• Sunday dinner

    From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 10:16:30 2025
    We had a tomahawk steak. It was a little on the small side for that cut,
    about 2.5 lb. It turned out nicely, though a little underdone for my
    wife's taste. We had some fiddleheads and a salad with blue cheese
    dressing with it.

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat to have
    the local berries.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 2 15:55:35 2025
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 14:16:30 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    We had a tomahawk steak. It was a little on the small side for that cut, about 2.5 lb. It turned out nicely, though a little underdone for my
    wife's taste. We had some fiddleheads and a salad with blue cheese
    dressing with it.

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat to have
    the local berries.


    I finished off the tomato soup I had made Friday night.
    It was a larger than usual batch, but it was very good.
    A banana was dessert.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 2 12:12:03 2025
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat to have
    the local berries.


    There are many strawberry growers in this area so local is easy to find,
    but I don't buy them except on rare occasion. They are picked to ship
    so they are not as ripe as they should be. Often, they have white tops.

    Occasionally, I will find some that are all read, not perfect but
    reasonably edible.

    Bet I used to get from the farmer's market in CT from Rachel's Berries.
    Picked that day, fully ripe, I'd be eating them on the way home. No
    sugar needed.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Jun 2 11:32:19 2025
    On 2025-06-02 10:12 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported
    berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat
    to have the local berries.


    There are many strawberry growers in this area so local is easy to find,
    but I don't buy them except on rare occasion.  They are picked to ship
    so they are not as ripe as they should be.  Often, they have white tops.

    Occasionally, I will find some that are all read, not perfect but
    reasonably edible.

    Bet I used to get from the farmer's market in CT from Rachel's Berries. Picked that day, fully ripe, I'd be eating them on the way home.  No
    sugar needed.

    The only ones worth eating are from your own garden or from "pick-your-
    own" growers.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Jun 2 14:35:41 2025
    On 6/2/2025 1:32 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 10:12 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported
    berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat
    to have the local berries.


    There are many strawberry growers in this area so local is easy to
    find, but I don't buy them except on rare occasion.  They are picked
    to ship so they are not as ripe as they should be.  Often, they have
    white tops.

    Occasionally, I will find some that are all read, not perfect but
    reasonably edible.

    Bet I used to get from the farmer's market in CT from Rachel's
    Berries. Picked that day, fully ripe, I'd be eating them on the way
    home.  No sugar needed.

    The only ones worth eating are from your own garden or from "pick-your-
    own" growers.

    Problem is, the way they grow them is not very considerate. They are
    down on the ground. If the plants were on waist high benches, I'd go
    picking.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Jun 2 14:17:58 2025
    On 2025-06-02 12:12 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported
    berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat
    to have the local berries.


    There are many strawberry growers in this area so local is easy to find,
    but I don't buy them except on rare occasion.  They are picked to ship
    so they are not as ripe as they should be.  Often, they have white tops.

    Occasionally, I will find some that are all read, not perfect but
    reasonably edible.

    Bet I used to get from the farmer's market in CT from Rachel's Berries. Picked that day, fully ripe, I'd be eating them on the way home.  No
    sugar needed

    There are a lot of strawberries grown locally, but more below the
    escarpment than up here on top of it. There is a pick your own berry
    farm around the corner from us. I should go there more often but I
    really hate picking berries. I should talk to a friend at the dog park
    whose parents own the farm behind us. It used to be a pick your own
    place before they owned it. The son keeps telling us to help ourselves
    but I would rather here that from his parents.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Jun 2 14:38:13 2025
    On 2025-06-02 1:32 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 10:12 a.m., Ed P wrote:

    Occasionally, I will find some that are all read, not perfect but
    reasonably edible.

    Bet I used to get from the farmer's market in CT from Rachel's
    Berries. Picked that day, fully ripe, I'd be eating them on the way
    home.  No sugar needed.

    The only ones worth eating are from your own garden or from "pick-your-
    own" growers.

    That might depend on where you live. I live in a fruit belt and, in
    addition to the small market garden operations there are several berry
    farms. One is around the corner from me and there is another about three
    miles from here. I have been at those places in time to see the berries
    coming in directly from the fields.

    Some products deteriorate quickly. Strawberries are best eaten process
    ASAP after picking. Sour cherries are extremely perishable. For a
    number of years we had a small cherry orchard across the street from us.
    The owners semi tended it but never seemed to be around to harvest. We
    had a tradition of the annual stolen cherry pie. I used to come home
    from work, make a batch of pie dough and put it in the fridge to cool.
    Then I scooted across the street with basket to pick enough cherries for
    a pie. Given the picking time and the pitting time, it was about 20
    minutes from the time the cherries were picked until they went into the
    oven. It was always the best pie of the year. We were sorry to see the
    cherry trees taken out and replaced with Christmas trees.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 2 16:49:23 2025
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    We had a tomahawk steak. It was a little on the small side for that cut, about 2.5 lb.  It turned out nicely, though a little underdone for my
    wife's taste. We had some fiddleheads and a salad with blue cheese
    dressing with it.

    I sure do wish I could find fiddleheads! They don't grow this far
    south. Allegedly they are available frozen but I've sure never seen
    them in a freezer case.

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Jun 2 16:52:44 2025
    On 6/2/2025 1:32 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 10:12 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported
    berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat
    to have the local berries.


    There are many strawberry growers in this area so local is easy to
    find, but I don't buy them except on rare occasion.  They are picked
    to ship so they are not as ripe as they should be.  Often, they have
    white tops.

    Occasionally, I will find some that are all read, not perfect but
    reasonably edible.

    Bet I used to get from the farmer's market in CT from Rachel's
    Berries. Picked that day, fully ripe, I'd be eating them on the way
    home.  No sugar needed.

    The only ones worth eating are from your own garden or from "pick-your-
    own" growers.

    I see signs for fresh local strawberries at a nearby produce stand.
    Frankly, I do not like the taste of strawberries.

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Tue Jun 3 07:05:57 2025
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 16:52:44 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 6/2/2025 1:32 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 10:12 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported
    berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat
    to have the local berries.


    There are many strawberry growers in this area so local is easy to
    find, but I don't buy them except on rare occasion.  They are picked
    to ship so they are not as ripe as they should be.  Often, they have
    white tops.

    Occasionally, I will find some that are all read, not perfect but
    reasonably edible.

    Bet I used to get from the farmer's market in CT from Rachel's
    Berries. Picked that day, fully ripe, I'd be eating them on the way
    home.  No sugar needed.

    The only ones worth eating are from your own garden or from "pick-your-
    own" growers.

    I see signs for fresh local strawberries at a nearby produce stand.
    Frankly, I do not like the taste of strawberries.

    <https://treenawynes.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/angry-nun-300x200.jpg>

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Mon Jun 2 17:47:51 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote on 6/2/2025 3:49 PM:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    We had a tomahawk steak. It was a little on the small side for that
    cut, about 2.5 lb.  It turned out nicely, though a little underdone
    for my wife's taste. We had some fiddleheads and a salad with blue
    cheese dressing with it.

    I sure do wish I could find fiddleheads!  They don't grow this far
    south.  Allegedly they are available frozen but I've sure never seen
    them in a freezer case.

    Jill

    Has your Majesty tried any of the fancier grocers like whole foods?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jun 2 17:49:34 2025
    Bruce wrote on 6/2/2025 4:05 PM:
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 16:52:44 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 6/2/2025 1:32 PM, Graham wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 10:12 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported
    berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat >>>>> to have the local berries.


    There are many strawberry growers in this area so local is easy to
    find, but I don't buy them except on rare occasion.  They are picked
    to ship so they are not as ripe as they should be.  Often, they have
    white tops.

    Occasionally, I will find some that are all read, not perfect but
    reasonably edible.

    Bet I used to get from the farmer's market in CT from Rachel's
    Berries. Picked that day, fully ripe, I'd be eating them on the way
    home.  No sugar needed.

    The only ones worth eating are from your own garden or from "pick-your-
    own" growers.

    I see signs for fresh local strawberries at a nearby produce stand.
    Frankly, I do not like the taste of strawberries.

    <https://treenawynes.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/angry-nun-300x200.jpg>


    Sometimes her Majesty sounds a lot like Julie the bovine.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Mon Jun 2 18:59:18 2025
    On 2025-06-02 4:49 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    We had a tomahawk steak. It was a little on the small side for that
    cut, about 2.5 lb.  It turned out nicely, though a little underdone
    for my wife's taste. We had some fiddleheads and a salad with blue
    cheese dressing with it.

    I sure do wish I could find fiddleheads!  They don't grow this far
    south.  Allegedly they are available frozen but I've sure never seen
    them in a freezer case.

    They are a little more common here now than they used to be. My wife had
    told me there is a fiddlehead farm in Port Colborne. I did an online
    search and found that this is the only fiddlehead farm in North America.
    Well, according to an 18 year old news article, it was the only one.
    They used to be picked in the wild in New Brunswick. They were seldom
    available and were expensive. This week's batch was quite cheap... for fiddleheads.


    I used to have issues with the price. IMO, they had a taste similar to asparagus. They are available at the same time. It was hard to spend a
    lot more for fiddleheads when I would get the flavour fix from asparagus
    for a fraction of the price. I usually opted for the much cheaper asparagus.

    I don't recall ever seeing frozen fiddleheads. They have always been a
    seasonal thing for us.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 2 20:34:03 2025
    On 6/2/2025 6:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 4:49 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    We had a tomahawk steak. It was a little on the small side for that
    cut, about 2.5 lb.  It turned out nicely, though a little underdone
    for my wife's taste. We had some fiddleheads and a salad with blue
    cheese dressing with it.

    I sure do wish I could find fiddleheads!  They don't grow this far
    south.  Allegedly they are available frozen but I've sure never seen
    them in a freezer case.

    They are a little more common here now than they used to be. My wife had
    told me there is a fiddlehead farm in Port Colborne. I did an online
    search and found that this is the only fiddlehead farm in North America. Well, according to an 18 year old news article, it was the only one.
    They used to be picked in the wild in New Brunswick. They were seldom available and were expensive.  This week's batch was quite cheap... for fiddleheads.

    Many years ago there was a poster to this ng (Kendall Stratton) who
    lived in Maine. He picked and sent some resh fiddleheads to me in TN.
    It was a comedy of errors because it was shipped in a container with dry
    ice. I came home from work to find a note on the door with a notice
    saying I wasn't home so it had been returned to the Post Office. I took
    the note off the door and drove to the Post Office. I understand you
    have my package? Oh! They had put it back on the truck and it's back
    out for delivery. I drove home. It wasn't there. Another note about a delivery attempt on the door. I called. Oh, well they brought it back
    here because you weren't home. DUH, I was just there! Back and forth
    like that. Finally, stay there, they are on the way. I finally did get
    them. Fresh fiddleheads, still cold. They were delicious!>
    I don't recall ever seeing frozen fiddleheads. They have always been a seasonal thing for us.

    They definitely are seasonal and regional. But yes, I have heard of
    them being sold frozen. They aren't something I can find.

    Jill

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Mon Jun 2 20:25:40 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote on 6/2/2025 7:34 PM:
    On 6/2/2025 6:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 4:49 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 6/2/2025 10:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    We had a tomahawk steak. It was a little on the small side for that
    cut, about 2.5 lb.  It turned out nicely, though a little underdone
    for my wife's taste. We had some fiddleheads and a salad with blue
    cheese dressing with it.

    I sure do wish I could find fiddleheads!  They don't grow this far
    south.  Allegedly they are available frozen but I've sure never seen
    them in a freezer case.

    They are a little more common here now than they used to be. My wife
    had told me there is a fiddlehead farm in Port Colborne. I did an
    online search and found that this is the only fiddlehead farm in North
    America. Well, according to an 18 year old news article, it was the
    only one. They used to be picked in the wild in New Brunswick. They
    were seldom available and were expensive.  This week's batch was
    quite cheap... for fiddleheads.

    Many years ago there was a poster to this ng (Kendall Stratton) who
    lived in Maine.  He picked and sent some resh fiddleheads to me in TN.
    It was a comedy of errors because it was shipped in a container with dry
    ice. I came home from work to find a note on the door with a notice
    saying I wasn't home so it had been returned to the Post Office.  I took
    the note off the door and drove to the Post Office.  I understand you
    have my package?  Oh!  They had put it back on the truck and it's back
    out for delivery.  I drove home.  It wasn't there.  Another note about a delivery attempt on the door. I called.  Oh, well they brought it back
    here because you weren't home.  DUH, I was just there!  Back and forth
    like that.  Finally, stay there, they are on the way.  I finally did get them.  Fresh fiddleheads, still cold.  They were delicious!>
    I don't recall ever seeing frozen fiddleheads.

    Those crabs your majesty just described were FROZEN, if they were packed
    in dry ice. Dry ice has a temperature of about -110 degrees F.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Tue Jun 3 11:58:20 2025
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 20:34:03 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    Many years ago there was a poster to this ng (Kendall Stratton) who
    lived in Maine. He picked and sent some resh fiddleheads to me in TN.
    It was a comedy of errors because it was shipped in a container with dry
    ice. I came home from work to find a note on the door with a notice
    saying I wasn't home so it had been returned to the Post Office. I took
    the note off the door and drove to the Post Office. I understand you
    have my package? Oh! They had put it back on the truck and it's back
    out for delivery. I drove home. It wasn't there. Another note about a >delivery attempt on the door. I called. Oh, well they brought it back
    here because you weren't home. DUH, I was just there! Back and forth
    like that. Finally, stay there, they are on the way. I finally did get >them. Fresh fiddleheads, still cold. They were delicious!>
    I don't recall ever seeing frozen fiddleheads. They have always been a
    seasonal thing for us.

    They definitely are seasonal and regional. But yes, I have heard of
    them being sold frozen. They aren't something I can find.

    Fiddlehead sounds like something you develop when you eat too many
    hamburgers.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Jun 3 02:03:33 2025
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 22:59:18 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    They are a little more common here now than they used to be. My wife had
    told me there is a fiddlehead farm in Port Colborne. I did an online
    search and found that this is the only fiddlehead farm in North America. Well, according to an 18 year old news article, it was the only one.
    They used to be picked in the wild in New Brunswick. They were seldom available and were expensive. This week's batch was quite cheap... for fiddleheads.


    I used to have issues with the price. IMO, they had a taste similar to asparagus. They are available at the same time. It was hard to spend a
    lot more for fiddleheads when I would get the flavour fix from asparagus
    for a fraction of the price. I usually opted for the much cheaper
    asparagus.

    I don't recall ever seeing frozen fiddleheads. They have always been a seasonal thing for us.

    Those ferns don't have much taste but if I see those at the farmer's
    market, I'll get some. The ones here are mostly foraged in the Forrest.
    They are quite delicate things.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/YdNJpLAck6QJWLcB7

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 2 22:45:54 2025
    On 2025-06-02 10:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 22:59:18 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    I don't recall ever seeing frozen fiddleheads. They have always been a
    seasonal thing for us.

    Those ferns don't have much taste but if I see those at the farmer's
    market, I'll get some. The ones here are mostly foraged in the Forrest.
    They are quite delicate things.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/YdNJpLAck6QJWLcB7

    Wait a sec. Are you talking about mature ferns or the fiddleheads? There
    are a lot of different ferns and not all of them are good. Not all of
    them are edible. It is usually the oyster ferns that are harvested in
    most places. It is a very short season. And.... they have flavour.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Tue Jun 3 08:25:00 2025
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 2:45:54 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-02 10:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 22:59:18 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    I don't recall ever seeing frozen fiddleheads. They have always been a
    seasonal thing for us.

    Those ferns don't have much taste but if I see those at the farmer's
    market, I'll get some. The ones here are mostly foraged in the Forrest.
    They are quite delicate things.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/YdNJpLAck6QJWLcB7

    Wait a sec. Are you talking about mature ferns or the fiddleheads? There
    are a lot of different ferns and not all of them are good. Not all of
    them are edible. It is usually the oyster ferns that are harvested in
    most places. It is a very short season. And.... they have flavour.

    These are wild Hawaiian fern shoots called pohole. They are quite
    delicate and blanched in water for only 1-2 minutes. The mainland
    fiddleheads require longer cooking times.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJzdiYFD2M

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 3 09:41:21 2025
    On 2025-06-03 4:25 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 2:45:54 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    Wait a sec. Are you talking about mature ferns or the fiddleheads? There
    are a lot of different ferns and not all of them are good. Not all of
    them are edible. It is usually the oyster ferns that are harvested in
    most places. It is a very short season.  And.... they have flavour.

    These are wild Hawaiian fern shoots called pohole. They are quite
    delicate and blanched in water for only 1-2 minutes. The mainland
    fiddleheads require longer cooking times.



    Indeed. The oyster fiddleheads do take a lot longer to cook than most
    green vegetables.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJzdiYFD2M

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Wed Jun 4 00:59:22 2025
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 13:41:21 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-03 4:25 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 2:45:54 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    Wait a sec. Are you talking about mature ferns or the fiddleheads? There >>> are a lot of different ferns and not all of them are good. Not all of
    them are edible. It is usually the oyster ferns that are harvested in
    most places. It is a very short season.  And.... they have flavour.

    These are wild Hawaiian fern shoots called pohole. They are quite
    delicate and blanched in water for only 1-2 minutes. The mainland
    fiddleheads require longer cooking times.



    Indeed. The oyster fiddleheads do take a lot longer to cook than most
    green vegetables.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJzdiYFD2M

    I don't use the name "fiddlehead" since they don't resemble the mainland counterpart at all. It's a whole nother plant.

    Breakfast this morning was loco moco. Theoretically, one should be able
    to make loco moco in most places on Earth. It's likely that most
    non-Hawaiians would make it with long grain rice. That would be
    incorrect.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/yT4fJfevkb3FMyBs6

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 3 20:11:03 2025
    dsi1 wrote on 6/3/2025 7:59 PM:
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 13:41:21 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-03 4:25 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 2:45:54 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    Wait a sec. Are you talking about mature ferns or the fiddleheads?
    There
    are a lot of different ferns and not all of them are good. Not all of
    them are edible. It is usually the oyster ferns that are harvested in
    most places. It is a very short season.  And.... they have flavour.

    These are wild Hawaiian fern shoots called pohole. They are quite
    delicate and blanched in water for only 1-2 minutes. The mainland
    fiddleheads require longer cooking times.



    Indeed. The oyster fiddleheads do take a lot longer to cook than most
    green vegetables.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJzdiYFD2M

    I don't use the name "fiddlehead" since they don't resemble the mainland counterpart at all. It's a whole nother plant.

    Breakfast this morning was loco moco. Theoretically, one should be able
    to make loco moco in most places on Earth. It's likely that most non-Hawaiians would make it with long grain rice. That would be
    incorrect.

    Only da hawaiians make proper loco moco Uncle. Everyone knows dat.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jun 6 17:20:44 2025
    On 6/2/2025 10:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-02 10:03 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 22:59:18 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    I don't recall ever seeing frozen fiddleheads. They have always been a
    seasonal thing for us.

    Those ferns don't have much taste but if I see those at the farmer's
    market, I'll get some. The ones here are mostly foraged in the Forrest.
    They are quite delicate things.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/YdNJpLAck6QJWLcB7

    Wait a sec. Are you talking about mature ferns or the fiddleheads? There
    are a lot of different ferns and not all of them are good. Not all of
    them are edible. It is usually the oyster ferns that are harvested in
    most places. It is a very short season.  And.... they have flavour.


    That photo shows a bunch of green stems. Those are *not* the
    fiddleheads that are harvested the eastern part of North America.

    Jill

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jun 6 22:20:46 2025
    On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 14:16:30 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    We had a tomahawk steak. It was a little on the small side for that cut, about 2.5 lb. It turned out nicely, though a little underdone for my
    wife's taste. We had some fiddleheads and a salad with blue cheese
    dressing with it.

    For dessert we had fresh local strawberries. We can get imported berries throughout most of the year, but it is always a special treat to have
    the local berries.

    Those steaks are pretty awesome!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOXWC_5xXJA

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 19:29:24 2025
    We had a pork tenderloin. Around noon I stripped off the connective
    tissues and prepared a marinade. It was one part lime juice to two parts
    olive oil, some low sodium soy sauce, pepper, cumin, Dijon mustard,
    chipotle powder, chili powder, a couple cloves of garlic crushed and
    about an inch of ginger root grated. My wife did the cooking on the
    gas BBQ. She grilled it 2 minutes on each side over direct heat and then
    turned off the burner underneath and did it for another 8 minutes
    offset. It was perfectly cooked and the taste was great.

    We had some air fryer roasted potatoes, asparagus and a salad with it.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 23 00:41:47 2025
    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 23:29:24 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    We had a pork tenderloin. Around noon I stripped off the connective
    tissues and prepared a marinade. It was one part lime juice to two parts olive oil, some low sodium soy sauce, pepper, cumin, Dijon mustard,
    chipotle powder, chili powder, a couple cloves of garlic crushed and
    about an inch of ginger root grated. My wife did the cooking on the
    gas BBQ. She grilled it 2 minutes on each side over direct heat and then turned off the burner underneath and did it for another 8 minutes
    offset. It was perfectly cooked and the taste was great.

    We had some air fryer roasted potatoes, asparagus and a salad with it.

    I made some pancakes with blueberry and lingonberry jam. My daughter
    made the blueberry jam, the lingonberry jam was from IKEA. I love the
    smell of pancakes in the morning, smells like... breakfast.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/wxRtJg1A3Na8uhx39

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Mon Jun 23 11:50:33 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 00:41:47 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 23:29:24 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    We had a pork tenderloin. Around noon I stripped off the connective
    tissues and prepared a marinade. It was one part lime juice to two parts
    olive oil, some low sodium soy sauce, pepper, cumin, Dijon mustard,
    chipotle powder, chili powder, a couple cloves of garlic crushed and
    about an inch of ginger root grated. My wife did the cooking on the
    gas BBQ. She grilled it 2 minutes on each side over direct heat and then
    turned off the burner underneath and did it for another 8 minutes
    offset. It was perfectly cooked and the taste was great.

    We had some air fryer roasted potatoes, asparagus and a salad with it.

    I made some pancakes with blueberry and lingonberry jam. My daughter
    made the blueberry jam, the lingonberry jam was from IKEA. I love the
    smell of pancakes in the morning, smells like... breakfast.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/wxRtJg1A3Na8uhx39

    Looks good.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 23 03:07:32 2025
    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 23:29:24 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    We had a pork tenderloin. Around noon I stripped off the connective
    tissues and prepared a marinade. It was one part lime juice to two parts olive oil, some low sodium soy sauce, pepper, cumin, Dijon mustard,
    chipotle powder, chili powder, a couple cloves of garlic crushed and
    about an inch of ginger root grated. My wife did the cooking on the
    gas BBQ. She grilled it 2 minutes on each side over direct heat and then turned off the burner underneath and did it for another 8 minutes
    offset. It was perfectly cooked and the taste was great.

    We had some air fryer roasted potatoes, asparagus and a salad with it.


    It was beef roast and gravy over quartered, steamed, and
    seasoned potatoes here. A glass of milk, too.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Tue Jun 24 06:14:09 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:13:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 1:50:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Looks good.

    Breakfast this morning was biscuits and berries. My daughter made the >biscuits. They were better than my biscuits. Mostly, they tasted of
    butter.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2XtYvFcBA4af3Yxt9

    Is that a similar recipe to this? <https://www.inspiredtaste.net/47394/drop-biscuits/>

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jun 23 19:13:28 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 1:50:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Looks good.

    Breakfast this morning was biscuits and berries. My daughter made the
    biscuits. They were better than my biscuits. Mostly, they tasted of
    butter.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2XtYvFcBA4af3Yxt9

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jun 23 20:31:16 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:14:09 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:13:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 1:50:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Looks good.

    Breakfast this morning was biscuits and berries. My daughter made the >>biscuits. They were better than my biscuits. Mostly, they tasted of
    butter.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2XtYvFcBA4af3Yxt9

    Is that a similar recipe to this? <https://www.inspiredtaste.net/47394/drop-biscuits/>

    Could be - I don't know. I never see her making stuff, I only see the
    finished product. I could tell that there was a good amount of sugar in
    those biscuits - as well as salt. It was a good mix of sweet and salty.

    I did see her washing rice the other day. "Did you know that white
    people don't wash rice before cooking it?" I inquired. She said she knew
    that. "Did you know that white people aren't aware that Asians wash
    rice?" She knew that too. She knows about different cultures - that's a
    good thing. Actually, I should watch her cook rice. Her rice comes out
    better than mine.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Tue Jun 24 06:45:25 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:31:16 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:14:09 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:13:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 1:50:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Looks good.

    Breakfast this morning was biscuits and berries. My daughter made the >>>biscuits. They were better than my biscuits. Mostly, they tasted of >>>butter.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2XtYvFcBA4af3Yxt9

    Is that a similar recipe to this?
    <https://www.inspiredtaste.net/47394/drop-biscuits/>

    Could be - I don't know. I never see her making stuff, I only see the >finished product. I could tell that there was a good amount of sugar in
    those biscuits - as well as salt. It was a good mix of sweet and salty.

    I did see her washing rice the other day. "Did you know that white
    people don't wash rice before cooking it?" I inquired. She said she knew >that. "Did you know that white people aren't aware that Asians wash
    rice?" She knew that too. She knows about different cultures - that's a
    good thing. Actually, I should watch her cook rice. Her rice comes out
    better than mine.

    But does she also know that all 5 billion Asians wash rice? And that
    all 900 million whites don't?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jun 23 21:15:40 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:45:25 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:31:16 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:14:09 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:13:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 1:50:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Looks good.

    Breakfast this morning was biscuits and berries. My daughter made the >>>>biscuits. They were better than my biscuits. Mostly, they tasted of >>>>butter.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2XtYvFcBA4af3Yxt9

    Is that a similar recipe to this?
    <https://www.inspiredtaste.net/47394/drop-biscuits/>

    Could be - I don't know. I never see her making stuff, I only see the >>finished product. I could tell that there was a good amount of sugar in >>those biscuits - as well as salt. It was a good mix of sweet and salty.

    I did see her washing rice the other day. "Did you know that white
    people don't wash rice before cooking it?" I inquired. She said she knew >>that. "Did you know that white people aren't aware that Asians wash
    rice?" She knew that too. She knows about different cultures - that's a >>good thing. Actually, I should watch her cook rice. Her rice comes out >>better than mine.

    But does she also know that all 5 billion Asians wash rice? And that
    all 900 million whites don't?

    Of course she knows that's not true at all. I know that's not true. I'm
    not so sure about you though.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jun 23 16:42:33 2025
    Bruce wrote on 6/23/2025 3:45 PM:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:31:16 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:14:09 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:13:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 1:50:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Looks good.

    Breakfast this morning was biscuits and berries. My daughter made the
    biscuits. They were better than my biscuits. Mostly, they tasted of
    butter.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2XtYvFcBA4af3Yxt9

    Is that a similar recipe to this?
    <https://www.inspiredtaste.net/47394/drop-biscuits/>

    Could be - I don't know. I never see her making stuff, I only see the
    finished product. I could tell that there was a good amount of sugar in
    those biscuits - as well as salt. It was a good mix of sweet and salty.

    I did see her washing rice the other day. "Did you know that white
    people don't wash rice before cooking it?" I inquired. She said she knew
    that. "Did you know that white people aren't aware that Asians wash
    rice?" She knew that too. She knows about different cultures - that's a
    good thing. Actually, I should watch her cook rice. Her rice comes out
    better than mine.

    But does she also know that all 5 billion Asians wash rice? And that
    all 900 million whites don't?


    Of course! After all, she's hiwaiian, right?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Tue Jun 24 08:08:15 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 21:15:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:45:25 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:31:16 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:14:09 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:13:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 1:50:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Looks good.

    Breakfast this morning was biscuits and berries. My daughter made the >>>>>biscuits. They were better than my biscuits. Mostly, they tasted of >>>>>butter.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2XtYvFcBA4af3Yxt9

    Is that a similar recipe to this?
    <https://www.inspiredtaste.net/47394/drop-biscuits/>

    Could be - I don't know. I never see her making stuff, I only see the >>>finished product. I could tell that there was a good amount of sugar in >>>those biscuits - as well as salt. It was a good mix of sweet and salty.

    I did see her washing rice the other day. "Did you know that white
    people don't wash rice before cooking it?" I inquired. She said she knew >>>that. "Did you know that white people aren't aware that Asians wash >>>rice?" She knew that too. She knows about different cultures - that's a >>>good thing. Actually, I should watch her cook rice. Her rice comes out >>>better than mine.

    But does she also know that all 5 billion Asians wash rice? And that
    all 900 million whites don't?

    Of course she knows that's not true at all. I know that's not true. I'm
    not so sure about you though.

    :)

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 23 19:59:37 2025
    On 6/23/2025 5:15 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    I did see her washing rice the other day. "Did you know that white
    people don't wash rice before cooking it?" I inquired. She said she knew >>> that. "Did you know that white people aren't aware that Asians wash
    rice?" She knew that too. She knows about different cultures - that's a
    good thing. Actually, I should watch her cook rice. Her rice comes out
    better than mine.

    But does she also know that all 5 billion Asians wash rice? And that
    all 900 million whites don't?

    Of course she knows that's not true at all. I know that's not true. I'm
    not so sure about you though.

    I washed rice once. Won't to it again. What a mess. I did use some
    fabric softener but it still got all over the other clothes in the
    washing machine and I lost some down the drain on the rinse cycle.

    I still find some in my shirt pockets at times.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 14:25:40 2025
    In article <7f27c99943d9278a4526f8797d8ad278
    @www.novabbs.org>, dsi100@yahoo.com says...

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:14:09 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:13:28 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 1:50:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Looks good.

    Breakfast this morning was biscuits and berries. My daughter made the >>biscuits. They were better than my biscuits. Mostly, they tasted of >>butter.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/2XtYvFcBA4af3Yxt9

    Is that a similar recipe to this? <https://www.inspiredtaste.net/47394/drop-biscuits/>

    Could be - I don't know. I never see her making stuff, I only see the finished product. I could tell that there was a good amount of sugar in
    those biscuits - as well as salt. It was a good mix of sweet and salty.

    I did see her washing rice the other day. "Did you know that white
    people don't wash rice before cooking it?" I inquired. She said she knew that. "Did you know that white people aren't aware that Asians wash
    rice?" She knew that too.

    she must be an intellectual giant.

    Janet UK

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 12:20:30 2025
    On 6/23/2025 4:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    I did see her washing rice the other day. "Did you know that white
    people don't wash rice before cooking it?" I inquired. She said she knew that. "Did you know that white people aren't aware that Asians wash
    rice?" She knew that too. She knows about different cultures - that's a
    good thing. Actually, I should watch her cook rice. Her rice comes out
    better than mine.

    Uncle Roger taught me to wash the rice first. Use your knuckle to
    measure water. Thanks, YouTube.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Thu Jun 26 00:00:55 2025
    On 2025-06-23, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

    It was beef roast and gravy over quartered, steamed, and
    seasoned potatoes here. A glass of milk, too.


    Yesterday (24th), I made a beef stew. I thought to myself, what if Joan
    shows up for dinner? So I threw in some Brussels sprouts. ;)
    What? They were Mustgovian!

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