• Re: Fwd: stew

    From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Fri May 2 20:21:18 2025
    BryanGSimmons wrote on 5/2/2025 8:10 PM:
    On 4/30/2025 10:25 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-01, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    OK, we know from previous posts that anything anal is a no go.

    Do you feel that way about oral sex too,

    It seems to me like something animals might
    do because they don't know any better.

    That is certainly not my idea of 'Happily ever after'.

    How the fuck is your wife happy if she never receives oral sex? My god,
    the woman must not even know what it's like. Will you be a real man, or
    will she die without experiencing her birthright? BE A FUCKING MAN,
    DUFFY. Get your face between her legs and repeat the following words.
    "It's so pretty, and it smells so good, I just have to kiss it, OK?"
    Even if you don't fancy her reciprocating because you are one of the
    rare guys who doesn't desire fellatio, do it for her. Until you've
    given a woman an orgasm with your mouth...it's hard to believe that you
    even admitted that shit. That's *way* more aberrant than anything John
    K. or Greg M. has posted about. Everyone should point at you and laugh because you are a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy. Jesus, you are
    a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy.


    I've heard lots of black guys don't eat pussy.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Sat May 3 02:56:05 2025
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.

    Did you watch any of the hockey game in 'Daa Loo'?
    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered that I
    honestly could not tell if the 'singer' was
    trying to insult any Canadians present.

    Then he butchered the American anthem even worse,
    so that at least made me feel a bit better.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 2 23:37:19 2025
    On 2025-05-02 10:56 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.

    Did you watch any of the hockey game in 'Daa Loo'?
    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered that I
    honestly could not tell if the 'singer' was
    trying to insult any Canadians present.

    Then he butchered the American anthem even worse,
    so that at least made me feel a bit better.



    Most of them butcher the national anthems. It's bad enough in hockey but
    it's even worse in football. I wish those professional singers they
    hire were able to hit and hold a note instead of sliding into it or
    warbling all around it.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 13:28:06 2025
    On 03 May 2025 02:56:05 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.

    Did you watch any of the hockey game in 'Daa Loo'?
    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered that I
    honestly could not tell if the 'singer' was
    trying to insult any Canadians present.

    Then he butchered the American anthem even worse,
    so that at least made me feel a bit better.

    If I understand correctly, that singer will soon only have to practice
    one anthem for the two countries.

    --
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sat May 3 13:49:10 2025
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 23:37:19 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-05-02 10:56 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.

    Did you watch any of the hockey game in 'Daa Loo'?
    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered that I
    honestly could not tell if the 'singer' was
    trying to insult any Canadians present.

    Then he butchered the American anthem even worse,
    so that at least made me feel a bit better.

    Most of them butcher the national anthems. It's bad enough in hockey but
    it's even worse in football. I wish those professional singers they
    hire were able to hit and hold a note instead of sliding into it or
    warbling all around it.

    Just stop with those silly antiquated songs. Singing about "the land
    of the free and the home of the brave" and then having Donald Trump
    for President is pure irony.


    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat May 3 07:41:44 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 1:21:18 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    BryanGSimmons wrote on 5/2/2025 8:10 PM:
    On 4/30/2025 10:25 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-01, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    OK, we know from previous posts that anything anal is a no go.

      Do you feel that way about oral sex too,

    It seems to me like something animals might
    do because they don't know any better.

    That is certainly not my idea of 'Happily ever after'.

    How the fuck is your wife happy if she never receives oral sex?  My god,
    the woman must not even know what it's like.  Will you be a real man, or
    will she die without experiencing her birthright?  BE A FUCKING MAN,
    DUFFY.  Get your face between her legs and repeat the following words.
    "It's so pretty, and it smells so good, I just have to kiss it, OK?"
    Even if you don't fancy her reciprocating because you are one of the
    rare guys who doesn't desire fellatio, do it for her.  Until you've
    given a woman an orgasm with your mouth...it's hard to believe that you
    even admitted that shit.  That's *way* more aberrant than anything John
    K. or Greg M. has posted about.  Everyone should point at you and laugh
    because you are a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy. Jesus, you are
    a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy.


    I've heard lots of black guys don't eat pussy.


    The only black guy that don't like munching on pussy is Obammy,
    LOLZ...!!!

    But since wifey Moo - shelle sports a strap - on, he really digs "going
    down" on that...

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Sat May 3 07:35:36 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 1:10:54 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 4/30/2025 10:25 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-01, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    OK, we know from previous posts that anything anal is a no go.

    Do you feel that way about oral sex too,

    It seems to me like something animals might
    do because they don't know any better.

    That is certainly not my idea of 'Happily ever after'.

    How the fuck is your wife happy if she never receives oral sex? My god,
    the woman must not even know what it's like. Will you be a real man, or
    will she die without experiencing her birthright? BE A FUCKING MAN,
    DUFFY. Get your face between her legs and repeat the following words.
    "It's so pretty, and it smells so good, I just have to kiss it, OK?"
    Even if you don't fancy her reciprocating because you are one of the
    rare guys who doesn't desire fellatio, do it for her. Until you've
    given a woman an orgasm with your mouth...it's hard to believe that you
    even admitted that shit. That's *way* more aberrant than anything John
    K. or Greg M. has posted about. Everyone should point at you and laugh because you are a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy. Jesus, you are
    a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy.


    Mike should get a copy of Henry Miller's infamous 1934 "dirty novel"
    Tropic of Cancer (Its publication in 1961 in the United States by Grove
    Press led to obscenity trials that tested American laws on pornography
    in the early 1960s. In 1964, the U.S. Supreme Court declared the book non-obscene. It is regarded as an important work of 20th-century) and
    read this erotic passage out loud to her:

    "O Tania, where now is that warm cunt of yours, those fat, heavy
    garters, those soft, bulging thighs?

    There is a bone in my prick six inches long. I will ream out every
    wrinkle in your cunt, Tania, big with seed...

    I will send you home to your Sylvester with an ache in your belly and
    your womb turned inside out...

    Your Sylvester! Yes, he knows how to build a fire,
    but I know how to inflame a cunt...

    I shoot hot bolts into you, Tania, I make your ovaries incandescent..."

    😋

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    GM



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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat May 3 07:46:58 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 1:21:18 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    BryanGSimmons wrote on 5/2/2025 8:10 PM:
    On 4/30/2025 10:25 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-01, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    OK, we know from previous posts that anything anal is a no go.

      Do you feel that way about oral sex too,

    It seems to me like something animals might
    do because they don't know any better.

    That is certainly not my idea of 'Happily ever after'.

    How the fuck is your wife happy if she never receives oral sex?  My god,
    the woman must not even know what it's like.  Will you be a real man, or
    will she die without experiencing her birthright?  BE A FUCKING MAN,
    DUFFY.  Get your face between her legs and repeat the following words.
    "It's so pretty, and it smells so good, I just have to kiss it, OK?"
    Even if you don't fancy her reciprocating because you are one of the
    rare guys who doesn't desire fellatio, do it for her.  Until you've
    given a woman an orgasm with your mouth...it's hard to believe that you
    even admitted that shit.  That's *way* more aberrant than anything John
    K. or Greg M. has posted about.  Everyone should point at you and laugh
    because you are a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy. Jesus, you are
    a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy.


    I've heard lots of black guys don't eat pussy.


    Just like I've heard Jewish gals eschew performing fellatio...

    ( although I don't think JILL is of the Hebrew "persuasion", LOLZ...!!!
    )

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Sat May 3 19:53:32 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 09:40:35 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 23:37:19 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    Most of them butcher the national anthems. It's bad enough in hockey but >>>it's even worse in football. I wish those professional singers they
    hire were able to hit and hold a note instead of sliding into it or >>>warbling all around it.

    Just stop with those silly antiquated songs. Singing about "the land
    of the free and the home of the brave" and then having Donald Trump
    for President is pure irony.

    Although you have to be pretty brave to live here, these days.

    Yes, it must be unpleasant to live under redneck rule.

    I believe "land of the free" is semantically equivalent to "land
    of the oligarchs". They certainly have plenty of freedom.

    Strange that so many "battlers" have voted in favour of that. Battlers
    being pretty much the opposite of oligarchs.

    --
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 09:40:35 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 2 May 2025 23:37:19 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-05-02 10:56 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.

    Did you watch any of the hockey game in 'Daa Loo'?
    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered that I
    honestly could not tell if the 'singer' was
    trying to insult any Canadians present.

    Then he butchered the American anthem even worse,
    so that at least made me feel a bit better.

    Most of them butcher the national anthems. It's bad enough in hockey but >>it's even worse in football. I wish those professional singers they
    hire were able to hit and hold a note instead of sliding into it or >>warbling all around it.

    Just stop with those silly antiquated songs. Singing about "the land
    of the free and the home of the brave" and then having Donald Trump
    for President is pure irony.

    Although you have to be pretty brave to live here, these days.

    I believe "land of the free" is semantically equivalent to "land
    of the oligarchs". They certainly have plenty of freedom.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Sat May 3 12:10:47 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:32:42 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 2:35 AM, gm wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 1:10:54 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 4/30/2025 10:25 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-01, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    OK, we know from previous posts that anything anal is a no go.

      Do you feel that way about oral sex too,

    It seems to me like something animals might
    do because they don't know any better.

    That is certainly not my idea of 'Happily ever after'.

    How the fuck is your wife happy if she never receives oral sex?  My god, >>> the woman must not even know what it's like.  Will you be a real man, or >>> will she die without experiencing her birthright?  BE A FUCKING MAN,
    DUFFY.  Get your face between her legs and repeat the following words.
    "It's so pretty, and it smells so good, I just have to kiss it, OK?"
    Even if you don't fancy her reciprocating because you are one of the
    rare guys who doesn't desire fellatio, do it for her.  Until you've
    given a woman an orgasm with your mouth...it's hard to believe that you
    even admitted that shit.  That's *way* more aberrant than anything John >>> K. or Greg M. has posted about.  Everyone should point at you and laugh >>> because you are a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy. Jesus, you are >>> a heterosexual guy who doesn't eat pussy.


    Mike should get a copy of Henry Miller's infamous 1934 "dirty novel"
    Tropic of Cancer (Its publication in 1961 in the United States by Grove
    Press led to obscenity trials that tested American laws on pornography
    in the early 1960s. In 1964, the U.S. Supreme Court declared the book
    non-obscene. It is regarded as an important work of 20th-century) and
    read this erotic passage out loud to her:

    "O Tania, where now is that warm cunt of yours, those fat, heavy
    garters, those soft, bulging thighs?

    There is a bone in my prick six inches long. I will ream out every
    wrinkle in your cunt, Tania, big with seed...

    I will send you home to your Sylvester with an ache in your belly and
    your womb turned inside out...

    Your Sylvester! Yes, he knows how to build a fire,
    but I know how to inflame a cunt...

    I shoot hot bolts into you, Tania, I make your ovaries incandescent..."

    😋

    Gee. One would almost think that you're going bi in your old age.



    Naw, thankfully, one of the characters in the book (a sailor), is a
    homo, lol...

    I actually bought the paperback of this book in 1968 "under the counter"
    in a magazine shop in Rock Island, IL...


    😋

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    GM

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Sat May 3 13:26:32 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 12:21:47 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/2/2025 9:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.

    Did you watch any of the hockey game in 'Daa Loo'?

    I almost never see hockey. We don't have TV, and I *certainly* don't go
    to games. I might make an exception for game 7, and go to a bar with
    a TV. Who'd have thought that the lowest seed would take the highest
    seed to a game 7?

    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered that I
    honestly could not tell if the 'singer' was
    trying to insult any Canadians present.

    I can assure you that most St. Louisans like Canada, and dislike Trump.


    That's cuz' the only folx left in STL are shiftless negro welfare
    deadbeats and hapless ill - informed "guilty" white LIEberals, Bryan...

    😎

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 13:49:00 2025
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:32:42 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 2:35 AM, gm wrote:

    Mike should get a copy of Henry Miller's infamous 1934 "dirty novel"

    Gee. One would almost think that you're going bi in your old age.

    I actually bought the paperback of this book

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Sat May 3 14:04:25 2025
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem. The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 10:21:04 2025
    On 2025-05-03 10:04 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem. The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL
    Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.



    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long
    anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying. I thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 14:18:19 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 14:04:25 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem. The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL
    Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)


    Roseanne Barr...???


    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.


    Instead of " O Canada ", maybe Carney will make " The Internationale "
    your new national anthem...!!!


    Show biz anecdote:

    When actress Jayne Mansfield first visited London bin the 50's, she
    exclaimed, "When I attend the theatre here, they play 'My Country 'Tis
    Of Thee' before the performance - I guess it's in my honour...!!!"

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 11:05:02 2025
    On 5/3/2025 9:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:32:42 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 2:35 AM, gm wrote:

    Mike should get a copy of Henry Miller's infamous 1934 "dirty novel"

    Gee. One would almost think that you're going bi in your old age.

    I actually bought the paperback of this book

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

    Please don't let us have to read that drivel again.

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 15:18:35 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:32:42 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 2:35 AM, gm wrote:

    Mike should get a copy of Henry Miller's infamous 1934 "dirty novel"

    Gee. One would almost think that you're going bi in your old age.

    I actually bought the paperback of this book

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

    FFS, just killfile both of them.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 3 15:31:12 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 9:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:32:42 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 2:35 AM, gm wrote:

    Mike should get a copy of Henry Miller's infamous 1934 "dirty novel"

    Gee. One would almost think that you're going bi in your old age.

    I actually bought the paperback of this book

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

    Please don't let us have to read that drivel again.


    Widder Jill, being the bitter dried -up old spinster she is, hates
    Bryan's erotic tales, as she has had a TOTAL lack of erotic "thrills" in
    her lonely sour life...

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    GN

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat May 3 12:26:39 2025
    On 2025-05-03 12:17 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 8:21 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long
    anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying.
    I thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    I detest ALL national anthems!

    I don't have problems with it other than the PC changes made to it. I
    will not participate in the God Save the King/Queen thing. The public indoctrination thing that bothers me the most if the Land
    Acknowledgement. It is a crock in this area because the native people
    in this area now are not the same people who had lived here before.
    Around the time the Europeans arrived the local "nation" was being wiped
    out and assimilated by the Iroquois as part of their campaign to move
    north and expel the Huron. They now accuse us of having committed a
    genocide against the natives when the fact is that they had already
    committed that genocide. However, get everyone to say it and to repeat
    it and it will become true.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 3 10:17:30 2025
    On 2025-05-03 8:21 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 10:04 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem.  The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL
    Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.



    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying. I thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    I detest ALL national anthems!

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat May 3 17:40:16 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 8:21 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 10:04 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem.  The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL
    Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.



    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long
    anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying. I
    thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    I detest ALL national anthems!

    I can't quite bring myself to care about national anthems.

    It would be nice if ours was singable by people with no practice in
    singing. Standards have fallen appallingly since the 18th Century.
    At least La Marseillaise encompasses little more than a single octave.
    The Star Speckled Binger is an octave and a fifth.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Sun May 4 04:10:13 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 15:18:35 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:32:42 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 2:35 AM, gm wrote:

    Mike should get a copy of Henry Miller's infamous 1934 "dirty novel"

    Gee. One would almost think that you're going bi in your old age.

    I actually bought the paperback of this book

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

    FFS, just killfile both of them.

    He lives off them.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Sun May 4 04:09:42 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:05:02 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 9:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

    Please don't let us have to read that drivel again.

    One thing is for sure: Mike will quote it.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Sun May 4 04:15:04 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 12:26:39 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-05-03 12:17 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 8:21 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long
    anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying.
    I thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    I detest ALL national anthems!

    I don't have problems with it other than the PC changes made to it. I
    will not participate in the God Save the King/Queen thing. The public >indoctrination thing that bothers me the most if the Land
    Acknowledgement. It is a crock in this area because the native people
    in this area now are not the same people who had lived here before.
    Around the time the Europeans arrived the local "nation" was being wiped
    out and assimilated by the Iroquois as part of their campaign to move
    north and expel the Huron. They now accuse us of having committed a
    genocide against the natives when the fact is that they had already
    committed that genocide. However, get everyone to say it and to repeat
    it and it will become true.

    Isn't there a "Proud Boy" version that you can sing?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun May 4 04:14:16 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 10:17:30 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-05-03 8:21 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 10:04 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem.  The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL
    Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.

    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long
    anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying. I
    thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    I detest ALL national anthems!

    Me too.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 3 18:54:15 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 14:21:04 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-05-03 10:04 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem. The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL
    Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.



    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying. I thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of
    meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out
    the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a
    commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 19:00:31 2025
    dsi1 wrote:

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out
    the words "under God" which threw me off beat.


    "I hereby pledge ALLEGIANCE to the United SNAKES of URMERICA...!!!"

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 12:48:43 2025
    On 2025-05-03 12:14 p.m., Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 10:17:30 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-05-03 8:21 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 10:04 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem.  The only times I've heard it sung >>>>> well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL >>>>> Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.

    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long
    anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying. I >>> thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    I detest ALL national anthems!

    Me too.

    When I lived in Aussie during the early 70s, the Advance Australia
    Fairies were succeeding in getting it to replace Waltzing Matilda, a
    song that is indelibly associated with the country,

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sun May 4 05:26:02 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 18:54:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 14:21:04 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-05-03 10:04 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem. The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL
    Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.



    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long
    anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying. I
    thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of >meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out
    the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a >commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Larry@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 15:38:46 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:05:02 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 9:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

    Please don't let us have to read that drivel again.

    One thing is for sure: Mike will quote it.


    You hump posts all day and half the night in here.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Larry on Sun May 4 05:42:38 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 15:36:57 -0400, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:
    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French.


    French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.

    But y'all love the Italians and their pizzas. Yet the Italians
    actually sided with the Nazis. Ah, the American education system...

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Larry@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 15:48:15 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 15:36:57 -0400, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:
    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French.


    French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.

    But y'all love the Italians and their pizzas.


    Nope, Mussolini got what he deserved, hung in the
    street by his own people. I can take or leave any
    pizza, mostly take out.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 3 15:52:45 2025
    On 5/3/2025 1:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    It would be nice if ours was singable by people with no practice in
    singing. Standards have fallen appallingly since the 18th Century.
    At least La Marseillaise encompasses little more than a single octave.
    The Star Speckled Binger is an octave and a fifth.


    Sing the octave and drink the fifth for best results.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 16:01:24 2025
    On 5/3/2025 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 18:54:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:


    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of
    meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out
    the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a
    commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?


    It will get better. Trump says forget about "separation of church and
    state"
    He established the Religious Liberty Commission. Now, Trump will be
    able to tell us what god to worship.

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  • From Larry@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 15:44:53 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?


    Almost as bad as it is over there in Aussie land.

    Why do you care, are you moving here soon?

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  • From Larry@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 3 15:36:57 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French.


    French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 20:03:21 2025
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 12:21:47 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/2/2025 9:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered

    I can assure you that most St. Louisans like Canada, and dislike Trump.

    That's cuz' the only folx left in STL are shiftless negro welfare
    deadbeats and hapless ill - informed "guilty" white LIEberals, Bryan...

    Grrr. I hate it when Greg might have half a point, In this case,
    yes it was a black guy (who sang both anthems), but I don't remember
    if he was gainfully employed or 'between' jobs.

    Anyone so-assed to know can probably look it up using Google AI.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 20:05:15 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 19:26:02 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Some people want to do that. I don't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9i2vmFhSSY

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Larry on Sun May 4 06:30:09 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 15:44:53 -0400, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?


    Almost as bad as it is over there in Aussie land.

    Why do you care, are you moving here soon?

    I'd rather observe youse from a distance, especially in the current
    climate.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Larry on Sun May 4 06:31:05 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 15:48:15 -0400, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 15:36:57 -0400, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:
    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French.


    French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.

    But y'all love the Italians and their pizzas.


    Nope, Mussolini got what he deserved, hung in the
    street by his own people. I can take or leave any
    pizza, mostly take out.

    A large part of your country's built on Italians.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun May 4 06:34:08 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 16:01:24 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 18:54:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:


    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of
    meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out >>> the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a
    commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?


    It will get better. Trump says forget about "separation of church and
    state"
    He established the Religious Liberty Commission. Now, Trump will be
    able to tell us what god to worship.

    Trump's no more religious than a door knob. But he needs those dumb
    Christians to support him, so he pretends he believes in more than
    just himself.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sun May 4 06:40:12 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 20:05:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 19:26:02 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Some people want to do that. I don't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9i2vmFhSSY

    The French have organised it best. Everybody can believe what they
    want but church and state are completely separated. If you're a civil
    servant, you can't wear a hijab, but also no cross around your neck or
    anything else religious. If the president would mention God during a
    public speech, riots would break out. After all, he's also the
    president of the atheists and the agnostics.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 21:44:12 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 18:54:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 14:21:04 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-05-03 10:04 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem. The only times I've heard it sung >>>>> well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL >>>>> Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra.

    I forget her name, but the best I heard was an opera singer. (USA)

    The Canadian one I cannot sing anymore because they changed
    the words *3* fucking times in my memory and always fall
    back to what we sang as youngsters and get out of sync &c.



    I avoid the confusion by singing it in French. IMO anthems are no long
    anthems when thy change them. The last change was especially annoying. I >>> thought if it was really important to have new words they could have
    altered one of the other verses instead of the one everyone seems to
    think is the only one.

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of >>meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out >>the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It >>seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a >>commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to >>ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Not where I live. Although Trump is trying his best to make
    Christianity the national religion.

    Really, saying "one nation, under God" is barely "shoved down
    one's throat". I can't remember the last time I said the Pledge.
    Fifty years ago, perhaps?

    I wonder what weird club David belongs to.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 3 18:31:07 2025
    On 2025-05-03 5:44 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Not where I live. Although Trump is trying his best to make
    Christianity the national religion.

    Really, saying "one nation, under God" is barely "shoved down
    one's throat". I can't remember the last time I said the Pledge.
    Fifty years ago, perhaps?

    I wonder what weird club David belongs to.


    It's a touchy topic. As someone who never bought into the god stuff I
    always resented being expected to recite the Lords Prayer in school
    opening exercises, to have to say grace at public meals etc. I was glad
    to see that indoctrination disappear from public events. On the flip
    side, there are a lot of "christians" who bitch and whine about the
    elimination of public prayer as a form of religious persecution.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Sun May 4 08:23:51 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 21:44:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 18:54:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of >>>meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out >>>the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and >>>he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It >>>seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the >>>Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a >>>commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to >>>ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Not where I live. Although Trump is trying his best to make
    Christianity the national religion.

    Really, saying "one nation, under God" is barely "shoved down
    one's throat". I can't remember the last time I said the Pledge.
    Fifty years ago, perhaps?

    I wonder what weird club David belongs to.

    But don't your presidents always mention God blessing America etc?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 17:59:17 2025
    gm wrote on 5/3/2025 10:31 AM:
    Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 9:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:32:42 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 2:35 AM, gm wrote:

    Mike should get a copy of Henry Miller's infamous 1934 "dirty novel"

    Gee. One would almost think that you're going bi in your old age.

    I actually bought the paperback of this book

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

    Please don't let us have to read that drivel again.


    Widder Jill, being the bitter dried -up old spinster she is, hates
    Bryan's erotic tales, as she has had a TOTAL lack of erotic "thrills" in
    her lonely sour life...


    That's not true. Her Majesty once had a torrid affair with Popeye, till
    she dumped him because he was married to a nice Mexican lady.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Larry on Sat May 3 18:34:08 2025
    Larry wrote on 5/3/2025 2:38 PM:
    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:05:02 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 9:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    Please Greg. If you have an ounce of humanity left in your
    tortured soul, do not tempt fate by mentioning the words
    "dirty novel", thus triggering Bryan to quote some of his.

    Please don't let us have to read that drivel again.

    One thing is for sure: Mike will quote it.


    You hump posts all day and half the night in here.

    Master Bruce is like the energizer bunny.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Sat May 3 18:36:46 2025
    BryanGSimmons wrote on 5/3/2025 7:21 AM:
    On 5/2/2025 9:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.

    Did you watch any of the hockey game in 'Daa Loo'?

    I almost never see hockey. We don't have TV, and I *certainly* don't go
    to games. I might make an exception for game 7, and go to a bar with
    a TV. Who'd have thought that the lowest seed would take the highest
    seed to a game 7?

    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered that I
    honestly could not tell if the 'singer' was
    trying to insult any Canadians present.

    I can assure you that most St. Louisans like Canada, and dislike Trump.

    Then he butchered the American anthem even worse,
    so that at least made me feel a bit better.

    Everybody fucks up the US anthem. The only times I've heard it sung
    well in this century was several times on opening weekend of the StL Symphony, when the audience joins the orchestra. I'm not a particularly nationalistic person, but that is pretty moving.



    Yep, da Loo is da greatest!

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Larry on Sat May 3 18:44:32 2025
    Larry wrote on 5/3/2025 2:44 PM:
    Bruce wrote:
    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?


    Almost as bad as it is over there in Aussie land.

    Why do you care, are you moving here soon?

    Trump is running the show now, so he won't admitted. Master bruce
    belongs in a concentration camp anyway.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 18:39:56 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote on 5/3/2025 3:03 PM:
    On 2025-05-03, gm wrote:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 12:21:47 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/2/2025 9:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    The Canadian anthem was so poorly rendered

    I can assure you that most St. Louisans like Canada, and dislike Trump.

    That's cuz' the only folx left in STL are shiftless negro welfare
    deadbeats and hapless ill - informed "guilty" white LIEberals, Bryan...

    Grrr. I hate it when Greg might have half a point, In this case,
    yes it was a black guy (who sang both anthems), but I don't remember
    if he was gainfully employed or 'between' jobs.

    Anyone so-assed to know can probably look it up using Google AI.


    I'm surprised at you getting so worked up over shit like this!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Sun May 4 11:10:44 2025
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 20:52:49 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 5/2/2025 10:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.
    Not surprising, Bryan bothered to forward a post about stew to start >another thread to turn it into a discussion about porn. He is obsessed
    with sex. He's posted about trying to have sex with John Kuthe's [ex]
    wife while they were on their honeymoon. WTF he was doing there with
    them is just another sign of a dysfunctional relationship. No one here
    wants to hear Bryan talk about the porn he watches.

    For a simpleton like Bryan, there's not much more to life than sex. I
    can imagine that male primates could relate.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 3 20:52:49 2025
    On 5/2/2025 10:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.
    Not surprising, Bryan bothered to forward a post about stew to start
    another thread to turn it into a discussion about porn. He is obsessed
    with sex. He's posted about trying to have sex with John Kuthe's [ex]
    wife while they were on their honeymoon. WTF he was doing there with
    them is just another sign of a dysfunctional relationship. No one here
    wants to hear Bryan talk about the porn he watches.

    Jill

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 3 20:13:12 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote on 5/3/2025 7:52 PM:
    On 5/2/2025 10:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.
    Not surprising, Bryan bothered to forward a post about stew to start
    another thread to turn it into a discussion about porn. He is obsessed
    with sex. He's posted about trying to have sex with John Kuthe's [ex]
    wife while they were on their honeymoon. WTF he was doing there with
    them is just another sign of a dysfunctional relationship. No one here
    wants to hear Bryan talk about the porn he watches.

    Jill


    Yes. He is obsessed about sex. On the other hand, your majesty is
    stone cold frigid. That's Ok too, but you shouldn't obsess on these
    sexual things. It's not good for you.

    Try to concentrate on the wildlife in your area. That seems to calm you
    and reduce your stress. You'll become less high strung as a result.
    Everyone will benefit, especially you.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 3 20:19:24 2025
    Bruce wrote on 5/3/2025 8:10 PM:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 20:52:49 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 5/2/2025 10:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.
    Not surprising, Bryan bothered to forward a post about stew to start
    another thread to turn it into a discussion about porn. He is obsessed
    with sex. He's posted about trying to have sex with John Kuthe's [ex]
    wife while they were on their honeymoon. WTF he was doing there with
    them is just another sign of a dysfunctional relationship. No one here
    wants to hear Bryan talk about the porn he watches.

    For a simpleton like Bryan, there's not much more to life than sex. I
    can imagine that male primates could relate.



    You're so wise, Master.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sun May 4 03:01:08 2025
    On 2025-05-03, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out
    the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.


    Yup, I was in the third grade during the lyrics change, and it took a
    few renditions before everybody got in sync.
    Unfortunately, the commies adapted and call themselves "progressive"
    now. Ain't words great!

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 02:50:13 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    I can't quite bring myself to care about national anthems.


    How about State Anthems?

    Home means Nevada
    Home means the hills
    Home means the sage and the pine
    Out by the Truckee's silvery rills
    Out where the Sun always shines

    There is a land that I love the best
    Fairer than all I can see
    Right in the heart of the Golden West
    Home means Nevada to me

    Done from memory. How is that awful? Nevada may even have a new State
    Anthem now, but I hope not, and I won't look it up.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 3 23:06:21 2025
    On 2025-05-03 8:52 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/2/2025 10:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.
    Not surprising, Bryan bothered to forward a post about stew to start
    another thread to turn it into a discussion about porn.  He is obsessed
    with sex. He's posted about trying to have sex with John Kuthe's [ex]
    wife while they were on their honeymoon.  WTF he was doing there with
    them is just another sign of a dysfunctional relationship.  No one here wants to hear Bryan talk about the porn he watches.

    Sex is a drive reduction behaviour like eating and drinking. People are
    are deprived of fluids are fixated on having something to drink. People
    who are starving are obsessed with food. People who aren't getting any
    sex think about it all the time.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun May 4 02:41:42 2025
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 1:19:24 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    Bruce wrote on 5/3/2025 8:10 PM:

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 20:52:49 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 5/2/2025 10:56 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    ... it's hard to believe that you even admitted that shit.

    I guess we're even then, because that's how I
    feel about a few of the things you have posted.
    Not surprising, Bryan bothered to forward a post about stew to start
    another thread to turn it into a discussion about porn. He is obsessed
    with sex. He's posted about trying to have sex with John Kuthe's [ex]
    wife while they were on their honeymoon. WTF he was doing there with
    them is just another sign of a dysfunctional relationship. No one here
    wants to hear Bryan talk about the porn he watches.

    For a simpleton like Bryan, there's not much more to life than sex. I
    can imagine that male primates could relate.


    You're so wise, Master.


    Well, he did say he doesn't have a TV. I can't imagine
    Bryan sitting down at the days end with a gripping book.
    Can you? I can't see Betsy Crocker and he sitting down
    together working on a thousand-piece puzzle every evening
    either. I'd not be surprised to learn they play with a
    Ouija board, though.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Larry on Sun May 4 03:14:34 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.


    Where is Napoleon when you need him?

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat May 3 23:46:08 2025
    On 2025-05-03 11:14 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.


    Where is Napoleon when you need him?

    Aren't you glad the French were there to help the colonists in their
    rebellion. If it wasn't for the French you might still have an English
    king instead of an oligarchy.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun May 4 04:28:10 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 11:14 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    Where is Napoleon when you need him?

    Aren't you glad the French were there to help the colonists in their rebellion. If it wasn't for the French you might still have an English
    king instead of an oligarchy.


    Oh, Dave, you responded to the Bat Signal. OLIGARCH! OLIGARCH! My mother
    had Pennsylvania Dutch roots, probably from Hessian. If not for exactly
    how history played out, neither you or I would be communicating here, as neither of us would exist.
    Thank your lucky stars for how all history played out before you were conceived. Otherwise, two other people might, or might not, be posting
    here and now. Thanks, all of history before me!

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun May 4 05:56:50 2025
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 3:01:08 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2025-05-03, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of
    meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out
    the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a
    commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.


    Yup, I was in the third grade during the lyrics change, and it took a
    few renditions before everybody got in sync.
    Unfortunately, the commies adapted and call themselves "progressive"
    now. Ain't words great!

    In the future, we'll all be required to recite the pledge of allegiance
    at the start of all public/private meetings.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/loyalty-day-and-law-day-u-s-a-2025/

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun May 4 09:09:28 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    But don't your presidents always mention God blessing America etc?

    Yes. And some people say "God bless you" when someone sneezes. The
    two are roughly equivalent and meaningless.

    "God" is also a convenient swear word, even for atheists.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun May 4 09:13:04 2025
    On 2025-05-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 5:44 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Not where I live. Although Trump is trying his best to make
    Christianity the national religion.

    Really, saying "one nation, under God" is barely "shoved down
    one's throat". I can't remember the last time I said the Pledge.
    Fifty years ago, perhaps?

    I wonder what weird club David belongs to.


    It's a touchy topic. As someone who never bought into the god stuff I
    always resented being expected to recite the Lords Prayer in school
    opening exercises,

    Happily, I went to school after the Supreme Court declared that
    a violation of the separation of church and state.

    to have to say grace at public meals etc. I was glad
    to see that indoctrination disappear from public events. On the flip
    side, there are a lot of "christians" who bitch and whine about the elimination of public prayer as a form of religious persecution.

    They don't get that they can still pray? If they read their own
    Bible, they'd learn this:

    "And when you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites. For they
    love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so
    that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their
    reward in full.
    But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your
    Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in
    secret, will reward you".

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun May 4 09:16:27 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    I can't quite bring myself to care about national anthems.


    How about State Anthems?

    Still not caring. Michigan doesn't have one, at least not officially.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun May 4 09:17:10 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of
    meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out
    the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a
    commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.


    Yup, I was in the third grade during the lyrics change, and it took a
    few renditions before everybody got in sync.
    Unfortunately, the commies adapted and call themselves "progressive"
    now. Ain't words great!

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun May 4 09:18:36 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Oh, Dave, you responded to the Bat Signal. OLIGARCH! OLIGARCH! My mother
    had Pennsylvania Dutch roots, probably from Hessian. If not for exactly
    how history played out, neither you or I would be communicating here, as neither of us would exist.
    Thank your lucky stars for how all history played out before you were conceived. Otherwise, two other people might, or might not, be posting
    here and now. Thanks, all of history before me!

    Why would it matter? There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Sun May 4 19:28:10 2025
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 09:17:10 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:

    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of
    meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out >>> the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a
    commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    Yup, I was in the third grade during the lyrics change, and it took a
    few renditions before everybody got in sync.
    Unfortunately, the commies adapted and call themselves "progressive"
    now. Ain't words great!

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?

    Ouch.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Larry on Sun May 4 21:08:07 2025
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 06:19:52 -0400, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.


    Where is Napoleon when you need him?


    He pulled his bonaparte.

    Why were you gone for so long?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Larry@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun May 4 06:19:52 2025
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Larry <la@la.la> wrote:

    French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.


    Where is Napoleon when you need him?


    He pulled his bonaparte.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 07:49:18 2025
    On 5/4/2025 5:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Oh, Dave, you responded to the Bat Signal. OLIGARCH! OLIGARCH! My mother
    had Pennsylvania Dutch roots, probably from Hessian. If not for exactly
    how history played out, neither you or I would be communicating here, as
    neither of us would exist.
    Thank your lucky stars for how all history played out before you were
    conceived. Otherwise, two other people might, or might not, be posting
    here and now. Thanks, all of history before me!

    Why would it matter? There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.

    I know you don't care for 1970's music but in Jethro Tull's 'A Passion
    Play' there is indeed a queue of people waiting to be born... at least
    in the song lyrics:

    "The passengers upon the ferry crossing, waiting to be born,
    renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn."

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 08:22:23 2025
    On 5/4/2025 5:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    I can't quite bring myself to care about national anthems.


    How about State Anthems?

    Still not caring. Michigan doesn't have one, at least not officially.

    Apparently South Carolina has one. Not that I've ever heard it. I
    can't imagine where I would.

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun May 4 08:18:02 2025
    On 5/3/2025 6:31 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 5:44 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Not where I live.  Although Trump is trying his best to make
    Christianity the national religion.

    Really, saying "one nation, under God" is barely "shoved down
    one's throat".  I can't remember the last time I said the Pledge.
    Fifty years ago, perhaps?

    I wonder what weird club David belongs to.


    It's a touchy topic. As someone who never bought into the god stuff I
    always resented being expected to recite the Lords Prayer in school
    opening exercises, to have to say grace at public meals etc.  I was glad
    to see that indoctrination disappear from public events. On the flip
    side, there are a lot of "christians" who bitch and whine about the elimination of public prayer as a form of religious persecution.

    I took Spanish in high school for two years as the foreign language requirement. Prayer in schools had been eliminated well before. The
    Spanish teacher (who was actually born in Spain) was Catholic; she
    started every class having her students recite the Lord's Prayer in
    Spanish. I and several other students opted to sit that out in the
    hallway. We didn't feel it was right for her to include prayer as part
    of the curriculum under the guise of teaching us to speak Spanish.

    Jill

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun May 4 10:11:24 2025
    On 5/4/2025 8:22 AM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 5:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    I can't quite bring myself to care about national anthems.


    How about State Anthems?

    Still not caring.  Michigan doesn't have one, at least not officially.

    Apparently South Carolina has one.  Not that I've ever heard it.  I
    can't imagine where I would.

    Jill

    I'm happy to help you with this.

    What is the national anthem of South Carolina?
    South Carolina State Song "Carolina"
    In 1911 the South Carolina Daughters of the American Revolution
    presented a memorial to the General Assembly asking that “Carolina” be adopted as the official state song “Carolina” became the state anthem on February 11, 1911.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MjxRHf7OE&ab_channel=MissLiberty

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 09:30:09 2025
    On 2025-05-04 5:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    But don't your presidents always mention God blessing America etc?

    Yes. And some people say "God bless you" when someone sneezes. The
    two are roughly equivalent and meaningless.

    That is probably more polite than what my friends and I used to say....
    Did you get any on you? '-)

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun May 4 09:47:13 2025
    On 2025-05-04 8:18 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 6:31 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 5:44 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Not where I live.  Although Trump is trying his best to make
    Christianity the national religion.

    Really, saying "one nation, under God" is barely "shoved down
    one's throat".  I can't remember the last time I said the Pledge.
    Fifty years ago, perhaps?

    I wonder what weird club David belongs to.


    It's a touchy topic. As someone who never bought into the god stuff I
    always resented being expected to recite the Lords Prayer in school
    opening exercises, to have to say grace at public meals etc.  I was
    glad to see that indoctrination disappear from public events. On the
    flip side, there are a lot of "christians" who bitch and whine about
    the elimination of public prayer as a form of religious persecution.

    I took Spanish in high school for two years as the foreign language requirement.  Prayer in schools had been eliminated well before.  The Spanish teacher (who was actually born in Spain) was Catholic; she
    started every class having her students recite the Lord's Prayer in Spanish.  I and several other students opted to sit that out in the hallway.  We didn't feel it was right for her to include prayer as part
    of the curriculum under the guise of teaching us to speak Spanish.

    When I worked in the equipment department we had a guy with a religion
    problem. You could not have the simplest conversation with the guy
    without it turning into a sermon. He became my way out of there. I was
    stuck in a position with nowhere to go and knew the operation was going
    to be privatized. I had tried everything. I had worked hard and done a
    good job. I tried messing up. No luck. Then I thought I should cause
    some trouble. I filed a religious harassment complaint.

    My poor boss was stuck between a rock and a hard place. I had a valid
    complaint and lots of witnesses. The preacher was a Jamaican who had
    filed complaints of racial discrimination... all bogus. The best way to
    deal with me was to move me. I got an interview for a position in safety
    and regulation, a branch that was expanding while others were being
    outsourced. Landed a job in enforcement. The base rate was almost 50%
    more than my old job. It was also part of a classification grievance.
    The grievance was settle about two years later and I got another huge
    raise. When we got that settlement was waking 2 1/2 times what I had
    been making in the shop. The lord works in mysterious ways.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 09:33:44 2025
    On 2025-05-04 5:13 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03 5:44 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?

    Not where I live. Although Trump is trying his best to make
    Christianity the national religion.

    Really, saying "one nation, under God" is barely "shoved down
    one's throat". I can't remember the last time I said the Pledge.
    Fifty years ago, perhaps?

    I wonder what weird club David belongs to.


    It's a touchy topic. As someone who never bought into the god stuff I
    always resented being expected to recite the Lords Prayer in school
    opening exercises,

    Happily, I went to school after the Supreme Court declared that
    a violation of the separation of church and state.

    to have to say grace at public meals etc. I was glad
    to see that indoctrination disappear from public events. On the flip
    side, there are a lot of "christians" who bitch and whine about the
    elimination of public prayer as a form of religious persecution.

    They don't get that they can still pray? If they read their own
    Bible, they'd learn this:

    "And when you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites. For they
    love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so
    that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their
    reward in full.
    But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in
    secret, will reward you".

    Exactly. Even thy guy they claim to be honouring in prayer tells them
    not to do it and why. They just don't seem to grasp that the idea of
    freedom religion includes freedom from religion.


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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun May 4 16:04:02 2025
    On 5/4/2025 2:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-04 5:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    But don't your presidents always mention God blessing America etc?

    Yes.  And some people say "God bless you" when someone sneezes.  The
    two are roughly equivalent and meaningless.

    That is probably more polite than what my friends and I used to say....
    Did you get any on you?   '-)

    We said Gesundheit.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 4 16:11:19 2025
    In article <vv5uk1$arin$4@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 16:01:24 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 18:54:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:


    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of
    meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out >>> the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and >>> he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It >>> seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a >>> commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to >>> ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?


    It will get better. Trump says forget about "separation of church and >state"
    He established the Religious Liberty Commission. Now, Trump will be
    able to tell us what god to worship.

    Trump's no more religious than a door knob. But he needs those dumb Christians to support him, so he pretends he believes in more than
    just himself.

    Just as you thought he couldn't stoop any lower:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrg8zkz8d0o

    BBC News

    Published
    3 May 2025

    US President Donald Trump has attracted criticism from
    some Catholics after posting an AI-generated image of
    himself as the Pope.

    The picture, which was shared by official White House
    social media accounts, comes as Catholics mourn the death
    of Pope Francis, who died on 21 April, and prepare to
    choose the next pontiff.

    The New York State Catholic Conference accused Trump of
    mocking the faith. The post comes days after he joked to
    reporters: "I'd like to be Pope."

    Janet UK

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sun May 4 14:30:06 2025
    On 2025-05-04, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    I'd not be surprised to learn they
    play with a Ouija board, though.

    I still have one. Did wierd things happen
    when you played it as a kid, or did the
    'prime mover' get caught repeatedly?

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sun May 4 15:31:59 2025
    On 2025-05-04, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 2:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-04 5:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    But don't your presidents always mention God blessing America etc?

    Yes.  And some people say "God bless you" when someone sneezes.  The
    two are roughly equivalent and meaningless.

    That is probably more polite than what my friends and I used to say....
    Did you get any on you?   '-)

    We said Gesundheit.

    That was pretty common around here, as well.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun May 4 15:30:35 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 5:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Oh, Dave, you responded to the Bat Signal. OLIGARCH! OLIGARCH! My mother >>> had Pennsylvania Dutch roots, probably from Hessian. If not for exactly
    how history played out, neither you or I would be communicating here, as >>> neither of us would exist.
    Thank your lucky stars for how all history played out before you were
    conceived. Otherwise, two other people might, or might not, be posting
    here and now. Thanks, all of history before me!

    Why would it matter? There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.

    I know you don't care for 1970's music but in Jethro Tull's 'A Passion
    Play' there is indeed a queue of people waiting to be born... at least
    in the song lyrics:

    "The passengers upon the ferry crossing, waiting to be born,
    renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn."

    I like Tull. Being in a song lyric doesn't make it real.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 12:30:06 2025
    On 5/4/2025 11:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    I like Tull. Being in a song lyric doesn't make it real.

    WHAT? ? ? ? I've used song lyrics to guide my choices in life.
    Especially some of the rappers, they sure helped me make good choices.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 13:45:39 2025
    On 5/4/2025 11:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 5:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Oh, Dave, you responded to the Bat Signal. OLIGARCH! OLIGARCH! My mother >>>> had Pennsylvania Dutch roots, probably from Hessian. If not for exactly >>>> how history played out, neither you or I would be communicating here, as >>>> neither of us would exist.
    Thank your lucky stars for how all history played out before you were
    conceived. Otherwise, two other people might, or might not, be posting >>>> here and now. Thanks, all of history before me!

    Why would it matter? There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.

    I know you don't care for 1970's music but in Jethro Tull's 'A Passion
    Play' there is indeed a queue of people waiting to be born... at least
    in the song lyrics:

    "The passengers upon the ferry crossing, waiting to be born,
    renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn."

    I like Tull. Being in a song lyric doesn't make it real.

    Obviously. That was a fantastic album. :)

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 13:21:16 2025
    On 2025-05-04 11:30 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    I know you don't care for 1970's music but in Jethro Tull's 'A Passion
    Play' there is indeed a queue of people waiting to be born... at least
    in the song lyrics:

    "The passengers upon the ferry crossing, waiting to be born,
    renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn."

    I like Tull. Being in a song lyric doesn't make it real.


    I was fired from my unpaid position as a DJ at our university radio
    station because of Jethro Tull. Someone complained about the lyrics in
    one of the songs I played at lunch time. My friends were Jethro Tull
    fans and I/we figured their enjoyment of the music should override the
    one complaint, so they would call and request it. I obliged and got fired.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Janet on Sun May 4 13:48:02 2025
    On 5/4/2025 11:11 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <vv5uk1$arin$4@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 16:01:24 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 18:54:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:


    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of >>>>> meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me left out >>>>> the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about it and >>>>> he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up sometimes. It >>>>> seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added because a >>>>> commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a way to >>>>> ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?


    It will get better. Trump says forget about "separation of church and
    state"
    He established the Religious Liberty Commission. Now, Trump will be
    able to tell us what god to worship.

    Trump's no more religious than a door knob. But he needs those dumb
    Christians to support him, so he pretends he believes in more than
    just himself.

    Just as you thought he couldn't stoop any lower:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrg8zkz8d0o

    BBC News

    Published
    3 May 2025

    Janet UK

    The man is an embarrassment.

    Jill

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun May 4 14:11:19 2025
    On 5/4/2025 1:48 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 11:11 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <vv5uk1$arin$4@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    On Sat, 3 May 2025 16:01:24 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/3/2025 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 3 May 2025 18:54:15 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:


    In our club, we say the American pledge of allegiance at the start of >>>>>> meetings. I thought it was peculiar that the old guy next to me
    left out
    the words "under God" which threw me off beat. I asked him about
    it and
    he said that's the way he learned it and he gets mixed up
    sometimes. It
    seems that those words were added to the pledge in 1954, when the
    Americans were gripped with fear of the commies. It was added
    because a
    commie can't say those words without stopping to spit. It was a
    way to
    ferret out the true commies in our midst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

    So religion is forced down people's throats in the US?


    It will get better.  Trump says forget about "separation of church and >>>> state"
    He established the Religious Liberty Commission.  Now, Trump will be
    able to tell us what god to worship.

    Trump's no more religious than a door knob. But he needs those dumb
    Christians to support him, so he pretends he believes in more than
    just himself.

       Just as you thought he couldn't stoop any lower:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrg8zkz8d0o

    BBC News

         Published
         3 May 2025

        Janet UK

    The man is an embarrassment.

    Jill

    That is the sort of thing a couple of guys sitting around having a beer
    would think of. For the alleged leader of the free world, it is very disrespectful.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon May 5 04:49:51 2025
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:11:19 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/4/2025 1:48 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 11:11 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <vv5uk1$arin$4@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    Trump's no more religious than a door knob. But he needs those dumb
    Christians to support him, so he pretends he believes in more than
    just himself.

       Just as you thought he couldn't stoop any lower:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrg8zkz8d0o

    BBC News

         Published
         3 May 2025

        Janet UK

    The man is an embarrassment.

    Jill

    That is the sort of thing a couple of guys sitting around having a beer
    would think of. For the alleged leader of the free world, it is very >disrespectful.

    If he did that with the Prophet Mohammed, he'd be dead.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun May 4 13:11:01 2025
    On 2025-05-04 12:49 p.m., Bruce wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:11:19 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/4/2025 1:48 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 11:11 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <vv5uk1$arin$4@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    Trump's no more religious than a door knob. But he needs those dumb
    Christians to support him, so he pretends he believes in more than
    just himself.

       Just as you thought he couldn't stoop any lower:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrg8zkz8d0o

    BBC News

         Published
         3 May 2025

        Janet UK

    The man is an embarrassment.

    Jill

    That is the sort of thing a couple of guys sitting around having a beer
    would think of. For the alleged leader of the free world, it is very
    disrespectful.

    If he did that with the Prophet Mohammed, he'd be dead.

    But we all know that President "Bone-spurs" is a coward.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 19:31:23 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.

    I know a lady who says she actually remembers it.

    She kept telling those in charge: "I don't want
    to back again to being really stupid."

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sun May 4 19:40:38 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.

    I know a lady who says she actually remembers it.

    She kept telling those in charge: "I don't want
    to back again to being really stupid."

    People can hallucinate anything.

    Why is it reincarnationists were always Cleopatra in a previous
    life and not some random Chinese peasant?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun May 4 19:57:17 2025
    Graham wrote:

    But we all know that President "Bone-spurs" is a coward.


    HEY, pay your NATO debts, Canuck FUCKFACE Graham...!!!


    In other news, Canada's mooching on their NATO spending is coming to an
    end...

    They need to spend an extra $15B/year to hit their 2% commitment and
    guess what: They aint got it...

    And it's going to hurt like hell...

    We also learn this week the entirety of NATO (sans the US) is unable to
    mount a paltry 25,000 troop deployment, highlighting the extent of the
    mooching again:



    NATO chief calls for more defense spending from Europe and Canada

    April 28, 2025

    https://www.npr.org/2025/04/28/nx-s1-5377250/nato-us-talks-mark-rutte-spending-ukraine

    "Trump is particularly aggravated with the North Atlantic Treaty
    Organization, or NATO — the world's biggest military alliance, which comprises 32 countries in Europe and North America...

    The president has expressed frustration that Europe has not contributed
    enough monetarily to its own defense...

    Speaking with Morning Edition on Friday while visiting Washington for
    meetings with Trump and other top officials, NATO Secretary General Mark
    Rutte said he agreed with the president's assessment of Europe and
    Canada's financial contributions to NATO...

    "Rightly, the U.S. has complained. Particularly, President Trump has
    been very clear on this — that he expects Europeans and Canada to pay
    more, to step up in terms of their overall defense spending, and that is
    going to happen," Rutte said..."


    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to ill McQuown on Sun May 4 20:03:22 2025
    ill McQuown wrote:

    The man is an embarrassment.


    AND he just keeps on WINNING...!!!

    Trump got a big win in a DC appeals court yesterday...

    The case was focused on Voice Of America employees...

    But it has much broader implications where the appeals court laid out
    what district courts can decide...

    And they appeals court also brought in SCOTUS's decison and noted the
    district courts are ignoring SCOTUS...

    And biggest of all: The appeals courts told the district courts to quit ignoring the law and respect the boundaries...

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 16:51:36 2025
    On 5/4/2025 3:40 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.

    I know a lady who says she actually remembers it.

    She kept telling those in charge: "I don't want
    to back again to being really stupid."

    People can hallucinate anything.

    Why is it reincarnationists were always Cleopatra in a previous
    life and not some random Chinese peasant?

    Is that how they see themselves?

    Jill

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to S Viemeister on Sun May 4 16:56:24 2025
    S Viemeister wrote:
    ...
    We said Gesundheit.

    we say "Yo!" here at home. out in public we have
    said it by accident a few times and get these really
    funny looks. :)


    songbird

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 16:55:20 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    But don't your presidents always mention God blessing America etc?

    Yes. And some people say "God bless you" when someone sneezes. The
    two are roughly equivalent and meaningless.

    "God" is also a convenient swear word, even for atheists.

    good god...


    songbird

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon May 5 06:22:08 2025
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 13:11:01 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-05-04 12:49 p.m., Bruce wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:11:19 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/4/2025 1:48 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 11:11 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <vv5uk1$arin$4@dont-email.me>,
    Bruce@invalid.invalid says...

    Trump's no more religious than a door knob. But he needs those dumb >>>>>> Christians to support him, so he pretends he believes in more than >>>>>> just himself.

       Just as you thought he couldn't stoop any lower:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrg8zkz8d0o

    BBC News

         Published
         3 May 2025

        Janet UK

    The man is an embarrassment.

    Jill

    That is the sort of thing a couple of guys sitting around having a beer
    would think of. For the alleged leader of the free world, it is very
    disrespectful.

    If he did that with the Prophet Mohammed, he'd be dead.

    But we all know that President "Bone-spurs" is a coward.

    Hahaha.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun May 4 16:57:56 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    ...
    I was fired from my unpaid position as a DJ at our university radio
    station because of Jethro Tull. Someone complained about the lyrics in
    one of the songs I played at lunch time. My friends were Jethro Tull
    fans and I/we figured their enjoyment of the music should override the
    one complaint, so they would call and request it. I obliged and got fired.

    Wind Up?


    songbird

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 4 17:14:45 2025
    On 2025-05-04 3:40 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.

    I know a lady who says she actually remembers it.

    She kept telling those in charge: "I don't want
    to back again to being really stupid."

    People can hallucinate anything.

    Why is it reincarnationists were always Cleopatra in a previous
    life and not some random Chinese peasant?



    Hallucinations can be very real. Some people don't need drugs to see
    strange things or to hear voices talking to them. I was hallucinating
    pretty actively after surgery. After my heart surgery had some very
    strange ones. I was aware that the gargoyles weren't real because they
    were too weird and were there if my eyes were open or closed. The little
    white mouse climbing around on the air duct over my bed was a different
    matter. It was so real that I told the nurse about it.

    I had different medication after gall bladder surgery and they weren't
    so much hallucinations as dreams..... very vivid dreams. There were
    strange cartoon type animals in neon colours so bright they kept me
    awake and I could not turn them off.

    Was the burning bush a sign from God or was Moses hallucinating? I will
    bet on the latter.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to songbird on Sun May 4 17:46:46 2025
    On 2025-05-04 4:57 p.m., songbird wrote:
    Dave Smith wrote:
    ...
    I was fired from my unpaid position as a DJ at our university radio
    station because of Jethro Tull. Someone complained about the lyrics in
    one of the songs I played at lunch time. My friends were Jethro Tull
    fans and I/we figured their enjoyment of the music should override the
    one complaint, so they would call and request it. I obliged and got fired.

    Wind Up?


    It was not the end of the world for me to be fired from an unpaid
    position. Truth is that my friends and I got a laugh out of it. They
    even hassled the guy who fired me.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun May 4 21:42:32 2025
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 21:14:45 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:


    Hallucinations can be very real. Some people don't need drugs to see
    strange things or to hear voices talking to them. I was hallucinating
    pretty actively after surgery. After my heart surgery had some very
    strange ones. I was aware that the gargoyles weren't real because they
    were too weird and were there if my eyes were open or closed. The little white mouse climbing around on the air duct over my bed was a different matter. It was so real that I told the nurse about it.

    I had different medication after gall bladder surgery and they weren't
    so much hallucinations as dreams..... very vivid dreams. There were
    strange cartoon type animals in neon colours so bright they kept me
    awake and I could not turn them off.

    Was the burning bush a sign from God or was Moses hallucinating? I will
    bet on the latter.

    My guess is that you were simply under the influence of drugs. It
    happens all the time.

    These days, I often see things that aren't there. It's simply because my eyesight is failing and my brain is filling in the blanks. What we call
    reality is really our brains filling in the blanks i.e., hallucinating,
    to see/hear/smell things that meet our expectations. We're hallucinating
    from the day we're born.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun May 4 19:00:47 2025
    On 5/4/2025 10:11 AM, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 8:22 AM, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 5/4/2025 5:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-03, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    I can't quite bring myself to care about national anthems.


    How about State Anthems?

    Still not caring.  Michigan doesn't have one, at least not officially.

    Apparently South Carolina has one.  Not that I've ever heard it.  I
    can't imagine where I would.

    Jill

    I'm happy to help you with this.

    What is the national anthem of South Carolina?
    South Carolina State Song "Carolina"
    In 1911 the South Carolina Daughters of the American Revolution
    presented a memorial to the General Assembly asking that “Carolina” be adopted as the official state song “Carolina” became the state anthem on February 11, 1911.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MjxRHf7OE&ab_channel=MissLiberty

    Yeah, well that's goofy.

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Tue May 6 06:58:49 2025
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the
    DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon May 5 20:44:31 2025
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 17:21:16 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-05-04 11:30 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    I know you don't care for 1970's music but in Jethro Tull's 'A Passion
    Play' there is indeed a queue of people waiting to be born... at least
    in the song lyrics:

    "The passengers upon the ferry crossing, waiting to be born,
    renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn."

    I like Tull. Being in a song lyric doesn't make it real.


    I was fired from my unpaid position as a DJ at our university radio
    station because of Jethro Tull. Someone complained about the lyrics in
    one of the songs I played at lunch time. My friends were Jethro Tull
    fans and I/we figured their enjoyment of the music should override the
    one complaint, so they would call and request it. I obliged and got
    fired.


    That's kind of strange. What the heck kind of school was that? When I
    was going to school, the campus radio station was wild and free. The
    Vietnam war was going on which affected the programming but these days
    the students are mostly calm and relaxed.

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the
    DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    https://ktuh.org/

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 17:59:00 2025
    On 2025-05-05 4:44 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 17:21:16 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    I was fired from my unpaid position as a DJ at our university radio
    station because of Jethro Tull. Someone complained about the lyrics in
    one of the songs I played at lunch time.  My friends were Jethro Tull
    fans and I/we figured their enjoyment of the music should override the
    one complaint, so they would call and request it.  I obliged and got
    fired.


    That's kind of strange. What the heck kind of school was that? When I
    was going to school, the campus radio station was wild and free. The
    Vietnam war was going on which affected the programming but these days
    the students are mostly calm and relaxed.

    The manager was a knob. It was worth it just to piss him off. >
    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the
    DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    The university radio station wasn't even radio. It was run from the
    residence building and hard wired to the cafeterias, the student pub and
    to the residence common rooms. Years later they went on the air for
    real. My son went to the same university for a year before transferring
    to one in Montreal, but about a dozen years later he moved back this
    way for work and volunteered at the radio station.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon May 5 22:32:10 2025
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 21:59:00 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-05-05 4:44 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Sun, 4 May 2025 17:21:16 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    I was fired from my unpaid position as a DJ at our university radio
    station because of Jethro Tull. Someone complained about the lyrics in
    one of the songs I played at lunch time.  My friends were Jethro Tull
    fans and I/we figured their enjoyment of the music should override the
    one complaint, so they would call and request it.  I obliged and got
    fired.


    That's kind of strange. What the heck kind of school was that? When I
    was going to school, the campus radio station was wild and free. The
    Vietnam war was going on which affected the programming but these days
    the students are mostly calm and relaxed.

    The manager was a knob. It was worth it just to piss him off. >
    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the
    DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    The university radio station wasn't even radio. It was run from the
    residence building and hard wired to the cafeterias, the student pub and
    to the residence common rooms. Years later they went on the air for
    real. My son went to the same university for a year before transferring
    to one in Montreal, but about a dozen years later he moved back this
    way for work and volunteered at the radio station.

    I can see your way of thinking.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon May 5 22:31:03 2025
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:58:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the
    DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    Of course Tom Waits is white. What's your point? I've heard Tom Waits
    before. How many times do I have to listen to the same old things? I
    especially don't want to hear some old guy that used to be relevant over
    60 years ago. I've had it up to here with that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfwRqYqQbU

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Tue May 6 08:40:05 2025
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:31:03 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:58:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the >>>DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    Of course Tom Waits is white. What's your point? I've heard Tom Waits
    before. How many times do I have to listen to the same old things? I >especially don't want to hear some old guy that used to be relevant over
    60 years ago. I've had it up to here with that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfwRqYqQbU

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 22:52:34 2025
    dsi1 wrote:

    I can see your way of thinking.



    Airline Review: AUSTRIAN AIRLINES:

    https://www.airlinequality.com/airline-reviews/austrian-airlines/

    "keep the dog in the cage"

    R Marsam (Cyprus) 3rd November 2024

    ✅ Trip Verified

    "I have flown yesterday with my pet in business from Vienna to Larnaca
    and have never seen such behavior/customer service from an airline
    staff...

    I have been using Austrian Airline for the past 30 years and never came
    across such rude, inhuman behavior towards me and my puppy, I wish
    Austrian Airline can teach their staff to be more kind and understanding
    when a passenger take his support dog with and not treat them like a
    baggage...

    She didn’t even let me give water in the three hours to the dog. She
    kept raising her voice to keep the dog in the cage (which he was) but no
    water unbelievable behavior for the manager, very disappointing...

    I understand that there are rules and regulations and I bought the right
    cage for the 6 kg puppy but this kind of behavior I have never seen...

    I paid high price for this ticket and received zero customer service...

    On top of that I requested a wheel chair and no one would help me get
    out of the plane...

    Type Of Traveller Business
    Seat Type Business Class
    Route Vienna to Larnaca
    Date Flown November 2024..."

    ;-(

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 18:27:03 2025
    dsi1 wrote on 5/5/2025 5:31 PM:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:58:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the
    DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    Of course Tom Waits is white. What's your point? I've heard Tom Waits
    before. How many times do I have to listen to the same old things? I especially don't want to hear some old guy that used to be relevant over
    60 years ago. I've had it up to here with that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfwRqYqQbU

    Uncle, do yoose listed to any H-pop music?

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue May 6 01:44:56 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Thank your lucky stars for how all history played out before you were
    conceived. Otherwise, two other people might, or might not, be posting
    here and now. Thanks, all of history before me!

    Why would it matter? There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.


    No, there's just the history of humanity. Any glitch in that long chain, including a second or stroke in your conception, and you wouldn't exist.
    I'm not religious (and I don't do this), but I should marvel at every day
    that I'm alive. So should you. So should everyone.
    Hmmmmm, I'm thinking of starting a church. I will call it the "Church of History". You in?

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue May 6 01:30:07 2025
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?


    Here's my current definition. A bloated bureaucracy, shot full of graft,
    ruling and regulating private industry out of existence or overseas and
    casting the populace into dependency upon the government's fungal largesse, provided by leeching off those who still produce and printing money.

    Remember Cindy, all you have to do is pass a civil service exam and know somebody to become rich, rich, rich! Bloated salary, benefits and
    retirement for the chosen, considering the little they have to do.
    Just vote Democrat!

    Your definition is government owned industry. That's archaic. Get with
    the times. Oh, and the people *are* the government! That's never been
    true. Something that is true is that people get the government that they deserve.

    Luv ya!

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue May 6 01:50:56 2025
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:40:05 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:31:03 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:58:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the >>>>DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the >>>>usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    Of course Tom Waits is white. What's your point? I've heard Tom Waits >>before. How many times do I have to listen to the same old things? I >>especially don't want to hear some old guy that used to be relevant over
    60 years ago. I've had it up to here with that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfwRqYqQbU

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    You want to know which white guy that I like? I like many white folks.
    That's a strange request. Would a token colored guy in the group be
    okay? Sorry about that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMAPW7ZoOLw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zhIO2YeBGo

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Tue May 6 11:58:11 2025
    On 6 May 2025 01:30:07 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?

    Here's my current definition. A bloated bureaucracy, shot full of graft, >ruling and regulating private industry out of existence or overseas and >casting the populace into dependency upon the government's fungal largesse, >provided by leeching off those who still produce and printing money.

    You just list everything you dislike and call that communism. I think
    when you say "communist" you really mean "bad".

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Tue May 6 12:03:22 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 01:50:56 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:40:05 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    You want to know which white guy that I like? I like many white folks.
    That's a strange request. Would a token colored guy in the group be
    okay? Sorry about that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMAPW7ZoOLw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zhIO2YeBGo

    I don't know Harry Styles' music. Didn't he start as the singer of a
    boy band? I also don't know Beck. Isn't Jeff Beck a person? Is it that
    Beck? I don't know the music of Jeff Beck -if he exists- either.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Tue May 6 02:14:26 2025
    On 2025-05-05, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the
    DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.


    Nah, K-PoP. "Touch My Body" by Sistar. I would provide a link, but it's probably infected. Anyway, it's the only K-Pop tune I ever saw, and it
    was on "Family Guy". Terrific!
    "Candy, Quahog, Marshmallow" was the episode. Everyone get back to me.
    ;)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Tue May 6 12:29:24 2025
    On 6 May 2025 02:14:26 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2025-05-05, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the
    DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Nah, K-PoP. "Touch My Body" by Sistar. I would provide a link, but it's >probably infected. Anyway, it's the only K-Pop tune I ever saw, and it
    was on "Family Guy". Terrific!
    "Candy, Quahog, Marshmallow" was the episode. Everyone get back to me.
    ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9txzvu6eQuw

    Lollipop music for girlies, an original choice coming from you!

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue May 6 02:20:54 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 2:03:22 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 01:50:56 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:40:05 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    You want to know which white guy that I like? I like many white folks. >>That's a strange request. Would a token colored guy in the group be
    okay? Sorry about that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMAPW7ZoOLw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zhIO2YeBGo

    I don't know Harry Styles' music. Didn't he start as the singer of a
    boy band? I also don't know Beck. Isn't Jeff Beck a person? Is it that
    Beck? I don't know the music of Jeff Beck -if he exists- either.

    I think these guys are cool. They're cool white artists. You probably
    don't know who they are either. The girl used to be Antony Bourdain's
    GF. He'd probably be alive if he didn't dump her. Well that's my guess
    anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=498zUzNGQxY

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Tue May 6 12:37:47 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 02:20:54 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 2:03:22 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 01:50:56 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:40:05 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    You want to know which white guy that I like? I like many white folks. >>>That's a strange request. Would a token colored guy in the group be
    okay? Sorry about that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMAPW7ZoOLw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zhIO2YeBGo

    I don't know Harry Styles' music. Didn't he start as the singer of a
    boy band? I also don't know Beck. Isn't Jeff Beck a person? Is it that
    Beck? I don't know the music of Jeff Beck -if he exists- either.

    I think these guys are cool. They're cool white artists. You probably
    don't know who they are either. The girl used to be Antony Bourdain's
    GF. He'd probably be alive if he didn't dump her. Well that's my guess >anyway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=498zUzNGQxY

    I like that. But are you sure about the link with Bourdain?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Mon May 5 22:29:12 2025
    On 2025-05-05 9:30 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?


    Here's my current definition. A bloated bureaucracy, shot full of graft, ruling and regulating private industry out of existence or overseas and casting the populace into dependency upon the government's fungal largesse, provided by leeching off those who still produce and printing money.

    Remember Cindy, all you have to do is pass a civil service exam and know somebody to become rich, rich, rich! Bloated salary, benefits and
    retirement for the chosen, considering the little they have to do.
    Just vote Democrat!

    I didn't have to pass an exam to get a job with the government but most
    of the jobs I had involved regular training. My last job involved
    extensive initial training. I had on the job training for several months
    before I was sent to police college. I also had at least four weeks of training per year. Even more in my case because I taught some of the
    courses.

    My son works for the federal government and had to go through testing to
    get into the hiring pool. His last step in the application process was
    to successfully complete an 18 week unpaid training course. It wasn't
    even a job offer. He had to quit his old job and sublet his apartment to
    go on the course. Jobs were posted on the last day of the course for
    those who passed, and people were flunking out right to the last day.





    Your definition is government owned industry. That's archaic. Get with
    the times. Oh, and the people *are* the government! That's never been
    true. Something that is true is that people get the government that they deserve.

    Luv ya!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue May 6 13:03:12 2025
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:50:08 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/5/2025 9:30 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?

    Here's my current definition. A bloated bureaucracy, shot full of graft,
    ruling and regulating private industry out of existence or overseas and
    casting the populace into dependency upon the government's fungal largesse, >> provided by leeching off those who still produce and printing money.

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.

    Leo thinks sending industry overseas is bad. But Leo calls bad
    "communist", so it was the communists who sent those industries
    overseas! It's a matter of translation.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Mon May 5 22:50:08 2025
    On 5/5/2025 9:30 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?


    Here's my current definition. A bloated bureaucracy, shot full of graft, ruling and regulating private industry out of existence or overseas and casting the populace into dependency upon the government's fungal largesse, provided by leeching off those who still produce and printing money.


    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.

    Buy tooling from long term reliable US supplier in 6 weeks for $6000 or
    get it from China in 2 weeks for $3000? Those commie bastards bought
    from China.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon May 5 23:01:15 2025
    On 2025-05-05 10:50 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:30 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?


    Here's my current definition. A bloated bureaucracy, shot full of graft,
    ruling and regulating private industry out of existence or overseas and
    casting the populace into dependency upon the government's fungal
    largesse,
    provided by leeching off those who still produce and printing money.


    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies.

    Buy tooling from long term reliable US supplier in 6 weeks for $6000 or
    get it from China in 2 weeks for $3000?  Those commie bastards bought
    from China.

    That's pretty much how things played out here. We had a lot of heavy
    industry in this area during the 70s and 80s and then there was a push
    from the US for free trade. Remove tariffs and trade barriers and let
    goods be traded internationally without protectionism. It was no
    surprise to a lot of people here that a lot of operations were shutting
    down and moving south. Then he had NAFTA. The Canadian dollar had been
    low compared to the US dollar. Then about 20 years ago our dollar surged
    so our goods were more expensive for importers. As a result, the local
    John Deere plant closed down and moved to Mexico.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue May 6 03:08:36 2025
    On 2025-05-06, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9txzvu6eQuw

    Lollipop music for girlies, an original choice coming from you!


    Great link! Thanks! How could anyone choose J-Pop over this? All I had
    before were snippets. So much to learn. So little time. 🙁😊😉 

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Tue May 6 15:07:02 2025
    On 6 May 2025 03:08:36 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2025-05-06, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9txzvu6eQuw

    Lollipop music for girlies, an original choice coming from you!


    Great link! Thanks! How could anyone choose J-Pop over this? All I had
    before were snippets. So much to learn. So little time. 🙁😊😉 

    And then there's L-Pop (Laos) and C-Pop (Cambodia).

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue May 6 09:08:35 2025
    On 2025-05-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:31:03 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:58:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the >>>>DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the >>>>usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    Of course Tom Waits is white. What's your point? I've heard Tom Waits >>before. How many times do I have to listen to the same old things? I >>especially don't want to hear some old guy that used to be relevant over
    60 years ago. I've had it up to here with that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfwRqYqQbU

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    Of course, I like music that's whiter and older:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tku8ceGJ4dk

    I can't remember the exact circumstances, but a black guy once
    heard this and told my first husband "That's the whitest music
    I've ever heard."

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Tue May 6 09:15:03 2025
    On 2025-05-06, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?


    Here's my current definition. A bloated bureaucracy, shot full of graft, ruling and regulating private industry out of existence or overseas and casting the populace into dependency upon the government's fungal largesse, provided by leeching off those who still produce and printing money.

    Remember Cindy, all you have to do is pass a civil service exam and know somebody to become rich, rich, rich! Bloated salary, benefits and
    retirement for the chosen, considering the little they have to do.
    Just vote Democrat!

    I'm sorry you think government employees like park rangers don't
    work hard.

    Bloated salary, benefits, and retirement are characteristic of
    many private-sector jobs. As an example, I give you: the
    insurance industry.

    Your definition is government owned industry. That's archaic. Get with
    the times. Oh, and the people *are* the government! That's never been
    true. Something that is true is that people get the government that they deserve.

    It's not _my_ definition. It's _the_ definition. I was unaware
    that conservatives were so lax with the truth. Isn't it your
    belief that's the province of the Left?

    Sadly, we're getting the government we deserve right now. Good
    and hard. It was a nice experiment, but I think the U.S. is done
    for.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Tue May 6 09:17:42 2025
    On 2025-05-06, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    Thank your lucky stars for how all history played out before you were
    conceived. Otherwise, two other people might, or might not, be posting
    here and now. Thanks, all of history before me!

    Why would it matter? There isn't some sort of cosmic waiting
    room where people are queued up to be born.


    No, there's just the history of humanity. Any glitch in that long chain, including a second or stroke in your conception, and you wouldn't exist.

    And it wouldn't matter. I'd never know.

    If abortion had been legal in 1956, we wouldn't be having this
    conversation. There wouldn't be a "me" to keep my side of it.
    I'm fine with that.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Tue May 6 20:56:49 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 09:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-05-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:31:03 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:58:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the >>>>>DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the >>>>>usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    Of course Tom Waits is white. What's your point? I've heard Tom Waits >>>before. How many times do I have to listen to the same old things? I >>>especially don't want to hear some old guy that used to be relevant over >>>60 years ago. I've had it up to here with that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfwRqYqQbU

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    Of course, I like music that's whiter and older:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tku8ceGJ4dk

    I can't remember the exact circumstances, but a black guy once
    heard this and told my first husband "That's the whitest music
    I've ever heard."

    I understand what he said. It may be a bit lacking in the rhythm
    department :)

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue May 6 11:05:01 2025
    On 2025-05-06 3:08 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:31:03 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:58:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the >>>>> DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the
    usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    Of course Tom Waits is white. What's your point? I've heard Tom Waits
    before. How many times do I have to listen to the same old things? I
    especially don't want to hear some old guy that used to be relevant over >>> 60 years ago. I've had it up to here with that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfwRqYqQbU

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    Of course, I like music that's whiter and older:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tku8ceGJ4dk

    I can't remember the exact circumstances, but a black guy once
    heard this and told my first husband "That's the whitest music
    I've ever heard."

    Perhaps you'll like this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdXu4rDpxSI

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue May 6 17:42:46 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 2:37:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:


    I like that. But are you sure about the link with Bourdain?

    If I wrote it, it's probably true.

    https://explorepartsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/23596_049_0024_r.jpeg

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Tue May 6 13:43:20 2025
    On 2025-05-06 5:08 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Of course, I like music that's whiter and older:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tku8ceGJ4dk

    I can't remember the exact circumstances, but a black guy once
    heard this and told my first husband "That's the whitest music
    I've ever heard."



    Whiter than this?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94viw75ulc&ab_channel=PtiteTomate

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Wed May 7 04:08:17 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 17:42:46 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 2:37:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:


    I like that. But are you sure about the link with Bourdain?

    If I wrote it, it's probably true.

    https://explorepartsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/23596_049_0024_r.jpeg

    I asked AI. They were friends but weren't in a relationship.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Tue May 6 18:12:34 2025
    On 2025-05-06, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-06 3:08 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:31:03 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:58:49 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:31 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    These days, KTUH is still going strong. The main difference is that the >>>>>> DJ could be speaking Hawaiian and the music is more varied than the >>>>>> usual college radio fare. My favorite programming is J-Pop.

    Of course, it's Asian. My favourite's Tom Waits. He's white. Yay!

    Of course Tom Waits is white. What's your point? I've heard Tom Waits
    before. How many times do I have to listen to the same old things? I
    especially don't want to hear some old guy that used to be relevant over >>>> 60 years ago. I've had it up to here with that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfwRqYqQbU

    Tom Waits is just an example. Pick a newer guy. You only like J-Pop
    because it's Asian. After all these years, I know how you work. J-Pop
    and Kewpie mayo! :)

    Of course, I like music that's whiter and older:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tku8ceGJ4dk

    I can't remember the exact circumstances, but a black guy once
    heard this and told my first husband "That's the whitest music
    I've ever heard."

    Perhaps you'll like this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdXu4rDpxSI

    I even know how to do some of those dances.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue May 6 14:26:39 2025
    On 5/6/2025 1:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-06 5:08 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Of course, I like music that's whiter and older:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tku8ceGJ4dk

    I can't remember the exact circumstances, but a black guy once
    heard this and told my first husband "That's the whitest music
    I've ever heard."



    Whiter than this?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94viw75ulc&ab_channel=PtiteTomate

    I could not move my feet that fast is I was suspended by a cable.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue May 6 19:46:19 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 18:08:17 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 17:42:46 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 2:37:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:


    I like that. But are you sure about the link with Bourdain?

    If I wrote it, it's probably true.
    https://explorepartsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/23596_049_0024_r.jpeg

    I asked AI. They were friends but weren't in a relationship.

    You believe AI. I don't. Well okay.

    Here's one of my favorite songs. I think the singer is white but it's
    hard to tell. My guess is that he associates with colored folks -
    Brazilians tend to do that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAZJxDNj4Q

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Wed May 7 07:16:05 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 19:46:19 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 18:08:17 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 17:42:46 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 2:37:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    I like that. But are you sure about the link with Bourdain?

    If I wrote it, it's probably true.
    https://explorepartsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/23596_049_0024_r.jpeg

    I asked AI. They were friends but weren't in a relationship.

    You believe AI. I don't. Well okay.

    Just read Wikipedia about his personal life. Can you really still not
    handle being wrong, even about something this insignificant? That must
    be that Japanese pride or ego I've heard mentioned a few times.

    Here's one of my favorite songs. I think the singer is white but it's
    hard to tell. My guess is that he associates with colored folks -
    Brazilians tend to do that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAZJxDNj4Q

    I think so too. He's become off white. I know the tune but I don't
    know from what.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue May 6 21:38:05 2025
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 5/6/2025 1:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-06 5:08 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-05, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Of course, I like music that's whiter and older:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tku8ceGJ4dk

    I can't remember the exact circumstances, but a black guy once
    heard this and told my first husband "That's the whitest music
    I've ever heard."



    Whiter than this?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94viw75ulc&ab_channel=PtiteTomate

    I could not move my feet that fast is I was suspended by a cable.

    Oh, there are some I'm too old to do. But I still know the steps.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Wed May 7 11:40:48 2025
    On Wed, 7 May 2025 01:19:43 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 21:16:05 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 19:46:19 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    Here's one of my favorite songs. I think the singer is white but it's >>>hard to tell. My guess is that he associates with colored folks - >>>Brazilians tend to do that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAZJxDNj4Q

    I think so too. He's become off white. I know the tune but I don't
    know from what.

    The tune is a favorite of mariachi bands. The title is the call of the >paloma.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82cd-EUdmWs

    Haha. I prefer the Brazilian's version.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed May 7 01:19:43 2025
    On Tue, 6 May 2025 21:16:05 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 19:46:19 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 18:08:17 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 17:42:46 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 6 May 2025 2:37:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    I like that. But are you sure about the link with Bourdain?

    If I wrote it, it's probably true.
    https://explorepartsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/23596_049_0024_r.jpeg

    I asked AI. They were friends but weren't in a relationship.

    You believe AI. I don't. Well okay.

    Just read Wikipedia about his personal life. Can you really still not
    handle being wrong, even about something this insignificant? That must
    be that Japanese pride or ego I've heard mentioned a few times.

    Here's one of my favorite songs. I think the singer is white but it's
    hard to tell. My guess is that he associates with colored folks - >>Brazilians tend to do that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAZJxDNj4Q

    I think so too. He's become off white. I know the tune but I don't
    know from what.

    The tune is a favorite of mariachi bands. The title is the call of the
    paloma.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82cd-EUdmWs

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu May 8 23:19:55 2025
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here. Jump through a
    million hoops and start a manufacturing business. The fact that we have
    to buy parts for munitions from any other country is a crime in itself,
    and the bastards that promoted that economic model should be in jail.

    Buy tooling from long term reliable US supplier in 6 weeks for $6000 or
    get it from China in 2 weeks for $3000? Those commie bastards bought
    from China.

    As a country, do you think we are stronger or weaker than we were 25
    years ago? Are we better or worse?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Fri May 9 09:25:27 2025
    On 8 May 2025 23:19:55 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here. Jump through a >million hoops and start a manufacturing business. The fact that we have
    to buy parts for munitions from any other country is a crime in itself,
    and the bastards that promoted that economic model should be in jail.

    Buy tooling from long term reliable US supplier in 6 weeks for $6000 or
    get it from China in 2 weeks for $3000? Those commie bastards bought
    from China.

    As a country, do you think we are stronger or weaker than we were 25
    years ago? Are we better or worse?

    A LOT worse under the Orange Moron.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu May 8 19:37:01 2025
    On 5/8/2025 7:19 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here. Jump through a million hoops and start a manufacturing business. The fact that we have
    to buy parts for munitions from any other country is a crime in itself,
    and the bastards that promoted that economic model should be in jail.

    Yes, and Trump will change that. As kids, we were able to breath in
    coal pollutants. Donnie wants our grandkids to be able to do the same.
    We can improve out life but don't want to pay to do it. Profit is the
    big motivator, not health and safety. It is how we make billionaires.

    Buy tooling from long term reliable US supplier in 6 weeks for $6000 or
    get it from China in 2 weeks for $3000? Those commie bastards bought
    from China.

    As a country, do you think we are stronger or weaker than we were 25
    years ago? Are we better or worse?

    Our customers in the end paid for tooling. At $6000, we'd have less
    customers.

    We are what we chose to be. We like cheap computers and TVs so we get
    them overseas. We have willingly given up some of our manufacturing
    abilities in favor of cheap. We don't have the people to bring back manufacturing as it was decades ago. If we cut off trade with tariffs,
    our lifestyle will certainly decline. Two identical cars are sitting on
    the dealer lot. One was built last week. The other has more US made
    parts and labor but the price tag is $5000 more. What one will to buy?

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu May 8 20:47:35 2025
    On 2025-05-08 7:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here. Jump through a million hoops and start a manufacturing business. The fact that we have
    to buy parts for munitions from any other country is a crime in itself,
    and the bastards that promoted that economic model should be in jail.

    Buy tooling from long term reliable US supplier in 6 weeks for $6000 or
    get it from China in 2 weeks for $3000? Those commie bastards bought
    from China.

    As a country, do you think we are stronger or weaker than we were 25
    years ago? Are we better or worse?


    The oligarchy was not as obvious 25 years ago.

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri May 9 00:47:55 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-05-05 9:30 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-04, Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Could you provide your definition of "communism"?


    Here's my current definition. A bloated bureaucracy, shot full of
    graft, ruling and regulating private industry out of existence or
    overseas and casting the populace into dependency upon the
    government's fungal largesse, provided by leeching off those who
    still produce and printing money.

    Remember Cindy, all you have to do is pass a civil service exam and
    know somebody to become rich, rich, rich! Bloated salary, benefits
    and retirement for the chosen, considering the little they have to
    do. Just vote Democrat!

    I didn't have to pass an exam to get a job with the government but
    most of the jobs I had involved regular training. My last job
    involved extensive initial training. I had on the job training for
    several months before I was sent to police college. I also had at
    least four weeks of training per year. Even more in my case because I
    taught some of the courses.

    My son works for the federal government and had to go through testing
    to get into the hiring pool. His last step in the application process
    was to successfully complete an 18 week unpaid training course. It
    wasn't even a job offer. He had to quit his old job and sublet his
    apartment to go on the course. Jobs were posted on the last day of
    the course for those who passed, and people were flunking out right
    to the last day.

    Interesting. I worked for the government post Navy and time as a
    contractor. No exam, just interview but it was intense interviews. If
    you didn't know your stuff, it was immediately apparent.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri May 9 02:07:15 2025
    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A LOT worse under the Orange Moron.


    The TDS is strong in this one.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu May 8 21:35:37 2025
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote on 5/8/2025 9:07 PM:
    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A LOT worse under the Orange Moron.


    The TDS is strong in this one.


    Yes, and it can only be cured by gently kissing trump's anus.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Fri May 9 12:41:30 2025
    On 9 May 2025 02:07:15 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A LOT worse under the Orange Moron.


    The TDS is strong in this one.

    Is TDS what made people vote for the Orange Moron?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Fri May 9 13:04:31 2025
    On 9 May 2025 02:07:15 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A LOT worse under the Orange Moron.

    The TDS is strong in this one.

    Really, Leo, the Pentagon is firing 1000 transgender soldiers. They'll
    also go through the medical files of all their military and anybody
    who has any signs of gender issues will also be fired. Transgenders
    who are in the closet are called upon to report themselves so they can
    be fired as well.

    This is becoming pure fascism.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu May 8 21:32:35 2025
    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US governments,

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri May 9 09:22:35 2025
    On 2025-05-08, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here. Jump through a million hoops and start a manufacturing business. The fact that we have
    to buy parts for munitions from any other country is a crime in itself,
    and the bastards that promoted that economic model should be in jail.

    Buy tooling from long term reliable US supplier in 6 weeks for $6000 or
    get it from China in 2 weeks for $3000? Those commie bastards bought
    from China.

    As a country, do you think we are stronger or weaker than we were 25
    years ago? Are we better or worse?

    25 years ago was 2000. All of that stuff about rules and regulations
    started 55 years ago. (And why don't you like clean air and water?)

    Weaker. Our relationships with other countries have been trashed.
    Public discourse has bottomed out. The separation of powers has
    been hollowed. The President is a bullying imbecile. Congress
    won't stand up to him. The courts have no enforcement power.

    We were better off 1 year ago than we are now.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri May 9 09:24:07 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US governments,

    I think he's cross with the implementation of the Clean Air Act and
    the Clean Water Act.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Fri May 9 19:33:13 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 09:24:07 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-05-09, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.

    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,

    I think he's cross with the implementation of the Clean Air Act and
    the Clean Water Act.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Fri May 9 19:34:25 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 09:24:07 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-05-09, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,

    I think he's cross with the implementation of the Clean Air Act and
    the Clean Water Act.

    I think Leo's paranoid.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri May 9 07:31:51 2025
    On 2025-05-09 5:24 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,

    I think he's cross with the implementation of the Clean Air Act and
    the Clean Water Act.


    Transportation used to be heavily regulated. We had a system up here
    that was pretty much like the US. Trucking companies had to have an
    operating to license to haul for hire and those licenses restricted the
    goods they could carry and the places they could service. Goods shipped between the US and Canada were dropped near the border and then picked
    up by local carriers. It was a hassle for everyone. Under the guide of
    the US, the trucking business was deregulated and companies could bring
    their goods in and drop them off and to pick up goods for the return.
    They could not operate point to point in the other country. Now
    Americans are complaining about Canadian and Mexican trucks and
    Canadians are complaining about American trucks.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri May 9 07:23:50 2025
    On 2025-05-08 11:32 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US governments,


    It is strange that the US keeps changing it's policies and expects its
    allies and trading partners to go along with them and then changing
    their minds and blaming us for the failures they see in their own plans.
    I remember most of us viewing NAFTA as a sell out that would see our industries pack up and move to the US and Mexico. Then in Trump's first
    term he tore up NAFTA in return for a new trilateral trade deal that he
    thought was the best deal ever. Now he wants to throw that out and
    force a new deal on everyone.

    Trump is also whining about how the US has been protecting Canada for
    years. The US is the only country that has protected Canada. Yes, the
    US has built and maintained NORAD bases in the Canadian North. They are
    not to protect Canada. They are they to protect the US from Russian
    attacks that would come over the pole. They want to be able to detect
    them early and to shoot them down over Canada before they can hit the
    US. Let us deal with the debris. We should considering cancelling
    NORAD and let them save their money.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri May 9 12:26:54 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-08 11:32 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    It is strange that the US keeps changing it's policies and expects its
    allies and trading partners to go along with them and then changing
    their minds and blaming us for the failures they see in their own plans.

    Not "the US". Just one deranged man.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri May 9 14:20:05 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Leonard Blaisdell wrote on 5/8/2025 9:07 PM:


    The TDS is strong in this one.


    Yes, and it can only be cured by gently kissing trump's anus.


    Naw, ya only have to "kiss the ring", Sire Hank...

    And the RING is made of pure GOLD...!!!

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri May 9 14:50:33 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith wrote:

    Now Americans are complaining about Canadian and Mexican
    trucks and Canadians are complaining about American trucks.

    My brother is still working(*) for the police, so he's much
    more current on what people are complaining about.

    I'm not sure about the general populace, but the ones
    who lease trucks are complaining most about immigrants
    from _____ who cut a hole in the floor of the cab so
    that their schedule is not encumbered with bathroom stops.

    (Talk about 'Yellow-Line Fever'.)

    (*) They made him take some shooting tests to see if he
    could continue with duties requiring a handgun. He hit
    all the targets accurately, but he failed because
    they noticed that his firearm was not 'standard',
    because it was missing the back sight. Apparently,
    you are supposed to notice when this happens because
    it might interfere with the procedure to use when
    one arm has been injured and then a bullet is a
    dud and you need to re-chamber another by standing
    on one foot and raking the sights with your boot.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri May 9 15:37:15 2025
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US governments,


    Carney talked tough about Trump to win the election, but he's got all
    sorts of problems to deal with, including a really ticked - off
    population in Alberta...

    He needs to get this settled as quickly as possible so that he can work
    on calming secessionist talks out west...

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed stepchild of the socialist
    dolts in the east...

    Ottawa needs to hold the line, embrace their nationalism and seek closer
    ties to the EU while the US negotiates with Alberta AND Saskatchewan to
    join the US as the 51st and 52nd state...

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 9 11:23:43 2025
    On 5/9/2025 10:50 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:


    I'm not sure about the general populace, but the ones
    who lease trucks are complaining most about immigrants
    from _____ who cut a hole in the floor of the cab so
    that their schedule is not encumbered with bathroom stops.

    (Talk about 'Yellow-Line Fever'.)

    The rental companies should install something for them. Going back some decades, I know of a guy that drilled a hole in the floor of his Chevy
    and had a hose with a funnel to be used on long trips.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 10:09:23 2025
    On 2025-05-09 9:37 a.m., gm wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    Carney talked tough about Trump to win the election, but he's got all
    sorts of problems to deal with, including a really ticked - off
    population in Alberta...

    He needs to get this settled as quickly as possible so that he can work
    on calming secessionist talks out west...

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed stepchild of the socialist
    dolts in the east...

    Ottawa needs to hold the line, embrace their nationalism and seek closer
    ties to the EU while the US negotiates with Alberta AND Saskatchewan to
    join the US as the 51st and 52nd state...

    --
    GM

    --
    As usual, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about!

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri May 9 16:36:40 2025
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-09 9:37 a.m., gm wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more >>>>> profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    Carney talked tough about Trump to win the election, but he's got all
    sorts of problems to deal with, including a really ticked - off
    population in Alberta...

    He needs to get this settled as quickly as possible so that he can work
    on calming secessionist talks out west...

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed stepchild of the socialist
    dolts in the east...

    Ottawa needs to hold the line, embrace their nationalism and seek closer
    ties to the EU while the US negotiates with Alberta AND Saskatchewan to
    join the US as the 51st and 52nd state...

    -
    GM


    As usual, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about!


    Thank you, andcoming from you, that's a SPLENDID compliment, My Good
    Man...!!!

    If Alberta joins the States, will you "flee" to Cuba, Ontario, North
    Korea, or Quebec as a "political refugee from TRUMP", Graham...???

    OH, and Canada has long been one of NATO’s laggards. It has NEVER met
    the alliance’s target of spending at least 2 percent of GDP on defense
    and shelled out a mere 1.37 percent of GDP in 2024 - simply
    SHAMEFUL...!!!

    Read and WEEP, Graham... BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA...!!!

    NATIONAL REVIEW:

    https://archive.ph/UCyhj

    Mark Carney Will Lose the Standoff with Trump

    He has no good options.

    "Thursday’s U.K.-U.S. trade deal may give hope to Canadian Prime
    Minister Mark Carney that his nation could score a similarly rapid pact.
    He should think again...

    President Trump’s deal with Great Britain likely came so quickly because
    so little was truly at stake. The U.S. had an $11.9 billion trade
    surplus in goods with Britain in 2024. Add in the trade in services, and
    the U.S. surplus grew to $78 billion...

    America, on the other hand, ran a combined $31.6 billion goods and
    services trade deficit with Canada in 2023...

    Trump wildly overstates the true amount when he says the U.S. subsidizes
    Canada to the tune of $200 billion a year, but it’s clear he intends to
    turn that into a surplus...

    Turning that around means either Canada would have to export less to the
    U.S. or, the more likely path, purchase more from it. Either approach
    would cause Carney significant economic and political headaches...

    Canada could cut the trade deficit a lot by purchasing U.S. weaponry as
    part of a military spending increase. Canada has long been one of NATO’s laggards...

    It has never met the alliance’s target of spending at least 2 percent of
    GDP on defense and shelled out a mere 1.37 percent of GDP in 2024...

    It’s just a fact that Canada’s economy depends much more on sales to the United States than vice versa. Fully 19 percent of Canada’s GDP consists
    of exports to the U.S.; only 1.5 percent of U.S. GDP comes from exports
    to Canada...

    No wonder Canadians say that when America sneezes, Canada catches a
    cold...

    Carney, then, has a choice...

    Do what British Prime Minister Keir Starmer did and strike a quick deal
    on America’s terms and take the heat or play to the domestic audience
    and hope to wait Trump out...

    Having just won an election by playing on Canadians’ historic fear of
    their much larger neighbor, Carney will likely take the second path —
    and pay a much higher price when he eventually must bow to reality...'

    ;-D

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri May 9 16:50:13 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:09:23 +0000, Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-09 9:37 a.m., gm wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more >>>>> profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    Carney talked tough about Trump to win the election, but he's got all
    sorts of problems to deal with, including a really ticked - off
    population in Alberta...

    He needs to get this settled as quickly as possible so that he can work
    on calming secessionist talks out west...

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed stepchild of the socialist
    dolts in the east...

    Ottawa needs to hold the line, embrace their nationalism and seek closer
    ties to the EU while the US negotiates with Alberta AND Saskatchewan to
    join the US as the 51st and 52nd state...

    --
    GM

    --
    As usual, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about!


    Canada acts more like parasites and vampires rather than a good ally...

    Just look at their PITIFUL military and NATO contributions, and their
    "threats" to ally with a hostile COMMUNIST China...

    They routinely undercut US industries like forest products and agro,
    etc. and bar US businesses from operations in Canada...

    Although I haven't seen any numbers, I wouldn't be surprised if 60 or
    70% of Canada's national wealth comes from the US economy...

    I say if Canada is so offended by being asked to pay their fair share
    and be a decent trading and defence partner then CLOSE the border...

    That would also mean the many thousands who need medical care that they
    can't get in Canada would no longer be able to SPONGE from our own
    superiour US healthcare system....



    ;-P

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    GM

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri May 9 19:17:27 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Ed P wrote:

    On 5/9/2025 10:50 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    The rental companies should install something for them
    [...] I know of a guy that drilled a hole in the floor
    of his Chevy and had a hose with a funnel

    Why not just a 5-gallon pail with a tight lid?

    Surely it could be fixed to the floor the same
    place they would drill the 'toilet' hole.

    At risk of going into 'potty talk' as I am wont
    to accuse Bryan of, surely it would minimize
    'accidents' as well as single-vehicle incidents
    where someone swerves off the highway to
    avoid a shit-stain.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri May 9 19:13:00 2025
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-09 9:37 a.m., gm wrote:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more >>>>> profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    Carney talked tough about Trump to win the election, but he's got all
    sorts of problems to deal with, including a really ticked - off
    population in Alberta...

    He needs to get this settled as quickly as possible so that he can work
    on calming secessionist talks out west...

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed stepchild of the socialist
    dolts in the east...

    Ottawa needs to hold the line, embrace their nationalism and seek closer
    ties to the EU while the US negotiates with Alberta AND Saskatchewan to
    join the US as the 51st and 52nd state...


    GM

    As usual, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about!


    Go Trump..!!!

    Crush the left..!!!

    ;-P

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    GM

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 19:33:42 2025
    On 2025-05-09, gm wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-09 9:37 a.m., gm wrote:

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed
    stepchild of the socialist dolts in the east...

    As usual, you don't know what
    the fuck you are talking about!

    If Alberta joins the States, will you "flee"
    to Cuba, Ontario, North Korea, or Quebec
    as a "political refugee from TRUMP", Graham...???

    Silly Greg! Everyone in Canada knows that whining about
    the Crown's unfair government is the job of Québecers.

    I should know, I've lived in Québec a few décennies.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 9 19:37:45 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-05-09, gm wrote:

    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-09 9:37 a.m., gm wrote:

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed
    stepchild of the socialist dolts in the east...

    As usual, you don't know what
    the fuck you are talking about!

    If Alberta joins the States, will you "flee"
    to Cuba, Ontario, North Korea, or Quebec
    as a "political refugee from TRUMP", Graham...???

    Silly Greg! Everyone in Canada knows that whining about
    the Crown's unfair government is the job of Québecers.

    I should know, I've lived in Québec a few décennies.


    And I admire you your fortitude...!!!

    --
    GM

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 9 16:28:38 2025
    On 5/9/2025 3:17 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Ed P wrote:

    On 5/9/2025 10:50 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    The rental companies should install something for them
    [...] I know of a guy that drilled a hole in the floor
    of his Chevy and had a hose with a funnel

    Why not just a 5-gallon pail with a tight lid?


    This was for liquid only. Can be used while driving.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri May 9 17:10:16 2025
    On 2025-05-09 8:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    It is strange that the US keeps changing it's policies and expects its
    allies and trading partners to go along with them and then changing
    their minds and blaming us for the failures they see in their own plans.

    Not "the US". Just one deranged man.



    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The Trumpster
    is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans
    voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people
    outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted for him
    to be their president.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri May 9 17:27:27 2025
    On 2025-05-09 4:28 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 3:17 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Ed P wrote:

    On 5/9/2025 10:50 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    The rental companies should install something for them
    [...] I know of a guy that drilled a hole in the floor
    of his Chevy and had a hose with a funnel

    Why not just a 5-gallon pail with a tight lid?


    This was for liquid only.  Can be used while driving.


    Go hardcore and get a catheter.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 9 17:24:36 2025
    On 2025-05-09 10:50 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith wrote:

    Now Americans are complaining about Canadian and Mexican
    trucks and Canadians are complaining about American trucks.

    My brother is still working(*) for the police, so he's much
    more current on what people are complaining about.

    I'm not sure about the general populace, but the ones
    who lease trucks are complaining most about immigrants
    from _____ who cut a hole in the floor of the cab so
    that their schedule is not encumbered with bathroom stops.

    I have heard those stories but never saw any evidence of it. I worked
    in on a highway when I started with the Ministry and we used to come
    across all kinds of plastic pop bottles that had been recycled as
    portable urinals and that was long before the days of south Asian drivers.

    (Talk about 'Yellow-Line Fever'.)

    (*) They made him take some shooting tests to see if he
    could continue with duties requiring a handgun. He hit
    all the targets accurately, but he failed because
    they noticed that his firearm was not 'standard',
    because it was missing the back sight. Apparently,
    you are supposed to notice when this happens because
    it might interfere with the procedure to use when
    one arm has been injured and then a bullet is a
    dud and you need to re-chamber another by standing
    on one foot and raking the sights with your boot.

    That is an odd story. I would expect someone trained to use a firearm on
    the job to be aware that his sidearm is defective. Imagine that he ever
    had to use deadly force on the job and hit a bystander of blew off
    someone's arm because the rear sight was missing. My son carries a
    firearm on the job and has to qualify annually. A few years back he had
    to have surgery on a spider bite on his left arm. We had to take a
    couple weeks off work because it was his right arm. It would have
    affecting his options in use of force. You can't jump from open hand
    strike to firearm because you can't strike with both hands and cannot
    use the baton.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri May 9 21:41:37 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 8:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    It is strange that the US keeps changing it's policies and expects its
    allies and trading partners to go along with them and then changing
    their minds and blaming us for the failures they see in their own plans.

    Not "the US". Just one deranged man.



    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The Trumpster
    is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans
    voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people
    outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted for him
    to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies.
    Everybody else is just along for the ride.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri May 9 18:03:25 2025
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The Trumpster
    is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans
    voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people
    outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted for him
    to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies. Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the
    US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until
    our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing. The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it.
    Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they
    would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked them
    and Germany declared war. After the war they would not support France
    against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on Vietnamese reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they
    realized the communists would win followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them
    satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the
    targeting of the enemy forces. After about a decade Saddam was the bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him from Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron who insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but is is
    part of a pattern with the US.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 21:52:28 2025
    gm wrote on 5/9/2025 10:37 AM:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more
    profit. I've seen it first hand. Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    Carney talked tough about Trump to win the election, but he's got all
    sorts of problems to deal with, including a really ticked - off
    population in Alberta...

    He needs to get this settled as quickly as possible so that he can work
    on calming secessionist talks out west...

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed stepchild of the socialist
    dolts in the east...

    Ottawa needs to hold the line, embrace their nationalism and seek closer
    ties to the EU while the US negotiates with Alberta AND Saskatchewan to
    join the US as the 51st and 52nd state...


    Yep, there will be hell to pay if those fuckers don't start kissing
    trump's ass pronto.

    Maybe more tariffs.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat May 10 03:02:55 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 2:52:28 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    gm wrote on 5/9/2025 10:37 AM:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more >>>>> profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies.


    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    Carney talked tough about Trump to win the election, but he's got all
    sorts of problems to deal with, including a really ticked - off
    population in Alberta...

    He needs to get this settled as quickly as possible so that he can work
    on calming secessionist talks out west...

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed stepchild of the socialist
    dolts in the east...

    Ottawa needs to hold the line, embrace their nationalism and seek closer
    ties to the EU while the US negotiates with Alberta AND Saskatchewan to
    join the US as the 51st and 52nd state...


    Yep, there will be hell to pay if those fuckers don't start kissing
    trump's ass pronto.

    Maybe more tariffs.


    Yup...

    5000% tariffs for GRAHAM on EVERYTHING...!!!

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 22:25:13 2025
    gm wrote on 5/9/2025 10:02 PM:
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 2:52:28 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    gm wrote on 5/9/2025 10:37 AM:
    Graham wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 5:19 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-06, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Hmmmm, the capitalist sent industry overseas so they could make more >>>>>> profit.  I've seen it first hand.  Never though they were commies. >>>>>

    The government ruled and regulated industry out of here.

    Ah! Come on!!
    Starting with Reagan it has continually been deregulation with the US
    governments,


    Carney talked tough about Trump to win the election, but he's got all
    sorts of problems to deal with, including a really ticked - off
    population in Alberta...

    He needs to get this settled as quickly as possible so that he can work
    on calming secessionist talks out west...

    The Albertans are done being the red-headed stepchild of the socialist
    dolts in the east...

    Ottawa needs to hold the line, embrace their nationalism and seek closer >>> ties to the EU while the US negotiates with Alberta AND Saskatchewan to
    join the US as the 51st and 52nd state...


    Yep, there will be hell to pay if those fuckers don't start kissing
    trump's ass pronto.

    Maybe more tariffs.


    Yup...

    5000% tariffs for GRAHAM on EVERYTHING...!!!

    It could be worse. If our Orange ass-wipe has a shit hemorrhage, he
    might hit them with a complete embargo.

    That'll show those smart ass canadians!

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 10 05:09:52 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith wrote:

    Imagine that he ever had to use deadly force
    on the job and hit a bystander of blew off
    someone's arm because the rear sight was missing.

    Re-read my original post. He passed the shooting test,
    hitting all the targets okay without using the sights.

    In any case, he is happy with the desk job, and
    all of us too because within the station is
    much safer than on the street.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat May 10 05:37:04 2025
    On 2025-05-10, Hank Rogers wrote:

    It could be worse. If our Orange ass-wipe
    has a shit hemorrhage, he might hit them
    with a complete embargo.

    That'll show those smart ass canadians!

    Please explain to this one. Would a shit
    embargo mean nobody can take a shit or
    nobody gives a shit?

    More importantly, who has to kiss the
    other guy's ring, the Pope or Trump?

    As I explained in another thread, Trump's
    own perception of his self-worth is
    growing exponentially, and the only
    mathematically reasonable projection
    is that very shortly his world-view
    will become a fusion of megalomanic
    'executive orders' and apocalyptic
    prophesy.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 10 08:51:50 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The Trumpster
    is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans
    voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people
    outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted for him
    to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies.
    Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the
    US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until
    our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing. The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it.
    Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they
    would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked them
    and Germany declared war. After the war they would not support France against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on Vietnamese reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they
    realized the communists would win followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the targeting of the enemy forces. After about a decade Saddam was the bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him from Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron who insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but is is
    part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave. The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world. No other country bears
    any responsibility.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Larry@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 10 05:28:23 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    Let us not forget that enough Americans voted for him that we one the election.


    WTF does that mean, you fucking blowhard?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Larry on Sat May 10 19:34:00 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 05:28:23 -0400, Larry <la@lalala.net> wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:
    Let us not forget that enough Americans voted for him that we one the election.


    WTF does that mean, you fucking blowhard?

    He has trouble typing. He means that there are so many American
    retards, including you, that Nazi Trump got elected.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Larry@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 10 05:55:19 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 05:28:23 -0400, Larry <la@lalala.net> wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:
    Let us not forget that enough Americans voted for him that we one the election.


    WTF does that mean, you fucking blowhard?

    He has trouble typing. He means that there are so many American
    retards, including you, that Nazi Trump got elected.


    Ready for another big day of post humping, you clueless shitstain?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Sat May 10 19:20:11 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 08:51:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the
    US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until
    our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing. The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of
    Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it.
    Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they
    would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked them
    and Germany declared war. After the war they would not support France
    against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on Vietnamese
    reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they
    realized the communists would win followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them
    satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the
    targeting of the enemy forces. After about a decade Saddam was the bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him from
    Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron who
    insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but is is
    part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave. The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world. No other country bears
    any responsibility.

    But that's what you get when you list things the US is responsible
    for. We could also do another country.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Larry on Sat May 10 20:03:31 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 05:55:19 -0400, Larry <la@lalala.net> wrote:

    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 05:28:23 -0400, Larry <la@lalala.net> wrote:

    Dave Smith wrote:
    Let us not forget that enough Americans voted for him that we one the election.


    WTF does that mean, you fucking blowhard?

    He has trouble typing. He means that there are so many American
    retards, including you, that Nazi Trump got elected.


    Ready for another big day of post humping, you clueless shitstain?

    Spoken like a true Nazi Trump supporter.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 10 12:22:01 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-05-10, Hank Rogers wrote:

    It could be worse. If our Orange ass-wipe
    has a shit hemorrhage, he might hit them
    with a complete embargo.

    That'll show those smart ass canadians!

    Please explain to this one. Would a shit
    embargo mean nobody can take a shit or
    nobody gives a shit?

    More importantly, who has to kiss the
    other guy's ring, the Pope or Trump?

    As I explained in another thread, Trump's
    own perception of his self-worth is
    growing exponentially, and the only
    mathematically reasonable projection
    is that very shortly his world-view
    will become a fusion of megalomanic
    'executive orders' and apocalyptic
    prophesy.


    President TRUMP is a HERO, Mike... here's some PROOF...!!!

    NY POST:

    Trump adorns Oval Office with statue depicting Butler assassination
    attempt — as artist plans massive 9-foot sculpture

    https://nypost.com/2025/05/09/us-news/trump-adorns-oval-office-with-statue-depicting-butler-assassination-attempt/

    "President Trump has added a powerful new art piece to the Oval Office —
    a statue depicting the aftermath of the July 2024 assassination attempt
    against him in Butler, Pa...

    The sculpture was spotted sitting on a side table next to Trump’s
    Resolute Desk on Friday as the president signed several executive orders
    in front of reporters...

    The statue depicts Trump defiantly raising his fist in the air moments
    after being hit in the ear by one of would-be assassin Thomas Matthew
    Crooks’ bullets on July 13...

    “Fight Fight! Fight!” Trump shouted at rallygoers at the Butler Farm
    Show Grounds, in the iconic moment captured by the artist...

    Three Secret Service agents, including the current director of the
    agency Sean Curran, can also be seen in the art piece trying to usher
    Trump offstage...

    The White House could not immediately provide The Post with details
    about the new statue...

    However, it appears to be the work of Stan Watts, who plans to create a
    9-foot tall bronze statue capturing the moment, according to the Trump
    Statute Project website...

    “It symbolizes the divine intervention as well as the man and his
    message of unity and resilience for which America stands,” the Trump
    Statue Project, which is currently raising money to build the piece,
    said of the artwork...

    The president has added his personal touch all over the West Wing since
    taking office in January...

    Trump has added ornate, gold flourishes to the furniture, fireplace and
    walls of the Oval Office, reminiscent of the decor at his Mar-a-Lago
    estate in Palm Beach, Fla...

    He has also lined the West Wing with the front pages of The Post that
    chronicle his stunning political comeback — including the infamous issue showing Trump’s Georgia mug shot, which hangs on a wall just outside the
    Oval Office..."

    ;-D

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 10 09:23:09 2025
    On 2025-05-10 1:09 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith wrote:

    Imagine that he ever had to use deadly force
    on the job and hit a bystander of blew off
    someone's arm because the rear sight was missing.

    Re-read my original post. He passed the shooting test,
    hitting all the targets okay without using the sights.

    I read it an understood it. My point was that if he had had occasion to
    use the gun his actions would be scrutinized by a review agency. If, in
    the heat of the moment, he had missed his target, they would have jumped
    on that.


    In any case, he is happy with the desk job, and
    all of us too because within the station is
    much safer than on the street.

    Hopefully. I didn't like working in the office.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 10 09:33:58 2025
    On 2025-05-10 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The Trumpster >>>> is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans
    voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people
    outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted for him >>>> to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies.
    Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the
    US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until
    our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing. The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of
    Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it.
    Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they
    would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked them
    and Germany declared war. After the war they would not support France
    against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on Vietnamese
    reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they
    realized the communists would win followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them
    satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the
    targeting of the enemy forces. After about a decade Saddam was the bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him from
    Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron who
    insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but is is
    part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave. The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world. No other country bears
    any responsibility.

    Really? That is your read on things. The US has done some good
    things, but you guys need to get over yourselves. You are not the only democracy in the world and you act as of you are the only country with individual rights, even as we are wondering what happened to them these
    days. I pointed out a series of major policies that the US has flip
    flopped on.

    We have this current trade war bullshit that the US started. Your leader
    has decided that Canada and the US have been taking advantage of under
    the current North American free trade deal, the deal that Trump demanded
    and got just 6 years ago. T


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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 10 10:10:27 2025
    On 2025-05-10 9:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-10 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The Trumpster >>>>>> is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans >>>>>> voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people >>>>>> outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted for him >>>>>> to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies. >>>>> Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the >>>> US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until
    our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing. The >>>> US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of >>>> Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it.
    Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they
    would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked them >>>> and Germany declared war. After the war they would not support France >>>> against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on Vietnamese >>>> reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they
    realized the communists would win followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them
    satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the
    targeting of the enemy forces. After about a decade Saddam was the bad >>>> guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him from >>>> Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not exist. >>>>
    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron who >>>> insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but is is >>>> part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave. The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world. No other country bears
    any responsibility.

    Really? That is your read on things.

    That is my sarcasm on things.

    The US has done some good
    things, but you guys need to get over yourselves. You are not the only
    democracy in the world and you

    Me? Cindy Hamilton?

    act as of you are the only country with
    individual rights, even as we are wondering what happened to them these
    days. I pointed out a series of major policies that the US has flip
    flopped on.

    We have this current trade war bullshit that the US started. Your leader
    has decided that Canada and the US have been taking advantage of under
    the current North American free trade deal, the deal that Trump demanded
    and got just 6 years ago. T

    I think we both agree that Trump is a senile, narcissistic asshole.

    Cindy, you are too generous!

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 10 15:29:46 2025
    On 2025-05-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-10 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The Trumpster >>>>> is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans >>>>> voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people >>>>> outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted for him >>>>> to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies.
    Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the
    US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until
    our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing. The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of
    Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it.
    Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they
    would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked them >>> and Germany declared war. After the war they would not support France
    against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on Vietnamese >>> reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they
    realized the communists would win followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them
    satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the
    targeting of the enemy forces. After about a decade Saddam was the bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him from >>> Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron who
    insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but is is >>> part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave. The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world. No other country bears
    any responsibility.

    Really? That is your read on things.

    That is my sarcasm on things.

    The US has done some good
    things, but you guys need to get over yourselves. You are not the only democracy in the world and you

    Me? Cindy Hamilton?

    act as of you are the only country with
    individual rights, even as we are wondering what happened to them these
    days. I pointed out a series of major policies that the US has flip
    flopped on.

    We have this current trade war bullshit that the US started. Your leader
    has decided that Canada and the US have been taking advantage of under
    the current North American free trade deal, the deal that Trump demanded
    and got just 6 years ago. T

    I think we both agree that Trump is a senile, narcissistic asshole.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat May 10 16:24:08 2025
    Graham wrote:

    Cindy, you are too generous!

    Graham, it's FUN to see that President Trump "lives in the heads" of
    drooling arseholes like YOU, Cindy "I'm smarter than you!" Hamilton, and
    Dave "Barney Fife" Smit'...

    May your anti - President Trump anger, rage, and angst make you ever - miserable and maybe even SHORTEN your useless and pinched lives...

    AHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.......!!!!!!!

    <snicker>

    LOLZ...!!!

    😍 🤣 😎

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    GM

    --

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat May 10 12:18:55 2025
    On 2025-05-10 12:10 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-05-10 9:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-10 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The
    Trumpster
    is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans >>>>>>> voted for him that we one the election.  The vast majority of people >>>>>>> outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted
    for him
    to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies. >>>>>> Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the >>>>> US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until >>>>> our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing.
    The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of >>>>> Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it. >>>>> Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they >>>>> would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked
    them
    and Germany declared war.  After the war they would not support France >>>>> against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on
    Vietnamese
    reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they >>>>> realized the communists would win  followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them >>>>> satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the >>>>> targeting of the enemy forces.  After about a decade Saddam was the >>>>> bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him
    from
    Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not
    exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed  for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron
    who
    insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but
    is is
    part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave.  The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world.  No other country bears
    any responsibility.

       Really? That is your read on things.

    That is my sarcasm on things.

    The US has done some good
    things, but you guys need to get over yourselves. You are not the only
    democracy in the world and you

    Me?  Cindy Hamilton?

    act as of you are the only country with
    individual rights, even as we are wondering what happened to them these
    days. I pointed out a series of major policies that the US has flip
    flopped on.

    We have this current trade war bullshit that the US started. Your leader >>> has decided that Canada and the US have been taking advantage of under
    the current North American free trade deal, the deal that Trump demanded >>> and got just 6 years ago. T

    I think we both agree that Trump is a senile, narcissistic asshole.

    Cindy, you are too generous!



    Too true. I appreciate that a lot of Americans are a little upset about
    some of Trump's recent shenanigans but I take issue with the attitude
    that it's not the US and it's not the US, that it is the actions of that
    one senile, narcissistic asshole. There is the issue of the number of
    Americans who supported him, who voted for him and continue to support
    him when he has been deranged for so long.

    I knew that Americans did not like Clinton and especially disliked
    Hillary Clinton. I thought she would have trouble winning the
    presidency, but then the Republicans chose Trump as their candidate and
    I figured they had just handed the election over to Hillary.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 10 18:17:29 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    In any case, he is happy with the desk job, and
    all of us too because within the station is
    much safer than on the street.


    “May 10th...

    Thank God for the rain, which has helped wash away the garbage and trash
    off the sidewalks...”

    - from "Something Wicked This Way Comes", by Ray Bradbury

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 10 20:21:58 2025
    On 2025-05-10, gm wrote:

    President TRUMP is a HERO, [...] The statue
    depicts Trump defiantly raising his fist

    Hero or not, only an idiot would present
    a target again to any shooter(s).


    Trump has added ornate, gold flourishes to

    stroke his pathetic ego.

    He has also lined the West Wing
    with the front pages of

    Failed newrags to use as emergency shitpaper
    for his next 'uncontained diaper failure.'

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 10 19:49:39 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote on 5/10/2025 12:37 AM:
    On 2025-05-10, Hank Rogers wrote:

    It could be worse. If our Orange ass-wipe
    has a shit hemorrhage, he might hit them
    with a complete embargo.

    That'll show those smart ass canadians!

    Please explain to this one. Would a shit
    embargo mean nobody can take a shit or
    nobody gives a shit?

    More importantly, who has to kiss the
    other guy's ring, the Pope or Trump?

    As I explained in another thread, Trump's
    own perception of his self-worth is
    growing exponentially, and the only
    mathematically reasonable projection
    is that very shortly his world-view
    will become a fusion of megalomanic
    'executive orders' and apocalyptic
    prophesy.


    It's already there. Where have you been?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 10 20:02:41 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote on 5/10/2025 3:21 PM:
    On 2025-05-10, gm wrote:

    President TRUMP is a HERO, [...] The statue
    depicts Trump defiantly raising his fist

    Hero or not, only an idiot would present
    a target again to any shooter(s).


    Trump has added ornate, gold flourishes to

    stroke his pathetic ego.

    He has also lined the West Wing
    with the front pages of

    Failed newrags to use as emergency shitpaper
    for his next 'uncontained diaper failure.'



    Relax. This will all improve once Melanoma Trump starts giving the
    Fuhrer blow jobs again.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 10 20:05:51 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote on 5/10/2025 3:51 AM:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The Trumpster >>>> is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans
    voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people
    outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted for him >>>> to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies.
    Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the
    US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until
    our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing. The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of
    Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it.
    Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they
    would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked them
    and Germany declared war. After the war they would not support France
    against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on Vietnamese
    reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they
    realized the communists would win followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them
    satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the
    targeting of the enemy forces. After about a decade Saddam was the bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him from
    Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron who
    insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but is is
    part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave. The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world. No other country bears
    any responsibility.



    Poor Officer Dave. How can you be so cruel?

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun May 11 01:06:35 2025
    On Sun, 11 May 2025 0:49:39 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    Mike Duffy wrote on 5/10/2025 12:37 AM:
    On 2025-05-10, Hank Rogers wrote:

    It could be worse. If our Orange ass-wipe
    has a shit hemorrhage, he might hit them
    with a complete embargo.

    That'll show those smart ass canadians!

    Please explain to this one. Would a shit
    embargo mean nobody can take a shit or
    nobody gives a shit?

    More importantly, who has to kiss the
    other guy's ring, the Pope or Trump?

    As I explained in another thread, Trump's
    own perception of his self-worth is
    growing exponentially, and the only
    mathematically reasonable projection
    is that very shortly his world-view
    will become a fusion of megalomanic
    'executive orders' and apocalyptic
    prophesy.


    It's already there. Where have you been?


    Instead of Jesus' Second Coming, Our Lord GOD sent us THE DONALD...!!!

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Graham on Sat May 10 20:11:09 2025
    Graham wrote on 5/10/2025 11:10 AM:
    On 2025-05-10 9:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-10 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The
    Trumpster
    is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough Americans >>>>>>> voted for him that we one the election. The vast majority of people >>>>>>> outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted
    for him
    to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies. >>>>>> Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when the >>>>> US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until >>>>> our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing.
    The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the treaty of >>>>> Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it. >>>>> Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they >>>>> would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan attacked
    them
    and Germany declared war. After the war they would not support France >>>>> against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on
    Vietnamese
    reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they >>>>> realized the communists would win followed by years and years of
    American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them >>>>> satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the >>>>> targeting of the enemy forces. After about a decade Saddam was the
    bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict him
    from
    Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the
    alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not
    exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the Moron
    who
    insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but
    is is
    part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave. The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world. No other country bears
    any responsibility.

    Really? That is your read on things.

    That is my sarcasm on things.

    The US has done some good
    things, but you guys need to get over yourselves. You are not the only
    democracy in the world and you

    Me? Cindy Hamilton?

    act as of you are the only country with
    individual rights, even as we are wondering what happened to them these
    days. I pointed out a series of major policies that the US has flip
    flopped on.

    We have this current trade war bullshit that the US started. Your leader >>> has decided that Canada and the US have been taking advantage of under
    the current North American free trade deal, the deal that Trump demanded >>> and got just 6 years ago. T

    I think we both agree that Trump is a senile, narcissistic asshole.

    Cindy, you are too generous!

    Well, she's honest. Officer dave is not and never will be.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat May 10 20:14:05 2025
    Dave Smith wrote on 5/10/2025 11:18 AM:
    On 2025-05-10 12:10 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-05-10 9:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-10, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-10 4:51 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    It's not just one deranged man. There is a pattern of it. The
    Trumpster
    is an extreme example of it. Let us not forget that enough
    Americans
    voted for him that we one the election.  The vast majority of >>>>>>>> people
    outside of the US view him as a raving lunatic. Americans voted >>>>>>>> for him
    to be their president.

    Only one deranged man is in a position to keep changing US policies. >>>>>>> Everybody else is just along for the ride.


    He is not the only one. Go back a little over a hundred years when >>>>>> the
    US had an isolationist policy and would not get involved in WWI until >>>>>> our mutual enemies menaced the US and finally did the right thing. >>>>>> The
    US, IMO had way too much influence in the formulation of the
    treaty of
    Versailles but Wilson got his way. Then the US refused to ratify it. >>>>>> Back to the isolationism as Germany rearmed and threatened again they >>>>>> would not fully support its former Allies..... until Japan
    attacked them
    and Germany declared war.  After the war they would not support
    France
    against the Vietminh. They supported a plan to have a vote on
    Vietnamese
    reunification. They were all set for a democratic vote... until they >>>>>> realized the communists would win  followed by years and years of >>>>>> American involvement before abandoning their Vietnamese allies.

    They backed Saddam Hussein when he was fighting Iran. They gave them >>>>>> satellite intelligence on Iranian positions to help them enhance the >>>>>> targeting of the enemy forces.  After about a decade Saddam was
    the bad
    guy that they allowed to invade Kuwait before going in to evict
    him from
    Kuwait. Then about a decade later invaded Iraq to rid Saddam of the >>>>>> alleged arsenal of WMDs that weapons inspectors insisted did not
    exist.

    Face it, American foreign policy is like tumble weed that changes
    direction with the wind.

    As I pointed out, it was Reagan who pushed  for NAFTA. It was
    implemented under Bush..... both Republicans. Then it was the
    Moron who
    insisted it be renegotiated, and now he doesn't like the deal he
    negotiated. Sure, he may he the one who is doing it this time, but >>>>>> is is
    part of a pattern with the US.

    Yes, you're right, Dave.  The U.S. is responsible for every shitty
    thing that ever happened in the world.  No other country bears
    any responsibility.

       Really? That is your read on things.

    That is my sarcasm on things.

    The US has done some good
    things, but you guys need to get over yourselves. You are not the only >>>> democracy in the world and you

    Me?  Cindy Hamilton?

    act as of you are the only country with
    individual rights, even as we are wondering what happened to them these >>>> days. I pointed out a series of major policies that the US has flip
    flopped on.

    We have this current trade war bullshit that the US started. Your
    leader
    has decided that Canada and the US have been taking advantage of under >>>> the current North American free trade deal, the deal that Trump
    demanded
    and got just 6 years ago. T

    I think we both agree that Trump is a senile, narcissistic asshole.

    Cindy, you are too generous!



    Too true. I appreciate that a lot of Americans are a little upset about
    some of Trump's recent shenanigans but I take issue with the attitude
    that it's not the US and it's not the US, that it is the actions of that
    one senile, narcissistic asshole. There is the issue of the number of Americans who supported him, who voted for him and continue to support
    him when he has been deranged for so long.

    I knew that Americans did not like Clinton and especially disliked
    Hillary Clinton. I thought she would have trouble winning the
    presidency, but then the Republicans chose Trump as their candidate and
    I figured they had just handed the election over to Hillary.


    Dave, you'd feel a lot better if you hauled some trash up to maralago
    and dumped it there.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sat May 10 21:58:49 2025
    On 2025-05-10 2:21 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-05-10, gm wrote:

    President TRUMP is a HERO, [...] The statue
    depicts Trump defiantly raising his fist

    Hero or not, only an idiot would present
    a target again to any shooter(s).


    Trump has added ornate, gold flourishes to

    stroke his pathetic ego.

    He has also lined the West Wing
    with the front pages of

    Failed newrags to use as emergency shitpaper
    for his next 'uncontained diaper failure.'


    It is reported that when he saw the interior of the Sistine
    Chapel, while attending the pope's funeral, he compared it
    to Mar-a-lago.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun May 11 11:35:34 2025
    Graham wrote:

    I detest ALL national anthems!


    The ONLY "national anthem" you like is that DISGUSTING commie hymn "The Internationale"...!!!

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    GM

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