It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

15 oz. can red kidney beans
15 oz. can garbanzo beans
15 oz. can navy beans
15 oz. can black beans
1 c. frozen cut green beans
4 cups beef broth
12 oz. beer (if omitting, adjust the broth accordingly)
5 tsp. chili powder
1-1/2 tsp. dried basil
1/2 tsp. dried oregano or marjoram
1 small onion, chopped
Hot sauce to taste
1/4 c. pearled barley
Shredded cheddar cheese for garnish

Drain and rinse the canned beans. Place in a deep pot and add the
frozen green beans. (The reason for frozen green beans is they aren't
already cooked to very soft via the canning process so they hold up
better in this soup.)

Stir in the broth, beer if using, and remaining seasonings (*not the
barley* yet). Cover and simmer on low heat for an hour or two to let
the seasonings meld. Keep an eye on the liquid and the heat; you don't
want it too soupy but don't let it cook away; add some broth if needed.
Stir in the pearled barley, cover and simmer another 30 minutes until it
is tender and the soup has thickened.

Jill

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Jill McQuown wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

15 oz. can red kidney beans
15 oz. can garbanzo beans
15 oz. can navy beans
15 oz. can black beans
1 c. frozen cut green beans
4 cups beef broth
12 oz. beer (if omitting, adjust the broth accordingly)
5 tsp. chili powder
1-1/2 tsp. dried basil
1/2 tsp. dried oregano or marjoram
1 small onion, chopped
Hot sauce to taste
1/4 c. pearled barley
Shredded cheddar cheese for garnish

Drain and rinse the canned beans. Place in a deep pot and add the
frozen green beans. (The reason for frozen green beans is they aren't
already cooked to very soft via the canning process so they hold up
better in this soup.)

Stir in the broth, beer if using, and remaining seasonings (*not the
barley* yet). Cover and simmer on low heat for an hour or two to let
the seasonings meld. Keep an eye on the liquid and the heat; you don't
want it too soupy but don't let it cook away; add some broth if needed.
Stir in the pearled barley, cover and simmer another 30 minutes until it
is tender and the soup has thickened.

Jill

Another one of Jill's BORING and BLAND "sick room" recipes...

Is this what she used to make for her mother...???

If so, no wonder the poor old dear wasted away from depression...!!!

OR does this simply reflect Jill's oh - so - conventional "white girl" palate...???


Recipes from the Victorian Sick Room

https://pamlecky.com/2016/10/12/recipes-from-the-victorian-sick-room/

"Anyone reading Regency or Victorian novels will be all too well aware
of the obsession with remedies for invalids that were handed down
arsenicfrom generation to generation. Some may have worked (most were at
least nutritious) and we cannot really blame them for quacking
themselves when terrible diseases lurked in their homes and haunted
their nightmares. With medical hindsight we can, of course, laugh at
some of their ‘cures’ but huge reliance was placed on traditional
recipes. Many books were written on the subject and newspapers were full
of advertisements for all sorts of medicines and remedies (often lethal
ones at that)...

My well-thumbed edition of Beeton’s Book of Household Management from
1859 is always a delight to peruse. There was no area that she feared to
give advice on and there is an entire chapter on recipes for invalids.
Here are a few of the more well-known ones you may have come across and
always wanted to know how to make:

Barley Gruel

Beef Tea

Calf’s Foot Broth..."

;-D

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On 2025-06-08, gm <gregorymorrow@msn.com> wrote:

Jill McQuown wrote:

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

[...]

Another one of Jill's BORING and BLAND "sick room" recipes...

6-8 months ago i added beans to my near daily diet in the form
of refried bean burritos.

recipe is this:

1 lb whatever dried beans i want for the next batch
2 med red onion diced
5 cloves garlic minced
2 tsp kosher salt


hydrate beans by soaking at least overnight. cook beans, salt
added to cook water. caramelize onion in a bit of oil until it's
quite dark. add garlic and fry a few more minutes. add beans and
some reserved cook water. mash with a hand masher and add more
water until desired consistency.

all i add when i'm rolling up a burrito as about a teaspoon of
Tapatio hot sauce. i have one for breakfast at work every
morning. this batch is canary beans. a 1 lb bag of beans make
enough refried beans to last three weeks, 15 burritos.

kinda' bland, eh? if you enjoy something, why would anyone give
a fuck how it's made?

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On 2025-06-08, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

15 oz. can red kidney beans
15 oz. can garbanzo beans
15 oz. can navy beans
15 oz. can black beans
1 c. frozen cut green beans
4 cups beef broth
12 oz. beer (if omitting, adjust the broth accordingly)
5 tsp. chili powder
1-1/2 tsp. dried basil
1/2 tsp. dried oregano or marjoram
1 small onion, chopped
Hot sauce to taste
1/4 c. pearled barley
Shredded cheddar cheese for garnish

Drain and rinse the canned beans. Place in a deep pot and add the
frozen green beans. (The reason for frozen green beans is they aren't
already cooked to very soft via the canning process so they hold up
better in this soup.)

Stir in the broth, beer if using, and remaining seasonings (*not the
barley* yet). Cover and simmer on low heat for an hour or two to let
the seasonings meld. Keep an eye on the liquid and the heat; you don't
want it too soupy but don't let it cook away; add some broth if needed.
Stir in the pearled barley, cover and simmer another 30 minutes until it
is tender and the soup has thickened.

i like recipes like this for cooking over open fire in trusty
old iron hanging from a cooking tripod. simple. minimal prep
work. satisfying.

thanks for sharing. :)



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On 6/10/2025 9:46 AM, flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-08, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

15 oz. can red kidney beans
15 oz. can garbanzo beans
15 oz. can navy beans
15 oz. can black beans
1 c. frozen cut green beans
4 cups beef broth
12 oz. beer (if omitting, adjust the broth accordingly)
5 tsp. chili powder
1-1/2 tsp. dried basil
1/2 tsp. dried oregano or marjoram
1 small onion, chopped
Hot sauce to taste
1/4 c. pearled barley
Shredded cheddar cheese for garnish

Drain and rinse the canned beans. Place in a deep pot and add the
frozen green beans. (The reason for frozen green beans is they aren't
already cooked to very soft via the canning process so they hold up
better in this soup.)

Stir in the broth, beer if using, and remaining seasonings (*not the
barley* yet). Cover and simmer on low heat for an hour or two to let
the seasonings meld. Keep an eye on the liquid and the heat; you don't
want it too soupy but don't let it cook away; add some broth if needed.
Stir in the pearled barley, cover and simmer another 30 minutes until it
is tender and the soup has thickened.

i like recipes like this for cooking over open fire in trusty
old iron hanging from a cooking tripod. simple. minimal prep
work. satisfying.

thanks for sharing. :)

You're welcome! I don't have a wood burning fireplace nor a tripod for
cooking over one; it's too darn hot for the fireplace even if I did.
And it's too rainy in South Carolina to be cooking on a grill outdoors.
I have made this soup on a charcoal grill in a covered cast iron pot in
years past. That was during a week-long power outage when I lived in
west Tennessee. It works. :)

Jill

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On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 23:39:53 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

On 6/8/2025 4:13 PM, gm wrote:

Another one of Jill's BORING and BLAND "sick room" recipes...

[snip]

She is competing with your fag hag, Joan, to be the shittiest cook here.
It's an uphill battle.

That's rich coming from Buffoon Bryan who reports on
John Kuthe's court cases while claiming he hates him
and wishes him dead. Does Betsey Crocker known you
and John have this 'thing' for each other?

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On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 21:13:52 +0000, gm wrote:

Jill McQuown wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

Jill

Another one of Jill's BORING and BLAND "sick room" recipes...

GM

I don't know what your beef is with this recipe.
It's very much like the 7 and 15 bean soup mix
that can be bought at a grocery store. She adds
spices to hers and the grocery store versions
have a seasoning packet. Either one can be
dressed up or dressed down according to your
preference. I always add cubed ham to mine to
make it a main course dish.

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flood of sins wrote:
...

hydrate beans by soaking at least overnight. cook beans, salt
added to cook water.

next time hold off on the salt until after they are cooked.
since you are processing them anyways you might not notice a
difference in flavor or texture, but i'd be interested if you
do notice a difference or not. :)


...

kinda' bland, eh? if you enjoy something, why would anyone give
a fuck how it's made?

well, sometimes people do things out of habit and if they're
not really necessary then...

i would happen to like bean burritoes without making them
into refried bean paste. we cook the beans and then drain
and pack them in jars to freeze. anytime after that when we
want beans in something they are available with a bit of
forethought to thaw them out (for some things it doesn't
matter as they can thaw out when the other thing is cooking
and if i'm in a hurry the microwave will thaw them out).

i do like refried beans, but i like whole cooked beans in
a burrito even more (the onions, etc. could be cooked in a
larger batch and put in a jar in the fridge and used when
needed).


songbird

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songbird wrote on 6/10/2025 7:20 PM:

flood of sins wrote:
...

hydrate beans by soaking at least overnight. cook beans, salt
added to cook water.

next time hold off on the salt until after they are cooked.
since you are processing them anyways you might not notice a
difference in flavor or texture, but i'd be interested if you
do notice a difference or not. :)

...

kinda' bland, eh? if you enjoy something, why would anyone give
a fuck how it's made?

well, sometimes people do things out of habit and if they're
not really necessary then...

i would happen to like bean burritoes without making them
into refried bean paste. we cook the beans and then drain
and pack them in jars to freeze. anytime after that when we
want beans in something they are available with a bit of
forethought to thaw them out (for some things it doesn't
matter as they can thaw out when the other thing is cooking
and if i'm in a hurry the microwave will thaw them out).

i do like refried beans, but i like whole cooked beans in
a burrito even more (the onions, etc. could be cooked in a
larger batch and put in a jar in the fridge and used when
needed).

songbird

I never knew how complicated beans are. I never thought that much in
the last 60 years I've cooked and ate them.

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On 2025-06-11, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

flood of sins wrote:
...

hydrate beans by soaking at least overnight. cook beans, salt
added to cook water.

next time hold off on the salt until after they are cooked.
since you are processing them anyways you might not notice a
difference in flavor or texture, but i'd be interested if you
do notice a difference or not. :)

Canned beans are salted before cooking. They're fine. It doesn't
make the skins tough.

https://www.seriouseats.com/salt-beans-cooking-soaking-water-good-or-bad

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On 2025-06-11, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 21:13:52 +0000, gm wrote:

Jill McQuown wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

Jill

Another one of Jill's BORING and BLAND "sick room" recipes...

GM

I don't know what your beef is with this recipe.

It's GM. Someone could post a recipe that's 100% identical
to one he makes and he'd still criticize it.

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On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 09:15:59 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-11, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

flood of sins wrote:
...

hydrate beans by soaking at least overnight. cook beans, salt
added to cook water.

next time hold off on the salt until after they are cooked.
since you are processing them anyways you might not notice a
difference in flavor or texture, but i'd be interested if you
do notice a difference or not. :)

Canned beans are salted before cooking. They're fine. It doesn't
make the skins tough.

https://www.seriouseats.com/salt-beans-cooking-soaking-water-good-or-bad

I thought songbird was a Bean Professor.

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On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 11:26:25 +0000, heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid>
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

https://www.seriouseats.com/salt-beans-cooking-soaking-water-good-or-bad

Well, hello! They screwed up a perfectly good web site by requiring >JavaScript to get past their new cookie notice. NOT GOOD!

A paranoid mind is a joy forever.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

https://www.seriouseats.com/salt-beans-cooking-soaking-water-good-or-bad

Well, hello! They screwed up a perfectly good web site by requiring
JavaScript to get past their new cookie notice. NOT GOOD!

--
Politicians need to be changed often - like diapers . . .
and for the same reason.

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On 2025-06-11, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

flood of sins wrote:
...

hydrate beans by soaking at least overnight. cook beans, salt
added to cook water.

next time hold off on the salt until after they are cooked.
since you are processing them anyways you might not notice a
difference in flavor or texture, but i'd be interested if you
do notice a difference or not. :)

when i started refrying beans last fall i wasn't using any salt.
then i decided they need a bit of oomph to bring out more
flavor. i've added salt, always 2 tsp kosher, to the soak water
which gets discarded, the cook water some of which gets used for
refrying, and while refrying. yes, there's a difference in flavor
between them all, i like them best when it's added to the cook
water.

Cindy alluded to there's a claim about the skins don't cook as
well is a thing when using salt. i never considered or noticed
that. probably because i like my beans cooked al dente and i
leave them kind of "chunky" for some texture when i mash them.

...

kinda' bland, eh? if you enjoy something, why would anyone give
a fuck how it's made?

well, sometimes people do things out of habit and if they're
not really necessary then...

i would happen to like bean burritoes without making them
into refried bean paste. we cook the beans and then drain
and pack them in jars to freeze. anytime after that when we
want beans in something they are available with a bit of
forethought to thaw them out (for some things it doesn't
matter as they can thaw out when the other thing is cooking
and if i'm in a hurry the microwave will thaw them out).

i do like refried beans, but i like whole cooked beans in
a burrito even more (the onions, etc. could be cooked in a
larger batch and put in a jar in the fridge and used when
needed).

i would like whole beans in a burrito if used with other
ingredients such as meat and cheese. but that kind of defeats
the purpose of a nutritious low cal mid morning snack.

i have a pound of red beans i cooked a couple days ago in the
fridge, and i diced up a couple onions and minced some garlic
this morning before i left for work. planning on refrying them
tonight.

but i'll set some aside and make a whole bean burrito with
a bit of diced fresh onion and a pinch of minced garlic in the
morning. with of course a spliff of tapatio. will let you know
what i think.

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On 2025-06-11, heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

https://www.seriouseats.com/salt-beans-cooking-soaking-water-good-or-bad

Well, hello! They screwed up a perfectly good web site by requiring JavaScript to get past their new cookie notice. NOT GOOD!

is there any part of the www which isn't being enshitified in
one way or another?


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On 2025-06-11, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 11:26:25 +0000, heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid>
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

https://www.seriouseats.com/salt-beans-cooking-soaking-water-good-or-bad

Well, hello! They screwed up a perfectly good web site by requiring >>JavaScript to get past their new cookie notice. NOT GOOD!

A paranoid mind is a joy forever.

I didn't even notice a new cookie notice. Perhaps I agreed to cookies
some time ago and didn't store that piece of information.

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On 2025-06-10, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

On 6/10/2025 9:46 AM, flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-08, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

[...]

i like recipes like this for cooking over open fire in trusty
old iron hanging from a cooking tripod. simple. minimal prep
work. satisfying.

thanks for sharing. :)

You're welcome! I don't have a wood burning fireplace nor a tripod for cooking over one; it's too darn hot for the fireplace even if I did.
And it's too rainy in South Carolina to be cooking on a grill outdoors.
I have made this soup on a charcoal grill in a covered cast iron pot in
years past. That was during a week-long power outage when I lived in
west Tennessee. It works. :)

most weekends when the weather permits during spring, summer and
fall in western New York, we usually have a campfire in the
evening on a saturday night. now that i'm backing off on the
hours i work and am avoiding working most saturday mornings,
friday nights will be a thing too all summer. sometimes my kids
will stop by with the grandkids and they'll cook hotdogs on
sticks [*] and smoores, others will be just my kids and we'll
all get inebriated, and others will just relax. often is something
cooking. pot of baked beans. chili. meaty stew. brats and
taters. and soups like you posted, which have minimal prep work
and is perfect after a tiring day.

[*] these rule for hotdogs on sticks; <https://zweigles.com/products/?fwp_search=pop%20open&fwp_brand=zweigles>


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On 6/11/2025 5:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2025-06-11, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 21:13:52 +0000, gm wrote:

Jill McQuown wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

Jill

Another one of Jill's BORING and BLAND "sick room" recipes...

GM

I don't know what your beef is with this recipe.

It's GM. Someone could post a recipe that's 100% identical
to one he makes and he'd still criticize it.

Does GM actually cook anything? The only time I see his posts is when
someone replies and it seems all he does is make disparaging remarks.
Or when people reply to him when he praises the idiot in office.

Jill

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On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 16:48:10 -0400, Jill McQuown
<j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

On 6/11/2025 5:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2025-06-11, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 21:13:52 +0000, gm wrote:

Jill McQuown wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

Jill

Another one of Jill's BORING and BLAND "sick room" recipes...

GM

I don't know what your beef is with this recipe.

It's GM. Someone could post a recipe that's 100% identical
to one he makes and he'd still criticize it.

Does GM actually cook anything? The only time I see his posts is when >someone replies and it seems all he does is make disparaging remarks.
Or when people reply to him when he praises the idiot in office.

Greg walks around all day with his pants on his ankles, hoping that
Trump will drop by.

--
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Jill McQuown wrote on 6/11/2025 3:48 PM:

On 6/11/2025 5:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2025-06-11, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:

On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 21:13:52 +0000, gm wrote:

Jill McQuown wrote:

It's what is for dinner.

Spicy Five Bean Soup with Barley

Jill

Another one of Jill's BORING and BLAND "sick room" recipes...

GM

I don't know what your beef is with this recipe.

It's GM.  Someone could post a recipe that's 100% identical
to one he makes and he'd still criticize it.

Does GM actually cook anything?  The only time I see his posts is when someone replies and it seems all he does is make disparaging remarks. Or
when people reply to him when he praises the idiot in office.

Jill

That's pretty much true Jill. But your Highness also makes quite a few disparaging remarks, and you're VERY consistent in that. But this IS
royal prerogative I guess, much like trump's.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

I didn't even notice a new cookie notice. Perhaps I agreed to cookies
some time ago and didn't store that piece of information.

I've never seen a cookie notice before yesterday. Had to enable
JavaScript to close the window. Quite annoying to add that extra step
just to dismiss a notice that a site uses cookies, which are everywhere
and have been for decades.

--
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pick the one you haven't tried.

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On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 10:55:11 +0000, heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid>
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

I didn't even notice a new cookie notice. Perhaps I agreed to cookies
some time ago and didn't store that piece of information.

I've never seen a cookie notice before yesterday. Had to enable
JavaScript to close the window.

May you never have a bigger problem than this.

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flood of sins wrote:

is there any part of the www which isn't being enshitified in
one way or another?

I gues not. Just hate to lower my browser security to view a web site. Normally I just close the site and move on, but seriouseats is a keeper,
IMO.

--
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whiskey to accept the things I cannot.

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On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 10:55:12 +0000, heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid>
wrote:

flood of sins wrote:

is there any part of the www which isn't being enshitified in
one way or another?

I gues not. Just hate to lower my browser security to view a web site.

Sucks, doesn't it? You suddenly get all these subliminal messages.

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On 2025-06-11, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:

On 2025-06-11, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

i do like refried beans, but i like whole cooked beans in
a burrito even more (the onions, etc. could be cooked in a
larger batch and put in a jar in the fridge and used when
needed).

[...]

but i'll set some aside and make a whole bean burrito with
a bit of diced fresh onion and a pinch of minced garlic in the
morning. with of course a spliff of tapatio. will let you know
what i think.

that didn't go as planned. 10 year old grandson fun. he's at our
house after school until my son picks him up. i get home and
grab the pump sprayer full of deer and rabbit mace. i head to the
hydrangeas and hostas to spray them with the boy in tow. he notes
how the stuff really stinks then becomes an instant expert on
deterring deer with smelly smells. he wanted to unload the dozen
and a half bags of mulch out of the suv and he prattled non stop
about deterring deer while doing it. after the mulch was piled
in the garage i potted some petunias my wife forgot about and
almost killed to the sound of prattle about deer. went in the
house and cleaned up for dinner which was waiting. yep, still
prattling about deer. ate dinner. cleaned up. got the iron pan,
oil, beans, onions and garlic out, and proceeded to make my
refried beans. to the sound of still incessant prattling about
deer and smelly smells of course. lol.

i was so distracted i didn't realize i didn't set aside some
beans for a whole bean burrito until they were half mashed. i'm
going to miss seeing him every day when my son moves in with my
mom in a few weeks. :(

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On 6/12/2025 6:55 AM, heyjoe wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

I didn't even notice a new cookie notice. Perhaps I agreed to cookies
some time ago and didn't store that piece of information.

I've never seen a cookie notice before yesterday. Had to enable
JavaScript to close the window. Quite annoying to add that extra step
just to dismiss a notice that a site uses cookies, which are everywhere
and have been for decades.

Worked OK for me. No cookie notice. Maybe AdBlock took care of it.

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On 6/12/2025 8:50 AM, flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-11, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:

that didn't go as planned. 10 year old grandson fun. he's at our
house after school until my son picks him up. i get home and
grab the pump sprayer full of deer and rabbit mace. i head to the
hydrangeas and hostas to spray them with the boy in tow. he notes
how the stuff really stinks then becomes an instant expert on
deterring deer with smelly smells. he wanted to unload the dozen
and a half bags of mulch out of the suv and he prattled non stop
about deterring deer while doing it. after the mulch was piled
in the garage i potted some petunias my wife forgot about and
almost killed to the sound of prattle about deer. went in the
house and cleaned up for dinner which was waiting. yep, still
prattling about deer. ate dinner. cleaned up. got the iron pan,
oil, beans, onions and garlic out, and proceeded to make my
refried beans. to the sound of still incessant prattling about
deer and smelly smells of course. lol.

i was so distracted i didn't realize i didn't set aside some
beans for a whole bean burrito until they were half mashed. i'm
going to miss seeing him every day when my son moves in with my
mom in a few weeks. :(

Teach the kid a simple way of deterring them. Just pee on the plants.
He may enjoy helping out.

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On 2025-06-12, heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid> wrote:

flood of sins wrote:

is there any part of the www which isn't being enshitified in
one way or another?

I gues not. Just hate to lower my browser security to view a web site. Normally I just close the site and move on, but seriouseats is a keeper,
IMO.

i do the vast majority of my browsing on iDevices. Safari.
always in private mode. have two apps for filtering. 1Blocker
and uBlacklist. uBlock is coming to iOS soon. booyaa!! 1Blocker
has an option to block cookie notices. since i always browse in
private / incognito mode, no preferences or history is ever
saved and i'd have to click through cookie notices every time i
visit the same sites. the web is unusable these days without
aggresive filtering. :sigh:

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On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 14:02:35 GMT, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:

On 2025-06-12, heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid> wrote:

flood of sins wrote:

is there any part of the www which isn't being enshitified in
one way or another?

I gues not. Just hate to lower my browser security to view a web site.
Normally I just close the site and move on, but seriouseats is a keeper,
IMO.

i do the vast majority of my browsing on iDevices. Safari.
always in private mode. have two apps for filtering. 1Blocker
and uBlacklist. uBlock is coming to iOS soon. booyaa!! 1Blocker
has an option to block cookie notices. since i always browse in
private / incognito mode, no preferences or history is ever
saved and i'd have to click through cookie notices every time i
visit the same sites. the web is unusable these days without
aggresive filtering. :sigh:

Clearly you do very secret things that nobody can know about.

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On 2025-06-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 14:02:35 GMT, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:

On 2025-06-12, heyjoe <nobody@home.invalid> wrote:

flood of sins wrote:

is there any part of the www which isn't being enshitified in
one way or another?

I gues not. Just hate to lower my browser security to view a web site.
Normally I just close the site and move on, but seriouseats is a keeper, >>> IMO.

i do the vast majority of my browsing on iDevices. Safari.
always in private mode. have two apps for filtering. 1Blocker
and uBlacklist. uBlock is coming to iOS soon. booyaa!! 1Blocker
has an option to block cookie notices. since i always browse in
private / incognito mode, no preferences or history is ever
saved and i'd have to click through cookie notices every time i
visit the same sites. the web is unusable these days without
aggresive filtering. :sigh:

Clearly you do very secret things that nobody can know about.

https://www.eff.org/issues/privacy

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On 2025-06-12, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 6/12/2025 8:50 AM, flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-11, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:

that didn't go as planned. 10 year old grandson fun. he's at our
house after school until my son picks him up. i get home and
grab the pump sprayer full of deer and rabbit mace. i head to the
hydrangeas and hostas to spray them with the boy in tow. he notes
how the stuff really stinks then becomes an instant expert on
deterring deer with smelly smells. he wanted to unload the dozen
and a half bags of mulch out of the suv and he prattled non stop
about deterring deer while doing it. after the mulch was piled
in the garage i potted some petunias my wife forgot about and
almost killed to the sound of prattle about deer. went in the
house and cleaned up for dinner which was waiting. yep, still
prattling about deer. ate dinner. cleaned up. got the iron pan,
oil, beans, onions and garlic out, and proceeded to make my
refried beans. to the sound of still incessant prattling about
deer and smelly smells of course. lol.

i was so distracted i didn't realize i didn't set aside some
beans for a whole bean burrito until they were half mashed. i'm
going to miss seeing him every day when my son moves in with my
mom in a few weeks. :(

Teach the kid a simple way of deterring them. Just pee on the plants.
He may enjoy helping out.

unintentionally conditioning my son to pee outside when he was
at a single digit age led to several highly embarrassing moments
for my wife and i.

i am not doing a "but grandpa said it was ok" to him, too.

lol

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On 6/12/2025 12:53 PM, flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-12, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 6/12/2025 8:50 AM, flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-11, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:

i was so distracted i didn't realize i didn't set aside some
beans for a whole bean burrito until they were half mashed. i'm
going to miss seeing him every day when my son moves in with my
mom in a few weeks. :(

Teach the kid a simple way of deterring them. Just pee on the plants.
He may enjoy helping out.

unintentionally conditioning my son to pee outside when he was
at a single digit age led to several highly embarrassing moments
for my wife and i.

i am not doing a "but grandpa said it was ok" to him, too.

lol

LOL My mom told me when my oldest brother was first potty-trained he embarrassed the hell out of her by using a display toilet in a
department store. Well heck, he was just doing what he'd been told to do...

Jill

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On 2025-06-12 2:19 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

On 6/12/2025 12:53 PM, flood of sins wrote:

i am not doing a "but grandpa said it was ok" to him, too.

lol

LOL  My mom told me when my oldest brother was first potty-trained he embarrassed the hell out of her by using a display toilet in a
department store.  Well heck, he was just doing what he'd been told to
do...

Kids are funny. My mother told me about taking us to the beach when I
was just toddler so my brother would have been about 4. He was too shy
to change into his bathing suit in front of us so he went behind some
bushes and changed in the sidewalk where all sorts of strangers could
see him.

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Ed P wrote:

On 6/12/2025 6:55 AM, heyjoe wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

I didn't even notice a new cookie notice. Perhaps I agreed to cookies
some time ago and didn't store that piece of information.

I've never seen a cookie notice before yesterday. Had to enable
JavaScript to close the window. Quite annoying to add that extra step
just to dismiss a notice that a site uses cookies, which are everywhere
and have been for decades.

Worked OK for me. No cookie notice. Maybe AdBlock took care of it.

Here's what I see with my default browser configuration - https://i.postimg.cc/151FzDfm/seriouseats.png

Have to allow JavaScript from seriouseats.com and cookielaw.org to close "Privacy" window. Initially got it wrong - not a cookie notice.
My bad!

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I need people to stop pissing me off.

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Jill McQuown wrote on 6/12/2025 1:19 PM:

On 6/12/2025 12:53 PM, flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-12, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 6/12/2025 8:50 AM, flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-11, flood of sins <fos@sdf.org> wrote:

i was so distracted i didn't realize i didn't set aside some
beans for a whole bean burrito until they were half mashed. i'm
going to miss seeing him every day when my son moves in with my
mom in a few weeks. :(

Teach the kid a simple way of deterring them.  Just pee on the plants.
He may enjoy helping out.

unintentionally conditioning my son to pee outside when he was
at a single digit age led to several highly embarrassing moments
for my wife and i.

i am not doing a "but grandpa said it was ok" to him, too.

lol

LOL  My mom told me when my oldest brother was first potty-trained he embarrassed the hell out of her by using a display toilet in a
department store.  Well heck, he was just doing what he'd been told to
do...

Jill

LOL !!!! Your Majesty has the most wonderful grasp of child potty humor.

Please tell us more amusing anecdotes.

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Ed P wrote:
...

Teach the kid a simple way of deterring them. Just pee on the plants.
He may enjoy helping out.

doesn't work if the deer are hungry enough.


songbird

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On 2025-06-12, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On 2025-06-12 2:19 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:

On 6/12/2025 12:53 PM, flood of sins wrote:

i am not doing a "but grandpa said it was ok" to him, too.

lol

LOL  My mom told me when my oldest brother was first potty-trained he
embarrassed the hell out of her by using a display toilet in a
department store.  Well heck, he was just doing what he'd been told to
do...

Kids are funny. My mother told me about taking us to the beach when I
was just toddler so my brother would have been about 4. He was too shy
to change into his bathing suit in front of us so he went behind some
bushes and changed in the sidewalk where all sorts of strangers could
see him.

my daughter, her early teens. my wife found her half naked in
the living room getting dressed one morning. when asked why
she was getting dressed in the living room my daughter said she
didn't want them to see her. who is them my wife asked. daughter
opened the door of her bedroom and pointed to the poster hanging
on a wall of the Hanson band. :P

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On 2025-06-13, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

Ed P wrote:
...

Teach the kid a simple way of deterring them. Just pee on the plants.
He may enjoy helping out.

doesn't work if the deer are hungry enough.

they've been eating my next door neighbors stuff and leaving us
alone so far this year. i think it may have to do with our
vehicles are parked much closer to what they were eating thanks
to a new driveway poured last fall.

i was going to pull up the hydrangeas and replace them with
something else but they've left them alone for the first time in
three years. which prompted me to try the deer and rabbit mace
that someone told me works for thier tulips.

and yes, if they're hungry enough, nothing is safe from thier
gnawing teeth. :/

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On 2025-06-13 8:59 a.m., flood of sins wrote:

On 2025-06-13, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

Ed P wrote:

doesn't work if the deer are hungry enough.

they've been eating my next door neighbors stuff and leaving us
alone so far this year. i think it may have to do with our
vehicles are parked much closer to what they were eating thanks
to a new driveway poured last fall.

i was going to pull up the hydrangeas and replace them with
something else but they've left them alone for the first time in
three years. which prompted me to try the deer and rabbit mace
that someone told me works for thier tulips.

and yes, if they're hungry enough, nothing is safe from thier
gnawing teeth. :/
Deer can be relentless. My friends parents had a beautiful house on

Vancouver island. It nestled between a couple mountains and completely isolated. His mother loved gardening and they invest a lot of time, work
and money into planting and maintaining their flowers, but then the deer
would come along and devour everything. His father tried everything
short of shooting them. Fences are useless against deer. Hanging pie
pans, streamers, sprayers, bangers...... nothing worked.

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Dave Smith wrote:
...

Deer can be relentless. My friends parents had a beautiful house on Vancouver island. It nestled between a couple mountains and completely isolated. His mother loved gardening and they invest a lot of time, work
and money into planting and maintaining their flowers, but then the deer would come along and devour everything. His father tried everything
short of shooting them. Fences are useless against deer. Hanging pie
pans, streamers, sprayers, bangers...... nothing worked.

fenced do work, but they do have to be tall enough to keep
them out. here 6 feet will keep most of the deer out, but
7-8 feet is better. also the deer may run into the fence if
it is a see through type. if you put up an 8ft wooden fence
they can't see through they won't even try to jump it and
they won't run into it either.

we've had some deer try to run through fences here and
some have succeeded in that i didn't build the fence with a
huge amount of heavy wire to hold it to the posts - so if
they try hard enough they can get through it. much easier
to repair it this way instead of having it get very bent up
and misshapen.


songbird

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On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 22:27:22 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:

Dave Smith wrote:
...

Deer can be relentless. My friends parents had a beautiful house on
Vancouver island. It nestled between a couple mountains and completely
isolated. His mother loved gardening and they invest a lot of time, work
and money into planting and maintaining their flowers, but then the deer
would come along and devour everything. His father tried everything
short of shooting them. Fences are useless against deer. Hanging pie
pans, streamers, sprayers, bangers...... nothing worked.

fenced do work, but they do have to be tall enough to keep
them out.

Same with people, Sherlock.

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On 2025-06-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Deer can be relentless. My friends parents had a beautiful house on Vancouver island. It nestled between a couple mountains and completely isolated. His mother loved gardening and they invest a lot of time, work
and money into planting and maintaining their flowers, but then the deer would come along and devour everything. His father tried everything
short of shooting them. Fences are useless against deer. Hanging pie
pans, streamers, sprayers, bangers...... nothing worked.

All farmers and ranchers should be allowed to harvest a deer a month on
their own land. There ought to be a law!

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On 16 Jun 2025 02:13:06 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 2025-06-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Deer can be relentless. My friends parents had a beautiful house on
Vancouver island. It nestled between a couple mountains and completely
isolated. His mother loved gardening and they invest a lot of time, work
and money into planting and maintaining their flowers, but then the deer
would come along and devour everything. His father tried everything
short of shooting them. Fences are useless against deer. Hanging pie
pans, streamers, sprayers, bangers...... nothing worked.

All farmers and ranchers should be allowed to harvest a deer a month on
their own land. There ought to be a law!

Yeah, let's have a bunch of drunk rednecks shoot a deer every month.

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On 2025-06-16, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 2025-06-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Deer can be relentless. My friends parents had a beautiful house on
Vancouver island. It nestled between a couple mountains and completely
isolated. His mother loved gardening and they invest a lot of time, work
and money into planting and maintaining their flowers, but then the deer
would come along and devour everything. His father tried everything
short of shooting them. Fences are useless against deer. Hanging pie
pans, streamers, sprayers, bangers...... nothing worked.

All farmers and ranchers should be allowed to harvest a deer a month on
their own land. There ought to be a law!

I saw two deer in my yard yesterday morning. They don't seem
to bother anything I've planted. Maybe they're mowing through
the neighbors' flowerbeds instead of mine.

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Cindy Hamilton

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On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:38:08 +0000, flood of sins wrote:

most weekends when the weather permits during spring, summer and
fall in western New York, we usually have a campfire in the
evening on a saturday night. now that i'm backing off on the
hours i work and am avoiding working most saturday mornings,
friday nights will be a thing too all summer. sometimes my kids
will stop by with the grandkids and they'll cook hotdogs on
sticks [*] and smoores, others will be just my kids and we'll
all get inebriated, and others will just relax. often is something
cooking. pot of baked beans. chili. meaty stew. brats and
taters. and soups like you posted, which have minimal prep work
and is perfect after a tiring day.

[*] these rule for hotdogs on sticks; <https://zweigles.com/products/?fwp_search=pop%20open&fwp_brand=zweigles>

It sounds like you have a very good life. Congrats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMkXxWcL14s

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