conditions
that might exist if I was backpacking in some jungle. I have 40W
solar panels that fit in a backpack. So does my laptop and
smartphone and powerbanks. Satellite communication is
portable and lightweight too. I only need to connect once/day
via UUCP to participate in newsgroups. I have actually been
sorting out the software side for decades (see https://pdos.org).
Solar electricity I have only taken an interest in in the last
couple of years when I was temporarily in the Philippines (and
experienced daily blackouts and once it was about 3 days).
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
I would want food that I could stockpile for say a 3 month
supply. And I'm looking for something that could theoretically
be sustainable and healthy forever.
When I was in the Philippines they survived without electricity
after a blackout that lasted about 3 days, but people had
chickens and stuff. I didn't look too closely at the food supply.
My focus was on electricity - specifically to be able to continue
my programming work without electricity other than that I
could get from the Sun. And portable.
I don't want to maintain chickens either. Nor grow vegetables.
I live in a 2-bedroom unit.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
Just stock up on a lot of canned goods. Mostly canned meats and beans.
You can get some cheap instant ramen or even expensive Korean noodles.
You might want to have a hot meal every once in a while - even if you're lazy. You can pick up a butane stove and cans of butane for not much
money. I've used one daily for years. Make sure that you have plenty of potable water on hand. You could probably live on that kind of diet for
quite a while. Years, but maybe not forever. A month would be a cake
walk, I reckon.
You could also try out some MREs - I suppose some folks might enjoy that
kind of thing.
Just stock up on a lot of canned goods. Mostly canned meats and beans.
You can get some cheap instant ramen or even expensive Korean noodles.
dsi1 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:16:06 +0000, Paul Edwards wrote:
Hi.
Some time (read: 25 years) ago, I asked about a minimal diet for
survival:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/yNDNcy8v5B0/m/VpIYtj1S9W4J >>>
I now have a new objective. I live in Sydney and have access
to a supermarket. But I want to see if I can survive without grid
electricity. Just portable solar. Basically emulating conditions
that might exist if I was backpacking in some jungle. I have 40W
solar panels that fit in a backpack. So does my laptop and
smartphone and powerbanks. Satellite communication is
portable and lightweight too. I only need to connect once/day
via UUCP to participate in newsgroups. I have actually been
sorting out the software side for decades (see https://pdos.org).
Solar electricity I have only taken an interest in in the last
couple of years when I was temporarily in the Philippines (and
experienced daily blackouts and once it was about 3 days).
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
I would want food that I could stockpile for say a 3 month
supply. And I'm looking for something that could theoretically
be sustainable and healthy forever.
When I was in the Philippines they survived without electricity
after a blackout that lasted about 3 days, but people had
chickens and stuff. I didn't look too closely at the food supply.
My focus was on electricity - specifically to be able to continue
my programming work without electricity other than that I
could get from the Sun. And portable.
I don't want to maintain chickens either. Nor grow vegetables.
I live in a 2-bedroom unit.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
Just stock up on a lot of canned goods. Mostly canned meats and beans.
You can get some cheap instant ramen or even expensive Korean noodles.
You might want to have a hot meal every once in a while - even if you're
lazy. You can pick up a butane stove and cans of butane for not much
money. I've used one daily for years. Make sure that you have plenty of
potable water on hand. You could probably live on that kind of diet for
quite a while. Years, but maybe not forever. A month would be a cake
walk, I reckon.
You could also try out some MREs - I suppose some folks might enjoy that
kind of thing.
Tojo, if he's a dink, he could live on a 100 lb bag of rice, with an old hubcap to boil it in. Maybe for the rest of his life.
On 3/27/2025 6:04 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Just stock up on a lot of canned goods. Mostly canned meats and beans.
You can get some cheap instant ramen or even expensive Korean noodles.
Buy small cans or share it. When opened though, it does not keep un-refrigerated.
Storage:
Once you open a can of meat, it's best to transfer the unused portion to
a food-grade glass or plastic container for better flavor and quality. Refrigeration:
Store the opened can or container of meat in the refrigerator to
maintain its safety and freshness.
Shelf Life:
Canned meat, once opened, should be consumed within 3 to 4 days when refrigerated.
dsi1 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:16:06 +0000, Paul Edwards wrote:
Hi.
Some time (read: 25 years) ago, I asked about a minimal diet for
survival:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/yNDNcy8v5B0/m/VpIYtj1S9W4J >>>
I now have a new objective. I live in Sydney and have access
to a supermarket. But I want to see if I can survive without grid
electricity. Just portable solar. Basically emulating conditions
that might exist if I was backpacking in some jungle. I have 40W
solar panels that fit in a backpack. So does my laptop and
smartphone and powerbanks. Satellite communication is
portable and lightweight too. I only need to connect once/day
via UUCP to participate in newsgroups. I have actually been
sorting out the software side for decades (see https://pdos.org).
Solar electricity I have only taken an interest in in the last
couple of years when I was temporarily in the Philippines (and
experienced daily blackouts and once it was about 3 days).
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
I would want food that I could stockpile for say a 3 month
supply. And I'm looking for something that could theoretically
be sustainable and healthy forever.
When I was in the Philippines they survived without electricity
after a blackout that lasted about 3 days, but people had
chickens and stuff. I didn't look too closely at the food supply.
My focus was on electricity - specifically to be able to continue
my programming work without electricity other than that I
could get from the Sun. And portable.
I don't want to maintain chickens either. Nor grow vegetables.
I live in a 2-bedroom unit.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
Just stock up on a lot of canned goods. Mostly canned meats and beans.
You can get some cheap instant ramen or even expensive Korean noodles.
You might want to have a hot meal every once in a while - even if you're
lazy. You can pick up a butane stove and cans of butane for not much
money. I've used one daily for years. Make sure that you have plenty of
potable water on hand. You could probably live on that kind of diet for
quite a while. Years, but maybe not forever. A month would be a cake
walk, I reckon.
You could also try out some MREs - I suppose some folks might enjoy that
kind of thing.
Tojo, if he's a dink, he could live on a 100 lb bag of rice, with an old hubcap to boil it in. Maybe for the rest of his life.
On 3/27/2025 9:16 AM, Paul Edwards wrote:
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
Do a search for "prepper food" and you will see their are many sources
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
of food kits that may work for you. I imagine you'd supplement a kit
with other items, but this would be a good start.
Supplement it with fruit and veggies you can buy locally
You won't die of starvation, but maybe from eating boredom.
https://readywise.com/? cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww&cjevent=e39e02ac0b1311f0838e07680a82b820
On 3/27/2025 10:02 AM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/27/2025 9:16 AM, Paul Edwards wrote:
Do a search for "prepper food" and you will see their are many sources
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
of food kits that may work for you. I imagine you'd supplement a kit
with other items, but this would be a good start.
Supplement it with fruit and veggies you can buy locally
You won't die of starvation, but maybe from eating boredom.
https://readywise.com/?
cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww&cjevent=e39e02ac0b1311f0838e07680a82b820
Sounds like Paul is intentionally trying to make his life difficult. He
has portable solar panels to power electronics but doesn't want to
bother having to refrigerate or cook food. Canned dog food comes to mind.
Jill
On 3/27/2025 10:02 AM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/27/2025 9:16 AM, Paul Edwards wrote:
Do a search for "prepper food" and you will see their are many sources
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
of food kits that may work for you. I imagine you'd supplement a kit
with other items, but this would be a good start.
Supplement it with fruit and veggies you can buy locally
You won't die of starvation, but maybe from eating boredom.
https://readywise.com/?
cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww&cjevent=e39e02ac0b1311f0838e07680a82b820
Sounds like Paul is intentionally trying to make his life difficult. He
has portable solar panels to power electronics but doesn't want to
bother having to refrigerate or cook food. Canned dog food comes to mind.
On 2025-03-28, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 3/27/2025 10:02 AM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/27/2025 9:16 AM, Paul Edwards wrote:
Do a search for "prepper food" and you will see their are many sources
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
of food kits that may work for you. I imagine you'd supplement a kit
with other items, but this would be a good start.
Supplement it with fruit and veggies you can buy locally
You won't die of starvation, but maybe from eating boredom.
https://readywise.com/?
cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww&cjevent=e39e02ac0b1311f0838e07680a82b820
Sounds like Paul is intentionally trying to make his life difficult. He
has portable solar panels to power electronics but doesn't want to
bother having to refrigerate or cook food. Canned dog food comes to mind.
Oddly, my killfile is suppressing his posts. He must be posting
from some domain that chronically hosts nutbars.
On 2025-03-28, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 3/27/2025 10:02 AM, Ed P wrote:
On 3/27/2025 9:16 AM, Paul Edwards wrote:
Do a search for "prepper food" and you will see their are many sources
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
of food kits that may work for you. I imagine you'd supplement a kit
with other items, but this would be a good start.
Supplement it with fruit and veggies you can buy locally
You won't die of starvation, but maybe from eating boredom.
https://readywise.com/?
cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww&cjevent=e39e02ac0b1311f0838e07680a82b820
Sounds like Paul is intentionally trying to make his life difficult. He
has portable solar panels to power electronics but doesn't want to
bother having to refrigerate or cook food. Canned dog food comes to mind.
Oddly, my killfile is suppressing his posts. He must be posting
from some domain that chronically hosts nutbars.
marika <marika5000@
Looked it up
Textured Vegetable Protein by Heritage Hill Farms
Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
Some time (read: 25 years) ago, I asked about a minimal diet for
survival:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/yNDNcy8v5B0/m/VpIYtj1S9W4J
I now have a new objective. I live in Sydney and have access
to a supermarket. But I want to see if I can survive without grid
electricity. Just portable solar. Basically emulating conditions
that might exist if I was backpacking in some jungle. I have 40W
solar panels that fit in a backpack. So does my laptop and
smartphone and powerbanks. Satellite communication is
portable and lightweight too. I only need to connect once/day
via UUCP to participate in newsgroups. I have actually been
sorting out the software side for decades (see https://pdos.org).
Solar electricity I have only taken an interest in in the last
couple of years when I was temporarily in the Philippines (and
experienced daily blackouts and once it was about 3 days).
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
I would want food that I could stockpile for say a 3 month
supply. And I'm looking for something that could theoretically
be sustainable and healthy forever.
When I was in the Philippines they survived without electricity
after a blackout that lasted about 3 days, but people had
chickens and stuff. I didn't look too closely at the food supply.
My focus was on electricity - specifically to be able to continue
my programming work without electricity other than that I
could get from the Sun. And portable.
I don't want to maintain chickens either. Nor grow vegetables.
I live in a 2-bedroom unit.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
I food shop a lot on Amazon from necessity.
One time, I was looking to make a simulation of Jack in The Box tacos.
My
sister’s favorites.
It is obvious they don’t use real meat. So I bought this stuff that
alleged
it was some sort of soy product meat substitute. It looked just like the
taco meat from The Box.
It came in a large can, and had an outrageously improbable expiration
date.
The labelling said it was good for camping and for preppers.
Apparently, they have a whole variety of products.
My sister’s favorites said the tacos came out nearly identical to Box tacos.
One time, I was hungry and there was nothing really available to
eat, so I tried some of the granules without rehydrating.
Omg they were so good. Like eating popcorn or potato chips. Perfect
snack.
Hi.
Some time (read: 25 years) ago, I asked about a minimal diet for
survival:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/yNDNcy8v5B0/m/VpIYtj1S9W4J
I now have a new objective. I live in Sydney and have access
to a supermarket. But I want to see if I can survive without grid electricity. Just portable solar. Basically emulating conditions
that might exist if I was backpacking in some jungle. I have 40W
solar panels that fit in a backpack. So does my laptop and
smartphone and powerbanks. Satellite communication is
portable and lightweight too. I only need to connect once/day
via UUCP to participate in newsgroups. I have actually been
sorting out the software side for decades (see https://pdos.org).
Solar electricity I have only taken an interest in in the last
couple of years when I was temporarily in the Philippines (and
experienced daily blackouts and once it was about 3 days).
Anyway, before, price was something I was interested in. Now
I'm not too worried about price. I'm interested in not having to
store food in a fridge, and not having to cook. I don't want to
spend time cooking (lazy), but also, I will (simulating) have no
electricity or gas to cook with anyway.
I would want food that I could stockpile for say a 3 month
supply. And I'm looking for something that could theoretically
be sustainable and healthy forever.
When I was in the Philippines they survived without electricity
after a blackout that lasted about 3 days, but people had
chickens and stuff. I didn't look too closely at the food supply.
My focus was on electricity - specifically to be able to continue
my programming work without electricity other than that I
could get from the Sun. And portable.
I don't want to maintain chickens either. Nor grow vegetables.
I live in a 2-bedroom unit.
What are my options within this new constraint?
I remember there was some "astronaut food". I don't know
if that was a real thing, but it could be as simple as buying
that.
Thanks. Paul.
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