• USPS Food Drive 5/10/2025

    From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 18:06:24 2025
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy. (They may or may not be participating in your area;
    best to check locally.)

    I make a point of donating to the local food bank a few times a year.
    It's a bonus whenever the USPS offers to pick it up. Be sure to put the
    flag up on the mailbox so they know to pick up your donation.

    The question arises, what should be donated? For one thing, they don't
    want items in glass jars. The issue there is breakage. They do prefer
    canned items have pop-top lids although not everything in cans comes
    with those type lids.

    I already have a number of things in the pantry (dried pasta, canned
    tomato sauce, some dried beans) I will put in the donation bag on 5/10.
    I'll also be making a separate shopping trip to add a few items
    including canned fruit and some canned vegetables.

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive? Are you
    planning to participate?

    Jill

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri May 2 19:05:35 2025
    On 5/2/2025 6:06 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy.  (They may or may not be participating in your area; best to check locally.)

    I make a point of donating to the local food bank a few times a year.
    It's a bonus whenever the USPS offers to pick it up.  Be sure to put the flag up on the mailbox so they know to pick up your donation.

    The question arises, what should be donated?  For one thing, they don't
    want items in glass jars.  The issue there is breakage.  They do prefer canned items have pop-top lids although not everything in cans comes
    with those type lids.

    I already have a number of things in the pantry (dried pasta, canned
    tomato sauce, some dried beans) I will put in the donation bag on 5/10.
    I'll also be making a separate shopping trip to add a few items
    including canned fruit and some canned vegetables.

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive?  Are you
    planning to participate?

    Jill


    We always did in CT, but I've not seen anything here. Many communities
    have cluster boxes so no way to leave anything except on the ground.
    Outgoing mail goes into a slot.

    My box is across the street but there are 48 of them so people have to
    come from other streets for mail here.

    A couple of miles from me there is a box on the road for donations.
    looks like a newspaper box.People leave all sort of both canned and
    fresh picked there.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri May 2 22:33:37 2025
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 22:06:24 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy. (They may or may not be participating in your area;
    best to check locally.)

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive? Are you
    planning to participate?

    Jill


    No notice here as yet. Probably will see it in Saturday's
    delivery.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri May 2 20:05:39 2025
    On 2025-05-02 6:06 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy.  (They may or may not be participating in your area; best to check locally.)

    I make a point of donating to the local food bank a few times a year.
    It's a bonus whenever the USPS offers to pick it up.  Be sure to put the flag up on the mailbox so they know to pick up your donation.

    The question arises, what should be donated?  For one thing, they don't
    want items in glass jars.  The issue there is breakage.  They do prefer canned items have pop-top lids although not everything in cans comes
    with those type lids.

    I already have a number of things in the pantry (dried pasta, canned
    tomato sauce, some dried beans) I will put in the donation bag on 5/10.
    I'll also be making a separate shopping trip to add a few items
    including canned fruit and some canned vegetables.

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive?  Are you
    planning to participate?




    I don't bother with those food drive things because we support the food
    bank at my wife's church. Every month we buy 3 cases of Oasis fruit
    juice tetra packs and other stuff. We get the Oasis drinks at Costco and
    I did a Costco run this morning. She picks up other stuff to donate.


    I used to help out with the food bank but a few years ago the church
    required all their helpers to get a police check. Apparently there is a requirement for people working with vulnerable people are required to
    get this search done. I have nothing to worry about but I strongly
    objected to having to pay for a criminal record search so that I can
    work for free to help out people who probably have one.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Fri May 2 20:00:32 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote on 5/2/2025 5:06 PM:
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy. (They may or may not be participating in your area;
    best to check locally.)

    I make a point of donating to the local food bank a few times a year.
    It's a bonus whenever the USPS offers to pick it up. Be sure to put the
    flag up on the mailbox so they know to pick up your donation.

    The question arises, what should be donated? For one thing, they don't
    want items in glass jars. The issue there is breakage. They do prefer canned items have pop-top lids although not everything in cans comes
    with those type lids.

    I already have a number of things in the pantry (dried pasta, canned
    tomato sauce, some dried beans) I will put in the donation bag on 5/10.
    I'll also be making a separate shopping trip to add a few items
    including canned fruit and some canned vegetables.

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive? Are you
    planning to participate?

    Jill


    Thanks your majesty. I would never have known if your Highness hadn't broadcast this important bulletin. Postal service is very secretive so
    we must rely on you to tell us this sort of news.

    Many thanks

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri May 2 20:09:00 2025
    Dave Smith wrote on 5/2/2025 7:05 PM:
    On 2025-05-02 6:06 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy.  (They may or may not be participating in your
    area; best to check locally.)

    I make a point of donating to the local food bank a few times a year.
    It's a bonus whenever the USPS offers to pick it up.  Be sure to put
    the flag up on the mailbox so they know to pick up your donation.

    The question arises, what should be donated?  For one thing, they
    don't want items in glass jars.  The issue there is breakage.  They
    do prefer canned items have pop-top lids although not everything in
    cans comes with those type lids.

    I already have a number of things in the pantry (dried pasta, canned
    tomato sauce, some dried beans) I will put in the donation bag on
    5/10. I'll also be making a separate shopping trip to add a few items
    including canned fruit and some canned vegetables.

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive?  Are you
    planning to participate?




    I don't bother with those food drive things because we support the food
    bank at my wife's church. Every month we buy 3 cases of Oasis fruit
    juice tetra packs and other stuff. We get the Oasis drinks at Costco and
    I did a Costco run this morning. She picks up other stuff to donate.


    I used to help out with the food bank but a few years ago the church
    required all their helpers to get a police check. Apparently there is a requirement for people working with vulnerable people are required to
    get this search done. I have nothing to worry about but I strongly
    objected to having to pay for a criminal record search so that I can
    work for free to help out people who probably have one.

    Damn. Fuck those people Dave. Everyone knows you are the finest
    policeman in Canada. If they won't take your word for it, tell them to
    fuck off. And dump some trash at their office.

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  • From Larry@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri May 2 20:21:13 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    I used to help out with the food bank but a few years ago the church
    required all their helpers to get a police check.


    Did you check 'em, Officer Dave?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Larry on Fri May 2 20:17:27 2025
    Larry wrote on 5/2/2025 7:21 PM:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    I used to help out with the food bank but a few years ago the church
    required all their helpers to get a police check.


    Did you check 'em, Officer Dave?

    The good Officer is always on the alert for evil-doers.

    Reliable as Dudley Doo-Right himself, and he plays one hell of a pickle
    ball game too.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri May 2 20:44:00 2025
    On 2025-05-02 6:05 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-02 6:06 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    I don't bother with those food drive things because we support the food
    bank at my wife's church.

    Nether do I. I donate money as the Food Bank can buy far more per dollar
    than I can.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat May 3 08:12:49 2025
    On 5/2/2025 7:05 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 6:06 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy.  (They may or may not be participating in your
    area; best to check locally.)

    I make a point of donating to the local food bank a few times a year.
    It's a bonus whenever the USPS offers to pick it up.  Be sure to put
    the flag up on the mailbox so they know to pick up your donation.

    The question arises, what should be donated?  For one thing, they
    don't want items in glass jars.  The issue there is breakage.  They do
    prefer canned items have pop-top lids although not everything in cans
    comes with those type lids.

    I already have a number of things in the pantry (dried pasta, canned
    tomato sauce, some dried beans) I will put in the donation bag on
    5/10. I'll also be making a separate shopping trip to add a few items
    including canned fruit and some canned vegetables.

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive?  Are you
    planning to participate?

    Jill


    We always did in CT, but I've not seen anything here.  Many communities
    have cluster boxes so no way to leave anything except on the ground.
    Outgoing mail goes into a slot.

    The houses here have standard size mailboxes (mine is across the street
    next to the mailbox for the house across the street) but the food
    donations are still left in a bag on the ground.

    My box is across the street but there are 48 of them so people have to
    come from other streets for mail here.

    That doesn't sound very convenient for the people who live on the other streets.

    A couple of miles from me there is a box on the road for donations.
    looks like a newspaper box.People leave all sort of both canned and
    fresh picked there.

    That's nice. :)

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 3 13:05:01 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 7:05 PM, Ed P wrote:

    My box is across the street but there are 48 of them so people have to
    come from other streets for mail here.

    That doesn't sound very convenient for the people who live on the other streets.

    But it's very convenient for the post office. Who do you think
    gets the final say? It's good for the developer, too. They
    don't have to faff about putting a mailbox on or in front of
    each house.

    IIRC "She Who Must Not Be Named" had some problem with her cluster
    box and we had an extended discussion of the subject some years back.

    I live in an older neighborhood, which developed gradually over
    several decades. The mailboxes are all on my side of the street,
    which is convenient for me. The street isn't so busy that it's
    a hazard for my neighbors to cross the street -- unlike the first
    house I owned, which I bought on a two-lane road that was converted
    to a four-lane road a couple years after we moved in.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 3 08:36:24 2025
    On 5/2/2025 8:05 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-02 6:06 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy.  (They may or may not be participating in your
    area; best to check locally.)

    I make a point of donating to the local food bank a few times a year.
    It's a bonus whenever the USPS offers to pick it up.  Be sure to put
    the flag up on the mailbox so they know to pick up your donation.

    The question arises, what should be donated?  For one thing, they
    don't want items in glass jars.  The issue there is breakage.  They do
    prefer canned items have pop-top lids although not everything in cans
    comes with those type lids.

    I already have a number of things in the pantry (dried pasta, canned
    tomato sauce, some dried beans) I will put in the donation bag on
    5/10. I'll also be making a separate shopping trip to add a few items
    including canned fruit and some canned vegetables.

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive?  Are you
    planning to participate?




    I don't bother with those food drive things because we support the food
    bank at my wife's church.  Every month we buy 3 cases of Oasis fruit
    juice tetra packs and other stuff. We get the Oasis drinks at Costco and
    I did a Costco run this morning. She picks up other stuff to donate.

    As long as it gets to the folks who need it, the delivery venue isn't
    all that important. Unless they're like the greedy losers who caused
    Angel Food Ministries to tank.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Food_Ministries

    I used to help out with the food bank but a few years ago the church
    required all their helpers to get a police check. Apparently there is a requirement for people working with vulnerable people are required to
    get this search done.  I have nothing to worry about but I strongly
    objected to having to pay for a criminal record search so that I can
    work for free to help out people who probably have one.

    They probably want to make sure the volunteers aren't going to steal the
    food donations (or money, if they're involved in the accounting end of
    things) rather than help with the distributions.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat May 3 13:10:19 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 1:09:00 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote on 5/2/2025 7:05 PM:
    On 2025-05-02 6:06 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy.  (They may or may not be participating in your
    area; best to check locally.)

    I make a point of donating to the local food bank a few times a year.
    It's a bonus whenever the USPS offers to pick it up.  Be sure to put
    the flag up on the mailbox so they know to pick up your donation.

    The question arises, what should be donated?  For one thing, they
    don't want items in glass jars.  The issue there is breakage.  They >>> do prefer canned items have pop-top lids although not everything in
    cans comes with those type lids.

    I already have a number of things in the pantry (dried pasta, canned
    tomato sauce, some dried beans) I will put in the donation bag on
    5/10. I'll also be making a separate shopping trip to add a few items
    including canned fruit and some canned vegetables.

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive?  Are you
    planning to participate?




    I don't bother with those food drive things because we support the food
    bank at my wife's church.  Every month we buy 3 cases of Oasis fruit
    juice tetra packs and other stuff. We get the Oasis drinks at Costco and
    I did a Costco run this morning. She picks up other stuff to donate.


    I used to help out with the food bank but a few years ago the church
    required all their helpers to get a police check. Apparently there is a
    requirement for people working with vulnerable people are required to
    get this search done.  I have nothing to worry about but I strongly
    objected to having to pay for a criminal record search so that I can
    work for free to help out people who probably have one.

    Damn. Fuck those people Dave. Everyone knows you are the finest
    policeman in Canada. If they won't take your word for it, tell them to
    fuck off. And dump some trash at their office.


    Offiser Dave is just being a bloviating ass, Sire Hank...

    I've volunteered for years, and in EVERY single case, potential
    volunteers are required to undergo a criminal background check at least
    st the state level - and several required a Federal - level check, with fingerprints being vetted by the FBI in DC...

    In Offiser Dave's case, the church also serves/has present children, and
    they are *specifically* screening to exclude anyone with a child
    predation criminal record...

    They also simply want to confirm that "you are who you say you are"...

    If they didn't, the church is open to MASSIVE criminal/civil penalties
    if an "incident" occurs...

    Anyways, I'm sure that church is relieved to not have the insufferable
    GROUCH Offiser Dave around, lol...!!!

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat May 3 13:19:07 2025
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 22:33:37 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 2 May 2025 22:06:24 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I found a card from the USPS in the mailbox today:

    https://postimg.cc/s19b5Pxm

    The second Saturday in May, the US Postal Service will be collecting
    food for the needy. (They may or may not be participating in your area;
    best to check locally.)

    Anyone else in the US know about the upcoming food drive? Are you
    planning to participate?

    Jill


    No notice here as yet. Probably will see it in Saturday's
    delivery.


    Oh joy! Widder Jill is once again "virtue - signaling" that she is
    "Lady Bountiful" by bragging on herself that she is "donating" a small
    bag of expired crap "food" to the "poor peasants"...

    Was the original cost of the food even FIVE bucks - I bet NOT...!!!

    Why on EARTH would anyone even bother to post something so inane,
    lol...!!!???

    She's simply fucking pathetic...

    <SMH>

    😁

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 3 09:54:36 2025
    On 2025-05-03 8:36 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 8:05 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I used to help out with the food bank but a few years ago the church
    required all their helpers to get a police check. Apparently there is
    a requirement for people working with vulnerable people are required
    to get this search done.  I have nothing to worry about but I strongly
    objected to having to pay for a criminal record search so that I can
    work for free to help out people who probably have one.

    They probably want to make sure the volunteers aren't going to steal the
    food donations (or money, if they're involved in the accounting end of things) rather than help with the distributions.


    It's more about protecting themselves from liability in case someone
    accuses some in the organization of sexually molesting them. There are
    some messed up people using those food banks and messed up people have a reputation for making false allegations. There are also some who will
    use sex to get favours, but then they might turn around later and the
    once consensual action will be reported as a sexual assault. It's not a guarantee that it won't happen, but it helps with the civil liability.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 13:41:38 2025
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    [...] the church also serves/has present children, and
    they are *specifically* screening to exclude anyone
    with a child predation criminal record...

    True. I had to have a criminal records check to be a
    Cub Scout leader. But as they pointed out during the
    'Woodsmaster' course later, that just proves we were
    all clever enough not to be caught yet.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 13:43:07 2025
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    Why on EARTH would anyone even bother to post something so inane,

    Well, she does have a rather dedicated fan base.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 3 13:36:10 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    IIRC "She Who Must Not Be Named" had some problem
    with her cluster box and we had an extended discussion
    of the subject some years back.

    Some sort of catch-22 problem. It seems they put a notice
    for where to go for the mailbox key inside the locked box.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 13:56:35 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 13:43:07 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    Why on EARTH would anyone even bother to post something so inane,

    Well, she does have a rather dedicated fan base.


    Yes, in a "she provides cheap laughs" sorta way...

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 10:02:43 2025
    On 2025-05-03 9:41 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    [...] the church also serves/has present children, and
    they are *specifically* screening to exclude anyone
    with a child predation criminal record...

    True. I had to have a criminal records check to be a
    Cub Scout leader. But as they pointed out during the
    'Woodsmaster' course later, that just proves we were
    all clever enough not to be caught yet.



    God bless you for being a scout leader. I don't know how they manage to
    get men to do that these days, that and Big Brothers.
    Back in the mid 70s when I was a recent graduate and looking for work my
    wife and I applied for a job as house parents at a home for girls. The interviewers asked me how I would react to accusations of molesting one
    of the girls. I told them it was unlikely to happen. They said they
    didn't think I would do it but that I would likely be accused.
    Apparently girls in situations like that tend to make allegations like
    that to get authority figures into trouble.

    Things have changed. Apparently back then it was accepted that young
    trouble girls would make false allegations to get men into trouble. Now
    the accepted attitude seems to be that men are all natural predators and
    that the kids' troubles are the result of having been molested.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 14:25:00 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 13:41:38 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    [...] the church also serves/has present children, and
    they are *specifically* screening to exclude anyone
    with a child predation criminal record...

    True. I had to have a criminal records check to be a
    Cub Scout leader. But as they pointed out during the
    'Woodsmaster' course later, that just proves we were
    all clever enough not to be caught yet.


    My Cub Scout leader, a "pillar of the community", was arrested for "pill
    - pushing", e. g. selling amphetamines to teenagers...

    The pack was then disbanded...

    :-\

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 3 11:02:07 2025
    On 5/3/2025 9:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 7:05 PM, Ed P wrote:

    My box is across the street but there are 48 of them so people have to
    come from other streets for mail here.

    That doesn't sound very convenient for the people who live on the other
    streets.

    But it's very convenient for the post office. Who do you think
    gets the final say? It's good for the developer, too. They
    don't have to faff about putting a mailbox on or in front of
    each house.

    IIRC "She Who Must Not Be Named" had some problem with her cluster
    box and we had an extended discussion of the subject some years back.

    I'm not afraid to say her name; Gary is the one who thought we'd all
    keep talking about her after she left. That didn't happen. She does
    get an occasional mention. Julie seemed to think she couldn't get a
    copy of her mailbox key from the Post Office, for reasons which were
    never made clear. Then again, she was always making excuses for every
    little thing that was f'd up in her life.

    I live in an older neighborhood, which developed gradually over
    several decades. The mailboxes are all on my side of the street,
    which is convenient for me. The street isn't so busy that it's
    a hazard for my neighbors to cross the street -- unlike the first
    house I owned, which I bought on a two-lane road that was converted
    to a four-lane road a couple years after we moved in.

    Crossing a four lane road to get to the mailbox would be problematic.

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 3 11:35:02 2025
    On 5/3/2025 11:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Crossing a four lane road to get to the mailbox would be problematic.

    Eh. I was younger and spryer back then.

    Seems like it would also depend on the level of traffic. :)

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 3 12:15:13 2025
    On 5/3/2025 12:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 11:02 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 9:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    IIRC "She Who Must Not Be Named" had some problem with her cluster
    box and we had an extended discussion of the subject some years back.

    I'm not afraid to say her name; Gary is the one who thought we'd all
    keep talking about her after she left.  That didn't happen.


    There was a little more to it than that.  He would occasionally mention
    her in an obvious attempt to get people talking about her. When I
    pointed that out he tried to make it look like I was talking about her
    when I was quite clearly talking about him and his tactics.

    You probably know he lurks here and is likely to have responded to that.

    I don't actually care about Gary's opinions.>
    I live in an older neighborhood, which developed gradually over
    several decades.  The mailboxes are all on my side of the street,
    which is convenient for me.  The street isn't so busy that it's
    a hazard for my neighbors to cross the street -- unlike the first
    house I owned, which I bought on a two-lane road that was converted
    to a four-lane road a couple years after we moved in.


    I hope you postal service is more rational that ours.  My mail box used
    to get knocked over once in a while. I thought maybe it was too close to
    the road so after having to replace it for the 4th time I moved it back
    a bit, less than 8".  Then I didn't get any mail for close to a week.
    There was always mail on Wednesdays. That was the day flyers came.  When
    I still didn't get any I called the post office in town to see if there
    was a problem.

    There was indeed a problem.  My mail box had been moved and was too far
    from the road. Really?  8" and it is too far from the spot which had apparently been too close to the road because people kept hitting it? I
    asked how far it hat to be. The answer was "in the line of traffic" That
    was BS because line of traffic would mean on the road. They could not
    tell me how high or how far from the road it had to be.

    Then I asked why thy didn't notify me of the problem. They had. They
    sent me a letter. So then I had to ask if they were serious, that they
    had sent me a letter to tell me that they were not delivering my mail.
    Yep. That's what they did and when I went down there to pick it up there
    was the letter.  So I asked again about how high and how far from the
    road it had to be but no one seemed to know. However... sitting on the counter was a pamphlet with the information.  I had a look at it and got
    the figures. My new location was within the distances they require. Curiously, one of my neighbours has a mail box mounted about a foot and
    a half higher than their limit and is at least 3' from the road.


    A few years later I got a nasty gram after a safety inspection noted an
    over hanging branch and they wanted me to remove it.  No can do. It is
    my neighbour's tree and hanging over town property so not my responsibility.  Besides, it was too high for me to reach and high
    enough that full sized trucks going up and down the road don't hit it. I don't know why it would be a problem for the contractor's car.



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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 3 12:06:20 2025
    On 2025-05-03 11:02 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 9:05 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    IIRC "She Who Must Not Be Named" had some problem with her cluster
    box and we had an extended discussion of the subject some years back.

    I'm not afraid to say her name; Gary is the one who thought we'd all
    keep talking about her after she left.  That didn't happen.


    There was a little more to it than that. He would occasionally mention
    her in an obvious attempt to get people talking about her. When I
    pointed that out he tried to make it look like I was talking about her
    when I was quite clearly talking about him and his tactics.

    You probably know he lurks here and is likely to have responded to that.



    I live in an older neighborhood, which developed gradually over
    several decades.  The mailboxes are all on my side of the street,
    which is convenient for me.  The street isn't so busy that it's
    a hazard for my neighbors to cross the street -- unlike the first
    house I owned, which I bought on a two-lane road that was converted
    to a four-lane road a couple years after we moved in.


    I hope you postal service is more rational that ours. My mail box used
    to get knocked over once in a while. I thought maybe it was too close to
    the road so after having to replace it for the 4th time I moved it back
    a bit, less than 8". Then I didn't get any mail for close to a week.
    There was always mail on Wednesdays. That was the day flyers came. When
    I still didn't get any I called the post office in town to see if there
    was a problem.

    There was indeed a problem. My mail box had been moved and was too far
    from the road. Really? 8" and it is too far from the spot which had
    apparently been too close to the road because people kept hitting it? I
    asked how far it hat to be. The answer was "in the line of traffic" That
    was BS because line of traffic would mean on the road. They could not
    tell me how high or how far from the road it had to be.

    Then I asked why thy didn't notify me of the problem. They had. They
    sent me a letter. So then I had to ask if they were serious, that they
    had sent me a letter to tell me that they were not delivering my mail.
    Yep. That's what they did and when I went down there to pick it up there
    was the letter. So I asked again about how high and how far from the
    road it had to be but no one seemed to know. However... sitting on the
    counter was a pamphlet with the information. I had a look at it and got
    the figures. My new location was within the distances they require.
    Curiously, one of my neighbours has a mail box mounted about a foot and
    a half higher than their limit and is at least 3' from the road.


    A few years later I got a nasty gram after a safety inspection noted an
    over hanging branch and they wanted me to remove it. No can do. It is
    my neighbour's tree and hanging over town property so not my
    responsibility. Besides, it was too high for me to reach and high
    enough that full sized trucks going up and down the road don't hit it. I
    don't know why it would be a problem for the contractor's car.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 3 15:18:01 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Crossing a four lane road to get to the mailbox would be problematic.

    Eh. I was younger and spryer back then.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 3 17:32:11 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I hope you postal service is more rational that ours.

    Since we have a paved road, the requirement is the width of the
    shoulder plus one foot. That would put it down on the side of the
    drainage ditch and require a taller post. They seem satisfied with
    it being just off the official shoulder.

    The requirements are easy to find online.

    We've had our mailbox taken out once or twice. Part of the joy
    of living in the sticks. At least we don't have yahoos driving
    along with a baseball bat.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 3 17:25:38 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 11:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Crossing a four lane road to get to the mailbox would be problematic.

    Eh. I was younger and spryer back then.

    Seems like it would also depend on the level of traffic. :)

    Well, they don't expand a two-land road to four lanes unless
    there's a fair amount of traffic.

    They reworked it sometime in the last 28 years; it's now
    one lane of traffic in each direction, a dedicated left-turn
    lane, a bike lane in each direction, and some sort of narrow
    lane with diagonal white lines. (Which usually means "don't
    drive in this lane". Perhaps it's to keep jackwagons from
    zooming up the right and crashing into people in the
    right-turn lane at the next intersection.)

    Speaking of crashing, on Wednesday I enjoyed a hit-and-run
    rear-ending on the freeway. We were all slowing down because
    of some earlier accident and the guy behind me didn't get the
    memo. I got him good, though. He left his front bumper cover
    and part of the grille under the back of my car. Pity we don't
    have front license plates here. He pulled over (not close enough
    for me to read his license plate), but when I didn't get right
    out of my car he drove off. If we had a proper surveillance state,
    we could find him on a nearby camera.

    I've had the car less than three weeks. *sigh* This Wednesday
    I have an appointment at the body shop just to get the estimate.
    It'll be more time while they round up the major parts they'll
    need: perhaps an entire new hatch door, bumper parts, exhaust, etc.
    I don't know if they'll fix the trailer hitch that my husband
    just busted his ass to install.

    I'm fine. It just felt like a strong guy pushed me in the small
    of my back, since I had the lumbar support cranked up to 11.

    Ob food: Since the hatch won't open, I'm putting my groceries
    on the back seat. Not very convenient, but adequate. (I suppose
    if I want to get potting soil for my many patio plants, I'll rent
    the truck at Home Depot.)

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 3 13:40:17 2025
    On 2025-05-03 1:25 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:


    Seems like it would also depend on the level of traffic. :)

    Well, they don't expand a two-land road to four lanes unless
    there's a fair amount of traffic.



    That is the way it usually works, though they will sometimes put in a
    four lane road if there are plans for development in the area. It is
    definitely more common for them to be reactive than proactive.


    I've had the car less than three weeks. *sigh* This Wednesday
    I have an appointment at the body shop just to get the estimate.
    It'll be more time while they round up the major parts they'll
    need: perhaps an entire new hatch door, bumper parts, exhaust, etc.
    I don't know if they'll fix the trailer hitch that my husband
    just busted his ass to install.


    I hate when that happens. I had a similar incident back in the 70s. It
    was my first new car. We were in Toronto for the weekend for a family Thanksgiving. We had been to a play my BiL was starring in and we stayed
    at his rented room while he, SiL and their kids stayed with the parents.
    We were a block and a half from the inlaw's house. It was a windy road, covered with fallen leaves and it was raining. I saw a car coming around
    the bend and knew he was going to lose control. I pulled over and
    stopped but he slide right into me and wrapped his little Toyota around
    the front of my new car.




    I'm fine. It just felt like a strong guy pushed me in the small
    of my back, since I had the lumbar support cranked up to 11.

    Cars are so much safer than they used to be.


    Ob food: Since the hatch won't open, I'm putting my groceries
    on the back seat. Not very convenient, but adequate. (I suppose
    if I want to get potting soil for my many patio plants, I'll rent
    the truck at Home Depot.)

    I wonder about people who buy pickups thinking they will need them to
    haul building and gardening supplies. Home Depot and some other places
    rent trucks pretty cheaply. Even if you have to pay a delivery fee it is generally cheaper than the extra cost of owning a pickup.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sun May 4 04:12:58 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 12:06:20 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    There was a little more to it than that. He would occasionally mention
    her in an obvious attempt to get people talking about her. When I
    pointed that out he tried to make it look like I was talking about her
    when I was quite clearly talking about him and his tactics.

    Who is this "her" you're talking about? Oh, Julie! Still, after all
    these years? So Gary was right.

    <the usual tldr by Dave Smith snipped>

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Sun May 4 04:13:56 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 12:15:13 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 12:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 11:02 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

    I'm not afraid to say her name; Gary is the one who thought we'd all
    keep talking about her after she left.  That didn't happen.

    There was a little more to it than that.  He would occasionally mention
    her in an obvious attempt to get people talking about her. When I
    pointed that out he tried to make it look like I was talking about her
    when I was quite clearly talking about him and his tactics.

    You probably know he lurks here and is likely to have responded to that.

    I don't actually care about Gary's opinions.

    Strange then that you brought him up.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 3 21:39:19 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I wonder about people who buy pickups thinking they will need them to
    haul building and gardening supplies. Home Depot and some other places
    rent trucks pretty cheaply. Even if you have to pay a delivery fee it is generally cheaper than the extra cost of owning a pickup.

    What extra cost?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 03:51:42 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    I've had the car less than three weeks. *sigh* This Wednesday
    I have an appointment at the body shop just to get the estimate.
    It'll be more time while they round up the major parts they'll
    need: perhaps an entire new hatch door, bumper parts, exhaust, etc.
    I don't know if they'll fix the trailer hitch that my husband
    just busted his ass to install.

    I'm sorry to hear all of that. :(

    Ob food: Since the hatch won't open, I'm putting my groceries
    on the back seat. Not very convenient, but adequate. (I suppose
    if I want to get potting soil for my many patio plants, I'll rent
    the truck at Home Depot.)

    Ah, to be young again. I'd just be pissed instead of pissed and sorely inconvenienced.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 07:37:04 2025
    On 5/3/2025 1:25 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 11:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Crossing a four lane road to get to the mailbox would be problematic.

    Eh. I was younger and spryer back then.


    Speaking of crashing, on Wednesday I enjoyed a hit-and-run
    rear-ending on the freeway. We were all slowing down because
    of some earlier accident and the guy behind me didn't get the
    memo. I got him good, though. He left his front bumper cover
    and part of the grille under the back of my car. Pity we don't
    have front license plates here. He pulled over (not close enough
    for me to read his license plate), but when I didn't get right
    out of my car he drove off. If we had a proper surveillance state,
    we could find him on a nearby camera.

    Did you report it to the police? There may be cameras you couldn't see.
    Wanna bet he didn't have insurance?

    I've had the car less than three weeks. *sigh* This Wednesday
    I have an appointment at the body shop just to get the estimate.
    It'll be more time while they round up the major parts they'll
    need: perhaps an entire new hatch door, bumper parts, exhaust, etc.
    I don't know if they'll fix the trailer hitch that my husband
    just busted his ass to install.

    I'm so sorry to hear that.

    I'm fine. It just felt like a strong guy pushed me in the small
    of my back, since I had the lumbar support cranked up to 11.

    Thank goodness you weren't hurt! At least he didn't hit hard enough to
    shove your car forward into the one in front of you.

    Ob food: Since the hatch won't open, I'm putting my groceries
    on the back seat. Not very convenient, but adequate. (I suppose
    if I want to get potting soil for my many patio plants, I'll rent
    the truck at Home Depot.)

    It's still an inconvenience. I'm sorry you have to deal with it.

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun May 4 11:50:47 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 1:25 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 11:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Crossing a four lane road to get to the mailbox would be problematic. >>>>
    Eh. I was younger and spryer back then.


    Speaking of crashing, on Wednesday I enjoyed a hit-and-run
    rear-ending on the freeway. We were all slowing down because
    of some earlier accident and the guy behind me didn't get the
    memo. I got him good, though. He left his front bumper cover
    and part of the grille under the back of my car. Pity we don't
    have front license plates here. He pulled over (not close enough
    for me to read his license plate), but when I didn't get right
    out of my car he drove off. If we had a proper surveillance state,
    we could find him on a nearby camera.

    Did you report it to the police? There may be cameras you couldn't see.
    Wanna bet he didn't have insurance?

    Of course I did. I need the state police report number to make
    an insurance claim.

    He was probably too far down the road to make a positive ID before
    he encountered a traffic camera; we're not very urban out here.
    If memory serves, the municipality nearest to where the accident
    happened rejected traffic cameras on privacy grounds.

    Unless he was not in compliance with Michigan law, he has
    personal liability and property damage. If he doesn't have
    collision coverage, there's no point in him stopping. I hope
    his spouse gives him hell about it and he has to pay through
    the nose.

    Frankly, I don't know if it was a man. It all happened so quickly
    (followed by what seemed like endless waiting on the left-hand
    shoulder for the staties to do their thing).

    I've had the car less than three weeks. *sigh* This Wednesday
    I have an appointment at the body shop just to get the estimate.
    It'll be more time while they round up the major parts they'll
    need: perhaps an entire new hatch door, bumper parts, exhaust, etc.
    I don't know if they'll fix the trailer hitch that my husband
    just busted his ass to install.

    I'm so sorry to hear that.

    I'm fine. It just felt like a strong guy pushed me in the small
    of my back, since I had the lumbar support cranked up to 11.

    Thank goodness you weren't hurt! At least he didn't hit hard enough to
    shove your car forward into the one in front of you.

    Ob food: Since the hatch won't open, I'm putting my groceries
    on the back seat. Not very convenient, but adequate. (I suppose
    if I want to get potting soil for my many patio plants, I'll rent
    the truck at Home Depot.)

    It's still an inconvenience. I'm sorry you have to deal with it.

    Life is filled with inconveniences. I'm a little sorry I sold
    my death-trap (brake fluid leak) Highlander; I could have my
    husband top up the brake fluid and keep driving it for a little
    while.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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