• Re: Ban coffee?

    From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Mar 31 21:54:15 2025
    On 3/31/2025 9:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 21:06:16 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 3/31/2025 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 3:19 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    Her intentions were good and I'm doing similar.  For Lent I gave up
    bourbon aged more than 15 years,

    Does that apply to 12 year old Bourbon that has been sitting in you
    liquor cabinet for four years?


    I'm honestly not sure. As a precaution though, I make sure nothing sits
    in the liquor cabinet for four years.

    The Publix liquor store me has a bottle of Whistle Pig bourbon 21 year
    for a good price compared to other places. $700. Because it is Lent, I
    passed.

    I can get 12 year old Whistle Pig locally: https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_126547/whistle-pig-12-year-old-rye-whiskey-750ml

    AUD 148.99 converts to USD 92.92. I'll stick with ALDI liquor.


    You are being a bad influence on me. I just checked what I had and
    since I took the bottle from the cabinet, I poured enough to cover an
    ice cube.

    6 year old. Forget the price but it as about $30 to $35.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Mon Mar 31 21:28:30 2025
    On 2025-03-31 4:56 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 3:19 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 11:27 AM, flood of sins wrote:
    On 2025-03-30, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    That shows, once again, that religion holds people back. It has a
    retarding effect.

    with the thread about a container of gelato having a stubborn
    top fresh in mind;

    a few years back we (my wife and i) hosted an early spring
    family picnic. for dessert we brought out cake and ice cream. had
    a relative ask if we had any gelato because she stopped eating
    ice cream for lent. i loled. she got offended. retarding effect
    indeed.


    Her intentions were good and I'm doing similar.  For Lent I gave up
    bourbon aged more than 15 years, only A2 Wagyu beef, no A5, limit of
    12 ounces of beer at a time.  Yes, it is difficult but you just have
    to do it.

    My late Uncle married a Catholic woman.  (He did not convert but agreed
    to allow the children to be raised Catholic; as far as I know only my
    Aunt and their daughter took the whole Catholic thing seriously.)  Every year my Uncle gave up beer for Lent.  He had never been a beer drinker. ;)

    Jill
    My father used to give up smoking for Lent. One year, on resumption, he
    had a coughing fit, blacked out and fell, cutting his head. He gave up
    the habit immediately and never smoked again, lasting another 50 years.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 31 21:30:05 2025
    On 2025-03-31 7:06 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 3:19 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 11:27 AM, flood of sins wrote:
    On 2025-03-30, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    That shows, once again, that religion holds people back. It has a
    retarding effect.

    with the thread about a container of gelato having a stubborn
    top fresh in mind;

    a few years back we (my wife and i) hosted an early spring
    family picnic. for dessert we brought out cake and ice cream. had
    a relative ask if we had any gelato because she stopped eating
    ice cream for lent. i loled. she got offended. retarding effect
    indeed.


    Her intentions were good and I'm doing similar.  For Lent I gave up
    bourbon aged more than 15 years,


    Does that apply to 12 year old Bourbon that has been sitting in you
    liquor cabinet for four years?


    I'm honestly not sure.  As a precaution though, I make sure nothing sits
    in the liquor cabinet for four years.

    The Publix liquor store me has a bottle of Whistle Pig bourbon 21 year
    for a good price compared to other places.  $700.  Because it is Lent, I passed.

    You won't get US bourbon in Canada now, only Canadian made equivalent.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Mar 31 23:52:44 2025
    On 3/31/2025 11:30 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 7:06 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 3:19 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 11:27 AM, flood of sins wrote:
    On 2025-03-30, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    That shows, once again, that religion holds people back. It has a
    retarding effect.

    with the thread about a container of gelato having a stubborn
    top fresh in mind;

    a few years back we (my wife and i) hosted an early spring
    family picnic. for dessert we brought out cake and ice cream. had
    a relative ask if we had any gelato because she stopped eating
    ice cream for lent. i loled. she got offended. retarding effect
    indeed.


    Her intentions were good and I'm doing similar.  For Lent I gave up
    bourbon aged more than 15 years,


    Does that apply to 12 year old Bourbon that has been sitting in you
    liquor cabinet for four years?


    I'm honestly not sure.  As a precaution though, I make sure nothing
    sits in the liquor cabinet for four years.

    The Publix liquor store me has a bottle of Whistle Pig bourbon 21 year
    for a good price compared to other places.  $700.  Because it is Lent,
    I passed.

    You won't get US bourbon in Canada now, only Canadian made equivalent.

    It will be interesting in some months to come. Some Canadian businesses
    may do better, others may be destroyed.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Mar 31 23:59:53 2025
    On 2025-03-31 11:30 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 7:06 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    The Publix liquor store me has a bottle of Whistle Pig bourbon 21 year
    for a good price compared to other places.  $700.  Because it is Lent,
    I passed.

    You won't get US bourbon in Canada now, only Canadian made equivalent.

    That sucks for people like my son. He doesn't drink much but he likes
    good whiskey or beer once in a while. Last year he was diagnosed
    celiac, so beer, rye, Scotch and Irish are out. He got into Bourbon. He
    stocked up on Bourbon before the LCBO removed it from their stores.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 31 22:04:20 2025
    On 2025-03-31 9:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 11:30 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 7:06 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 3:19 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 11:27 AM, flood of sins wrote:
    On 2025-03-30, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    That shows, once again, that religion holds people back. It has a >>>>>>> retarding effect.

    with the thread about a container of gelato having a stubborn
    top fresh in mind;

    a few years back we (my wife and i) hosted an early spring
    family picnic. for dessert we brought out cake and ice cream. had
    a relative ask if we had any gelato because she stopped eating
    ice cream for lent. i loled. she got offended. retarding effect
    indeed.


    Her intentions were good and I'm doing similar.  For Lent I gave up >>>>> bourbon aged more than 15 years,


    Does that apply to 12 year old Bourbon that has been sitting in you
    liquor cabinet for four years?


    I'm honestly not sure.  As a precaution though, I make sure nothing
    sits in the liquor cabinet for four years.

    The Publix liquor store me has a bottle of Whistle Pig bourbon 21
    year for a good price compared to other places.  $700.  Because it is
    Lent, I passed.

    You won't get US bourbon in Canada now, only Canadian made equivalent.

    It will be interesting in some months to come.  Some Canadian businesses
    may do better, others may be destroyed.

    I went to buy some oranges this morning but the only ones were
    Californian. So I bought Mexican grapefruit instead.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Tue Apr 1 00:12:29 2025
    On 2025-04-01 12:04 a.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 9:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    It will be interesting in some months to come.  Some Canadian
    businesses may do better, others may be destroyed.

    I went to buy some oranges this morning but the only ones were
    Californian. So I bought Mexican grapefruit instead.I h

    I have been seeing American strawberries selling for the lowest prices I
    have seen in ages. Normally we would be snapping them up but they aren't selling.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Apr 1 00:10:43 2025
    On 2025-03-31 11:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/31/2025 11:30 PM, Graham wrote:
    The Publix liquor store me has a bottle of Whistle Pig bourbon 21
    year for a good price compared to other places.  $700.  Because it is
    Lent, I passed.

    You won't get US bourbon in Canada now, only Canadian made equivalent.

    It will be interesting in some months to come.  Some Canadian businesses
    may do better, others may be destroyed.


    For some strange reason the orange man decided that he should destroy
    the economy of his country's neighbour, ally and biggest trading partner
    so that we would welcome annexation. We know things will be rough but
    the idea is to add to the pain that his tariffs are going to do to the
    red hat idiots who are confused about how tariffs work.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Apr 1 04:22:55 2025
    On 2025-04-01, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-31 11:30 p.m., Graham wrote:

    You won't get US bourbon in Canada now, only Canadian made equivalent.

    my son [...] got into Bourbon. He stocked up on Bourbon
    before the LCBO removed it from their stores.

    I am at a loss to what Graham means by the phrase
    "Canadian made equivalent" to bourbon.

    From: The National Post 22 Mar 2014: by Adam McDowall

    Fix My Drink: Why Canadian bourbon is a mythical beast

    This week’s question: “Apparently Canadian law requires products
    labelled ‘bourbon’ to be made in the United States. But does Canada
    produce a corn whisky? If so, can you recommend an American-style
    whisky from Canada? Surely there must be a whisky in Canada
    that tastes like bourbon.” Mike in Delta, B.C.

    Answer: You could make a bourbon-style whisky in Canada, but according
    to our trade agreements it would have to be labelled something else.

    According to Davin de Kergommeaux, who is the author of Canadian Whisky:
    The Portable Expert (McClelland & Stewart) and the human being who probably knows the most about Canadian whisky, “There is only one distillery that
    I know of in Canada that … makes real bourbon. But all of it is used for blending. I guarantee they will never release it as corn whisky or as bourbon.” The identity is a trade secret.

    Article content

    It’s hard to imagine proud Canadian whisky-makers mimicking U.S. products

    De Kergommeaux notes that there are two domestic all-corn whiskies on
    the Canadian market, both from Highwood Distillers of Alberta:
    Century Reserve Lot 15-25 and Century Reserve 21. The latter is available
    in British Columbia and it doesn’t taste at all like bourbon.

    It is a distinctively Canadian whisky — and not one that I particularly enjoyed. Following a nicely sweet nose with citrus notes, I felt it
    descended into an overly austere rinse of oak and searing pepper with
    a hot finish. In my opinion too much age can wreck a North American whisky,
    and 21 years is pushing it. (De Kergommeaux, for his part, disagrees:
    He awarded it four out of five stars at his site, canadianwhisky.org.)

    Bourbon and Canadian whisky are different and equally majestic animals.
    Similar grains may be employed on both sides of the border — corn, wheat, barley and rye, in varying proportions — but the processes differ from there. “There is a lot more that defines bourbon than just corn,” de Kergommeaux says.
    Wood and climate, for example: Canadian distillers mostly age whisky in used barrels, which impart less oak flavour, and it rests in non-temperature- controlled warehouses in locales with wild, cold weather. Moreover,
    it’s hard to imagine proud Canadian whisky-makers mimicking U.S. products.

    Our distillers generally aim for nuanced and spicy, whereas bourbon is more exuberantly flavourful. If you’re a bourbon fan in the hunt for a Canadian product, your best bet is probably an all-rye whisky like Alberta Premium
    Dark Horse or Lot No. 40. These are flavourful — but they aren’t bourbons.

    A cat will be a cat and a dog will be a dog, and there’s plenty of room
    for both to coexist in your house.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Apr 1 00:16:04 2025
    On 3/31/2025 11:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 11:30 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 7:06 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    The Publix liquor store me has a bottle of Whistle Pig bourbon 21
    year for a good price compared to other places.  $700.  Because it is
    Lent, I passed.

    You won't get US bourbon in Canada now, only Canadian made equivalent.

    That sucks for people like my son. He doesn't drink much but he likes
    good whiskey or beer once in a while.  Last year he was diagnosed
    celiac, so beer, rye, Scotch and Irish are out. He got into Bourbon. He stocked up on Bourbon before the LCBO removed it from their stores.


    Crown Royal and VO were always good.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Tue Apr 1 00:29:42 2025
    On 4/1/2025 12:22 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-04-01, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-03-31 11:30 p.m., Graham wrote:

    You won't get US bourbon in Canada now, only Canadian made equivalent.



    According to Davin de Kergommeaux, who is the author of Canadian Whisky:
    The Portable Expert (McClelland & Stewart) and the human being who probably knows the most about Canadian whisky, “There is only one distillery that
    I know of in Canada that … makes real bourbon. But all of it is used for blending. I guarantee they will never release it as corn whisky or as bourbon.” The identity is a trade secret.

    That may change now that circumstances changed.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Apr 1 16:02:02 2025
    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 21:54:15 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 3/31/2025 9:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 21:06:16 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 3/31/2025 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 3:19 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    Her intentions were good and I'm doing similar.  For Lent I gave up >>>>> bourbon aged more than 15 years,

    Does that apply to 12 year old Bourbon that has been sitting in you
    liquor cabinet for four years?


    I'm honestly not sure. As a precaution though, I make sure nothing sits >>> in the liquor cabinet for four years.

    The Publix liquor store me has a bottle of Whistle Pig bourbon 21 year
    for a good price compared to other places. $700. Because it is Lent, I >>> passed.

    I can get 12 year old Whistle Pig locally:
    https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_126547/whistle-pig-12-year-old-rye-whiskey-750ml

    AUD 148.99 converts to USD 92.92. I'll stick with ALDI liquor.


    You are being a bad influence on me. I just checked what I had and
    since I took the bottle from the cabinet, I poured enough to cover an
    ice cube.

    6 year old. Forget the price but it as about $30 to $35.

    Liquor and beer are crazy expensive here. Only Australian wine's
    affordable.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Scott Doty@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 1 02:18:44 2025
    In article <vsem8f$1ersd$1@paganini.bofh.team>, andy@yoner.net says...

    dsi1 wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 14:50:48 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:


    Are you suggesting that China would not be completely open and honest?
    They have the best numbers. Other countries wish they had those
    numbers. But seriously..... it can be an issue. When our provinces
    first started testing of all school students to monitor the quality of
    results of school boards the Catholic boards tended to show better
    performance and of course they were quick to claim it was because they
    education system was superior. It had a lot more to do with their lack
    of special education facilities. They sent their special needs students
    to the public school special ed classes. Who would have expected that
    they all those special needs kids would lower the average.


    I'm willing to believe they're smarter, but not on the basis
    of 104 vs. 97.

    It seems to depend on the site. The numbers are different. China tends
    to be at or near the top and the US tends to be well down the list.
    While there are slight differences in scores reported, the rankings are
    pretty consistent.

    I wonder about the cultural effects on the IQ testing. IQ tests are
    notoriously affected by language and culture.

    Da Hawaiians have close ties with the Chinese so we know that the
    Chinese are indeed smarter than you or I. What isn't smart is to ever underestimate the Chinese. My grandkids are part Chinese - that's a good thing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_immigration_to_Hawaii


    How do the Chinese name their children?

    They drop silverware in the sink and listen to the sound it makes.


    I've always heard they throw the silverware down the stairs.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Apr 2 07:15:56 2025
    On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 21:03:47 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Saw this today >https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/14-moments-america-tried-to-ban-something-totally-harmless/ss-AA1BQGJK?

    15) I read that Republicans in Arkansas want a ban on short haircuts
    for girls because it encourages them to become transgender.

    The gap between right-wing America and the Taliban is getting smaller
    and smaller.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Apr 1 17:18:12 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    For some strange reason the orange man decided that he should destroy
    the economy of his country's neighbour, ally and biggest trading partner
    so that we would welcome annexation.

    Rest assured, he is also destroying his own country's economy as well.
    But he figures it's a necessary step to consolidate his power, and
    destroy our government. You can read all his plans in his "Project 2025" document.

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