<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
Salt, pepper, canola oil and disjointed wings. I may use Frank's to dip
next time. I can't see how it would be better, just different.
I apologize if I posted my last pic of these, last week. Eight joints
apiece to gnaw on. Cheap and easy!
leo
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellIt looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
that's not a huge amount.
Probably. Good stuff.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:34:34 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellIt looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
that's not a huge amount.
Probably. Good stuff.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
Salt, pepper, canola oil and disjointed wings. I may use Frank's to dip
next time. I can't see how it would be better, just different.
I apologize if I posted my last pic of these, last week. Eight joints
apiece to gnaw on. Cheap and easy!
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:34:34 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netThe dry packets are not available there in the salad
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellIt looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
that's not a huge amount.
Probably. Good stuff.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 03:08:33 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net >(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:34:34 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netThe dry packets are not available there in the salad
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellIt looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
that's not a huge amount.
Probably. Good stuff.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
I've never specifically looked, but I'd never heard of ranch before
RFC.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
--
That's a LOT of wings. Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Everything looks good, I can see some good spice on those
wings unlike some recently posted by someone else. BUT
those bitter cabbages!! Leo how could you???
Actually, I never knew "ranch" was a common category of houses in the
US and not just for people like the Ewings. I learnt this from a flip
flop housing show with that white guy and his Asian looking partner.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 03:08:33 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
The dry packets are not available there in the salad
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
I've never specifically looked, but I'd never heard of ranch before
RFC.
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I usedIt's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Everything looks good, I can see some good spice on those
wings unlike some recently posted by someone else. BUT
those bitter cabbages!! Leo how could you???
We started buying David's ramen, and it enjoys being jazzed up. So...I >started buying green onions, radishes, fresh broccoli and brussels
sprouts for flavor boosting.
We had some brussels sprouts that were getting old, and I'm cheap, so I
used them. Sorry! 💩 I'm not good with emojis. Was that appropriate?
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I usedIt's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I used
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 4:02:46 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
You did good! 👍 They're 'built in' on Winders computers.
We had some brussels sprouts that were getting old, and I'm cheap, so I
used them. Sorry! 💩 I'm not good with emojis. Was that appropriate?
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:29:05 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's a popular style. Everything is one level, no upstairs
Actually, I never knew "ranch" was a common category of houses in the
US and not just for people like the Ewings. I learnt this from a flip
flop housing show with that white guy and his Asian looking partner.
and depending on your lot, no basement either.
A zillion years ago when I smoked we had a specific area at
work to puff. It was always the same group of people and
one of men was older than most of us. He said he lived in
a large house with an upstairs where of course the bedrooms
and baths were. His and his wife's health had deteriorated
enough that they no longer accessed the upstairs and had
moved their bedroom downstairs. They had half a house they
couldn't use and I'm pretty sure the smoking didn't help
their health issues.
We had some brussels sprouts that were getting old, and I'm cheap, so I
used them. Sorry! 💩 I'm not good with emojis. Was that appropriate?
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:16:17 +1000, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 03:08:33 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net >>(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:34:34 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netThe dry packets are not available there in the salad
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellIt looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
that's not a huge amount.
Probably. Good stuff.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
I've never specifically looked, but I'd never heard of ranch before
RFC.
Actually, I never knew "ranch" was a common category of houses in the
US and not just for people like the Ewings. I learnt this from a flip
flop housing show with that white guy and his Asian looking partner.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:34:34 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellIt looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
that's not a huge amount.
Probably. Good stuff.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
*Poindexter disclaimer: generally speaking
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:34:34 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netThe dry packets are not available there in the salad
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard BlaisdellIt looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
that's not a huge amount.
Probably. Good stuff.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
Wikipedia says buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, black pepper, and
herbs. I've never had buttermilk, but with those additions it sounds
good.
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
The dry packets are not available there in the saladProbably. Good stuff.
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
Or one could make ranch dressing from basic ingredients,
rather than relying on a packet. AIUI, buttermilk might
be tricky to find outside the US.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I used
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
On 2025-04-15, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:16:17 +1000, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
I've never specifically looked, but I'd never heard of ranch before
RFC.
Actually, I never knew "ranch" was a common category of houses in the
US and not just for people like the Ewings. I learnt this from a flip
flop housing show with that white guy and his Asian looking partner.
I live in a ranch house. It's the second one I've owned.
Not every single-story house is a ranch. I grew up in a
house in a style that's now called "American Small House"
or "Minimal Traditional House".
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:22:24 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
The dry packets are not available there in the saladProbably. Good stuff.
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
Or one could make ranch dressing from basic ingredients,
rather than relying on a packet. AIUI, buttermilk might
be tricky to find outside the US.
I believe supermarkets worldwide only sell imitation buttermilk
anymore. Not that I know the difference, because I never had either.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:28:39 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:16:17 +1000, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
I've never specifically looked, but I'd never heard of ranch before >>>>RFC.
Actually, I never knew "ranch" was a common category of houses in the
US and not just for people like the Ewings. I learnt this from a flip
flop housing show with that white guy and his Asian looking partner.
I live in a ranch house. It's the second one I've owned.
Not every single-story house is a ranch. I grew up in a
house in a style that's now called "American Small House"
or "Minimal Traditional House".
Is that detached? In the Netherlands most houses are "row houses"
-shoulder to shoulder- if that's the term. You have to either be
affluent or very rural to have a detached house.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:You still need the buttermilk and sour cream or mayo. I imagine the
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I usedThere's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
Salt, pepper, canola oil and disjointed wings. I may use Frank's to dip
next time. I can't see how it would be better, just different.
I apologize if I posted my last pic of these, last week. Eight joints
apiece to gnaw on. Cheap and easy!
Is that detached? In the Netherlands most houses are "row houses"
-shoulder to shoulder- if that's the term. You have to either be
affluent or very rural to have a detached house.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
It looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
that's not a huge amount.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
On 2025-04-15 1:12 a.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
You still need the buttermilk and sour cream or mayo. I imagine theI am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I used >>> to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was aThere's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
packages have only the herbs and spices.
On 4/15/2025 6:27 AM, Bruce wrote:
Is that detached? In the Netherlands most houses are "row houses"
-shoulder to shoulder- if that's the term. You have to either be
affluent or very rural to have a detached house.
Row house is such a mundane term. They are now often call a Town House,
much classier and you can raise the price of it that way.
My first house was a row house in Philadelphia. 70% of the hgouese in
the city are row homes.
A step up is a twin home. Two joined with a common wall but some space between.
This is my first house, bought in 1966. It is the one behind the tree.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4543-Shelmire-Ave_Philadelphia_PA_19136_M36726-91018
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
It looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
that's not a huge amount.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
Buffalonian here. you know, right? the place where chicken
wings originated from. that's where i am from.
NO! ranch dressing on chicken wings is NOT "good stuff".
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
On 2025-04-15, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranchYou still need the buttermilk and sour cream or mayo. I imagine the
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
packages have only the herbs and spices.
You can get packages that require buttermilk and packages that have
powdered buttermilk inside.
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
Buffalonian here. you know, right? the place where chicken
wings originated from. that's where i am from.
NO! ranch dressing on chicken wings is NOT "good stuff".
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
On 2025-04-15, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
It looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
that's not a huge amount.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
Buffalonian here. you know, right? the place where chicken
wings originated from. that's where i am from.
NO! ranch dressing on chicken wings is NOT "good stuff".
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
Chicken wings don't need anything but Frank's hot sauce and butter.
Ranch is for the celery and carrot sticks. Blue cheese dressing is
for throwing away.
On 2025-04-15 9:28 a.m., flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
Buffalonian here. you know, right? the place where chicken
wings originated from. that's where i am from.
NO! ranch dressing on chicken wings is NOT "good stuff".
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
I am not sure it would be worthy of a fatwah but, yes, Buffalo wings
most definitely need blue cheese dressing. It is puzzling for me to see people dipping the wings in the dressing. The dressing is for the
healthier part of the meal, the celery and carrot sticks. It is to help
tone down the heat of that spicy chicken.
On 2025-04-15, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
It looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
that's not a huge amount.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
Buffalonian here. you know, right? the place where chicken
wings originated from. that's where i am from.
NO! ranch dressing on chicken wings is NOT "good stuff".
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
Chicken wings don't need anything but Frank's hot sauce and butter.
Ranch is for the celery and carrot sticks. Blue cheese dressing is
for throwing away.
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
Chicken wings don't need anything but Frank's hot sauce and butter.
Ranch is for the celery and carrot sticks. Blue cheese dressing is
for throwing away.
lol
the tubs of blue cheese dressing with pull off foil lids that
typically come with takeout wings have hardly any blue cheese
flavor at all. might as well be ranch dressing. but to not be
wasteful it's ok on the pizza which is usually ordered with the
wings. some idjits put the veggies in the box with wings hot out
of the fryer so they are wilted and disgusting by the time they
make it home. those get thrown away immediately.
On 2025-04-15 9:43 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranchYou still need the buttermilk and sour cream or mayo. I imagine the
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
packages have only the herbs and spices.
You can get packages that require buttermilk and packages that have
powdered buttermilk inside.
I assumed that if one were to make a buttermilk based dressing from
scratch one would start with real buttermilk. Heck, one of the things
that stops me from cooking with buttermilk is the waste of buttermilk.
This would allow us to make a batch of buttermilk pancakes and then use
the leftovers for dressing.
I assumed that if one were to make a buttermilk based dressing from
scratch one would start with real buttermilk. Heck, one of the things
that stops me from cooking with buttermilk is the waste of buttermilk.
This would allow us to make a batch of buttermilk pancakes and then use
the leftovers for dressing.
Chicken wings don't need anything but Frank's hot sauce and butter.
Margarine, not butter. I helped some friends build a bar in
St.Catharines that was the first to offer Buffalo wings. We went to many Buffalo area bars to try the wings and to get recipes. They used oleo.
Ranch is for the celery and carrot sticks. Blue cheese dressing is
for throwing away.
I can see that being a substitute for those who dislike blue cheese, but
if you want to call them Buffalo wings then it should be blue cheese.
I'd just make ranch from scratch. You can use pantry ingredients
for everything but the buttermilk. It's not much more difficult
than opening a package, and you can spare yourself maltodextrin,
MSG, calcium stearate, artificial flavor, xanthan gum, carboxymethylcellulose, and guar gum.
You've confused me for someone who gives a shit. I usually order
boneless Buffalo wings.
You've confused me for someone who gives a shit. I usually order
boneless Buffalo wings.
On 4/15/2025 10:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I assumed that if one were to make a buttermilk based dressing from
scratch one would start with real buttermilk. Heck, one of the things
that stops me from cooking with buttermilk is the waste of buttermilk.
This would allow us to make a batch of buttermilk pancakes and then
use the leftovers for dressing.
I used to waste some after making pancakes. Then I bought the powdered buttermilk and added that right in and just added water. Could not tell
any difference.
Then I tried Krusteaz and never looked back.
On 2025-04-15, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I can see that being a substitute for those who dislike blue cheese, but
if you want to call them Buffalo wings then it should be blue cheese.
You've confused me for someone who gives a shit. I usually order
boneless Buffalo wings.
Then again, the closest I've been to a Buffalo wing in quite a long
time is taking leftover grilled skinless, boneless chicken breast
and taking the chill off it in butter and Frank's.
On 2025-04-15 11:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I can see that being a substitute for those who dislike blue cheese, but >>> if you want to call them Buffalo wings then it should be blue cheese.
You've confused me for someone who gives a shit. I usually order
boneless Buffalo wings.
You apparently cared enough to reply ;-)
IMO the bones are part of what makes them so good. Otherwise is a knife
and fork meal not bar food.
Then again, the closest I've been to a Buffalo wing in quite a long
time is taking leftover grilled skinless, boneless chicken breast
and taking the chill off it in butter and Frank's.
What can I say. I went to dozens of Buffalo area bars with my friend and
we were told oleo. He used oleo for his wings. I helped out in the
kitchen for a while. I also used to have a deep fryer at home and made chicken wings almost every week. I tried improving them by using butter
a couple times. They were much better with margarine.
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
You've confused me for someone who gives a shit. I usually order
boneless Buffalo wings.
peeve of the day:
boneless chicken wings are chicken wings in the same way large
language models are artificially intelligent.
both are not what
they are being called. if it ain't got bones, or as Ed pointed
out, it didn't have bones to begin with, it's not a wing. even
airplane wings have bones (spars).
but we all do the same thing. again, shop rat here. i'm the kind
of person who gives people crap about calling adjustable
wrenches crescent wrenches. Crescent is a brand of wrench. mine
were forged with the name SEARS on them, therefore they are not
crescent wrenches. diagonal cutters on the other hand, those i
call dikes. :)
On 2025-04-15 10:49 a.m., flood of sins wrote:
the tubs of blue cheese dressing with pull off foil lids that
typically come with takeout wings have hardly any blue cheese
flavor at all. might as well be ranch dressing. but to not be
wasteful it's ok on the pizza which is usually ordered with the
wings. some idjits put the veggies in the box with wings hot out
of the fryer so they are wilted and disgusting by the time they
make it home. those get thrown away immediately.
Wings are not take out food. They rank up there with burgers and fires,
fish and chips and just about anything deep fried because they are going
to be soggy by the time you get them home. Wings are for eating in a
bar, steaming hot and crisp and with a nice cold beer.
On 2025-04-15, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:28:39 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I live in a ranch house. It's the second one I've owned.
Not every single-story house is a ranch. I grew up in a
house in a style that's now called "American Small House"
or "Minimal Traditional House".
Is that detached? In the Netherlands most houses are "row houses"
-shoulder to shoulder- if that's the term. You have to either be
affluent or very rural to have a detached house.
Yes. We rarely use the unmodified word "house" to refer to
anything that is attached. Attached dwellings are likely to
be called row house, townhouse, or (somewhat imprecisely) condo.
We have about 85.3 million detached and 8.2 million attached
single-family homes in the U.S.
On 4/15/2025 6:27 AM, Bruce wrote:
Is that detached? In the Netherlands most houses are "row houses"
-shoulder to shoulder- if that's the term. You have to either be
affluent or very rural to have a detached house.
Row house is such a mundane term. They are now often call a Town House,
much classier and you can raise the price of it that way.
My first house was a row house in Philadelphia. 70% of the hgouese in
the city are row homes.
A step up is a twin home. Two joined with a common wall but some space >between.
This is my first house, bought in 1966. It is the one behind the tree.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4543-Shelmire-Ave_Philadelphia_PA_19136_M36726-91018
On 2025-04-15, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-15 1:12 a.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I used >>>> to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was aThere's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
You still need the buttermilk and sour cream or mayo. I imagine the
packages have only the herbs and spices.
You can get packages that require buttermilk and packages that have
powdered buttermilk inside.
On 2025-04-15, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/15/2025 6:27 AM, Bruce wrote:
Is that detached? In the Netherlands most houses are "row houses"
-shoulder to shoulder- if that's the term. You have to either be
affluent or very rural to have a detached house.
Row house is such a mundane term. They are now often call a Town House,
much classier and you can raise the price of it that way.
My first house was a row house in Philadelphia. 70% of the hgouese in
the city are row homes.
A step up is a twin home. Two joined with a common wall but some space
between.
This is my first house, bought in 1966. It is the one behind the tree.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4543-Shelmire-Ave_Philadelphia_PA_19136_M36726-91018
This is my first house, bought in 1989. It is the one on the right. >https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/840-N-Ford-Blvd-Ypsilanti-MI-48198/89557168_zpid/
The double lot was very nice.
On 2025-04-15, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
It looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
that's not a huge amount.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
Buffalonian here. you know, right? the place where chicken
wings originated from. that's where i am from.
NO! ranch dressing on chicken wings is NOT "good stuff".
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
Chicken wings don't need anything but Frank's hot sauce and butter.
Ranch is for the celery and carrot sticks. Blue cheese dressing is
for throwing away.
On 2025-04-15 9:43 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranchYou still need the buttermilk and sour cream or mayo. I imagine the
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
packages have only the herbs and spices.
You can get packages that require buttermilk and packages that have
powdered buttermilk inside.
I assumed that if one were to make a buttermilk based dressing from
scratch one would start with real buttermilk.
A house with no floors is called a bungalow in Dutch, but I think
ranch houses are bigger, more spread out.
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
OMG. Several ingredients. The horror.
Mayo
Buttermilk
Salt
Pepper
Onion powder
Garlic powder
Parsley
Dill weed
I generally use fresh cilantro instead of dill (my husband dislikes
dill), fresh chives or green onion tops instead of onion powder, and
fresh garlic. But I'm an overachiever.
On 2025-04-15 9:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-15, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
That's a LOT of wings.
It looks to be six on one plate, but wings are so small,
that's not a huge amount.
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
Buffalonian here. you know, right? the place where chicken
wings originated from. that's where i am from.
NO! ranch dressing on chicken wings is NOT "good stuff".
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
Chicken wings don't need anything but Frank's hot sauce and butter.
Margarine, not butter.
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:24:45 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On 15 Apr 2025 02:10:39 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
Is that "ranch" in the middle?
Probably. Good stuff.
Buffalonian here. you know, right? the place where chicken
wings originated from. that's where i am from.
NO! ranch dressing on chicken wings is NOT "good stuff".
ranch dressing on chicken wings is BLASPHEMY !
Wikipedia says buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, black pepper, and
herbs. I've never had buttermilk, but with those additions it sounds
good.
What can I say. I went to dozens of Buffalo area bars with my friend and
we were told oleo. He used oleo for his wings. I helped out in the
kitchen for a while. I also used to have a deep fryer at home and made
chicken wings almost every week. I tried improving them by using butter
a couple times. They were much better with margarine.
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters. Much less often after I moved away, and vanishingly
rarely now that I don't go to bars at all.
On 2025-04-15, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<https://postimg.cc/64Qc2fjj>
Salt, pepper, canola oil and disjointed wings. I may use Frank's to dip
next time. I can't see how it would be better, just different.
I apologize if I posted my last pic of these, last week. Eight joints
apiece to gnaw on. Cheap and easy!
noice!
i keep a pint mason jar of POG on the counter at all times.
equal parts ground black pepper, granulated onion, granulated
garlic.
more often than not when we make wings that's all i season with.
i prefer grapeseed oil and a light dusting of POG and they're
cooked on a grill. my wife eats them as they come off the grill,
i usually have a vinegar hot sauce, Frank's or Louisiana, to dip
in. sometimes blue cheese dressing, sometimes not.
i never eat wings with sides though. 12-15 wings is a meal. mix
of drumsticks and flats.
On 4/15/2025 10:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I assumed that if one were to make a buttermilk based dressing from
scratch one would start with real buttermilk. Heck, one of the things
that stops me from cooking with buttermilk is the waste of buttermilk.
This would allow us to make a batch of buttermilk pancakes and then use
the leftovers for dressing.
I used to waste some after making pancakes. Then I bought the powdered >buttermilk and added that right in and just added water. Could not tell
any difference.
Then I tried Krusteaz and never looked back.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:15:54 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
My first house was a row house in Philadelphia. 70% of the houses in
the city are row homes.
A step up is a twin home. Two joined with a common wall but some space
between.
This is my first house, bought in 1966. It is the one behind the tree.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4543-Shelmire-Ave_Philadelphia_PA_19136_M36726-91018
You'll see roughly that style a lot in the Netherlands as well. In
Australia it's rarer.
This is my first house, bought in 1989. It is the one on the right. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/840-N-Ford-Blvd-Ypsilanti-MI-48198/89557168_zpid/
The double lot was very nice.
I had some deep fried cauliflower last night. It was served with some
ranch dressing as a dip. Ranch dressing tends to mellow out the taste of foods. There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fJTZ5Q8mt6iBCnMP6
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
After heart surgery I had a session with a cardiac dietitian who told me
I should never eat wings. She explained about the about of fat in the
wings, the fat they are fried in, the likelihood of trans fats.
it's a good thing the place i get my favorite take out wings
from is 5 minutes from home. i'm there when they come out of the
fryer and they're still piping hot when i get home.
we rarely go to bars, never have frequented them. though once a
year we do hit up the Anchor Bar in downtown Buffalo for wings
and pizza. they do a most excellent bison burger too.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 5:46:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Close.
A house with no floors is called a bungalow in Dutch, but I think
ranch houses are bigger, more spread out.
Bungalows are square, while ranches are rectangular.
Bungalows often have steeper pitched rooflines and
smaller windows, while ranches have more windows
and a more spacious layout.
(From the internet.)
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 5:46:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Close.
A house with no floors is called a bungalow in Dutch, but I think
ranch houses are bigger, more spread out.
Bungalows are square, while ranches are rectangular.
Bungalows often have steeper pitched rooflines and
smaller windows, while ranches have more windows
and a more spacious layout.
(From the internet.)
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close.
Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
On 2025-04-15 2:23 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
What can I say. I went to dozens of Buffalo area bars with my friend and >>> we were told oleo. He used oleo for his wings. I helped out in the
kitchen for a while. I also used to have a deep fryer at home and made
chicken wings almost every week. I tried improving them by using butter
a couple times. They were much better with margarine.
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters. Much less often after I moved away, and vanishingly
rarely now that I don't go to bars at all.
After heart surgery I had a session with a cardiac dietitian who told me
I should never eat wings. She explained about the about of fat in the
wings, the fat they are fried in, the likelihood of trans fats, the fat
and salt in the sauce, plus the fat in the dressing.... and the beer.
I translated that instruction to meaning I could only have them once a
year. I did that for a few years. Then one year I went out for beer and
wings after a kayaking session. They were horrible. They would have
been disappointing at the best of times but even more so when that was
my wig dose for the year. I have to admit it reduced my craving for wings.
On 4/15/2025 2:46 PM, Bruce wrote:
You'll see roughly that style a lot in the Netherlands as well. In
Australia it's rarer.
In the big cities it is a good way to cram a lot of people in small
space. Much built when there was no transportation, cars not invented
yet, necessities in life in walking distance.
There was also a lot of ethnic neighborhoods. From where my
grandparents lived I could look up the street and see three Catholic >churches. I did not realize they had actual names as they were referred
to as the Polish Church, Irish church and the German church.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
https://i.postimg.cc/QxbqpGzZ/Thinking.gif
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 18:43:38 +0000, flood of sins wrote:
it's a good thing the place i get my favorite take out wings
from is 5 minutes from home. i'm there when they come out of the
fryer and they're still piping hot when i get home.
we rarely go to bars, never have frequented them. though once a
year we do hit up the Anchor Bar in downtown Buffalo for wings
and pizza. they do a most excellent bison burger too.
I have seen a movie about Buffalo, NY. They're crazy about wings and
it's the debt collection center of the US. It's an interesting place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgsb722XWls
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:40:32 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I'd think doing them in the air fryer would pretty much
After heart surgery I had a session with a cardiac dietitian who told me
I should never eat wings. She explained about the about of fat in the
wings, the fat they are fried in, the likelihood of trans fats.
eliminate the fat in the wings plus they'd only get a
spritz of fat to crisp and brown them. Any fat in the
wings would drip off and this is assuming no breading
on the wings as well. Just do them like the ones in
Leo's photo. Naked but spiced up.
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close.
Sure. If your taste buds are incapable of detecting onion, garlic,
and herbs.
Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
MSG has no flavor.
People still consume margarine?
MSG has no flavor.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:40:32 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I'd think doing them in the air fryer would pretty much
After heart surgery I had a session with a cardiac dietitian who told me
I should never eat wings. She explained about the about of fat in the
wings, the fat they are fried in, the likelihood of trans fats.
eliminate the fat in the wings plus they'd only get a
spritz of fat to crisp and brown them. Any fat in the
wings would drip off and this is assuming no breading
on the wings as well. Just do them like the ones in
Leo's photo. Naked but spiced up.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 18:43:38 +0000, flood of sins wrote:
it's a good thing the place i get my favorite take out wings
from is 5 minutes from home. i'm there when they come out of the
fryer and they're still piping hot when i get home.
we rarely go to bars, never have frequented them. though once a
year we do hit up the Anchor Bar in downtown Buffalo for wings
and pizza. they do a most excellent bison burger too.
I have seen a movie about Buffalo, NY. They're crazy about wings and
it's the debt collection center of the US. It's an interesting place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgsb722XWls
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
MSG has no flavor.
umami is a flavor...
On 2025-04-15 5:15 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:40:32 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I'd think doing them in the air fryer would pretty much
After heart surgery I had a session with a cardiac dietitian who told me >>> I should never eat wings. She explained about the about of fat in the
wings, the fat they are fried in, the likelihood of trans fats.
eliminate the fat in the wings plus they'd only get a
spritz of fat to crisp and brown them. Any fat in the
wings would drip off and this is assuming no breading
on the wings as well. Just do them like the ones in
Leo's photo. Naked but spiced up.
The thing about fat and chicken wings is that the fat in chicken in
under the skin and there is a lot of skin for unit volume. Maybe
pricking them would render fat out to help crisp it up. Maybe I should
try it in my new air fryer. There is more room to spread them out than
there had been in the old one.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
MSG has no flavor.
umami is a flavor...
On 2025-04-15 5:28 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
I have seen a movie about Buffalo, NY. They're crazy about wings and
it's the debt collection center of the US. It's an interesting place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgsb722XWls
What a coincidence. I just watched that movie a couple days ago. While
it is about Buffalo, most of the movie was actually filmed in Toronto
and Hamilton.
On 2025-04-15, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
You've confused me for someone who gives a shit. I usually order
boneless Buffalo wings.
peeve of the day:
boneless chicken wings are chicken wings in the same way large
language models are artificially intelligent.
Ah, I knew I'd trigger somebody.
Hang on. I've got to get my Sawzall and my Skilsaw. Both are
Makita brand.
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-15 5:28 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
I have seen a movie about Buffalo, NY. They're crazy about wings and
it's the debt collection center of the US. It's an interesting place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgsb722XWls
What a coincidence. I just watched that movie a couple days ago. While
it is about Buffalo, most of the movie was actually filmed in Toronto
and Hamilton.
Dear Canada;
Please annex New York State.
That is all.
Thank you.
On 2025-04-16, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-15 5:28 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
I have seen a movie about Buffalo, NY. They're crazy about wings and
it's the debt collection center of the US. It's an interesting place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgsb722XWls
What a coincidence. I just watched that movie a couple days ago. While
it is about Buffalo, most of the movie was actually filmed in Toronto
and Hamilton.
Dear Canada;
Please annex New York State.
That is all.
Thank you.
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
Now if someo
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters.
On 2025-04-15 5:15 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:40:32 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
After heart surgery I had a session with a cardiac dietitian who told me >>> I should never eat wings. She explained about the about of fat in the
wings, the fat they are fried in, the likelihood of trans fats.
I'd think doing them in the air fryer would pretty much
eliminate the fat in the wings plus they'd only get a
spritz of fat to crisp and brown them. Any fat in the
wings would drip off and this is assuming no breading
on the wings as well. Just do them like the ones in
Leo's photo. Naked but spiced up.
The thing about fat and chicken wings is that the fat in chicken in
under the skin and there is a lot of skin for unit volume. Maybe
pricking them would render fat out to help crisp it up. Maybe I should
try it in my new air fryer. There is more room to spread them out than
there had been in the old one.
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters.
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
does the chain even exist now? there aren't any in WNY i am aware
of.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:19:02 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
https://i.postimg.cc/QxbqpGzZ/Thinking.gif
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
As in: how much can you change and still call it by its original name?
that triggers me too. have been cleaning out my late fathers
workshop and happened across just that. a whole bunch of
perfectly good power tools with useless irreplaceable batteries
i had to drop off at e-waste facilities.
On 4/16/2025 9:06 AM, flood of sins wrote:
that triggers me too. have been cleaning out my late fathers
workshop and happened across just that. a whole bunch of
perfectly good power tools with useless irreplaceable batteries
i had to drop off at e-waste facilities.
There are places that rebuild the battery packs. IIRC, about half the
price of a new one.
On 2025-04-15 5:28 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 18:43:38 +0000, flood of sins wrote:
it's a good thing the place i get my favorite take out wings
from is 5 minutes from home. i'm there when they come out of the
fryer and they're still piping hot when i get home.
we rarely go to bars, never have frequented them. though once a
year we do hit up the Anchor Bar in downtown Buffalo for wings
and pizza. they do a most excellent bison burger too.
I have seen a movie about Buffalo, NY. They're crazy about wings and
it's the debt collection center of the US. It's an interesting place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgsb722XWls
What a coincidence. I just watched that movie a couple days ago. While
it is about Buffalo, most of the movie was actually filmed in Toronto
and Hamilton.
On 2025-04-16 9:51 a.m., flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters.
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
does the chain even exist now? there aren't any in WNY i am aware
of.
According to the store locator I looked at there have been only three in
NY state. They applied for Chapter One recently.
On 2025-04-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
MSG has no flavor.
umami is a flavor...
Sure. But can you tell whether it came from MSG or something else?
On 2025-04-16 8:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
You can have firearms here. What you cannot do is carry handguns around.
You can't use them for self defense except under very rare
circumstances. Now if someone would just tell the criminals that.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:24:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:19:02 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
https://i.postimg.cc/QxbqpGzZ/Thinking.gif
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
As in: how much can you change and still call it by its original name?
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor component of
ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is just thinned down mayo. >Americans crave umami - they just don't realize it. Of course, you never >heard it from me.
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters.
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
does the chain even exist now? there aren't any in WNY i am aware
of.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
MSG has no flavor.
umami is a flavor...
Sure. But can you tell whether it came from MSG or something else?
why not, i know where it comes from via the ingredients
i use.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:24:26 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 4/16/2025 9:06 AM, flood of sins wrote:
that triggers me too. have been cleaning out my late fathers
workshop and happened across just that. a whole bunch of
perfectly good power tools with useless irreplaceable batteries
i had to drop off at e-waste facilities.
There are places that rebuild the battery packs. IIRC, about half the
price of a new one.
I have done that. It requires soldering a dozen or so NiMH cells
together in the required configuration. It's something that sounds like
it could be fun but isn't.
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-16 8:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
You can have firearms here. What you cannot do is carry handguns around.
You can't use them for self defense except under very rare
circumstances. Now if someone would just tell the criminals that.
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
OTOH, DJT has a talent for bringing people together. People like the
Chinese and everybody in the world. Well, except for Americans, of
course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzhwNq1V894s
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
You've confused me for someone who gives a shit. I usually order
boneless Buffalo wings.
peeve of the day:
boneless chicken wings are chicken wings in the same way large
language models are artificially intelligent.
Ah, I knew I'd trigger somebody.
glad i could oblige. :)
Hang on. I've got to get my Sawzall and my Skilsaw. Both are
Makita brand.
Milwaukee Sawzall in my tool crib. the real deal. Ryobi skilsaw.
not the real deal. is the only Ryobi tool i have so it's called
the Ryobi saw. i'm glad i got both in the early 90s when good
quality tools were reasonably priced. will never need to replace
them and never have to deal with battery obsolescence.
that triggers me too. have been cleaning out my late fathers
workshop and happened across just that. a whole bunch of
perfectly good power tools with useless irreplaceable batteries
i had to drop off at e-waste facilities.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:05:48 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:24:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:19:02 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
https://i.postimg.cc/QxbqpGzZ/Thinking.gif
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
As in: how much can you change and still call it by its original name?
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor component of
ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is just thinned down mayo. >>Americans crave umami - they just don't realize it. Of course, you never >>heard it from me.
One word: tomatoes.
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-16 8:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
You can have firearms here. What you cannot do is carry handguns around.
You can't use them for self defense except under very rare
circumstances. Now if someone would just tell the criminals that.
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
On 2025-04-16 2:20 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-16 8:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
You can have firearms here. What you cannot do is carry handguns around. >>> You can't use them for self defense except under very rare
circumstances. Now if someone would just tell the criminals that.
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
Do you have so much fear of crime that you feel a need to be armed in
public? That's a shame. Most of us like the idea that we don't have to
worry about a lot of people walking around in public with sidearms.
On 4/16/2025 3:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-16 2:20 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-16 8:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
You can have firearms here. What you cannot do is carry handguns
around.
You can't use them for self defense except under very rare
circumstances. Now if someone would just tell the criminals that.
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
Do you have so much fear of crime that you feel a need to be armed in
public? That's a shame. Most of us like the idea that we don't have to
worry about a lot of people walking around in public with sidearms.
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and killed a
13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad guy
with a gun. Where is he though?
Tomatoes are lightweights in their glutamate content. Get yourself some
soy sauce or oyster sauce if you want to up your umami game. I got some Takesan Kishibori shoyu because it's supposed to be a great shoyu. It
tastes alright but it's more intense than da Hawaiians like. It would probably go great with some sushi/sashimi so I'm going to have to find
me some.
The current price on Amazon is a couple of bucks more than when I
ordered it a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for nothing DJT!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004XX1NKQ
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 18:22:03 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:05:48 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:24:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:19:02 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
https://i.postimg.cc/QxbqpGzZ/Thinking.gif
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk and
some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes like it
contains a heavy dose of MSG.
As in: how much can you change and still call it by its original name?
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor component of
ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is just thinned down mayo. >>>Americans crave umami - they just don't realize it. Of course, you never >>>heard it from me.
One word: tomatoes.
Tomatoes are lightweights in their glutamate content. Get yourself some
soy sauce or oyster sauce if you want to up your umami game. I got some >Takesan Kishibori shoyu because it's supposed to be a great shoyu. It
tastes alright but it's more intense than da Hawaiians like. It would >probably go great with some sushi/sashimi so I'm going to have to find
me some.
The current price on Amazon is a couple of bucks more than when I
ordered it a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for nothing DJT!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004XX1NKQ
On 4/16/2025 3:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Do you have so much fear of crime that you feel a need to be armed in
public? That's a shame. Most of us like the idea that we don't have to
worry about a lot of people walking around in public with sidearms.
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and killed a
13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad guy
with a gun. Where is he though?
On 2025-04-16 2:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and killed
a 13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad guy
with a gun. Where is he though?
And what happens when the good guy turns bad?
On 2025-04-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
MSG has no flavor.
umami is a flavor...
Sure. But can you tell whether it came from MSG or something else?
why not, i know where it comes from via the ingredients
i use.
Could you tell where the umami came from if you didn't have
access to an ingredients list?
On 2025-04-16 2:20 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-16 8:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
You can have firearms here. What you cannot do is carry handguns around. >>> You can't use them for self defense except under very rare
circumstances. Now if someone would just tell the criminals that.
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
Do you have so much fear of crime that you feel a need to be armed in
public? That's a shame. Most of us like the idea that we don't have to
worry about a lot of people walking around in public with sidearms.
On 2025-04-16 4:27 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2025-04-16 2:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and killed
a 13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad guy
with a gun. Where is he though?
And what happens when the good guy turns bad?
Does that scare you as much as the guys who get guns with lots of
stopping power and just can't wait for the opportunity for protect themselves?
On 4/16/2025 3:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-16 2:20 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-16 8:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
You can have firearms here. What you cannot do is carry handguns
around.
You can't use them for self defense except under very rare
circumstances. Now if someone would just tell the criminals that.
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
Do you have so much fear of crime that you feel a need to be armed in
public? That's a shame. Most of us like the idea that we don't have to
worry about a lot of people walking around in public with sidearms.
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and killed a
13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad guy
with a gun. Where is he though?
On 2025-04-16 7:06 a.m., flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:I have a lot of Ryobi woodworking tools, bought as an inexpensive
On 2025-04-15, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
You've confused me for someone who gives a shit. I usually order
boneless Buffalo wings.
peeve of the day:
boneless chicken wings are chicken wings in the same way large
language models are artificially intelligent.
Ah, I knew I'd trigger somebody.
glad i could oblige. :)
Hang on. I've got to get my Sawzall and my Skilsaw. Both are
Makita brand.
Milwaukee Sawzall in my tool crib. the real deal. Ryobi skilsaw.
not the real deal. is the only Ryobi tool i have so it's called
the Ryobi saw. i'm glad i got both in the early 90s when good
quality tools were reasonably priced. will never need to replace
them and never have to deal with battery obsolescence.
that triggers me too. have been cleaning out my late fathers
workshop and happened across just that. a whole bunch of
perfectly good power tools with useless irreplaceable batteries
i had to drop off at e-waste facilities.
package many years ago. Now the Ni batteries don't hold a charge for
long and a Li replacement would cost more than the original package
price. In addition, the reverse/forward switch on the drill has
broken.
My son gave me a couple of Milwaukee M12 drills (one of them an angle
drill) and they certainly seem to be superior. I have just bought a
Milwaukee chainsaw and it seems to be superior to my Stihl gas one.
On 2025-04-16 4:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 4/16/2025 3:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Do you have so much fear of crime that you feel a need to be armed in
public? That's a shame. Most of us like the idea that we don't have
to worry about a lot of people walking around in public with sidearms.
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and killed
a 13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad guy
with a gun. Where is he though?
Our border guys often find guns in American cars coming over the border. There have been a couple cases where they claim that they forgot the gun
was there, or that is is their spouse's car and they didn't realize it
was there. Then there were the incidents where a car driver was killed
when their kid found their gun under the seat and a couple where a kid
in the seat of a shopping card found mommy's gun in her purse and accidentally shot mommy.
On 2025-04-16 3:00 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-16 4:27 p.m., Graham wrote:Aren't they the type that consider themselves the "good guys"?
On 2025-04-16 2:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and
killed a 13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad
guy with a gun. Where is he though?
And what happens when the good guy turns bad?
Does that scare you as much as the guys who get guns with lots of
stopping power and just can't wait for the opportunity for protect
themselves?
On 2025-04-16 2:20 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-16 8:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Dear Canada:
Please annex Michigan.
I'll donate to the "I can't live without my guns" relocation fund.
You can have firearms here. What you cannot do is carry handguns around. >>> You can't use them for self defense except under very rare
circumstances. Now if someone would just tell the criminals that.
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
Do you have so much fear of crime that you feel a need to be armed in
public? That's a shame. Most of us like the idea that we don't have to
worry about a lot of people walking around in public with sidearms.
On 2025-04-16 2:57 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Our border guys often find guns in American cars coming over the
border. There have been a couple cases where they claim that they
forgot the gun was there, or that is is their spouse's car and they
didn't realize it was there. Then there were the incidents where a car
driver was killed when their kid found their gun under the seat and a
couple where a kid in the seat of a shopping card found mommy's gun in
her purse and accidentally shot mommy.
All the more reason to ban the bloody things. I see that Western
Australia is planning to ban semi-automatics.
On 2025-04-16 4:27 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2025-04-16 2:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and killed
a 13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad guy
with a gun. Where is he though?
And what happens when the good guy turns bad?
Does that scare you as much as the guys who get guns with lots of
stopping power and just can't wait for the opportunity for protect themselves?
On 2025-04-16 5:36 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2025-04-16 3:00 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-16 4:27 p.m., Graham wrote:Aren't they the type that consider themselves the "good guys"?
On 2025-04-16 2:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns.
Every night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot
and killed a 13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad
guy with a gun. Where is he though?
And what happens when the good guy turns bad?
Does that scare you as much as the guys who get guns with lots of
stopping power and just can't wait for the opportunity for protect
themselves?
Perhaps.... but as things stand in this country, they are not the people
who are causing problems. The vast majority of shootings and murders are
in a small number of demographics, and they are not the legally
licensed gun owners. They are the demographics that our government likes
to refer to as racialized and want to reduce impose reduced sentences
on. Some say they are over represented in the criminal justice system.
Some of us see them and being over represented in criminal incidents.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 21:00:55 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-16 4:27 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2025-04-16 2:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and killed >>>> a 13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad guy
with a gun. Where is he though?
And what happens when the good guy turns bad?
Does that scare you as much as the guys who get guns with lots of
stopping power and just can't wait for the opportunity for protect
themselves?
Some people are just aching for an excuse to shoot somebody.
On 2025-04-16 3:00 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-16 4:27 p.m., Graham wrote:Aren't they the type that consider themselves the "good guys"?
On 2025-04-16 2:10 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Florida wants to make it easier for 18 year olds to buy guns. Every
night on the news there is a shooting. A 14 year old shot and
killed a 13 year old.
Stupid gun owners leave them in the car for kids to steal too.
There is that BS line that a good guy with a gun can stop the bad
guy with a gun. Where is he though?
And what happens when the good guy turns bad?
Does that scare you as much as the guys who get guns with lots of
stopping power and just can't wait for the opportunity for protect
themselves?
I used to waste some after making pancakes. Then I bought the powdered buttermilk and added that right in and just added water. Could not tell
any difference.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 16:40:32 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I translated that instruction to meaning I could only have them once a >>year. I did that for a few years. Then one year I went out for beer and >>wings after a kayaking session. They were horrible. They would have
been disappointing at the best of times but even more so when that was
my wig dose for the year. I have to admit it reduced my craving for wings.
AI:
“Wig” can be used in pop culture (especially online) to mean
something shocking or amazing (like “That performance was so good,
my wig flew off!”), but “wig dose” isn't a common phrase even in
that slang world.
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
On 2025-04-15, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
I used to waste some after making pancakes. Then I bought the powdered
buttermilk and added that right in and just added water. Could not tell
any difference.
Buttermilk tastes like liquid cottage cheese if you salt and pepper it. >Having said that, and although I like it, I generally forget to use >buttermilk as a drink, and what's left rots in the fridge.
I can do better!
On 2025-04-15, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 16:40:32 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I translated that instruction to meaning I could only have them once a >>>year. I did that for a few years. Then one year I went out for beer and >>>wings after a kayaking session. They were horrible. They would have
been disappointing at the best of times but even more so when that was
my wig dose for the year. I have to admit it reduced my craving for wings.
AI:
“Wig” can be used in pop culture (especially online) to mean
something shocking or amazing (like “That performance was so good,
my wig flew off!”), but “wig dose” isn't a common phrase even in
that slang world.
Dave forgot an "n". Don't wig out! Yup, that's a real expression.
On 2025-04-16, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
Even if there is only one waitress at Hooters, there are two reasons you >should go.
On my screen, it looks like a dog turd with eyes. Was that what you
wanted to convey?
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 18:20:42 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
I've never even seen a gun.
Legal here and should be. Protection of your home is OK, it is the
road rage, gangs, and getting PO'd at a neighbor that is wrong.
Dave pointed out some of the stupidity of gun owners and kids shooting parents and siblings because of poor handling and storing of firearms.
On 2025-04-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 18:20:42 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
I've never even seen a gun.
I own quite a few guns. Some, I inherited from my father. If a cop
asked, "Do you have any weapons in the house?", I would say, "Nope, but
I have rifles, shotguns and knives".
I consider a weapon to be a pistol or military-style rifle, even though
my guns will kill. So will a pair of hands, a rock or a fireplace poker.
The World is dangerous. Try not to piss people off, in person.
It's OK, here. ;)
Highest in umami:
1. Kombu
2. Parmesan cheese
3. Tomatoes
4. Mushrooms
So if you want lots of umami, choose between seaweed and pizza. I know
what I'm going for :)
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:31:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Highest in umami:
1. Kombu
2. Parmesan cheese
3. Tomatoes
4. Mushrooms
So if you want lots of umami, choose between seaweed and pizza. I know
what I'm going for :)
My aim is to have umami in the dishes that I make but I don't do that by >using tomatoes or mushrooms or other natural foods. I just use
umami-rich flavor enhancers. These are mostly fermented ingredients like
soy sauce, or miso, or oyster sauce or fish sauce, or etc., etc., etc.
Mostly, Western cooks aren't that interested in umami-rich dishes. Umami
rich dishes are mostly random and accidental. Foods like pizza, or a
Denver omelette, or a Vegemite sandwich.
My daughter made a umami rich salmon dish tonight. It has imitation
crab, salmon, nori, and Japan mayo. Tasty.
On 2025-04-16, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
Legal here and should be. Protection of your home is OK, it is the
road rage, gangs, and getting PO'd at a neighbor that is wrong.
I agree. Punishment should be far more Draconian than it is. I guarantee
that crime would go down. I am outraged with people stealing from stores
and walking out the door in full view of customers, employees and
camera with little to no consequence.
Our Country broke on or about March 15, 2020, and it has yet to recover.
On 2025-04-15, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On my screen, it looks like a dog turd with eyes. Was that what you
wanted to convey?
Bingo!
On 2025-04-16, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
Legal here and should be. Protection of your home is OK, it is the
road rage, gangs, and getting PO'd at a neighbor that is wrong.
I agree. Punishment should be far more Draconian than it is. I guarantee
that crime would go down. I am outraged with people stealing from stores
and walking out the door in full view of customers, employees and
camera with little to no consequence.
Our Country broke on or about March 15, 2020, and it has yet to recover.
On 2025-04-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 18:20:42 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I should have been more specific. "I can't live under Canadian
gun laws."
I've never even seen a gun.
I own quite a few guns. Some, I inherited from my father. If a cop
asked, "Do you have any weapons in the house?", I would say, "Nope, but
I have rifles, shotguns and knives".
I consider a weapon to be a pistol or military-style rifle, even though
my guns will kill.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 03:02:24 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:31:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Highest in umami:
1. Kombu
2. Parmesan cheese
3. Tomatoes
4. Mushrooms
So if you want lots of umami, choose between seaweed and pizza. I know
what I'm going for :)
My aim is to have umami in the dishes that I make but I don't do that by >>using tomatoes or mushrooms or other natural foods. I just use
umami-rich flavor enhancers. These are mostly fermented ingredients like >>soy sauce, or miso, or oyster sauce or fish sauce, or etc., etc., etc.
Mostly, Western cooks aren't that interested in umami-rich dishes. Umami >>rich dishes are mostly random and accidental. Foods like pizza, or a
Denver omelette, or a Vegemite sandwich.
My daughter made a umami rich salmon dish tonight. It has imitation
crab, salmon, nori, and Japan mayo. Tasty.
God knows what's in imitation crab, probably fish waste products,
farmed salmon is Frankenfood
and Japanese mayo's probably full of
cheap oil and "natural flavor".
On 2025-04-17, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
God knows what's in imitation crab, probably fish waste products,
Alaska Pollock, Water, Corn Starch, Sugar, Sorbitol, Contains 2% or Less
of: Natural and Artificial Flavor (Extracts of Blue Crab, Snow Crab,
Lobster, and Alaska Pollock), Refined Fish Oil* (Anchovy, Sardine), Rice
Wine (Water, Rice, Koji), Egg Whies Modified Tapioca Starch, Sea Salt, >Potassium Chloride, Disodium Inosinate, Sodium Pyrophosphate, Soy
Lecithin, Titanium Dioxide (For Color), Carmine (For Color),
Canthaxanthin (For Color). *Adds A Trivial Amount of Fat
farmed salmon is Frankenfood
Not all farmed salmon is GMO.
and Japanese mayo's probably full of
cheap oil and "natural flavor".
Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil), Egg Yolk, Vinegar, Salt,
Monosodium Glutamate, Spice, Natural Flavor
On 2025-04-16, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
Even if there is only one waitress at Hooters, there are two reasons you should go.
On 2025-04-16, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters.
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
The wings have been fine at every Hooters I've been to, and
their oysters on the half shell were surprisingly good. Not
a bad burger, but IIRC their fries were weak.
does the chain even exist now? there aren't any in WNY i am aware
of.
It exists, but it's in Chapter 11. I think they're going to close
about a third of their restaurants. Or maybe two thirds.
We don't have Hooters here in Ann Arbor. The womynists would
picket with a vengeance.
On 2025-04-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I own quite a few guns. Some, I inherited from my father. If a cop
asked, "Do you have any weapons in the house?", I would say, "Nope, but
I have rifles, shotguns and knives".
I consider a weapon to be a pistol or military-style rifle, even though
my guns will kill.
I'm pretty sure the cop would disagree.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:14:37 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
God knows what's in imitation crab, probably fish waste products,
Alaska Pollock, Water, Corn Starch, Sugar, Sorbitol, Contains 2% or Less >>of: Natural and Artificial Flavor (Extracts of Blue Crab, Snow Crab, >>Lobster, and Alaska Pollock), Refined Fish Oil* (Anchovy, Sardine), Rice >>Wine (Water, Rice, Koji), Egg Whies Modified Tapioca Starch, Sea Salt, >>Potassium Chloride, Disodium Inosinate, Sodium Pyrophosphate, Soy
Lecithin, Titanium Dioxide (For Color), Carmine (For Color),
Canthaxanthin (For Color). *Adds A Trivial Amount of Fat
Amen.
farmed salmon is Frankenfood
Not all farmed salmon is GMO.
It's not just about GMO. I wasn't even thinking about GMO. I saw a documentary about how salmon are farmed. No thanks.
On 2025-04-16, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-16, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters.
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
The wings have been fine at every Hooters I've been to, and
their oysters on the half shell were surprisingly good. Not
a bad burger, but IIRC their fries were weak.
iirc, the wings were soggy / mushy / almost slimy.
there are several
pizza shops which make them that way in the Rochester area.
the one i was at was a few miles down the road from RIT. from
what i observed during the couple hours i was there, those poor
college girls sure took a lot of abuse from pervy middle aged
dudes. girls in strip clubs get treated way better they did. :/
On 2025-04-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
the one i was at was a few miles down the road from RIT. from
what i observed during the couple hours i was there, those poor
college girls sure took a lot of abuse from pervy middle aged
dudes. girls in strip clubs get treated way better they did. :/
RIT isn't The University of Michigan. FFS, there was a Women's
Studies program 50 years ago when I attended.
There was a girl in one of my university classes who worked evenings as
a stripper. I know there are people who consider jobs like that to be exploitation and demeaning to women but damn she made good money. This
was in the early 70s. I had had a summer job in an alloy smelting plant
where the heat, the noise and the dust was tough to deal with, plus the extreme physical exertion of the actual work. I was making $4.25 an
hour, which was pretty good money at the time. She was working about 4 hours a night doing 3-4 sets and getting $350 a week. She was making
more than twice as much per week, for times as much per hour, than I
was. And she was the one being exploited?
On 2025-04-16, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-16, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
I ate Buffalo wings pretty frequently when I lived in a town that
had a Hooters.
i was at a Hooters once. Christmas party for a little tool shop
(< 10 employees) i worked at for a while. my son and i both
thought the wings were disgusting. if i was paying i would have
sent them back and asked for something else on the menu. perhaps
it was just a bad day in the kitchen there, but that was my one
experience at Hooters and the reason i never went back.
The wings have been fine at every Hooters I've been to, and
their oysters on the half shell were surprisingly good. Not
a bad burger, but IIRC their fries were weak.
iirc, the wings were soggy / mushy / almost slimy. there are several
pizza shops which make them that way in the Rochester area. that is disgusting. i had an employer which would spring for pizza and wings
for employee appreciation every few months and got them from one of
said pizza shops. the pizza was ok. every time i tried a wing it was
the same thing, take a bite and toss it in the garbage. like way
were undercooked. wings should be crispy on the outside without
being battered or coated, and juicy inside. anything less is
nasty.
does the chain even exist now? there aren't any in WNY i am aware
of.
It exists, but it's in Chapter 11. I think they're going to close
about a third of their restaurants. Or maybe two thirds.
We don't have Hooters here in Ann Arbor. The womynists would
picket with a vengeance.
the one i was at was a few miles down the road from RIT. from
what i observed during the couple hours i was there, those poor
college girls sure took a lot of abuse from pervy middle aged
dudes. girls in strip clubs get treated way better they did. :/
On 4/17/2025 10:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I was making
$4.25 an hour, which was pretty good money at the time. She was
working about 4 hours a night doing 3-4 sets and getting $350 a week.
She was making more than twice as much per week, for times as much per
hour, than I was. And she was the one being exploited?
Dave, you missed an opportunity. You should have become a stripper and
made that kind of money.
The best wings I ever had was at McDonald's i.e., Mighty Wings.
McDonald's tried selling wings in the states 11 years ago but it was a complete fiasco. Beats me why there was such a negative reaction to them
- some say they were too spicy. It was the only thing at McDonald's that
I could eat without feeling depressed. The wings made me happy.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
MSG has no flavor.
umami is a flavor...
On 2025-04-17 10:25 a.m., Ed P wrote:
On 4/17/2025 10:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I was making $4.25 an hour, which was pretty good money at the
time. She was working about 4 hours a night doing 3-4 sets and
getting $350 a week. She was making more than twice as much per
week, for times as much per hour, than I was. And she was the one
being exploited?
Dave, you missed an opportunity. You should have become a stripper
and made that kind of money.
I guess I may have missed my calling. Unfortunately, I lacked the
amazing natural gifts this girl had. She was truly blessed with a
wonderful body, looks and intelligence.
On 2025-04-17 5:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I own quite a few guns. Some, I inherited from my father. If a cop
asked, "Do you have any weapons in the house?", I would say, "Nope, but
I have rifles, shotguns and knives".
I consider a weapon to be a pistol or military-style rifle, even though
my guns will kill.
I'm pretty sure the cop would disagree.
A cop would be pretty pissed off if someone told him he had no weapons
when he is actually well armed.
On 2025-04-17, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:14:37 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
God knows what's in imitation crab, probably fish waste products,
Alaska Pollock, Water, Corn Starch, Sugar, Sorbitol, Contains 2% or Less >>>of: Natural and Artificial Flavor (Extracts of Blue Crab, Snow Crab, >>>Lobster, and Alaska Pollock), Refined Fish Oil* (Anchovy, Sardine), Rice >>>Wine (Water, Rice, Koji), Egg Whies Modified Tapioca Starch, Sea Salt, >>>Potassium Chloride, Disodium Inosinate, Sodium Pyrophosphate, Soy >>>Lecithin, Titanium Dioxide (For Color), Carmine (For Color), >>>Canthaxanthin (For Color). *Adds A Trivial Amount of Fat
Amen.
farmed salmon is Frankenfood
Not all farmed salmon is GMO.
It's not just about GMO. I wasn't even thinking about GMO. I saw a
documentary about how salmon are farmed. No thanks.
"Franken" implies GMO.
On 2025-04-17 12:51 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
The best wings I ever had was at McDonald's i.e., Mighty Wings.
McDonald's tried selling wings in the states 11 years ago but it was a
complete fiasco. Beats me why there was such a negative reaction to them
- some say they were too spicy. It was the only thing at McDonald's that
I could eat without feeling depressed. The wings made me happy.
I feel sorry for you if the best wings you ever had were from McDs.
my wife got a white sauce recipe for bbq chicken from someone
who did a lot of chicken bbqs for fundraisers. hence we call it
fireman's chicken.
On 4/17/2025 1:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-17 10:25 a.m., Ed P wrote:
On 4/17/2025 10:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I was making $4.25 an hour, which was pretty good money at the
time. She was working about 4 hours a night doing 3-4 sets and
getting $350 a week. She was making more than twice as much per
week, for times as much per hour, than I was. And she was the one
being exploited?
Dave, you missed an opportunity. You should have become a stripper
and made that kind of money.
I guess I may have missed my calling. Unfortunately, I lacked the
amazing natural gifts this girl had. She was truly blessed with a
wonderful body, looks and intelligence.
Wings used to be a cheap meal or snack. I remember buying a 5 pound bag
of them at our local market for 5 cents a pound. In today's money, that
is about 50 cents. Since that guy in Buffalo screwed up the market they
are closer to $3. I just won't pay that.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:44:43 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/17/2025 1:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-17 10:25 a.m., Ed P wrote:
On 4/17/2025 10:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I was making $4.25 an hour, which was pretty good money at the
time. She was working about 4 hours a night doing 3-4 sets and
getting $350 a week. She was making more than twice as much per
week, for times as much per hour, than I was. And she was the one
being exploited?
Dave, you missed an opportunity. You should have become a stripper
and made that kind of money.
I guess I may have missed my calling. Unfortunately, I lacked the
amazing natural gifts this girl had. She was truly blessed with a
wonderful body, looks and intelligence.
Wings used to be a cheap meal or snack. I remember buying a 5 pound bag
of them at our local market for 5 cents a pound. In today's money, that
is about 50 cents. Since that guy in Buffalo screwed up the market they
are closer to $3. I just won't pay that.
Meat is murder and a strain on the environment. The more expensive it becomes, the better it is.
On 2025-04-17 12:51 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
The best wings I ever had was at McDonald's i.e., Mighty Wings.
McDonald's tried selling wings in the states 11 years ago but it was a
complete fiasco. Beats me why there was such a negative reaction to them
- some say they were too spicy. It was the only thing at McDonald's that
I could eat without feeling depressed. The wings made me happy.
I feel sorry for you if the best wings you ever had were from McDs.
Based on the lack of quality in their other foods I can't imagine their
wings being good. I have had wings in the home of Buffalo wings, the
Anchor bar and many of the others that jumped onto the wing mania.
There are a number of places on the Canadian side if the border, but
good wings are basically a Niagara thing. I have had wings at lots of
places on both sides of the border that call them Buffalo wings, but
they aren't much like the real deal.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:44:43 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/17/2025 1:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-17 10:25 a.m., Ed P wrote:
On 4/17/2025 10:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I was making $4.25 an hour, which was pretty good money at the
time. She was working about 4 hours a night doing 3-4 sets and
getting $350 a week. She was making more than twice as much per
week, for times as much per hour, than I was. And she was the one
being exploited?
Dave, you missed an opportunity. You should have become a stripper
and made that kind of money.
I guess I may have missed my calling. Unfortunately, I lacked the
amazing natural gifts this girl had. She was truly blessed with a
wonderful body, looks and intelligence.
Wings used to be a cheap meal or snack. I remember buying a 5 pound bag
of them at our local market for 5 cents a pound. In today's money, that
is about 50 cents. Since that guy in Buffalo screwed up the market they >>are closer to $3. I just won't pay that.
Meat is murder and a strain on the environment. The more expensive it becomes, the better it is.
On 4/17/2025 3:10 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:44:43 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/17/2025 1:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I guess I may have missed my calling. Unfortunately, I lacked the
amazing natural gifts this girl had. She was truly blessed with a
wonderful body, looks and intelligence.
Wings used to be a cheap meal or snack. I remember buying a 5 pound bag >>> of them at our local market for 5 cents a pound. In today's money, that >>> is about 50 cents. Since that guy in Buffalo screwed up the market they >>> are closer to $3. I just won't pay that.
Meat is murder and a strain on the environment. The more expensive it
becomes, the better it is.
But chickens don't fly. They can just amputate the wings.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:22:24 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
The dry packets are not available there in the saladProbably. Good stuff.
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
Or one could make ranch dressing from basic ingredients,
rather than relying on a packet. AIUI, buttermilk might
be tricky to find outside the US.
I believe supermarkets worldwide only sell imitation buttermilk
anymore. Not that I know the difference, because I never had either.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 9:35:17 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:22:24 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
The dry packets are not available there in the saladProbably. Good stuff.
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
Or one could make ranch dressing from basic ingredients,
rather than relying on a packet. AIUI, buttermilk might
be tricky to find outside the US.
I believe supermarkets worldwide only sell imitation buttermilk
anymore. Not that I know the difference, because I never had either.
I like to use nasty, spoiled, milk as a substitute for buttermilk. >Unfortunately, my family will throw away nasty, spoiled, milk or even
milk past the expiration date. I've been thwarted several times on my
plan to make pancakes by these scaredy cats dumping my pancake milk
supply down the drain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UTd98iMBok
In the documentary I saw, they showed a natural salmon and a farmed
salmon (no mention of GMO) side by side. The latter looked like a very
freaky version of the first. Not something you'd want to eat.
On 2025-04-17 5:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I own quite a few guns. Some, I inherited from my father. If a cop
asked, "Do you have any weapons in the house?", I would say, "Nope, but
I have rifles, shotguns and knives".
I consider a weapon to be a pistol or military-style rifle, even though
my guns will kill.
I'm pretty sure the cop would disagree.
A cop would be pretty pissed off if someone told him he had no weapons
when he is actually well armed.
There have been a number of incidents where the public was outraged
after a person was shot after brandished a replica gun of some type.
Cops are trained to be alert and to react quickly to threats. Most of
the time when cops get shot it is within seconds on initial contact.
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-17 9:21 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:Was she promiscuous? What was her name?
On 2025-04-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
the one i was at was a few miles down the road from RIT. from
what i observed during the couple hours i was there, those poor
college girls sure took a lot of abuse from pervy middle aged
dudes. girls in strip clubs get treated way better they did. :/
RIT isn't The University of Michigan. FFS, there was a Women's
Studies program 50 years ago when I attended.
There was a girl in one of my university classes who worked evenings
as a stripper. I know there are people who consider jobs like that
to be exploitation and demeaning to women but damn she made good
money. This was in the early 70s. I had had a summer job in an alloy
smelting plant where the heat, the noise and the dust was tough to
deal with, plus the extreme physical exertion of the actual work. I
was making $4.25 an hour, which was pretty good money at the time.
She was working about 4 hours a night doing 3-4 sets and getting
$350 a week. She was making more than twice as much per week, for
times as much per hour, than I was. And she was the one being
exploited?
On 2025-04-17 10:25 a.m., Ed P wrote:
On 4/17/2025 10:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
I was making $4.25 an hour, which was pretty good money at the
time. She was working about 4 hours a night doing 3-4 sets and
getting $350 a week. She was making more than twice as much per
week, for times as much per hour, than I was. And she was the one
being exploited?
Dave, you missed an opportunity. You should have become a stripper
and made that kind of money.
I guess I may have missed my calling. Unfortunately, I lacked the
amazing natural gifts this girl had. She was truly blessed with a
wonderful body, looks and intelligence.
On 2025-04-17, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In the documentary I saw, they showed a natural salmon and a farmed
salmon (no mention of GMO) side by side. The latter looked like a very
freaky version of the first. Not something you'd want to eat.
Were they the same species of salmon? Both _Salmo salar_ ?
https://www.thespruceeats.com/types-of-salmon-4098993
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 21:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In the documentary I saw, they showed a natural salmon and a farmed
salmon (no mention of GMO) side by side. The latter looked like a very
freaky version of the first. Not something you'd want to eat.
Were they the same species of salmon? Both _Salmo salar_ ?
https://www.thespruceeats.com/types-of-salmon-4098993
They were the same type. They showed them next to each other to show
the franken factor or the gollum factor if you prefer.
I like to use nasty, spoiled, milk as a substitute for buttermilk. Unfortunately, my family will throw away nasty, spoiled, milk or even
milk past the expiration date. I've been thwarted several times on my
plan to make pancakes by these scaredy cats dumping my pancake milk
supply down the drain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UTd98iMBok
On 2025-04-17, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:
my wife got a white sauce recipe for bbq chicken from someone
who did a lot of chicken bbqs for fundraisers. hence we call it
fireman's chicken.
More properly called Cornell Chicken: https://alumni.cornell.edu/cornellians/baker-chicken/
afaic, a kitchen isn't complete unless there's a jar of MSG
sitting next to the jar of Kosher salt. :)
On 2025-04-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
MSG has no flavor.
umami is a flavor...
Sure. But can you tell whether it came from MSG or something else?
why not, i know where it comes from via the ingredients
i use.
Could you tell where the umami came from if you didn't have
access to an ingredients list?
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-16, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
MSG has no flavor.
umami is a flavor...
Sure. But can you tell whether it came from MSG or something else?
why not, i know where it comes from via the ingredients
i use.
Could you tell where the umami came from if you didn't have
access to an ingredients list?
not completely, but this isn't something i usually have to
wonder about.
flood of sins wrote:
...
afaic, a kitchen isn't complete unless there's a jar of MSG
sitting next to the jar of Kosher salt. :)
lucky you don't react to it.
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 14:15:12 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay.
Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 14:15:12 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay. In China, >Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
In article <18de6a53ecf7c649a096551bdfa42ab7
@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100@yahoo.com says...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 14:15:12 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay.
In China,
Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
What a very American assumption.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay. In China, Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 18:17:50 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Is your obsession shifting from Hawaii to China or are you capable of
two?
Hawaii has close ties to China. The Chinese were the earliest group
brought to Hawaii to work in the plantations. These were men only and
were the lowest of the low economically. Chinese men would find partners
from another low status group - Hawaiian women. They were the only women
in Hawaii that would have them.
After WWII, the Chinese-Hawaiians became the most economically
prosperous group in Hawaii. These days, there are few Hawaiians in
Hawaii but a shitload of Chinese-Hawaiian-Americans in Hawaii. You just
think that I'm obsessed because you don't know a thing about the
Hawaiians or the Chinese. Ignorance is the name of your game.
On 2025-04-18, dsi1 wrote:
. In China, Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
The Chinese probably watched too much
'Beverly Hillbillies' & 'Gilligan's Island'.
On 2025-04-18, dsi1 wrote:
. In China, Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
The Chinese probably watched too much
'Beverly Hillbillies' & 'Gilligan's Island'.
Is your obsession shifting from Hawaii to China or are you capable of
two?
. In China, Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
On 2025-04-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Our Country broke on or about March 15, 2020, and it has yet to recover.
It was broken before that. I like June 17, 1994, when the country
watched OJ Simpson in the white Bronco.
On 2025-04-18, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
In article <18de6a53ecf7c649a096551bdfa42ab7
@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100@yahoo.com says...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 14:15:12 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay.
In China,
Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
What a very American assumption.
On the contrary. dsi1 is Hawaiian, not American.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:18:23 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-18, dsi1 wrote:
. In China, Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
The Chinese probably watched too much
'Beverly Hillbillies' & 'Gilligan's Island'.
The good news is that the Chinese no longer see the Americans as evil
White Devils. These days, Americans are seen as fat, lazy, stupid, and
slow.
Enough of politics. What's on your menu tonight? We're having leftover
pork ribs with BBQ sauce and RaR with broccoli. Oh, and I'm having a few beers. If you've read this far, thank you, but why?
On 2025-04-15, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
The dry packets are not available there in the salad
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
used >> to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and ifI am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I
there was a >> salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone
would need a >> packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to
make.
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
OMG. Several ingredients. The horror.
Mayo
Buttermilk
Salt
Pepper
Onion powder
Garlic powder
Parsley
Dill weed
I generally use fresh cilantro instead of dill (my husband dislikes
dill), fresh chives or green onion tops instead of onion powder, and
fresh garlic. But I'm an overachiever.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty mainstream.
The dry packets are not available there in the salad
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I
used to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if
there was a salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone
would need a packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to
make.
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
On 2025-04-15, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Wikipedia says buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, black pepper, and
herbs. I've never had buttermilk, but with those additions it sounds
good.
Yogurt can sub for buttermilk. It won't have quite the same
flavor, but it'll provide lactic acid. Most ranch recipes I've
seen have mayonnaise as well.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 9:34:41 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
OMG. Several ingredients. The horror.
Mayo
Buttermilk
Salt
Pepper
Onion powder
Garlic powder
Parsley
Dill weed
I generally use fresh cilantro instead of dill (my husband dislikes
dill), fresh chives or green onion tops instead of onion powder, and
fresh garlic. But I'm an overachiever.
There are few different, slightly different versions, but
basically all the same but not what you choose for yours.
Some have dried chives and occasionally some oregano or
marjoram. As you do yours, they can be customized to your
liking.
On 2025-04-15 1:12 a.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here.
I used to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if
there was a salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone
would need a packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to
make.
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranchYou still need the buttermilk and sour cream or mayo. I imagine the
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
packages have only the herbs and spices.
On 2025-04-15 9:43 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranchYou still need the buttermilk and sour cream or mayo. I imagine
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
the packages have only the herbs and spices.
You can get packages that require buttermilk and packages that have powdered buttermilk inside.
I assumed that if one were to make a buttermilk based dressing from
scratch one would start with real buttermilk. Heck, one of the
things that stops me from cooking with buttermilk is the waste of
buttermilk. This would allow us to make a batch of buttermilk
pancakes and then use the leftovers for dressing.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
used to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if
there was a salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone
would need a packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to
make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
It's often a matter of not wanting to have an extensive spice stock, so sometimes it makes sense to get a blend.
It's often the disorganized kitchen person who finds this daunting: https://www.simplyscratch.com/homemade-ranch-dressing-mix/
But reality, you'd make this in sizable batches and store in airtight container. You might make 6months worth at a shot. Doing it that way
is both a time and money saver.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:24:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:19:02 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk
and some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes
like it contains a heavy dose of MSG.
https://i.postimg.cc/QxbqpGzZ/Thinking.gif
As in: how much can you change and still call it by its original
name?
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor component of
ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is just thinned down mayo. Americans crave umami - they just don't realize it. Of course, you
never heard it from me.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
It's often a matter of not wanting to have an extensive spice stock, so sometimes it makes sense to get a blend.
I thought he was just an angry half breed (japanese and white mix) ?
Damn, is uncle Tojo REALLY an aboriginal hawaiian?
Maybe I owe him an apology for neglecting his high honor!
I'll make good on it if he really is one of da real hawaiians.
They should be worshiped, not denigrated.
I like a little basil and peruvian chile lime. Yes, lots of variations.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:18:23 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-18, dsi1 wrote:
. In China, Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
The Chinese probably watched too much
'Beverly Hillbillies' & 'Gilligan's Island'.
The good news is that the Chinese no longer see the Americans as evil
White Devils. These days, Americans are seen as fat, lazy, stupid, and
slow.
Carol wrote:
It's often a matter of not wanting to have an extensive spice stock, so
sometimes it makes sense to get a blend.
It's often the disorganized kitchen person who finds this daunting:
https://www.simplyscratch.com/homemade-ranch-dressing-mix/
But reality, you'd make this in sizable batches and store in airtight
container. You might make 6months worth at a shot. Doing it that way
is both a time and money saver.
You old sailors do tend to cook stuff up by the 55 gallon drum.
On 2025-04-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I own quite a few guns. Some, I inherited from my father. If a cop
asked, "Do you have any weapons in the house?", I would say, "Nope, but
I have rifles, shotguns and knives".
I consider a weapon to be a pistol or military-style rifle, even though
my guns will kill.
I'm pretty sure the cop would disagree.
On 2025-04-18 7:47 p.m., Carol wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
It's often a matter of not wanting to have an extensive spice stock, so
sometimes it makes sense to get a blend.
I am not sure I follow that. A spice blend is, by definition, a mixture
of certain spices. Each of the components is usually something a decent cook would have on hand anyway, so it makes good sense to me to have the component herbs and spices and to simply add those rather than to have
to go out and buy an much more expensive mixture.
I can't help but to think of seeing cinnamon sugar in the spice shelf at
a local grocery store and the per unit cost of the stuff was more than
per unit cost of cinnamon, and the mixture was only one part cinnamon to
3-4 parts sugar. Rip Off.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:20:11 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 18:17:50 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Is your obsession shifting from Hawaii to China or are you capable of
two?
Hawaii has close ties to China. The Chinese were the earliest group
brought to Hawaii to work in the plantations. These were men only and
were the lowest of the low economically. Chinese men would find partners >>from another low status group - Hawaiian women. They were the only women
in Hawaii that would have them.
After WWII, the Chinese-Hawaiians became the most economically
prosperous group in Hawaii. These days, there are few Hawaiians in
Hawaii but a shitload of Chinese-Hawaiian-Americans in Hawaii. You just >>think that I'm obsessed because you don't know a thing about the
Hawaiians or the Chinese. Ignorance is the name of your game.
You have a psychological need for non-white hero figures and you've
now found them in the Chinese. Ni hao and enjoy!
dsi1 is just another subject that you like to yammer on and on about yet
know nothing of. I'll add dsi1 to the list of Americans, Hawaiians,
Chinese, cooking, and foods. I suppose psychology should be thrown in
there too. It's quite a resume of ignorance.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 4:59:08 +0000, gm wrote:
HAPPY HAPPY Holy Good Friday to ALL...!!!
Dinner tonight was good Friday meatloaf.
What's so good or happy about good Friday? Nuttin.
HAPPY HAPPY Holy Good Friday to ALL...!!!
On 2025-04-17, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Our Country broke on or about March 15, 2020, and it has yet to recover.
It was broken before that. I like June 17, 1994, when the country
watched OJ Simpson in the white Bronco.
You're too young. The Country really broke in 1964, when the "Great
Society" was created and immediately started to fail. The government
solution was throw more taxpayer money at it, grow "programs" and
the government at the same time and regulate real private-sector jobs
out of existence.
However, 2020 crippled our food and supply lines, and they're kind of important. I just didn't think far enough back in time.
Remember, there is no government money, other than what they print. The
rest is raked from the taxpayer or borrowed. What they print devalues
what already exists. The Fed doesn't do its job. Go DOGE! It's been a
long time coming. What they've found is horrifying. More! More!
The private sector, including you and me, has been under a government microscope since I graduated from high school. Now, it's their turn.
I won't be able to fly after, what, May 15th? So what? Screw 'em.
Wait! I can fly privately like AOC and Bernie! Oligarchy! Oligarchy!
Get the word out and check the Bat Signal every night for next weeks
"word of rage".
Enough of politics. What's on your menu tonight? We're having leftover
pork ribs with BBQ sauce and RaR with broccoli. Oh, and I'm having a few beers. If you've read this far, thank you, but why?
On 4/18/2025 8:01 PM, Carol wrote:
I like a little basil and peruvian chile lime. Yes, lots of variations.
Never heard of it. Sounds interesting.
Chili lime seasoning with a twist of Peruvian aji amarillos (yellow
chile peppers). Inspired by Peruvian cooking, this chili-lime spice
blend combines authentic Peruvian flavors with the classic zesty taste
of spicy chili lime. Use to season chicken, steak or seafood like
shrimp, and salmon. Sprinkle on fruit, or rim micheladas and margaritas.
Try these Peruvian spices with your empanada or tamales recipes.
https://www.savoryspiceshop.com/products/peruvian-chile-lime-seasoning?srsltid=AfmBOorl42Wm5EA9LUaSAeSIl6kzjmVCSYY-SNQyJxdGWhejjhDQK8E3
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:28:38 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:20:11 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 18:17:50 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Is your obsession shifting from Hawaii to China or are you capable of
two?
Hawaii has close ties to China. The Chinese were the earliest group >>>brought to Hawaii to work in the plantations. These were men only and >>>were the lowest of the low economically. Chinese men would find partners >>>from another low status group - Hawaiian women. They were the only women >>>in Hawaii that would have them.
After WWII, the Chinese-Hawaiians became the most economically
prosperous group in Hawaii. These days, there are few Hawaiians in
Hawaii but a shitload of Chinese-Hawaiian-Americans in Hawaii. You just >>>think that I'm obsessed because you don't know a thing about the >>>Hawaiians or the Chinese. Ignorance is the name of your game.
You have a psychological need for non-white hero figures and you've
now found them in the Chinese. Ni hao and enjoy!
That's a nutty thing to say. The people I trust most happen to be haole. >These are people that I rely on for advice. My brother-in-laws are
modern cowboys. I think they're amazing people. My sister-in-law said
she saw "A Complete Unknown" on the flight over here. I told her that
the story of her brothers picking up Dylan, who was hitchhiking to >Pittsburgh, would make a better movie. She agreed. It has been a great >pleasure of mine being their brother-in-law.
I do have a Chinese friend that I consult when I have questions about
plants or animals. He might be smarter than I, unfortunately, he has
mental problems. Heck, maybe all Chinese people are like him.
dsi1 is just another subject that you like to yammer on and on about yet
know nothing of. I'll add dsi1 to the list of Americans, Hawaiians,
Chinese, cooking, and foods. I suppose psychology should be thrown in
there too. It's quite a resume of ignorance.
As it goes, the town that I grew up in was pretty much the haole capital
of the state of Hawaii. A lot of them were military brats from the
airbase next door. That was fine with me.
On 2025-04-18, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
However, 2020 crippled our food and supply lines, and they're kind of
important. I just didn't think far enough back in time.
Remember, there is no government money, other than what they print. The
rest is raked from the taxpayer or borrowed. What they print devalues
what already exists. The Fed doesn't do its job. Go DOGE! It's been a
long time coming. What they've found is horrifying. More! More!
The private sector, including you and me, has been under a government
microscope since I graduated from high school. Now, it's their turn.
I won't be able to fly after, what, May 15th? So what? Screw 'em.
You need to flap your arms harder.
I haven't flown since 1997 and it gives me no end of pleasure to
think that I never will again.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 4:59:08 +0000, gm wrote:
HAPPY HAPPY Holy Good Friday to ALL...!!!
Dinner tonight was good Friday meatloaf.
What's so good or happy about good Friday?
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 09:05:04 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-18, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
However, 2020 crippled our food and supply lines, and they're kind of
important. I just didn't think far enough back in time.
Remember, there is no government money, other than what they print. The
rest is raked from the taxpayer or borrowed. What they print devalues
what already exists. The Fed doesn't do its job. Go DOGE! It's been a
long time coming. What they've found is horrifying. More! More!
The private sector, including you and me, has been under a government
microscope since I graduated from high school. Now, it's their turn.
I won't be able to fly after, what, May 15th? So what? Screw 'em.
You need to flap your arms harder.
I haven't flown since 1997 and it gives me no end of pleasure to
think that I never will again.
Do you think you'll ever leave your country or even your state?
On 2025-04-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 09:05:04 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-18, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
However, 2020 crippled our food and supply lines, and they're kind of
important. I just didn't think far enough back in time.
Remember, there is no government money, other than what they print. The >>>> rest is raked from the taxpayer or borrowed. What they print devalues
what already exists. The Fed doesn't do its job. Go DOGE! It's been a
long time coming. What they've found is horrifying. More! More!
The private sector, including you and me, has been under a government
microscope since I graduated from high school. Now, it's their turn.
I won't be able to fly after, what, May 15th? So what? Screw 'em.
You need to flap your arms harder.
I haven't flown since 1997 and it gives me no end of pleasure to
think that I never will again.
Do you think you'll ever leave your country or even your state?
No. If we had teleportation so that I could come home every night,
I certainly would.
Although leaving my state is about a 40-minute drive, Ohio is
not that different from Michigan. What would be the point?
Going to Canada is a shorter drive, but I don't have a passport.
In article <18de6a53ecf7c649a096551bdfa42ab7
@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100@yahoo.com says...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 14:15:12 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay.
In China,
Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
What a very American assumption.
Janet UK
On the contrary. dsi1 is Hawaiian, not American.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 19:04:17 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On the contrary. dsi1 is Hawaiian, not American.
People like you feel entitled to say that about people like me. So what
else is new? Nuttin.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 17:57:18 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article <18de6a53ecf7c649a096551bdfa42ab7
@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100@yahoo.com says...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 14:15:12 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay.
In China,
Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
What a very American assumption.
Janet UK
My assumptions are informed ones. 99% of Asians have never met an
American. Well that's my American assumption, anyway.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 17:57:18 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article <18de6a53ecf7c649a096551bdfa42ab7
@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100@yahoo.com says...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 14:15:12 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay.
In China,
Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
What a very American assumption.
Janet UK
My assumptions are informed ones. 99% of Asians have never met an
American. Well that's my American assumption, anyway. It sure beats your assumptions any day of the week. I would have assumed that you, as a
Brit, would know how things are with the Chinese and foreigners. I was certainly wrong about that. Oh silly me!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a6RCc24--wI
On 2025-04-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 09:05:04 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-18, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
However, 2020 crippled our food and supply lines, and they're kind of
important. I just didn't think far enough back in time.
Remember, there is no government money, other than what they print. The >>>> rest is raked from the taxpayer or borrowed. What they print devalues
what already exists. The Fed doesn't do its job. Go DOGE! It's been a
long time coming. What they've found is horrifying. More! More!
The private sector, including you and me, has been under a government
microscope since I graduated from high school. Now, it's their turn.
I won't be able to fly after, what, May 15th? So what? Screw 'em.
You need to flap your arms harder.
I haven't flown since 1997 and it gives me no end of pleasure to
think that I never will again.
Do you think you'll ever leave your country or even your state?
No. If we had teleportation so that I could come home every night,
I certainly would.
Although leaving my state is about a 40-minute drive, Ohio is
not that different from Michigan. What would be the point?
Going to Canada is a shorter drive, but I don't have a passport.
In article
<e5327f97d27a24d8fc566a97e3f5c00b@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100
@yahoo.com says...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 17:57:18 +0000, Janet wrote:
In article <18de6a53ecf7c649a096551bdfa42ab7
@www.novabbs.org>, dsi100@yahoo.com says...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 14:15:12 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Perhaps I'll taste some MSG straight up, just to see if my
fairly sensitive taste buds can detect anything.
In America, umami is mostly an abstract concept. That's okay.
In China,
Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
What a very American assumption.
Janet UK
My assumptions are informed ones. 99% of Asians have never met an
American. Well that's my American assumption, anyway.
Thankyou for confirming. Goalpost moves noted.
Janet UK
dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 4:59:08 +0000, gm wrote:
HAPPY HAPPY Holy Good Friday to ALL...!!!
Dinner tonight was good Friday meatloaf.
What's so good or happy about good Friday?
HAPPY SATURDAY...!!!
White Saturday marks Christ’s burial and the return of bells from Rome
"Today is White Saturday, when Christians commemorate the burial of
Jesus Christ and, according to folklore, church bells return from
Rome...
This is the second day of the Easter Triduum, which begins on Good
Friday with the remembrance of Christ’s crucifixion and culminates in
the celebration of his resurrection on Easter Sunday...
Bells traditionally remain silent from Holy Thursday, symbolically
journeying to Rome for the pope’s blessing, replaced temporarily by
wooden clappers. The day also includes preparations for Easter
celebrations, such as baking traditional pastries and dyeing eggs,
blending religious observances with folk traditions welcoming spring..."
😁
--
GM
--
On 4/18/2025 8:01 PM, Carol wrote:
I like a little basil and peruvian chile lime. Yes, lots of
variations.
Never heard of it. Sounds interesting.
Chili lime seasoning with a twist of Peruvian aji amarillos (yellow
chile peppers). Inspired by Peruvian cooking, this chili-lime spice
blend combines authentic Peruvian flavors with the classic zesty
taste of spicy chili lime. Use to season chicken, steak or seafood
like shrimp, and salmon. Sprinkle on fruit, or rim micheladas and
margaritas. Try these Peruvian spices with your empanada or tamales
recipes.
On 2025-04-19, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/18/2025 8:01 PM, Carol wrote:
variations.
I like a little basil and peruvian chile lime. Yes, lots of
Never heard of it. Sounds interesting.
Chili lime seasoning with a twist of Peruvian aji amarillos (yellow
chile peppers). Inspired by Peruvian cooking, this chili-lime spice
blend combines authentic Peruvian flavors with the classic zesty
taste of spicy chili lime. Use to season chicken, steak or seafood
like shrimp, and salmon. Sprinkle on fruit, or rim micheladas and margaritas. Try these Peruvian spices with your empanada or
tamales recipes.
I get by with Mexican chile lime:
On 2025-04-18, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
flood of sins wrote:
...
afaic, a kitchen isn't complete unless there's a jar of MSG
sitting next to the jar of Kosher salt. :)
lucky you don't react to it.
99% of people don't. Luck would be more like 50%.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:24:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:19:02 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk
and some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes
like it contains a heavy dose of MSG.
https://i.postimg.cc/QxbqpGzZ/Thinking.gif
As in: how much can you change and still call it by its original
name?
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor component of
ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is just thinned down mayo. Americans crave umami - they just don't realize it. Of course, you
never heard it from me.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-18, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
flood of sins wrote:
...
afaic, a kitchen isn't complete unless there's a jar of MSG
sitting next to the jar of Kosher salt. :)
lucky you don't react to it.
99% of people don't. Luck would be more like 50%.
Actually it's a tiny fraction. only 1 of hundreds of studies have
actually found a _tiny_ issue but it required huge consumption (like
1/2 TB in a single serving). That study was completely legit with a
larger base and a spread of ethnicities. It was one of the biggies
too, like John Hopkins or something.
MSG, used properly is a light dusting. About like the salting of a bit
of beef before cooking. It's utterly harmless and your own bodies
produce it, for your own bodies use.
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:24:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:19:02 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:38:09 +0000, dsi1 wrote:
https://i.postimg.cc/QxbqpGzZ/Thinking.gif
There's not much to ranch - you can mix up some mayo and milk
and some salt and it would be pretty close. Ranch also tastes
like it contains a heavy dose of MSG.
As in: how much can you change and still call it by its original
name?
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor component of
ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is just thinned down mayo.
Americans crave umami - they just don't realize it. Of course, you
never heard it from me.
Try again. Mine doesn't have any. None of my few dressings do.
On 2025-04-18 7:47 p.m., Carol wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
It's often a matter of not wanting to have an extensive spice
stock, so sometimes it makes sense to get a blend.
I am not sure I follow that. A spice blend is, by definition, a
mixture of certain spices. Each of the components is usually
something a decent cook would have on hand anyway, so it makes good
sense to me to have the component herbs and spices and to simply add
those rather than to have to go out and buy an much more expensive
mixture.
I can't help but to think of seeing cinnamon sugar in the spice shelf
at a local grocery store and the per unit cost of the stuff was more
than per unit cost of cinnamon, and the mixture was only one part
cinnamon to 3-4 parts sugar. Rip Off.
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 23:44:19 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor component of
ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is just thinned down mayo.
Americans crave umami - they just don't realize it.
Of course, you never heard it from me.
Try again. Mine doesn't have any. None of my few dressings do.
I don't have to think again. Most people that make their own ranch
dressing at home wouldn't think of adding MSG to it. The dirty little
secret applies only to commercial ranch.
On 4/18/2025 9:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-18 7:47 p.m., Carol wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
It's often a matter of not wanting to have an extensive spice
stock, so sometimes it makes sense to get a blend.
I am not sure I follow that. A spice blend is, by definition, a
mixture of certain spices. Each of the components is usually
something a decent cook would have on hand anyway, so it makes
good sense to me to have the component herbs and spices and to
simply add those rather than to have to go out and buy an much
more expensive mixture.
I can't help but to think of seeing cinnamon sugar in the spice
shelf at a local grocery store and the per unit cost of the stuff
was more than per unit cost of cinnamon, and the mixture was only
one part cinnamon to 3-4 parts sugar. Rip Off.
Depends. Cinnamon sugar is rather simple. There are some blends that
have quite a few spices/herbs and some you may not have on hand. Do
you have dried red bell pepper? How much lemon zest do you put in
your steak blend with hickory smoke?
McCormick Grill Mates Brown Sugar Bourbon Marinade is a distinctive
blend of sweet brown sugar, savory spices bourbon, and red bell
pepper.
Chicago Steak Seasoning salt, Tellicherry black pepper, sugar,
garlic, onion, lemon zest, citric acid and natural hickory smoke
flavor
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 00:08:54 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 23:44:19 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor component of
ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is just thinned down mayo. >>>> Americans crave umami - they just don't realize it.
That must be why they eat so many tomatoes.
Of course, you never heard it from me.
Try again. Mine doesn't have any. None of my few dressings do.
I don't have to think again. Most people that make their own ranch
dressing at home wouldn't think of adding MSG to it. The dirty little >>secret applies only to commercial ranch.
Walmart to the rescue.
<https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Classic-Ranch-Dressing-Dip-36-fl-oz/22282307>
A whole list of crap, but also... MSG.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hidden-Valley-Original-Ranch-Salad-Dressing-and-Topping-16-Ounce-Bottle/10451460
Unspeakable ingredients, but also... MSG.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ken-s-Steak-House-Ranch-Dressing-Topping-Spread-24-oz/10307551
Various waste products from scientific experiments, but also... MSG.
It's safe to say that dsi1 was correct.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 0:26:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 00:08:54 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 23:44:19 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor
component of ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is
just thinned down mayo. Americans crave umami - they just
don't realize it.
That must be why they eat so many tomatoes.
Of course, you never heard it from me.
Try again. Mine doesn't have any. None of my few dressings do.
I don't have to think again. Most people that make their own ranch dressing at home wouldn't think of adding MSG to it. The dirty
little secret applies only to commercial ranch.
Walmart to the rescue.
A whole list of crap, but also... MSG.
Unspeakable ingredients, but also... MSG.
Various waste products from scientific experiments, but also... MSG.
It's safe to say that dsi1 was correct.
The second dirty little secret is not only is MSG in ranch dressing,
it's in there in large amounts. It's quite intense. It's the reason
that people intensely love ranch dressing. Finally, the story can be
told!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb6H14gVWjM
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 0:26:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:<https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Classic-Ranch-Dressing-Dip-36-fl-oz/22282307>
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 00:08:54 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 23:44:19 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor
component of ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is
just thinned down mayo. Americans crave umami - they just
don't realize it.
That must be why they eat so many tomatoes.
Of course, you never heard it from me.
Try again. Mine doesn't have any. None of my few dressings do.
I don't have to think again. Most people that make their own ranch
dressing at home wouldn't think of adding MSG to it. The dirty
little secret applies only to commercial ranch.
Walmart to the rescue.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hidden-Valley-Original-Ranch-Salad-Dressing-and-Topping-16-Ounce-Bottle/10451460A whole list of crap, but also... MSG.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ken-s-Steak-House-Ranch-Dressing-Topping-Spread-24-oz/10307551Unspeakable ingredients, but also... MSG.
Various waste products from scientific experiments, but also... MSG.
It's safe to say that dsi1 was correct.
The second dirty little secret is not only is MSG in ranch dressing,
it's in there in large amounts. It's quite intense. It's the reason
that people intensely love ranch dressing. Finally, the story can be
told!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb6H14gVWjM
The 3rd dirty secret is you are an idiot trying to claim nothing
without MSG is worth eating.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 4:34:10 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 0:26:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:<https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Classic-Ranch-Dressing-Dip-36-fl-oz/22282307>
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 00:08:54 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 23:44:19 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor
component of ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is
just thinned down mayo. Americans crave umami - they just
don't realize it.
That must be why they eat so many tomatoes.
Of course, you never heard it from me.
Try again. Mine doesn't have any. None of my few dressings do.
I don't have to think again. Most people that make their own ranch
dressing at home wouldn't think of adding MSG to it. The dirty
little secret applies only to commercial ranch.
Walmart to the rescue.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hidden-Valley-Original-Ranch-Salad-Dressing-and-Topping-16-Ounce-Bottle/10451460A whole list of crap, but also... MSG.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ken-s-Steak-House-Ranch-Dressing-Topping-Spread-24-oz/10307551Unspeakable ingredients, but also... MSG.
Various waste products from scientific experiments, but also... MSG.
It's safe to say that dsi1 was correct.
The second dirty little secret is not only is MSG in ranch dressing,
it's in there in large amounts. It's quite intense. It's the reason
that people intensely love ranch dressing. Finally, the story can be
told!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb6H14gVWjM
The 3rd dirty secret is you are an idiot trying to claim nothing
without MSG is worth eating.
Obviously, that's not true. My point was that umami is something that
most American cooks are not concerned with and that ranch dressing is
popular because of MSG. Neither of those points have anything to do with
you so there's no need to get all bent out of shape. You don't got no
call to be making nasty personal remarks about someone you don't know.
You better start using that killfile that you keep bragging about.
I've had that one and it's not bad. The perivian one is *much* better.
It does cost more but since for us it's more a finishing spice used by pinches hence the cost doesn't matter,
It's something in the blend (more complex than simpler Tajin) that
makes it just right for me. I also love to experiment which is why it happens in my home made ranch dressing,
Your version though can be used in any of the recipes I've posted. At
most, balance into your tajin, a little sweet paprika and cumin to get closer.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-18, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
flood of sins wrote:
...
afaic, a kitchen isn't complete unless there's a jar of MSG
sitting next to the jar of Kosher salt. :)
lucky you don't react to it.
99% of people don't. Luck would be more like 50%.
Actually it's a tiny fraction.
dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 4:34:10 +0000, Carol wrote:
The 3rd dirty secret is you are an idiot trying to claim nothing
without MSG is worth eating.
Obviously, that's not true. My point was that umami is something that
most American cooks are not concerned with and that ranch dressing is
popular because of MSG. Neither of those points have anything to do with
you so there's no need to get all bent out of shape. You don't got no
call to be making nasty personal remarks about someone you don't know.
You better start using that killfile that you keep bragging about.
She sure needs more aloha, Uncle. Good thing yoose here for her.
As THE DO...!!!"
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 9:19:49 +0000, gm wrote:
As THE DO...!!!"
For breakfast, I had some mushroom things that my daughter made
yesterday. It had mushrooms, garlic, and goat cheese. I think an
application of Kewpie mayo would have added some excitement to it. I'll
have to pickup some frozen puff pastry squares and make stuff of my own.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 9:19:49 +0000, gm wrote:
As THE DO...!!!"
For breakfast, I had some mushroom things that my daughter made
yesterday. It had mushrooms, garlic, and goat cheese. I think an
application of Kewpie mayo would have added some excitement to it. I'll
have to pickup some frozen puff pastry squares and make stuff of my own.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wcLW9oYyJko2Z4nn7
On 2025-04-22 2:45 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 9:19:49 +0000, gm wrote:
As THE DO...!!!"
For breakfast, I had some mushroom things that my daughter made
yesterday. It had mushrooms, garlic, and goat cheese. I think an
application of Kewpie mayo would have added some excitement to it. I'll
have to pickup some frozen puff pastry squares and make stuff of my own.
That looks pretty good even if I am off mushrooms again for a while.
Anything with puff pastry is likely to be good. It has a bit of a
Danish look to it and on a related note.... years ago there was a Danish restaurant in the city where were living and one night I had a wonderful dessert. It was deep fried Camembert with strawberry jam. The cheese appeared to have been dredged in flour, dipped in egg white and then
dredged in bread crumbs and deep fried.
I never got to have it again because, even though the place as
excellent, the restaurant closed up. It was probably 20 years after
that when I went to Denmark for the first time and looked for it there.
The closest I came to it was Brie baked in puff pastry and served with
a blueberry preserve. It was pretty damned tasty.
That looks pretty good even if I am off mushrooms again for a while.
Anything with puff pastry is likely to be good. It has a bit of a
Danish look to it and on a related note.... years ago there was a Danish >restaurant in the city where were living and one night I had a wonderful >dessert. It was deep fried Camembert with strawberry jam. The cheese >appeared to have been dredged in flour, dipped in egg white and then
dredged in bread crumbs and deep fried.
I never got to have it again because, even though the place as
excellent, the restaurant closed up. It was probably 20 years after
that when I went to Denmark for the first time and looked for it there.
The closest I came to it was Brie baked in puff pastry and served with
a blueberry preserve. It was pretty damned tasty.
The closest I came to it was Brie baked in puff pastry and served with
a blueberry preserve. It was pretty damned tasty.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:29:21 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
That looks pretty good even if I am off mushrooms again for a while.
Anything with puff pastry is likely to be good. It has a bit of a
Danish look to it and on a related note.... years ago there was a Danish
restaurant in the city where were living and one night I had a wonderful
dessert. It was deep fried Camembert with strawberry jam. The cheese
appeared to have been dredged in flour, dipped in egg white and then
dredged in bread crumbs and deep fried.
I never got to have it again because, even though the place as
excellent, the restaurant closed up. It was probably 20 years after
that when I went to Denmark for the first time and looked for it there.
The closest I came to it was Brie baked in puff pastry and served with
a blueberry preserve. It was pretty damned tasty.
Deep fried camembert or brie is something I'd expect from someone who
can't cook and quickly wants to slap something up. Maybe a deepfried
Mars bar for dessert?
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 4:34:10 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 0:26:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 00:08:54 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1)
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 23:44:19 +0000, Carol wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
The dirty little secret is that MSG is the main flavor
component of ranch dressing. Without MSG, ranch dressing is
just thinned down mayo. Americans crave umami - they just
don't realize it.
That must be why they eat so many tomatoes.
do.Of course, you never heard it from me.
Try again. Mine doesn't have any. None of my few dressings
ranch >>>> dressing at home wouldn't think of adding MSG to it. TheI don't have to think again. Most people that make their own
dirty >>>> little secret applies only to commercial ranch.
Walmart to the rescue.
A whole list of crap, but also... MSG.
Unspeakable ingredients, but also... MSG.
Various waste products from scientific experiments, but also...
MSG.
It's safe to say that dsi1 was correct.
The second dirty little secret is not only is MSG in ranch
dressing, it's in there in large amounts. It's quite intense.
It's the reason that people intensely love ranch dressing.
Finally, the story can be told!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb6H14gVWjM
The 3rd dirty secret is you are an idiot trying to claim nothing
without MSG is worth eating.
Obviously, that's not true. My point was that umami is something that
most American cooks are not concerned with and that ranch dressing is
popular because of MSG. Neither of those points have anything to do
with you so there's no need to get all bent out of shape. You don't
got no call to be making nasty personal remarks about someone you
don't know. You better start using that killfile that you keep
bragging about.
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 4:34:10 +0000, Carol wrote:
The 3rd dirty secret is you are an idiot trying to claim nothing
without MSG is worth eating.
Obviously, that's not true. My point was that umami is something that
most American cooks are not concerned with and that ranch dressing is
popular because of MSG. Neither of those points have anything to do
with you so there's no need to get all bent out of shape. You don't
got no call to be making nasty personal remarks about someone you
don't know. You better start using that killfile that you keep
bragging about.
The real answer is some do and some don't use MSG. "Popular Ranch
Dressing Brands and their MSG Content
Some popular ranch dressing brands and their MSG content are as follows:
Hidden Valley Ranch: Contains MSG in some varieties, but not all
Kraft Ranch Dressing: Contains MSG in some varieties, but not all
Ranch Dressing by Ken’s Steak House: Does not contain MSG
Organic Ranch Dressing by Annie’s Naturals: Does not contain MSG
It is essential to check the ingredient label and look for
certifications like MSG-free or low-MSG to ensure that the product
meets your dietary needs."
And I'm not the one who talks about my killfile.
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 21:39:14 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"
<cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 4:34:10 +0000, Carol wrote:
The 3rd dirty secret is you are an idiot trying to claim nothing
without MSG is worth eating.
Obviously, that's not true. My point was that umami is something that
most American cooks are not concerned with and that ranch dressing is
popular because of MSG. Neither of those points have anything to do
with you so there's no need to get all bent out of shape. You don't
got no call to be making nasty personal remarks about someone you
don't know. You better start using that killfile that you keep
bragging about.
The real answer is some do and some don't use MSG. "Popular Ranch
Dressing Brands and their MSG Content
Some popular ranch dressing brands and their MSG content are as follows:
Hidden Valley Ranch: Contains MSG in some varieties, but not all
Kraft Ranch Dressing: Contains MSG in some varieties, but not all
Ranch Dressing by Ken’s Steak House: Does not contain MSG
Organic Ranch Dressing by Annie’s Naturals: Does not contain MSG
Nobody said there are NO commercial ranch dressings without MSG. But
the first 3 that Walmart shows, most likely 3 popular ones, all do
have it.
It is essential to check the ingredient label and look for
certifications like MSG-free or low-MSG to ensure that the product
meets your dietary needs."
Duh.
And I'm not the one who talks about my killfile.
It's a nice place. I recommend it!
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 21:58:51 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 21:39:14 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"
<cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 4:34:10 +0000, Carol wrote:
The 3rd dirty secret is you are an idiot trying to claim nothing
without MSG is worth eating.
Obviously, that's not true. My point was that umami is something that
most American cooks are not concerned with and that ranch dressing is
popular because of MSG. Neither of those points have anything to do
with you so there's no need to get all bent out of shape. You don't
got no call to be making nasty personal remarks about someone you
don't know. You better start using that killfile that you keep
bragging about.
The real answer is some do and some don't use MSG. "Popular Ranch >>>Dressing Brands and their MSG Content
Some popular ranch dressing brands and their MSG content are as follows:
Hidden Valley Ranch: Contains MSG in some varieties, but not all
Kraft Ranch Dressing: Contains MSG in some varieties, but not all
Ranch Dressing by Ken’s Steak House: Does not contain MSG
Organic Ranch Dressing by Annie’s Naturals: Does not contain MSG
Nobody said there are NO commercial ranch dressings without MSG. But
the first 3 that Walmart shows, most likely 3 popular ones, all do
have it.
It is essential to check the ingredient label and look for
certifications like MSG-free or low-MSG to ensure that the product
meets your dietary needs."
Duh.
And I'm not the one who talks about my killfile.
It's a nice place. I recommend it!
My step-mom served a salad along with 4 bottles of dressing. There were
2 bottles of ranch dressing. One was cucumber ranch. That sounded pretty
good to me. I checked the bottle and saw that there was no MSG in it so
I wanted to try it out. Unfortunately, the bottle was still sealed so I
just let it be. I went for the balsamic dressing instead.
The other bottle was regular ranch which did have MSG. I have to say
that the design of the bottle is quite pleasing to touch and hold. It
did seem kind of small though.
https://www.bolthouse.com/product/cucumber-ranch/
I'd rather have MSG as an ingredient than soybean oil.
I boldly predict that within 5 years, our country will be envy of the
world in corn and soy production and we'll possess the most advanced processing of these plants into useful household objects like hats and
small party favors.
Thanks to the new DJT regime, oil will be cheap in the US. Soybean oil,
that is. We'll be so rich in soybeans that nobody's going to know what
to do with it. Hopefully, you're into tofu and TVP and cheap soybean
oil.
We'll be the richest nation when it comes to soy oil and soybeans.
And lets not forget about corn and corn oil too. We'll be the envy of
the world by countries that love corn and soybeans. The Mexicans will
want our corn so badly that we're going to have to build a wall to keep
our nation's elote safe and secure.
I boldly predict that within 5 years, our country will be envy of the
world in corn and soy production and we'll possess the most advanced >processing of these plants into useful household objects like hats and
small party favors.
On 2025-04-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 05:18:10 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
I boldly predict that within 5 years, our country will be envy of the
world in corn and soy production and we'll possess the most advanced
processing of these plants into useful household objects like hats and
small party favors.
Compostable plastics would be my preference.
But in 5 years time, you may have a smarter president and things may
have recovered.
I'm not at all confident. We'll still have the same stupid voters.
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 05:18:10 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Thanks to the new DJT regime, oil will be cheap in the US. Soybean oil, >>that is. We'll be so rich in soybeans that nobody's going to know what
to do with it. Hopefully, you're into tofu and TVP and cheap soybean
oil.
From those 3, we tend to mainly have tofu.
We'll be the richest nation when it comes to soy oil and soybeans.
And lets not forget about corn and corn oil too. We'll be the envy of
the world by countries that love corn and soybeans. The Mexicans will
want our corn so badly that we're going to have to build a wall to keep
our nation's elote safe and secure.
Are you saying that because of Trump's amateurish shenanigans, the US
can't export its usual amounts of soybeans and corn anymore?
I boldly predict that within 5 years, our country will be envy of the
world in corn and soy production and we'll possess the most advanced >>processing of these plants into useful household objects like hats and >>small party favors.
But in 5 years time, you may have a smarter president and things may
have recovered.
Never mind the counter tariffs, which have been a huge reality check.
There is the boycott of American products and travel. Canadian travel to
the US is down more than 25. European travel is down almost as much.
Some people may not be worried but the people in the travel business
are. Closer to home, the husband of my niece in California is losing a
lot of business. He deals commercial real estate and some of his major >companies are Canadian unions who fund their pension plans with real
estate. They pulled their money out of the US and it has alread cost him >millions.
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 05:18:10 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Thanks to the new DJT regime, oil will be cheap in the US. Soybean oil, >>that is. We'll be so rich in soybeans that nobody's going to know what
to do with it. Hopefully, you're into tofu and TVP and cheap soybean
oil.
From those 3, we tend to mainly have tofu.
We'll be the richest nation when it comes to soy oil and soybeans.
And lets not forget about corn and corn oil too. We'll be the envy of
the world by countries that love corn and soybeans. The Mexicans will
want our corn so badly that we're going to have to build a wall to keep
our nation's elote safe and secure.
Are you saying that because of Trump's amateurish shenanigans, the US
can't export its usual amounts of soybeans and corn anymore?
I boldly predict that within 5 years, our country will be envy of the
world in corn and soy production and we'll possess the most advanced >>processing of these plants into useful household objects like hats and >>small party favors.
But in 5 years time, you may have a smarter president and things may
have recovered.
On 2025-04-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 05:18:10 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Thanks to the new DJT regime, oil will be cheap in the US. Soybean oil, >>>that is. We'll be so rich in soybeans that nobody's going to know what
to do with it. Hopefully, you're into tofu and TVP and cheap soybean
oil.
From those 3, we tend to mainly have tofu.
Me, too. I suppose I eat soybean oil in restaurants, but I don't
use it at home (where most of my meals are prepared). I have no
use whatsoever for TVP. Oh, and the occasional edamame.
We'll be the richest nation when it comes to soy oil and soybeans.
And lets not forget about corn and corn oil too. We'll be the envy of
the world by countries that love corn and soybeans. The Mexicans will >>>want our corn so badly that we're going to have to build a wall to keep >>>our nation's elote safe and secure.
Are you saying that because of Trump's amateurish shenanigans, the US
can't export its usual amounts of soybeans and corn anymore?
Not once other countries levy retaliatory tariffs.
I boldly predict that within 5 years, our country will be envy of the >>>world in corn and soy production and we'll possess the most advanced >>>processing of these plants into useful household objects like hats and >>>small party favors.
Compostable plastics would be my preference.
But in 5 years time, you may have a smarter president and things may
have recovered.
I'm not at all confident. We'll still have the same stupid voters.
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 9:21:10 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 05:18:10 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Thanks to the new DJT regime, oil will be cheap in the US. Soybean oil, >>>that is. We'll be so rich in soybeans that nobody's going to know what
to do with it. Hopefully, you're into tofu and TVP and cheap soybean
oil.
From those 3, we tend to mainly have tofu.
We'll be the richest nation when it comes to soy oil and soybeans.
And lets not forget about corn and corn oil too. We'll be the envy of
the world by countries that love corn and soybeans. The Mexicans will >>>want our corn so badly that we're going to have to build a wall to keep >>>our nation's elote safe and secure.
Are you saying that because of Trump's amateurish shenanigans, the US
can't export its usual amounts of soybeans and corn anymore?
I boldly predict that within 5 years, our country will be envy of the >>>world in corn and soy production and we'll possess the most advanced >>>processing of these plants into useful household objects like hats and >>>small party favors.
But in 5 years time, you may have a smarter president and things may
have recovered.
I think our global supply chain i.e., our complex, interdependant,
network of world trading partners will be changed/damaged permanently.
The US is going to be viewed as unreliable and greedy. DJT will bring
about a new world order, much to the glee of N. Korea, and Putin.
America will become weaker, China stronger. The amazing thing is that it
took only one man to bring our country to its knees.
https://www.world-grain.com/articles/21302-report-china-halts-us-corn-soybean-orders
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 9:21:10 +0000, Bruce wrote:
But in 5 years time, you may have a smarter president and things may
have recovered.
I think our global supply chain i.e., our complex, interdependant,
network of world trading partners will be changed/damaged permanently.
The US is going to be viewed as unreliable and greedy.
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 9:21:10 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 05:18:10 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Thanks to the new DJT regime, oil will be cheap in the US. Soybean oil,
that is. We'll be so rich in soybeans that nobody's going to know what
to do with it. Hopefully, you're into tofu and TVP and cheap soybean
oil.
From those 3, we tend to mainly have tofu.
We'll be the richest nation when it comes to soy oil and soybeans.
And lets not forget about corn and corn oil too. We'll be the envy of
the world by countries that love corn and soybeans. The Mexicans will
want our corn so badly that we're going to have to build a wall to keep
our nation's elote safe and secure.
Are you saying that because of Trump's amateurish shenanigans, the US
can't export its usual amounts of soybeans and corn anymore?
I boldly predict that within 5 years, our country will be envy of the
world in corn and soy production and we'll possess the most advanced
processing of these plants into useful household objects like hats and
small party favors.
But in 5 years time, you may have a smarter president and things may
have recovered.
I think our global supply chain i.e., our complex, interdependant,
network of world trading partners will be changed/damaged permanently.
The US is going to be viewed as unreliable and greedy. DJT will bring
about a new world order, much to the glee of N. Korea, and Putin.
America will become weaker, China stronger. The amazing thing is that it
took only one man to bring our country to its knees.
American customs people always had a bad reputation for being rude and aggressive. But now people trying to enter the US, come back with
stories about having been put in detention,without a lawyer and
without being formally charged, for days. Or their mobile phones and
laptops being "searched", without a warrant. It's become an unpleasant
police state.
On 4/24/2025 2:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
American customs people always had a bad reputation for being rude and
aggressive. But now people trying to enter the US, come back with
stories about having been put in detention,without a lawyer and
without being formally charged, for days. Or their mobile phones and
laptops being "searched", without a warrant. It's become an unpleasant
police state.
My grandfather came from Poland in 1902. I just hope he did the
paperwork correctly so I don't get deported. He came over on a Russian
ship so I may get sent back to fight in the Russian army.
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:07:19 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 4/24/2025 2:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
American customs people always had a bad reputation for being rude and
aggressive. But now people trying to enter the US, come back with
stories about having been put in detention,without a lawyer and
without being formally charged, for days. Or their mobile phones and
laptops being "searched", without a warrant. It's become an unpleasant
police state.
My grandfather came from Poland in 1902. I just hope he did the
paperwork correctly so I don't get deported. He came over on a Russian
ship so I may get sent back to fight in the Russian army.
When did Trump's grandfather Strumpf come over from Germany? I read it
all, but forgot.
On 2025-04-24 3:00 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
I have to agree with you. We were neighbours, friends, trading partners
and military allies for generations. It is sort of like having a
cheating spouse or a crooked business partner. You can move past the
damage they do but you will never trust them again. Trump likes to
bitch and whine about how other countries owe the US for protecting
them. Yes, thanks for finally stepping up and helping 2-3 years into
the conflicts and tipping the balance but please remember you tried your damnedest not to do any of the fighting.
The sentiment up here is that we are thoroughly pissed at the US and
have lost faith and respect and I don't think many will get over it
soon. The front runner in the election has indicated that we need to map
a new future, one without the US. We do not want to be part of the US.
We are pissed that Trump would even suggest it. And all those resources
that the US wants and needs.... we gladly sold you in the past, but this current situation means we need to look for new buyers, so good luck
with that.
On 4/24/2025 4:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:07:19 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:Grandfather came in 1885. Donnie, however, sees to revert back to the
On 4/24/2025 2:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
American customs people always had a bad reputation for being rude and >>>> aggressive. But now people trying to enter the US, come back with
stories about having been put in detention,without a lawyer and
without being formally charged, for days. Or their mobile phones and
laptops being "searched", without a warrant. It's become an unpleasant >>>> police state.
My grandfather came from Poland in 1902. I just hope he did the
paperwork correctly so I don't get deported. He came over on a Russian
ship so I may get sent back to fight in the Russian army.
When did Trump's grandfather Strumpf come over from Germany? I read it
all, but forgot.
1930s Germany and wants to emulate it.
On 4/24/2025 3:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-24 3:00 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
I have to agree with you. We were neighbours, friends, trading partners
and military allies for generations. It is sort of like having a
cheating spouse or a crooked business partner. You can move past the
damage they do but you will never trust them again. Trump likes to
bitch and whine about how other countries owe the US for protecting
them. Yes, thanks for finally stepping up and helping 2-3 years into
the conflicts and tipping the balance but please remember you tried your
damnedest not to do any of the fighting.
The sentiment up here is that we are thoroughly pissed at the US and
have lost faith and respect and I don't think many will get over it
soon. The front runner in the election has indicated that we need to map
a new future, one without the US. We do not want to be part of the US.
We are pissed that Trump would even suggest it. And all those resources
that the US wants and needs.... we gladly sold you in the past, but this
current situation means we need to look for new buyers, so good luck
with that.
Right now, I'd be afraid to do any international travel. Maybe the
Heard and McDonnel Islands would be OK
Yes, but maybe the Republican party will think twice before they
accept another clown as their next presidential candidate.
On 2025-04-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Yes, but maybe the Republican party will think twice before they
accept another clown as their next presidential candidate.
They're cowards. Otherwise, we could have been rid of him in
2019 or 2021.
On 4/24/2025 4:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:07:19 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:Grandfather came in 1885. Donnie, however, sees to revert back to the
On 4/24/2025 2:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
American customs people always had a bad reputation for being rude and >>>> aggressive. But now people trying to enter the US, come back with
stories about having been put in detention,without a lawyer and
without being formally charged, for days. Or their mobile phones and
laptops being "searched", without a warrant. It's become an unpleasant >>>> police state.
My grandfather came from Poland in 1902. I just hope he did the
paperwork correctly so I don't get deported. He came over on a Russian
ship so I may get sent back to fight in the Russian army.
When did Trump's grandfather Strumpf come over from Germany? I read it
all, but forgot.
1930s Germany and wants to emulate it.
On 2025-04-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Yes, but maybe the Republican party will think twice before they
accept another clown as their next presidential candidate.
They're cowards. Otherwise, we could have been rid of him in
2019 or 2021.
I'm surprised he hasn't started wearing one of those old german military helmets with the spike on top.
Yep, there is only a few that do not lick his asshole.
Going to Canada in the past was little more than a wave to the border
guards in either direction. Even about 10 days after 9/11 we had minor
delay.
My grandfather came from Poland in 1902. I just hope he did the
paperwork correctly so I don't get deported. He came over on a Russian
ship so I may get sent back to fight in the Russian army.
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:42:00 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Yes, but maybe the Republican party will think twice before they
accept another clown as their next presidential candidate.
They're cowards. Otherwise, we could have been rid of him in
2019 or 2021.
But Trump's more unhinged now than during his first term. If he really
causes huge inflation, increased unemployment, business closures,
stock market disasters and serious damage to the US' reputation as a
trading and military partner, even Republicans may get fed up with
him. Maybe even Fox News eventually.
On 2025-04-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:42:00 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're cowards. Otherwise, we could have been rid of him in
2019 or 2021.
But Trump's more unhinged now than during his first term. If he really
causes huge inflation, increased unemployment, business closures,
stock market disasters and serious damage to the US' reputation as a
trading and military partner, even Republicans may get fed up with
him. Maybe even Fox News eventually.
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:42:00 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're cowards. Otherwise, we could have been rid of him in
2019 or 2021.
But Trump's more unhinged now than during his first term. If he really
causes huge inflation, increased unemployment, business closures,
stock market disasters and serious damage to the US' reputation as a
trading and military partner, even Republicans may get fed up with
him. Maybe even Fox News eventually.
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely retarded.
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely
retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
Enough of politics. What's on your menu tonight? We're having leftover
pork ribs with BBQ sauce and RaR with broccoli. Oh, and I'm having a few beers. If you've read this far, thank you, but why?
"As the saying goes, 'He who tied the bell must untie it'", says a spokesperson for China's Commerce Ministry.
On 2025-04-25 8:24 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely
retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
We saw how it worked with the Nazis. They came along with great promises
of rebuilding their industry and making the country great again. The
people supported that. Then he led them down the path to war. Even those
who had been opposed to him found themselves drawn into it to protect
their country as the nations they had attacked rallied and closed in on
them.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 13:38:33 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
We saw how it worked with the Nazis. They came along with great promises
of rebuilding their industry and making the country great again. The
people supported that. Then he led them down the path to war. Even those
who had been opposed to him found themselves drawn into it to protect
their country as the nations they had attacked rallied and closed in on
them.
Hitler was also adept at screwing the German workers - he promised them
cars if they worked hard. As it goes, nobody got their cars - until H
was dead and gone.
The lasting monument of the Nazis would probably the their Autobahn asYou would not take a bike on the Autobahn these days. They are are a
the is America's Interstate system is the memorial to the Eisenhower administration. If it wasn't for the Nazis, our intestate system might
not exist. My wife said she remembers trucking down the Autobahn on her
bike. It must have been kind of alarming to see a little girl on a bike
on that road!
Trump's apparent willingness to de-escalate America's trade war with
the world's second-biggest economy has been brushed off by government officials in China and ridiculed online as "chickening out."
"As the saying goes, 'He who tied the bell must untie it'", says a spokesperson for China's Commerce Ministry.
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely
retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
On 2025-04-24, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
My grandfather came from Poland in 1902. I just hope he did the
paperwork correctly so I don't get deported. He came over on a Russian
ship so I may get sent back to fight in the Russian army.
If he came after September, Dad was one year old. Ain't it great how, as
we age, time shrinks? Hell, I was born eighty two years after the Civil
War. I used to think that was a long time.
You and I have lived for about a third of this country's existence. Time flies when you're having fun!
Random thoughts on a Thursday
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 19:14:34 +0000, Bruce wrote:
"As the saying goes, 'He who tied the bell must untie it'", says a
spokesperson for China's Commerce Ministry.
Oh, those Chinese!
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 19:14:34 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Trump's apparent willingness to de-escalate America's trade war with
the world's second-biggest economy has been brushed off by government
officials in China and ridiculed online as "chickening out."
"As the saying goes, 'He who tied the bell must untie it'", says a
spokesperson for China's Commerce Ministry.
The Chinese have called him "10,000 Tariff Grandpa." "Mascara Man" is >you-know-who. Trump is waiting for China to call him up but that won't
come. I call him "Uncle who waits by the phone."
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely
retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
I'm hoping that his current presidency will turn enough of his fan
base off. So far, he's damaged the economy and if he continues to do
that and people start to feel it, they may change their mind about him
and similar clowns.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 13:38:33 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-25 8:24 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely >>>> retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
We saw how it worked with the Nazis. They came along with great promises
of rebuilding their industry and making the country great again. The
people supported that. Then he led them down the path to war. Even those
who had been opposed to him found themselves drawn into it to protect
their country as the nations they had attacked rallied and closed in on
them.
Hitler was also adept at screwing the German workers - he promised them
cars if they worked hard. As it goes, nobody got their cars - until H
was dead and gone.
The lasting monument of the Nazis would probably the their Autobahn as
the is America's Interstate system is the memorial to the Eisenhower >administration. If it wasn't for the Nazis, our intestate system might
not exist. My wife said she remembers trucking down the Autobahn on her
bike. It must have been kind of alarming to see a little girl on a bike
on that road!
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/6D32/production/_85745972_gettyimages-2672962.jpg.webp
On 2025-04-25 1:13 p.m., Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Cindy HamiltonAhhh! The eternal optimist:-)
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely >>>> retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
I'm hoping that his current presidency will turn enough of his fan
base off. So far, he's damaged the economy and if he continues to do
that and people start to feel it, they may change their mind about him
and similar clowns.
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>>><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over >>>>>his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely >>>> retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among >>>young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
I'm hoping that his current presidency will turn enough of his fan
base off. So far, he's damaged the economy and if he continues to do
that and people start to feel it, they may change their mind about him
and similar clowns.
Not his hard-core base. He openly hates the people they hate, which
gives them license to openly hate.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely
retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
I'm hoping that his current presidency will turn enough of his fan
base off. So far, he's damaged the economy and if he continues to do
that and people start to feel it, they may change their mind about him
and similar clowns.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely
retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
I'm hoping that his current presidency will turn enough of his fan
base off. So far, he's damaged the economy and if he continues to do
that and people start to feel it, they may change their mind about him
and similar clowns.
On 2025-04-25 1:13 p.m., Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Cindy HamiltonAhhh! The eternal optimist:-)
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely >>>> retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
I'm hoping that his current presidency will turn enough of his fan
base off. So far, he's damaged the economy and if he continues to do
that and people start to feel it, they may change their mind about him
and similar clowns.
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over
his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick
up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will
start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely >>>> retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among
young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
I'm hoping that his current presidency will turn enough of his fan
base off. So far, he's damaged the economy and if he continues to do
that and people start to feel it, they may change their mind about him
and similar clowns.
Not his hard-core base. He openly hates the people they hate, which
gives them license to openly hate.
Could only the Nazis come up with highways between cities? Would the
rest of us still be using goat tracks if the Nazis hadn't built their highways?
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 19:19:31 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Could only the Nazis come up with highways between cities? Would the
rest of us still be using goat tracks if the Nazis hadn't built their
highways?
The Nazis were the first to come up with a standardized, federally
funded, built, and maintained, network of roads whose real purpose was
to rapidly mobilize military movement throughout Germany.
Our interstate system i.e., the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of >Interstate and Defense Highways, AKA, The Interstate, was inspired by
what the Nazis had accomplished. You might believe that Eisenhower never >heard of the Bundesautobahn, but that's rather far-fetched.
We'd probably have roads between our cities but it wouldn't be
maintained and funded as it is now. Perhaps the 10,000 tariff grandpa
will dissolve our Federal Highway Administration to save a few bucks.
We'd probably have roads between our cities but it wouldn't be
maintained and funded as it is now. Perhaps the 10,000 tariff grandpa
will dissolve our Federal Highway Administration to save a few bucks.
No matter how much trump shits on his sycophants, they will always adore their cult leader. He is their GOD. You should have enough sense to
realize this.
Exactly. Like any cult.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 19:19:31 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Could only the Nazis come up with highways between cities? Would the
rest of us still be using goat tracks if the Nazis hadn't built their
highways?
The Nazis were the first to come up with a standardized, federally
funded, built, and maintained, network of roads whose real purpose was
to rapidly mobilize military movement throughout Germany.
Interstate and Defense Highways, AKA, The Interstate, was inspired by
what the Nazis had accomplished. You might believe that Eisenhower never heard of the Bundesautobahn, but that's rather far-fetched.
We'd probably have roads between our cities but it wouldn't be
maintained and funded as it is now. Perhaps the 10,000 tariff grandpa
will dissolve our Federal Highway Administration to save a few bucks.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 02:26:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 19:19:31 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Could only the Nazis come up with highways between cities? Would the
rest of us still be using goat tracks if the Nazis hadn't built their
highways?
The Nazis were the first to come up with a standardized, federally
funded, built, and maintained, network of roads whose real purpose was
to rapidly mobilize military movement throughout Germany.
Our interstate system i.e., the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of >Interstate and Defense Highways, AKA, The Interstate, was inspired by
what the Nazis had accomplished. You might believe that Eisenhower never >heard of the Bundesautobahn, but that's rather far-fetched.
We'd probably have roads between our cities but it wouldn't be
maintained and funded as it is now. Perhaps the 10,000 tariff grandpa
will dissolve our Federal Highway Administration to save a few bucks.
Oh, come on. Maybe the Nazis did it first, but all countries would
have done it sooner or later, also without Nazi inspiration. Connect
your cities with nationally funded highways, what an invention!
In article <vuhh1i$1ffl9$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 02:26:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 19:19:31 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Could only the Nazis come up with highways between cities? Would the
rest of us still be using goat tracks if the Nazis hadn't built their
highways?
The Nazis were the first to come up with a standardized, federally
funded, built, and maintained, network of roads whose real purpose was
to rapidly mobilize military movement throughout Germany.
Our interstate system i.e., the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of
Interstate and Defense Highways, AKA, The Interstate, was inspired by
what the Nazis had accomplished. You might believe that Eisenhower never
heard of the Bundesautobahn, but that's rather far-fetched.
We'd probably have roads between our cities but it wouldn't be
maintained and funded as it is now. Perhaps the 10,000 tariff grandpa
will dissolve our Federal Highway Administration to save a few bucks.
Oh, come on. Maybe the Nazis did it first, but all countries would
have done it sooner or later, also without Nazi inspiration. Connect
your cities with nationally funded highways, what an invention!
The Romans had already thought of and implemented
intercity highways when building their empire in an
earlier millennium.
The Nazis were the first to come up with a standardized, federally
funded, built, and maintained, network of roads whose real purpose was
to rapidly mobilize military movement throughout Germany.
Our interstate system i.e., the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways, AKA, The Interstate, was inspired by
what the Nazis had accomplished. You might believe that Eisenhower never heard of the Bundesautobahn, but that's rather far-fetched.
We'd probably have roads between our cities but it wouldn't be
maintained and funded as it is now. Perhaps the 10,000 tariff grandpa
will dissolve our Federal Highway Administration to save a few bucks.
Oh, come on. Maybe the Nazis did it first, but all countries would
have done it sooner or later, also without Nazi inspiration. Connect
your cities with nationally funded highways, what an invention!
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention! Now all countries are trying to have
trains running on time. Thanks, Nazis!
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 2:39:25 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Oh, come on. Maybe the Nazis did it first, but all countries would
have done it sooner or later, also without Nazi inspiration. Connect
your cities with nationally funded highways, what an invention!
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention! Now all countries are trying to have
trains running on time. Thanks, Nazis!
Whether you believe it or not, our parts of the US Interstate System was >built so that the military could move men and machines rapidly from the >military bases to where they were needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCCjwHFzeJY
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 21:37:24 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>>>><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
They're afraid of Trump -- or more specifically Trump's power over >>>>>>his base. I think they're planning to just wait him out and pick >>>>>>up the pieces afterward.
There must be a point where Trump's base and therefore his power will >>>>> start to shrink. His fans are uneducated and simple but not completely >>>>> retarded.
Sadly, he made gains among young people in 2024 compared to 2020.
Seven percentage points among young women; 15 percentage points among >>>>young men.
https://now.tufts.edu/2024/11/12/young-voters-shifted-toward-trump-still-favored-harris-overall
I'm hoping that his current presidency will turn enough of his fan
base off. So far, he's damaged the economy and if he continues to do
that and people start to feel it, they may change their mind about him
and similar clowns.
Not his hard-core base. He openly hates the people they hate, which
gives them license to openly hate.
Yes, but how many are hard-core? 30% of his voters? He could lose the
rest if he screws up badly enough.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 06:54:04 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 2:39:25 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Oh, come on. Maybe the Nazis did it first, but all countries would
have done it sooner or later, also without Nazi inspiration. Connect
your cities with nationally funded highways, what an invention!
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention! Now all countries are trying to have
trains running on time. Thanks, Nazis!
Whether you believe it or not, our parts of the US Interstate System was >>built so that the military could move men and machines rapidly from the >>military bases to where they were needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCCjwHFzeJY
I never said anything about anything military.
There may not be enough manufacturing to require those roads for
trucking or the tax revenues to maintain them. It is expensive to build
and maintain highways and there is a lot of infrastructure that needs to
be replaced. I have no idea who is in charge of transportation these
days but I hope they are more competent than the anti vaxxer secretary
of health or the secretary of defense who discusses Secret war plans
with accidentally included magazine editors.
On 2025-04-25, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 21:37:24 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
Not his hard-core base. He openly hates the people they hate, which >>>gives them license to openly hate.
Yes, but how many are hard-core? 30% of his voters? He could lose the
rest if he screws up badly enough.
It's a religion. Trump is their god.
This is a few months old, but:
https://news.vanderbilt.edu/2025/02/24/majority-of-republicans-nationally-identify-as-maga-for-first-time-in-unity-poll/
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 06:54:04 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Whether you believe it or not, our parts of the US Interstate System was >>>built so that the military could move men and machines rapidly from the >>>military bases to where they were needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCCjwHFzeJY
I never said anything about anything military.
That was indeed part of the rationale for building the interstate
highway system. Along with bolstering the economy (always an
American favorite) and reducing fatal accidents.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 08:59:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 06:54:04 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
Whether you believe it or not, our parts of the US Interstate System was >>>>built so that the military could move men and machines rapidly from the >>>>military bases to where they were needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCCjwHFzeJY
I never said anything about anything military.
That was indeed part of the rationale for building the interstate
highway system. Along with bolstering the economy (always an
American favorite) and reducing fatal accidents.
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the
official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 08:59:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
That was indeed part of the rationale for building the interstate
highway system. Along with bolstering the economy (always an
American favorite) and reducing fatal accidents.
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high >speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans.
suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the
official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high
speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I
suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the
official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in "interstate" and miss one.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:18:50 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 08:59:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
That was indeed part of the rationale for building the interstate >>>>highway system. Along with bolstering the economy (always an
American favorite) and reducing fatal accidents.
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world.
Soon you'll be talking about Hawaii.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high >>speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans.
"Autobahns were actually designed more for show, employment, and
national unity than for practical military use. Many of them had
winding routes that looked beautiful and impressive but weren't
optimized for fast army transport."
suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the >>official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
It's all moot. All I'm saying is that, also without the nazis the
western world -including, lo and behold, America- would have had its highways.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:58:55 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:18:50 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 08:59:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
That was indeed part of the rationale for building the interstate >>>>>highway system. Along with bolstering the economy (always an >>>>>American favorite) and reducing fatal accidents.
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world.
Soon you'll be talking about Hawaii.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high >>>speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans.
"Autobahns were actually designed more for show, employment, and
national unity than for practical military use. Many of them had
winding routes that looked beautiful and impressive but weren't
optimized for fast army transport."
suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the >>>official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
It's all moot. All I'm saying is that, also without the nazis the
western world -including, lo and behold, America- would have had its
highways.
If you're saying that roads would have existed without the Nazis, I'm >inclined to not disagree. Yoose gets the last word.
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high
speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I
suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the
official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in "interstate" and miss one.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high >>> speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I
suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the
official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in
"interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap. We don't even mind the >funny name. My granddaughter's tutu, a Hawaiian activist, won't ever set
foot on that road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M95iyUjUpE
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high
speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I
suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the
official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in "interstate" and miss one.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in
"interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap.
On 2025-04-26 4:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in
"interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap.
He explained that it is a total failure as an interstate because it does
not connect it to any other state. The problem is calling it an
interstate. As for being a failure the H3 has a dubious reputation.
There were a number of issues over the route laid out. It took an
incredible amount of time to build and it ended up costing way more than >projected, way more than other interstates.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 20:03:44 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is >>>>> that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world. >>>> My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high >>>> speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I >>>> suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the
official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in
"interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap. We don't even mind the >>funny name. My granddaughter's tutu, a Hawaiian activist, won't ever set >>foot on that road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M95iyUjUpE
I thought a tutu was a garment.
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 20:03:44 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is >>>>>> that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world. >>>>> My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high >>>>> speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I >>>>> suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the >>>>> official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in
"interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular >>>road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap. We don't even mind the >>>funny name. My granddaughter's tutu, a Hawaiian activist, won't ever set >>>foot on that road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M95iyUjUpE
I thought a tutu was a garment.
It would be too confusing for dsi1 to use English.
Of course, he would never think it rude to use a language that
his readers don't understand.
On 2025-04-26 4:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in
"interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap.
He explained that it is a total failure as an interstate because it does
not connect it to any other state. The problem is calling it an
interstate. As for being a failure the H3 has a dubious reputation.
There were a number of issues over the route laid out. It took an
incredible amount of time to build and it ended up costing way more than projected, way more than other interstates.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 21:08:42 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-26 4:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in >>>> "interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap.
He explained that it is a total failure as an interstate because it does
not connect it to any other state. The problem is calling it an
interstate. As for being a failure the H3 has a dubious reputation.
There were a number of issues over the route laid out. It took an
incredible amount of time to build and it ended up costing way more than
projected, way more than other interstates.
I got the joke. All da Hawaiians got the joke. It's pretty funny but we
don't mind.
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 20:03:44 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is >>>>>> that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to
build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world. >>>>> My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high >>>>> speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I >>>>> suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the >>>>> official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in
"interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap. We don't even mind the >>> funny name. My granddaughter's tutu, a Hawaiian activist, won't ever set >>> foot on that road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M95iyUjUpE
I thought a tutu was a garment.
It would be too confusing for dsi1 to use English.
Of course, he would never think it rude to use a language that
his readers don't understand.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 21:08:42 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-26 4:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in >>>> "interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap.
He explained that it is a total failure as an interstate because it does
not connect it to any other state. The problem is calling it an
interstate. As for being a failure the H3 has a dubious reputation.
There were a number of issues over the route laid out. It took an
incredible amount of time to build and it ended up costing way more than
projected, way more than other interstates.
I got the joke. All da Hawaiians got the joke. It's pretty funny but we
don't mind. Da Hawaiians got their beautiful road and the feds got to
call their highway an "Interstate." As far as I'm concerned, they can
call it "Tobacco Road" or "Buckaroo Banzai." Hawaiians know a good deal
when we see one.
Americans on the mainland might think it unfair that they had to foot
the bill for most of it but tough titties. I have to pay to replace the elevators in our condo even if we never use it. Same ting. Quit your complainin'.
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 21:42:26 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 20:03:44 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is >>>>>>> that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to >>>>>>> build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world. >>>>>> My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high >>>>>> speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I >>>>>> suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the >>>>>> official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a
bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in >>>>> "interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular
road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap. We don't even mind the >>>> funny name. My granddaughter's tutu, a Hawaiian activist, won't ever set >>>> foot on that road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M95iyUjUpE
I thought a tutu was a garment.
It would be too confusing for dsi1 to use English.
Of course, he would never think it rude to use a language that
his readers don't understand.
I guess Don't Mess With My Tutu means keep your hands off my Hawaiian activist.
On 4/26/2025 5:55 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 21:42:26 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 20:03:44 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm
saying is
that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to >>>>>>>> build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western
world.
My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted >>>>>>> a high
speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the
Americans. I
suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the >>>>>>> official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a >>>>>> bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in >>>>>> "interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular >>>>> road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap. We don't even
mind the
funny name. My granddaughter's tutu, a Hawaiian activist, won't
ever set
foot on that road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M95iyUjUpE
I thought a tutu was a garment.
It would be too confusing for dsi1 to use English.
Of course, he would never think it rude to use a language that
his readers don't understand.
I guess Don't Mess With My Tutu means keep your hands off my Hawaiian
activist.
It is a foreign language. My daughter spend a year or two there.
In Hawaiian, "tutu" (with the macron over the "u") means grandparent. It
can be used to refer to either a grandfather or grandmother, though more specific terms like "tutu wahine" (grandmother) and "tutu kāne" (grandfather) can also be used. The word "tutu" can also be used
informally to refer to any elder or elder figure within the family
On 4/26/2025 5:55 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 21:42:26 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
It would be too confusing for dsi1 to use English.
Of course, he would never think it rude to use a language that
his readers don't understand.
I guess Don't Mess With My Tutu means keep your hands off my Hawaiian
activist.
It is a foreign language. My daughter spend a year or two there.
In Hawaiian, "tutu" (with the macron over the "u") means grandparent. It
can be used to refer to either a grandfather or grandmother, though more >specific terms like "tutu wahine" (grandmother) and "tutu kāne" >(grandfather) can also be used. The word "tutu" can also be used
informally to refer to any elder or elder figure within the family
It is a foreign language. My daughter spend a year or two there.
In Hawaiian, "tutu" (with the macron over the "u") means grandparent. It
can be used to refer to either a grandfather or grandmother, though more specific terms like "tutu wahine" (grandmother) and "tutu kāne" (grandfather) can also be used. The word "tutu" can also be used
informally to refer to any elder or elder figure within the family
Our interstate system i.e., the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways, AKA, The Interstate, was inspired by
what the Nazis had accomplished. You might believe that Eisenhower never heard of the Bundesautobahn, but that's rather far-fetched.
Wahine also means woman in Maori. Maori and Hawaiian are related.
Aloha is aroha in Maori.
Sean Duffy, an American politician, lawyer, and former reality
television personality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Duffy
He's a loyal dog for Trump.
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention! Now all countries are trying to have
trains running on time. Thanks, Nazis!
On 2025-04-26, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
Our interstate system i.e., the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of
Interstate and Defense Highways, AKA, The Interstate, was inspired by
what the Nazis had accomplished. You might believe that Eisenhower never
heard of the Bundesautobahn, but that's rather far-fetched.
I suppose Eisenhower did know about the Bundesautobahn, considering he
was the Supreme Allied Commander, Europe during WWII.
Seven years later, he was portrayed as a well meaning, bumbling old fool
by the American Commie Press, the _only_ available news to the common
citizen at the time. :(
Whether you believe it or not, our parts of the US Interstate System
On 2025-04-26, dsi1 wrote:
Whether you believe it or not, our parts of the US Interstate System
From a topological point of view, I cannot believe that any roadway
in Hawaii could possibly be 'part of' the US Interstate System.
On 2025-04-26, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
Sean Duffy, an American politician, lawyer, and former reality
television personality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Duffy
He's a loyal dog for Trump.
And a absolute star in lumberjack competition! In other words, he's a
*real man*. Nowadays, they're getting harder to find.
On 2025-04-26, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
Sean Duffy, an American politician, lawyer, and former reality
television personality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Duffy
He's a loyal dog for Trump.
And a absolute star in lumberjack competition! In other words, he's a
*real man*. Nowadays, they're getting harder to find.
On 2025-04-26, dsi1 wrote:
Whether you believe it or not, our parts of the US Interstate System
From a topological point of view, I cannot believe that any roadway
in Hawaii could possibly be 'part of' the US Interstate System.
On 4/26/2025 5:55 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 21:42:26 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
<chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 20:03:44 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 18:36:51 +0000, Ed P wrote:
On 4/26/2025 1:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 9:06:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It doesn't matter what the American rationale was. All I'm saying is >>>>>>>> that the western world doesn't need inspiration from the Nazis to >>>>>>>> build highways between its cities.
I was talking about America and American roads, not the Western world. >>>>>>> My point was the American interstate was inspired by the German
Autobahn. There's nothing surprising about that. The Nazis wanted a high
speed roadway network for military reasons and so did the Americans. I >>>>>>> suppose that might be surprising but that purpose is included in the >>>>>>> official name of the US Interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System
Obviously a total failure. If it was done right, there would be a >>>>>> bridge so we could drive to one of our states, Hawaii. Don't call in >>>>>> "interstate" and miss one.
You call it a total failure. I call it the most beautiful/spectacular >>>>> road in America. Shit like that don't come cheap. We don't even mind the >>>>> funny name. My granddaughter's tutu, a Hawaiian activist, won't ever set >>>>> foot on that road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M95iyUjUpE
I thought a tutu was a garment.
It would be too confusing for dsi1 to use English.
Of course, he would never think it rude to use a language that
his readers don't understand.
I guess Don't Mess With My Tutu means keep your hands off my Hawaiian
activist.
It is a foreign language. My daughter spend a year or two there.
In Hawaiian, "tutu" (with the macron over the "u") means grandparent. It
can be used to refer to either a grandfather or grandmother, though more specific terms like "tutu wahine" (grandmother) and "tutu kāne" (grandfather) can also be used. The word "tutu" can also be used
informally to refer to any elder or elder figure within the family
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention! Now all countries are trying to have
trains running on time. Thanks, Nazis!
But they don't! Thanks, Commies!
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention!
On 2025-04-26 11:44 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention! Now all countries are trying to have
trains running on time. Thanks, Nazis!
But they don't! Thanks, Commies!
You have been brainwashed. You must never have travelled by rain in
Germany. I have and I have tell you that they are remarkably
reliable. There is an extensive passenger trail system across Europe.
One year we spent a couple weeks roaming around Europe on a rail pass
and the German trains were the best. We could stop by the ticket
booth and tell them we were thinking of going somewhere and they
would figure out the best route for us and print up multiple
itineraries. We would arrive at the train station and have a look at
the board to see which track we had to go to. The train would arrive
and stay a couple minutes while some passengers got off and the rest
of us got on and then it would head off. We would arrive at the
first transfer, get off, check the board for the tack number, hurry
over and the train would show up, allow people on and off and then
leave on time. It was a bit like travelling in a big city subway
system where you get arrive, get to the next train, wait a few
minutes and you are off again. Travelling by train in Germany was a
breeze. France, Danish and Swiss chains were also very reliable.
Italian trains were another story.
@sbcglobal.net says...
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention!
I thought that was credited to Mussolini?
@sbcglobal.net says...
On 2025-04-26, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You know what the Nazis also invented? Trains that are running on
time. What a great invention!
I thought that was credited to Mussolini?
On 2025-04-26, dsi1 wrote:
Whether you believe it or not, our parts of the US Interstate System
From a topological point of view, I cannot believe that any roadway
in Hawaii could possibly be 'part of' the US Interstate System.
On 4/27/2025 5:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I shouldn't complain. Passenger train service in Canada sucks and
tends to run late. One time we took the train from Calgary to
Vancouver. The train was about an hour late leaving Calgary and
arrived in Vancouver a few hours late. Unlike the excellent food on
the European trains, the food on that trip sucked big time. When our
son lived in Montreal he used to come to visit by train. I had to
drive into the city to pick him up and the train was invariably an
hour late.
There aren't any passenger trains where I live. There used to be trains
to Beaufort, SC. Used to be passenger trains to/from Memphis, TN, too
but I'm not sure they went to any destinations I'd like to go and
probably not quickly or without frequent whistle stops in the middle of nowhere.
I shouldn't complain. Passenger train service in Canada sucks and tends
to run late. One time we took the train from Calgary to Vancouver. The
train was about an hour late leaving Calgary and arrived in Vancouver a
few hours late. Unlike the excellent food on the European trains, the
food on that trip sucked big time. When our son lived in Montreal he
used to come to visit by train. I had to drive into the city to pick him
up and the train was invariably an hour late.
On 2025-04-27 7:52 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 4/27/2025 5:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I shouldn't complain. Passenger train service in Canada sucks and
tends to run late. One time we took the train from Calgary to
Vancouver. The train was about an hour late leaving Calgary and
arrived in Vancouver a few hours late. Unlike the excellent food
on the European trains, the food on that trip sucked big time.
When our son lived in Montreal he used to come to visit by
train. I had to drive into the city to pick him up and the train
was invariably an hour late.
There aren't any passenger trains where I live. There used to be
trains to Beaufort, SC. Used to be passenger trains to/from
Memphis, TN, too but I'm not sure they went to any destinations
I'd like to go and probably not quickly or without frequent
whistle stops in the middle of nowhere.
It's a shame that we don't have a better passenger rail system in
North America. In Europe you can go from just about any town to any
other town and very efficiently. Passenger rail travel in Canada
sucks. There are passenger trains along the main corridors like
Windsor to Toronto to Montreal and across to the west through
Winnipeg to Regina, Calgary or Edmonton to Vancouver. It's a pretty
boring ride across northern Ontario and the prairies, but the routes
through the Rockies to Vancouver have amazing scenery.
Dave Smith wrote:
It's a shame that we don't have a better passenger rail system in
North America. In Europe you can go from just about any town to any
other town and very efficiently. Passenger rail travel in Canada
sucks. There are passenger trains along the main corridors like
Windsor to Toronto to Montreal and across to the west through
Winnipeg to Regina, Calgary or Edmonton to Vancouver. It's a pretty
boring ride across northern Ontario and the prairies, but the routes
through the Rockies to Vancouver have amazing scenery.
I wish we had better too. We did once have the beginnings of one but
it sort of died out. We still do for shipping though.
I think we used them for a lot of troop movements, perhaps as late as
WWII?? My Mom and I used one abour 1974 to get from SC to NY to pickup
a car she inherited. It was ok enough but it was a good thing Mom
packed food as there wasn't any, unlike her last trip 30 years earlier.
Cargo trains are alive and well. Norfolk area is a huge port for
inbound and outbound products to/from USA.
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 01:40:55 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"
<cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
It's a shame that we don't have a better passenger rail system in
North America. In Europe you can go from just about any town to any
other town and very efficiently. Passenger rail travel in Canada
sucks. There are passenger trains along the main corridors like
Windsor to Toronto to Montreal and across to the west through
Winnipeg to Regina, Calgary or Edmonton to Vancouver. It's a pretty
boring ride across northern Ontario and the prairies, but the routes
through the Rockies to Vancouver have amazing scenery.
I wish we had better too. We did once have the beginnings of one but
it sort of died out. We still do for shipping though.
I think we used them for a lot of troop movements, perhaps as late as
WWII?? My Mom and I used one abour 1974 to get from SC to NY to pickup
a car she inherited. It was ok enough but it was a good thing Mom
packed food as there wasn't any, unlike her last trip 30 years earlier.
Cargo trains are alive and well. Norfolk area is a huge port for
inbound and outbound products to/from USA.
It might be getting really quiet there.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:18:23 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-18, dsi1 wrote:
. In China, Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
The Chinese probably watched too much
'Beverly Hillbillies' & 'Gilligan's Island'.
The good news is that the Chinese no longer see the Americans as evil
White Devils. These days, Americans are seen as fat, lazy, stupid, and
slow.
On 2025-04-18 5:00 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:18:23 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:And you think it is just the Chinese?
On 2025-04-18, dsi1 wrote:
. In China, Americans are mostly an abstract concept.
The Chinese probably watched too much
'Beverly Hillbillies' & 'Gilligan's Island'.
The good news is that the Chinese no longer see the Americans as evil
White Devils. These days, Americans are seen as fat, lazy, stupid, and
slow.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 05:12:54 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I used
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
Wikipedia says buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, black pepper, and
herbs. I've never had buttermilk, but with those additions it sounds
good.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 5:47:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 05:12:54 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
Wikipedia says buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, black pepper, and
herbs. I've never had buttermilk, but with those additions it sounds
good.
The dirty little secret about Hidden Valley Ranch dressing is that it >contains a good amount of MSG - as well as disodium inosinate and
disodium guanylate. The last two are used to supercharge the effect of
MSG. Of course, we don't talk about such things in rfc and you never
heard it from me.
https://en.ajinomotofi.com.br/products/ajitide-i-g
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 5:47:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 05:12:54 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I used >>>> to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
Wikipedia says buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, black pepper, and
herbs. I've never had buttermilk, but with those additions it sounds
good.
The dirty little secret about Hidden Valley Ranch dressing is that it contains a good amount of MSG - as well as disodium inosinate and
disodium guanylate. The last two are used to supercharge the effect of
MSG. Of course, we don't talk about such things in rfc and you never
heard it from me.
https://en.ajinomotofi.com.br/products/ajitide-i-g
On 2025-07-18, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 5:47:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 05:12:54 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I used >>>>> to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a >>>>> salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch,The dry packets are not available there in the salad
because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and pretty
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
Wikipedia says buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, black pepper, and
herbs. I've never had buttermilk, but with those additions it sounds
good.
The dirty little secret about Hidden Valley Ranch dressing is that it
contains a good amount of MSG - as well as disodium inosinate and
disodium guanylate. The last two are used to supercharge the effect of
MSG. Of course, we don't talk about such things in rfc and you never
heard it from me.
https://en.ajinomotofi.com.br/products/ajitide-i-g
Which of the ingredients in Hidden Valley Ranch dressing gives it
that weird factory taste? "Artificial flavor"? "Natural flavor"?
When I make ranch from scratch, I use fresh garlic and herbs, not
dried.
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 8:48:21 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-07-18, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 5:47:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 05:12:54 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 3:43:15 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-14 11:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:There's several ingredients involved when you make ranch
I am outside of the US and ranch dressing is quite common here. I used >>>>>> to have a lot of lunches with one of my co-workers and if there was a >>>>>> salad he had ranch dressing. I don't know why anyone would need a >>>>>> packet of something to make it. It is easy enough to make.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 2:49:42 +0000, Bruce wrote:
It's strange that nobody* outside of the US has heard of ranch, >>>>>>>> because when I read the ingredients, it seems good and prettyThe dry packets are not available there in the salad
mainstream.
dressing aisle in the grocery stores? You add mayo
and milk to the packet contents, let it stand about
5 minutes and it's ready to enjoy.
dressing from scratch if you don't have the packets.
Wikipedia says buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, black pepper, and
herbs. I've never had buttermilk, but with those additions it sounds
good.
The dirty little secret about Hidden Valley Ranch dressing is that it
contains a good amount of MSG - as well as disodium inosinate and
disodium guanylate. The last two are used to supercharge the effect of
MSG. Of course, we don't talk about such things in rfc and you never
heard it from me.
https://en.ajinomotofi.com.br/products/ajitide-i-g
Which of the ingredients in Hidden Valley Ranch dressing gives it
that weird factory taste? "Artificial flavor"? "Natural flavor"?
When I make ranch from scratch, I use fresh garlic and herbs, not
dried.
My guess is that it's MSG + I+G. It's quite heavy in Ranch Dressing. My
guess is that a Chinese guy might say that Ranch Dressing has too much
MSG and salt.
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