• Winery visit

    From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 27 16:58:55 2025
    I went to Bunker Hill winery today. Have not been there for a while.

    I did buy some wine, but I also took them about 35 empty bottles that I
    saved for them to recycle. It is a real small Mom & Pop operation.
    When visiting, every time the owners are doing everything.

    I consider most of what they make "fun" wines, good, not something to
    pair with a $100 steak. I got a bottle of the Dandelion Petal Nice
    light flavor, good to just drink on its own. Bottle of Orange, made
    from local fresh juice.

    https://www.bunkerhillvineyard.com/

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Mar 27 16:44:34 2025
    Ed P wrote:
    I went to Bunker Hill winery today.  Have not been there for a while.

    I did buy some wine, but I also took them about 35 empty bottles that I
    saved for them to recycle.  It is a real small Mom & Pop operation. When visiting, every time the owners are doing everything.

    I consider most of what they make "fun" wines, good, not something to
    pair with a $100 steak.  I got a bottle of the Dandelion Petal Nice
    light flavor, good to just drink on its own.  Bottle of Orange, made
    from local fresh juice.

    https://www.bunkerhillvineyard.com/


    Did they have any elderberry or watermelon wine?

    My favorite is blackberry. Best wine I ever made.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Fri Mar 28 08:47:14 2025
    On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 17:37:53 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-03-27 4:58 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    I went to Bunker Hill winery today.  Have not been there for a while.

    I did buy some wine, but I also took them about 35 empty bottles that I
    saved for them to recycle.  It is a real small Mom & Pop operation. When
    visiting, every time the owners are doing everything.

    It's nice to have wineries close to home. We had one open up around the
    corner from us. They planted a couple years ago and started selling
    their products last year. I haven't dropped in to try them out yet.They
    only have a couple acres of grapes so far, at least on that property. I
    was surprised to see them planting a vineyard there. Niagara is a major >grape growing region but most of the vineyards are on the north side,
    along and near the escarpment and around Niagara on the Lake. The soils
    are completely different. I am on the back side of the escarpment and
    it is sandy loam, not shale and limestone.

    Do you have to take the wine bottles all the way back there to recycle?
    In Ontario we pay a a deposit on all alcohol containers including the >bladders in boxed wines. We take then back to the Beer Store to collect
    the deposits.

    That doesn't sound like something a red state would do. Red states
    like to destroy the environment.

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    Bruce
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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Mar 27 17:37:53 2025
    On 2025-03-27 4:58 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    I went to Bunker Hill winery today.  Have not been there for a while.

    I did buy some wine, but I also took them about 35 empty bottles that I
    saved for them to recycle.  It is a real small Mom & Pop operation. When visiting, every time the owners are doing everything.

    It's nice to have wineries close to home. We had one open up around the
    corner from us. They planted a couple years ago and started selling
    their products last year. I haven't dropped in to try them out yet.They
    only have a couple acres of grapes so far, at least on that property. I
    was surprised to see them planting a vineyard there. Niagara is a major
    grape growing region but most of the vineyards are on the north side,
    along and near the escarpment and around Niagara on the Lake. The soils
    are completely different. I am on the back side of the escarpment and
    it is sandy loam, not shale and limestone.

    Do you have to take the wine bottles all the way back there to recycle?
    In Ontario we pay a a deposit on all alcohol containers including the
    bladders in boxed wines. We take then back to the Beer Store to collect
    the deposits.




    I consider most of what they make "fun" wines, good, not something to
    pair with a $100 steak.  I got a bottle of the Dandelion Petal Nice
    light flavor, good to just drink on its own.  Bottle of Orange, made
    from local fresh juice.




    I was wondering. I had a look on Google Maps and they don't seem to have
    many grapes growing around there. A number of our local wineries grow
    a lot of their own grapes but a number of them buy mostly from family
    owned grape farms. FWIW, some of the best local wines are made by a
    small number of independent winemakers. One of my neighbours is a
    premier wine maker who gets contracted to oversee production at a number
    of small wineries and is very active in the Cold Climate Chardonnay organization. His work takes him to Oregon, France, South American and Australia.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Mar 27 16:48:32 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-27 4:58 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    I went to Bunker Hill winery today.  Have not been there for a while.

    I did buy some wine, but I also took them about 35 empty bottles that
    I saved for them to recycle.  It is a real small Mom & Pop operation.
    When visiting, every time the owners are doing everything.

    It's nice to have wineries close to home.  We had one open up around the
     corner from us. They planted a couple years ago and started selling
    their products last year. I haven't dropped in to try them out yet.They
    only have a  couple acres of grapes so far, at least on that property. I
    was surprised to see them planting a vineyard there.  Niagara is a major grape growing region but most of the vineyards are on the north side,
    along and near the escarpment and around Niagara on the Lake.  The soils
    are completely different. I am on the back  side of the escarpment and
    it is sandy loam, not shale and limestone.

    Do you have to take the wine bottles all the way back there to recycle?
    In Ontario we pay a a deposit on all alcohol containers including the bladders in boxed wines. We take then back to the Beer Store to collect
    the deposits.




    I consider most of what they make "fun" wines, good, not something to
    pair with a $100 steak.  I got a bottle of the Dandelion Petal Nice
    light flavor, good to just drink on its own.  Bottle of Orange, made
    from local fresh juice.




    I was wondering. I had a look on Google Maps and they don't seem to have
     many grapes growing around there.  A number of our local wineries grow
    a lot of their own grapes but a number of them buy mostly from family
    owned grape farms.  FWIW, some of the best local wines are made by a
    small number of independent winemakers. One of my neighbours is a
    premier wine maker who gets contracted to oversee production at a number
    of small wineries and is very active in the Cold Climate Chardonnay organization. His work takes him to Oregon, France, South American and Australia.


    Isn't Mogen david wine made somewhere near you? Probably MD 20-20 too.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Mar 27 17:00:28 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 17:37:53 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-03-27 4:58 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    I went to Bunker Hill winery today.  Have not been there for a while.

    I did buy some wine, but I also took them about 35 empty bottles that I
    saved for them to recycle.  It is a real small Mom & Pop operation. When >>> visiting, every time the owners are doing everything.

    It's nice to have wineries close to home. We had one open up around the
    corner from us. They planted a couple years ago and started selling
    their products last year. I haven't dropped in to try them out yet.They
    only have a couple acres of grapes so far, at least on that property. I
    was surprised to see them planting a vineyard there. Niagara is a major
    grape growing region but most of the vineyards are on the north side,
    along and near the escarpment and around Niagara on the Lake. The soils
    are completely different. I am on the back side of the escarpment and
    it is sandy loam, not shale and limestone.

    Do you have to take the wine bottles all the way back there to recycle?
    In Ontario we pay a a deposit on all alcohol containers including the
    bladders in boxed wines. We take then back to the Beer Store to collect
    the deposits.

    That doesn't sound like something a red state would do. Red states
    like to destroy the environment.

    Master, you're just jealous because you don't live on the back side of
    an escarpment! Much better sniffing there I bet.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Mar 27 19:53:07 2025
    On 3/27/2025 5:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    Do you have to take the wine bottles all the way back there to recycle?
    In Ontario we pay a a deposit on all alcohol containers including the bladders in boxed wines. We take then back to the Beer Store to collect
    the deposits.



    We have no deposits in this state. we do have recycling pickup and
    glass goes someplace to be re-processed. This winery just cleans and
    uses the bottle as is. Minimal processing.

    From their website.
    Wine Bottles
    We take 750 ml. wine bottles and 12 oz (355 ml.) beer bottles in all
    shapes and colors. Please be sure to rinse out your empty wine and beer
    bottles with clean water before dropping them off to us. This will help
    remove any leftover wine or beer residue that could attract bugs.

    We do not, however, take other Florida winery wine bottles. We believe
    their bottles should be returned back to them.

    Did you know that more than 300 million cases of wine are sold in the
    United States each year? An estimated 70% of these wine bottles end up
    in our local landfills (per the EPA) and for every ton of glass that we
    have to replace, 384 lb. of mining waste is created. For every ton of
    glass that we have to replace, we have to use 1,330 lb. of sand, 433 lb.
    of soda ash, 433 lb. of limestone, 30 lb. of air pollution and 151 lb.
    of feldspar.

    Glass wine and beer bottles never wear out and they can be recycled and
    reused forever. By only using recycled wine and beer bottles, we have
    reduced our carbon footprint by a whopping 60%!

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Mar 28 11:54:51 2025
    On 3/27/2025 7:53 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/27/2025 5:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    Do you have to take the wine bottles all the way back there to
    recycle? In Ontario we pay a a deposit on all alcohol containers
    including the bladders in boxed wines. We take then back to the Beer
    Store to collect the deposits.



    We have no deposits in this state.  we do have recycling pickup and
    glass goes someplace to be re-processed.  This winery just cleans and
    uses the bottle as is. Minimal processing.

    From their website.
    Wine Bottles
    We take 750 ml. wine bottles and 12 oz (355 ml.) beer bottles in all
    shapes and colors. Please be sure to rinse out your empty wine and beer bottles with clean water before dropping them off to us. This will help remove any leftover wine or beer residue that could attract bugs.

    We do not, however, take other Florida winery wine bottles. We believe
    their bottles should be returned back to them.

    Did you know that more than 300 million cases of wine are sold in the
    United States each year? An estimated 70% of these wine bottles end up
    in our local landfills (per the EPA) and for every ton of glass that we
    have to replace, 384 lb. of mining waste is created. For every ton of
    glass that we have to replace, we have to use 1,330 lb. of sand, 433 lb.
    of soda ash, 433 lb. of limestone, 30 lb. of air pollution and 151 lb.
    of feldspar.

    Glass wine and beer bottles never wear out and they can be recycled and reused forever. By only using recycled wine and beer bottles, we have
    reduced our carbon footprint by a whopping 60%!

    That's impressive and also a very responsible stance for them to take.
    I particularly like that they will not be re-using bottles from
    different Florida wineries; I presume they will accept bottles from
    wineries in different states since they aren't in direct competition.

    Jill

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