• Re: Cooking for one

    From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Jun 10 19:14:03 2025
    Ed P wrote on 6/10/2025 6:43 PM:
    On 6/10/2025 7:31 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    Good for her.

    Cook for two, or more, and have leftovers.  Much more efficient.

    Or, he could cook for two, but invite someone else to share the meal.
    Maybe he'd get some new strange pussy!

    Hell, maybe kuth would even do it!

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Tue Jun 10 19:43:52 2025
    On 6/10/2025 7:31 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    Good for her.

    Cook for two, or more, and have leftovers. Much more efficient.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Tue Jun 10 19:09:48 2025
    BryanGSimmons wrote on 6/10/2025 6:31 PM:
    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.


    You can do without pussy for 10 days.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Wed Jun 11 00:57:18 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 0:09:48 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    BryanGSimmons wrote on 6/10/2025 6:31 PM:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.


    You can do without pussy for 10 days.


    He can hook up with Kuthe while Betsey Crocker has
    a much-welcomed respite from the inhouse asshole.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Wed Jun 11 13:55:20 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:46:10 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 6/10/2025 7:09 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    BryanGSimmons wrote on 6/10/2025 6:31 PM:
    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.


    You can do without pussy for 10 days.

    Yes. I can. Heck, when I was in my early 20s, there were times when I
    went months! The one thing that I do when she is out of town is eat
    White Castles. Last month they had $25 gift cards for $19.21 in honor
    of National Hamburger month. I bought one. That card, plus $1.28 will
    buy 6 six packs of burgers, which is the ideal amount. They sometimes
    cause pungent onion farts, so I abstain unless my wife is off doing
    something with her family or out of town.


    Bryan, you should go fart on Jill...

    Maybe that would "loosen up" her dusty old cooter, lol...

    --
    GM

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Wed Jun 11 11:12:05 2025
    On 6/11/2025 9:19 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    On 6/10/2025 6:43 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 6/10/2025 7:31 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    Good for her.

    Cook for two, or more, and have leftovers.  Much more efficient.

    I *far* prefer quality over efficiency.  See, I *like* to cook. This was breakfast.  No leftovers. https://photos.app.goo.gl/tc8pZHZqR5R4BXyQ9  I used plenty of oil, and got it good and hot, so I could get it brown,
    and somewhat crispy, while leaving it about medium.


    So if you make a whole chicken you toss what you don't eat on day 1?
    Meatloaf? Never bake a cake? Pot of soup?

    You are certainly limiting yourself and may not know hot to properly
    reheat good quality food. Oh, you are at a disadvantage, you don't have
    one of the best tools for reheating, the air fryer.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Jun 11 11:41:23 2025
    On 2025-06-11 11:12 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/11/2025 9:19 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    I *far* prefer quality over efficiency.  See, I *like* to cook. This
    was breakfast.  No leftovers. https://photos.app.goo.gl/
    tc8pZHZqR5R4BXyQ9  I used plenty of oil, and got it good and hot, so I
    could get it brown, and somewhat crispy, while leaving it about medium.


    So if you make a whole chicken you toss what you don't eat on day 1? Meatloaf?  Never bake a cake?  Pot of soup?

    You are certainly limiting yourself and may not know hot to properly
    reheat good quality food.  Oh, you are at a disadvantage, you don't have
    one of the best tools for reheating, the air fryer.

    Some leftover foods are good. When I was a kid we often had leftover
    roast beef and gravy has hot roast beef sandwiches. I like cold chicken
    and most as most as freshly cooked hot. My wife makes a lot of stews,
    short ribs and oxtail. She always cooks them one day to be eaten the
    next, and they are even better on day three. There is nothing wrong
    with re-heating soup.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Wed Jun 11 18:05:54 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:46:10 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    The one thing that I do when she is out of town is eat
    White Castles. Last month they had $25 gift cards for $19.21 in honor
    of National Hamburger month. I bought one. That card, plus $1.28 will
    buy 6 six packs of burgers, which is the ideal amount.


    It sounds like the Keto diet is over.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to bryangsimmons@gmail.com on Thu Jun 12 04:42:54 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 08:19:22 -0500, BryanGSimmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/10/2025 6:43 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 6/10/2025 7:31 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    Good for her.

    Cook for two, or more, and have leftovers.  Much more efficient.

    I *far* prefer quality over efficiency. See, I *like* to cook. This was >breakfast. No leftovers. https://photos.app.goo.gl/tc8pZHZqR5R4BXyQ9 I
    used plenty of oil, and got it good and hot, so I could get it brown,
    and somewhat crispy, while leaving it about medium.

    Can you also have chicken fried steak chicken, CFSC? That's chicken
    fried the way you fry steak when you fry it chicken style.

    --
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Thu Jun 12 04:47:03 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:05:54 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:46:10 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    The one thing that I do when she is out of town is eat
    White Castles. Last month they had $25 gift cards for $19.21 in honor
    of National Hamburger month. I bought one. That card, plus $1.28 will
    buy 6 six packs of burgers, which is the ideal amount.

    It sounds like the Keto diet is over.

    That often happens when hysterical types buy into a hype. Give it a
    bit of time and they drop it completely.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Ed P on Wed Jun 11 17:00:37 2025
    On 6/11/2025 11:12 AM, Ed P wrote:
    On 6/11/2025 9:19 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    On 6/10/2025 6:43 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 6/10/2025 7:31 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    Good for her.

    Cook for two, or more, and have leftovers.  Much more efficient.
    ;
    I *far* prefer quality over efficiency.  See, I *like* to cook. This
    was breakfast.  No leftovers. https://photos.app.goo.gl/
    tc8pZHZqR5R4BXyQ9  I used plenty of oil, and got it good and hot, so I
    could get it brown, and somewhat crispy, while leaving it about medium.

    The plated country fried steak is leaking myoglobin through the
    "somewhat crispy" coating. That's got to be the worst looking chicken
    fried steak I've ever seen.

    So if you make a whole chicken you toss what you don't eat on day 1? Meatloaf?  Never bake a cake?  Pot of soup?

    You are certainly limiting yourself and may not know hot to properly
    reheat good quality food.  Oh, you are at a disadvantage, you don't have
    one of the best tools for reheating, the air fryer.

    I don't think any method of reheating that mess would help, even if he
    hadn't scarfed it down in one sitting for breakfast.

    Jill

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Wed Jun 11 20:38:27 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 23:31:04 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    It's like a breath of fresh aire - for the both of you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSlMViEjrfQ

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Thu Jun 12 06:45:32 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 20:38:27 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 23:31:04 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    It's like a breath of fresh aire - for the both of you.

    Will he get it? :)

    --
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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Wed Jun 11 21:17:38 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:00:37 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 6/11/2025 11:12 AM, Ed P wrote:
    On 6/11/2025 9:19 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    On 6/10/2025 6:43 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 6/10/2025 7:31 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    Good for her.

    Cook for two, or more, and have leftovers.  Much more efficient.
    ;
    I *far* prefer quality over efficiency.  See, I *like* to cook. This
    was breakfast.  No leftovers. https://photos.app.goo.gl/
    tc8pZHZqR5R4BXyQ9  I used plenty of oil, and got it good and hot, so I
    could get it brown, and somewhat crispy, while leaving it about medium.

    The plated country fried steak is leaking myoglobin through the
    "somewhat crispy" coating. That's got to be the worst looking chicken
    fried steak I've ever seen.

    So if you make a whole chicken you toss what you don't eat on day 1?
    Meatloaf?  Never bake a cake?  Pot of soup?

    You are certainly limiting yourself and may not know hot to properly
    reheat good quality food.  Oh, you are at a disadvantage, you don't have
    one of the best tools for reheating, the air fryer.

    I don't think any method of reheating that mess would help, even if he
    hadn't scarfed it down in one sitting for breakfast.

    Jill

    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house.
    OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 16:16:35 2025
    dsi1 wrote on 6/11/2025 3:38 PM:
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 23:31:04 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.

    It's like a breath of fresh aire - for the both of you.


    Indeed Uncle ... like a bowl of hot rice, soaked in Aloha Shoyu!

    Or maybe a wreath of beautiful flowers, made by da hawaiians.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Thu Jun 12 07:58:47 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:17:38 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:00:37 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    The plated country fried steak is leaking myoglobin through the
    "somewhat crispy" coating. That's got to be the worst looking chicken
    fried steak I've ever seen.

    So if you make a whole chicken you toss what you don't eat on day 1?
    Meatloaf?  Never bake a cake?  Pot of soup?

    You are certainly limiting yourself and may not know hot to properly
    reheat good quality food.  Oh, you are at a disadvantage, you don't have >>> one of the best tools for reheating, the air fryer.

    I don't think any method of reheating that mess would help, even if he
    hadn't scarfed it down in one sitting for breakfast.

    Jill

    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house. >OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7

    Is it a lack of faith in one's recipes or cooking skills that makes
    one drown one's food in saucy stuff? Corn, mashed potatoes and a piece
    of dead animal served in a brown swimming pool. When you have all
    those Asian cuisines to be inspired by. Maybe this is American
    mainland contamination.


    --
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Thu Jun 12 08:48:06 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 22:36:10 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:58:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Is it a lack of faith in one's recipes or cooking skills that makes
    one drown one's food in saucy stuff? Corn, mashed potatoes and a piece
    of dead animal served in a brown swimming pool. When you have all
    those Asian cuisines to be inspired by. Maybe this is American
    mainland contamination.

    Da Hawaiians just love brown gravy. You just love to judge people by
    their foods. That's petty and hypocritical.

    I don't judge people by their food. I just judge the food. I often
    like your food pictures. This time I didn't. Get over it, crybaby.

    --
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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Jun 11 22:36:10 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:58:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Is it a lack of faith in one's recipes or cooking skills that makes
    one drown one's food in saucy stuff? Corn, mashed potatoes and a piece
    of dead animal served in a brown swimming pool. When you have all
    those Asian cuisines to be inspired by. Maybe this is American
    mainland contamination.


    Da Hawaiians just love brown gravy. You just love to judge people by
    their foods. That's petty and hypocritical. Go judge your own foods. You
    don't like my food? Stay away from it. You don't understand my food? Go
    study it.

    https://www.cursor.tue.nl/fileadmin/_processed_/7/8/csm_patatje_oorlog_iStock-Alleko_290f1c1553.jpg

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Jun 11 18:01:54 2025
    Bruce wrote on 6/11/2025 5:48 PM:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 22:36:10 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:58:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Is it a lack of faith in one's recipes or cooking skills that makes
    one drown one's food in saucy stuff? Corn, mashed potatoes and a piece
    of dead animal served in a brown swimming pool. When you have all
    those Asian cuisines to be inspired by. Maybe this is American
    mainland contamination.

    Da Hawaiians just love brown gravy. You just love to judge people by
    their foods. That's petty and hypocritical.

    I don't judge people by their food. I just judge the food. I often
    like your food pictures. This time I didn't. Get over it, crybaby.


    Oh, you pissed off da hawaiians. Shame.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Thu Jun 12 00:06:30 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:11:54 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:


    On 6/10/2025 7:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 0:09:48 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    BryanGSimmons wrote on 6/10/2025 6:31 PM:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.


    You can do without pussy for 10 days.


    He can hook up with Kuthe while Betsey Crocker has
    a much-welcomed respite from the inhouse asshole.

    Nobody wants your old, dried out ass.


    And nobody wants your old, withered dick. Too bad
    Betsey never learned what a pee hard is.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Thu Jun 12 10:14:40 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 23:54:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:17:38 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:00:37 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    The plated country fried steak is leaking myoglobin through the
    "somewhat crispy" coating. That's got to be the worst looking chicken
    fried steak I've ever seen.

    Jill


    Agree.


    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house.
    OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7


    Yours looks MUCH better than Buffy's and brown gravy is
    fine. My only objection is the overload of starches.
    Other than that, good looking dinner.

    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he
    cares to admit.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 23:54:41 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:17:38 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:00:37 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    The plated country fried steak is leaking myoglobin through the
    "somewhat crispy" coating. That's got to be the worst looking chicken
    fried steak I've ever seen.

    Jill


    Agree.


    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house. OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7


    Yours looks MUCH better than Buffy's and brown gravy is
    fine. My only objection is the overload of starches.
    Other than that, good looking dinner.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Jun 11 19:17:35 2025
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote on 6/11/2025 6:54 PM:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:17:38 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:00:37 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    The plated country fried steak is leaking myoglobin through the
    "somewhat crispy" coating.  That's got to be the worst looking chicken
    fried steak I've ever seen.

    Jill


    Agree.


    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house.
    OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7


    Yours looks MUCH better than Buffy's and brown gravy is
    fine.  My only objection is the overload of starches.
    Other than that, good looking dinner.

    It's a moot point. Her royal Majesty has already ruled, so even if da hawaiians request special dispensation, it won't be changed at the dataw
    court.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Jun 11 20:32:10 2025
    On 6/11/2025 7:54 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:17:38 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:00:37 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    The plated country fried steak is leaking myoglobin through the
    "somewhat crispy" coating.  That's got to be the worst looking chicken
    fried steak I've ever seen.

    Jill


    Agree.


    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house.
    OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7


    Yours looks MUCH better than Buffy's and brown gravy is
    fine.

    Brown gravy is not unusual with chicken fried steak. I've had it in a
    few restaurants over the years as an option to milk or cream gravy.
    It's usually thickened and spooned on top, not swimming around it on the
    plate.

      My only objection is the overload of starches.
    Other than that, good looking dinner.

    David does love corn. That must really tick someone off who does little
    than make fun of people in the US who eat corn.

    Jill

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Wed Jun 11 19:50:30 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote on 6/11/2025 7:32 PM:
    On 6/11/2025 7:54 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:17:38 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 21:00:37 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    The plated country fried steak is leaking myoglobin through the
    "somewhat crispy" coating.  That's got to be the worst looking chicken >>>> fried steak I've ever seen.

    Jill


    Agree.


    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house. >>> OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7


    Yours looks MUCH better than Buffy's and brown gravy is
    fine.

    Brown gravy is not unusual with chicken fried steak.  I've had it in a
    few restaurants over the years as an option to milk or cream gravy. It's usually thickened and spooned on top, not swimming around it on the plate.

      My only objection is the overload of starches.
    Other than that, good looking dinner.

    David does love corn.  That must really tick someone off who does little
    than make fun of people in the US who eat corn.

    Jill


    Indeed. But your Majesty also has some similar quirks that really sets
    your Highness off.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Thu Jun 12 10:55:51 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 20:32:10 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 6/11/2025 7:54 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Yours looks MUCH better than Buffy's and brown gravy is
    fine.

    Brown gravy is not unusual with chicken fried steak. I've had it in a
    few restaurants over the years as an option to milk or cream gravy.
    It's usually thickened and spooned on top, not swimming around it on the >plate.

      My only objection is the overload of starches.
    Other than that, good looking dinner.

    David does love corn. That must really tick someone off who does little
    than make fun of people in the US who eat corn.

    Well, I learnt something new recently, maybe from Cindy. American
    sweet corn is generally not genetically modified. That's good.
    Unfortunately, the type of corn used in processed and refined food
    (HFCS, corn oil, corn starch) is generally GM in the US. So GM corn
    might still cause brain anomalies in Americans and make them vote for
    Trump. But still, it's a nuance.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Jun 11 21:07:22 2025
    On 6/11/2025 8:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:11:54 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:


    On 6/10/2025 7:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 0:09:48 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    BryanGSimmons wrote on 6/10/2025 6:31 PM:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.


    You can do without pussy for 10 days.


    He can hook up with Kuthe while Betsey Crocker has
    a much-welcomed respite from the inhouse asshole.

    Nobody wants your old, dried out ass.


    And nobody wants your old, withered dick.  Too bad
    Betsey never learned what a pee hard is.

    I'll bet she figured out to get of bed before she had to deal with that
    early on, despite his claims.

    Does anyone else remember he was planning a trip to Washington DC and he planned all the checkout times at the many motels along the way so they
    could have sex every morning before they had to check out of the motels?
    He made her sound like a sex slave being held to a schedule. :(

    Jill

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Wed Jun 11 20:39:47 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote on 6/11/2025 8:07 PM:
    On 6/11/2025 8:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:11:54 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:


    On 6/10/2025 7:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 0:09:48 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    BryanGSimmons wrote on 6/10/2025 6:31 PM:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.


    You can do without pussy for 10 days.


    He can hook up with Kuthe while Betsey Crocker has
    a much-welcomed respite from the inhouse asshole.

    Nobody wants your old, dried out ass.


    And nobody wants your old, withered dick.  Too bad
    Betsey never learned what a pee hard is.

    I'll bet she figured out to get of bed before she had to deal with that
    early on, despite his claims.

    Does anyone else remember he was planning a trip to Washington DC and he planned all the checkout times at the many motels along the way so they
    could have sex every morning before they had to check out of the motels?
     He made her sound like a sex slave being held to a schedule. :(

    Jill


    Yes, and I'm so glad your majesty managed to escape him! I bet it made
    you remember your tryst with Popeye so long ago!

    Maybe john will come back into your lonely life some day.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Jun 11 21:47:47 2025
    On 6/11/2025 8:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:11:54 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:


    On 6/10/2025 7:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 0:09:48 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    BryanGSimmons wrote on 6/10/2025 6:31 PM:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.


    You can do without pussy for 10 days.


    He can hook up with Kuthe while Betsey Crocker has
    a much-welcomed respite from the inhouse asshole.

    Nobody wants your old, dried out ass.


    And nobody wants your old, withered dick.  Too bad
    Betsey never learned what a pee hard is.

    He often makes disparaging remarks about old people. I image he is
    planning not to become one. An appointment with Dr. Kevorkian can fix it.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Jun 12 05:10:25 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he
    cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland -
    unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than
    you'd care to admit.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need
    a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    https://www.amazon.com/vdp/0c0e08d4919a476da0bbfe8fd75ddda3

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/yiHseNazkvXL6AnMA

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Jun 12 05:16:13 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 1:47:47 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    On 6/11/2025 8:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:11:54 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:


    On 6/10/2025 7:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 0:09:48 +0000, Hank Rogers wrote:

    BryanGSimmons wrote on 6/10/2025 6:31 PM:

    For TEN days, while my wife is in Ireland.


    You can do without pussy for 10 days.


    He can hook up with Kuthe while Betsey Crocker has
    a much-welcomed respite from the inhouse asshole.

    Nobody wants your old, dried out ass.


    And nobody wants your old, withered dick.  Too bad
    Betsey never learned what a pee hard is.

    He often makes disparaging remarks about old people. I image he is
    planning not to become one. An appointment with Dr. Kevorkian can fix
    it.


    If he needs a ride for his appointment I don't mind
    driving from Nashville to Da Lou. Anything I can
    do to help and get the ball rolling.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Thu Jun 12 16:55:48 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:10:25 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he
    cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland -
    unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than
    you'd care to admit.

    Oh, I thought you were a wannabe Hawaiian.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need
    a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    Ok, Hawaii charade dropped. Duly noted.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Thu Jun 12 08:54:07 2025
    On 2025-06-12, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he
    cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland -
    unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than
    you'd care to admit.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need
    a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    You're quite familiar with American cooking from 60 years ago. How
    about cracking Bittman's "How to Cook Everything", "The Barefoot
    Contessa Cookbook", "Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat", or "The Moosewood
    Cookbook"?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Jun 12 20:09:19 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 6:55:48 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:10:25 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he
    cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland - >>unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than >>you'd care to admit.

    Oh, I thought you were a wannabe Hawaiian.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need
    a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    Ok, Hawaii charade dropped. Duly noted.

    The proper Hawaiian chef has to be familiar with cuisines from many
    different lands and cultures. Any cook worth his salt should have
    knowledge greater than his country's boarders. That's just my opinion.
    It is, however, an awesome one.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Fri Jun 13 06:39:28 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 20:09:19 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 6:55:48 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:10:25 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific >>>Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland - >>>unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than >>>you'd care to admit.

    Oh, I thought you were a wannabe Hawaiian.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the >>>Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need >>>a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried >>>chicken is totally awesome.

    Ok, Hawaii charade dropped. Duly noted.

    The proper Hawaiian chef has to be familiar with cuisines from many
    different lands and cultures. Any cook worth his salt should have
    knowledge greater than his country's boarders. That's just my opinion.
    It is, however, an awesome one.

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Thu Jun 12 20:17:26 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 8:54:07 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-12, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he
    cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland -
    unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than
    you'd care to admit.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need
    a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    You're quite familiar with American cooking from 60 years ago. How
    about cracking Bittman's "How to Cook Everything", "The Barefoot
    Contessa Cookbook", "Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat", or "The Moosewood
    Cookbook"?

    I can't say what your point is. My experience is quite similar to many
    cooks of my generation. We learned to cook from books. The two books
    cited were among the best. The younger generation aren't interested in
    learning cooking from books - including the books that you cite. I
    already know how to cook everything, anyway.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Jun 12 17:16:25 2025
    On 6/12/2025 4:39 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 20:09:19 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 6:55:48 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:10:25 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland - >>>> unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than >>>> you'd care to admit.

    Oh, I thought you were a wannabe Hawaiian.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need >>>> a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    Ok, Hawaii charade dropped. Duly noted.

    The proper Hawaiian chef has to be familiar with cuisines from many
    different lands and cultures. Any cook worth his salt should have
    knowledge greater than his country's boarders. That's just my opinion.
    It is, however, an awesome one.

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?


    A true Hawaiian chef specializes in native cuisine, such as Poi and
    pineapple.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 12 17:27:07 2025
    On 2025-06-12 4:17 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 8:54:07 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    You're quite familiar with American cooking from 60 years ago.  How
    about cracking Bittman's "How to Cook Everything", "The Barefoot
    Contessa Cookbook", "Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat", or "The Moosewood
    Cookbook"?

    I can't say what your point is. My experience is quite similar to many
    cooks of my generation. We learned to cook from books. The two books
    cited were among the best. The younger generation aren't interested in learning cooking from books - including the books that you cite. I
    already know how to cook everything, anyway.


    When I got married and started cooking a lot our go to cookbooks were
    the Joy of Cooking and the Better Homes and Gardens Cook Book. Then I
    started watching The Galloping Gourmet and I learned a lot from him.
    Now I rarely bother with cookbooks. I just go online and Google recipes.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Jun 12 17:35:57 2025
    On 2025-06-12 5:16 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/12/2025 4:39 PM, Bruce wrote:

    The proper Hawaiian chef has to be familiar with cuisines from many
    different lands and cultures. Any cook worth his salt should have
    knowledge greater than his country's boarders. That's just my opinion.
    It is, however, an awesome one.

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?


    A true Hawaiian chef specializes in native cuisine, such as  Poi and pineapple.

    It's interesting that there are a variety of cultural styles of cooking
    and that there are trained cooks who have gone to considerable effort to
    learn other styles of cooking. It is also interesting that there are
    some cultures who, for one reason or another, own and operate
    restaurants featuring the foods of other cultures and there are other
    cultures who produce a lot of restaurant cooks. For instance, there are
    a lot of Greeks in the restaurant business. They don't do just Greek
    food. They run a lot of "American" restaurants, breakfast joints and
    diners, pizzerias, Italian restaurants and more. At one time my son was
    running a microbrewery restaurant that was based in France and served
    some foods from that region along with some other French and North
    American variation. His kitchen staff were mostly Tamils, and apparently
    Tamils are a an overwhelming presence in most of the restaurants in that
    city.

    But lets hear it for the Hawaiians because some of them know something
    about foods that are not Hawaiian.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Jun 13 07:36:42 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 17:16:25 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 6/12/2025 4:39 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 20:09:19 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the >>>>> Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need >>>>> a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    Ok, Hawaii charade dropped. Duly noted.

    The proper Hawaiian chef has to be familiar with cuisines from many
    different lands and cultures. Any cook worth his salt should have
    knowledge greater than his country's boarders. That's just my opinion.
    It is, however, an awesome one.

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?


    A true Hawaiian chef specializes in native cuisine, such as Poi and >pineapple.

    But if you walk into a Hawaiian Japanese restaurant and say "One
    Portuguese soupie, please!", will the chef think "Sure, after all, I'm multicultural"?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Thu Jun 12 21:36:59 2025
    On 2025-06-12, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 8:54:07 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-12, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he
    cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland -
    unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than
    you'd care to admit.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need >>> a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    You're quite familiar with American cooking from 60 years ago. How
    about cracking Bittman's "How to Cook Everything", "The Barefoot
    Contessa Cookbook", "Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat", or "The Moosewood
    Cookbook"?

    I can't say what your point is. My experience is quite similar to many
    cooks of my generation. We learned to cook from books. The two books
    cited were among the best. The younger generation aren't interested in learning cooking from books - including the books that you cite. I
    already know how to cook everything, anyway.

    My point is that your impression from those ancient cookbooks is
    nothing like American cooking in the 21st Century.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Thu Jun 12 15:51:26 2025
    On 2025-06-12 3:16 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/12/2025 4:39 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 20:09:19 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 6:55:48 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:10:25 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about >>>>> me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland - >>>>> unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander
    than
    you'd care to admit.

    Oh, I thought you were a wannabe Hawaiian.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the >>>>> Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't
    need
    a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    Ok, Hawaii charade dropped. Duly noted.

    The proper Hawaiian chef has to be familiar with cuisines from many
    different lands and cultures. Any cook worth his salt should have
    knowledge greater than his country's boarders. That's just my opinion.
    It is, however, an awesome one.

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?


    A true Hawaiian chef specializes in native cuisine, such as  Poi

    I've had steak and kidney poi and chicken pot poi, each followed by
    apple poi.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 12 17:25:23 2025
    dsi1 wrote on 6/12/2025 3:09 PM:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 6:55:48 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:10:25 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he
    cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland -
    unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than
    you'd care to admit.

    Oh, I thought you were a wannabe Hawaiian.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need >>> a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    Ok, Hawaii charade dropped. Duly noted.

    The proper Hawaiian chef has to be familiar with cuisines from many
    different lands and cultures. Any cook worth his salt should have
    knowledge greater than his country's boarders. That's just my opinion.
    It is, however, an awesome one.


    Indeed, Uncle. But this is easy for da hawaiians because they know
    everything about absolutely everything. They are like miniature golden
    gods, taking care of da rock for the big kahuna up in da sky.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Jun 12 19:15:19 2025
    On 2025-06-12 5:51 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-06-12 3:16 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/12/2025 4:39 PM, Bruce wrote:

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?


    A true Hawaiian chef specializes in native cuisine, such as  Poi

    I've had steak and kidney poi and chicken pot poi, each followed by
    apple poi.

    We had a Hawaiian restaurant in our town for a while. Apparently the
    own er had vacationed in Hawaii a few times and was so impressed with
    the food that he opened the restaurant. I went there for lunch with my
    son and was not impressed. I had opted for the healthy option on the
    menu, mahi mahi. The lions share of the meal was carbs, a huge serving
    of rice with a few black sesame seeds and an equal sized dome of
    macaroni salad. The fish was a tiny serving that would have been about
    4" by 3" and less than 1/2" thick.

    They had a FaceBook page and most of the comments were negative, and the
    owner had replied nastily to the comments, so I felt free to be honest.
    He owned up to screwing up with the greens that were rotten. Seriously,
    the bed of greens on which that small piece was placed were slimy black
    and smelly. But he said that mahi mahi is expensive so they limit the
    serving to 4 oz. Bullshit it was 4 oz, It was more like 1 1/2 - 2 oz.

    It may or may not have been a good example of Hawaiian food but I guess
    I am not the only one who was sorely disappointed. It did not last long.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Jun 12 18:28:25 2025
    Dave Smith wrote on 6/12/2025 6:15 PM:
    On 2025-06-12 5:51 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-06-12 3:16 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/12/2025 4:39 PM, Bruce wrote:

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?


    A true Hawaiian chef specializes in native cuisine, such as  Poi

    I've had steak and kidney poi and chicken pot poi, each followed by
    apple poi.

    We had a Hawaiian restaurant in our town for a while.  Apparently the
    own er had vacationed in Hawaii a few times and was so impressed with
    the food that he opened the restaurant. I went there for lunch with my
    son and was not impressed. I had opted for the healthy option on the
    menu, mahi mahi. The lions share of the meal was carbs, a huge  serving
    of rice with a few black sesame seeds and an equal sized dome of
    macaroni salad. The fish was a tiny serving that would have been about
    4" by 3" and less than 1/2" thick.

    They had a FaceBook page and most of the comments were negative, and the owner had replied nastily to the comments, so I felt free to be honest.
    He owned up to screwing up with the greens that were rotten. Seriously,
    the bed of greens on which that small piece was placed were  slimy black
    and smelly. But he said that mahi mahi is expensive so they limit the
    serving to 4 oz.  Bullshit it was 4 oz, It was more like 1 1/2 - 2 oz.


    Dave, you should have arrested the bastard on the spot. Let the crown
    court sort out his crooked business.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Jun 12 18:24:38 2025
    Graham wrote on 6/12/2025 4:51 PM:
    On 2025-06-12 3:16 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/12/2025 4:39 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 20:09:19 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 6:55:48 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:10:25 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about >>>>>> me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the
    mainland -
    unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander >>>>>> than
    you'd care to admit.

    Oh, I thought you were a wannabe Hawaiian.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the >>>>>> Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I
    don't need
    a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried >>>>>> chicken is totally awesome.

    Ok, Hawaii charade dropped. Duly noted.

    The proper Hawaiian chef has to be familiar with cuisines from many
    different lands and cultures. Any cook worth his salt should have
    knowledge greater than his country's boarders. That's just my opinion. >>>> It is, however, an awesome one.

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?


    A true Hawaiian chef specializes in native cuisine, such as  Poi

    I've had steak and kidney poi and chicken pot poi, each followed by
    apple poi.


    Sounds like you had poi running out your ass!

    Maybe a cork could help a little.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Fri Jun 13 09:32:38 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 19:15:19 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-06-12 5:51 p.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-06-12 3:16 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 6/12/2025 4:39 PM, Bruce wrote:

    Can't a Hawaiian chef specialise in a particular cuisiine?


    A true Hawaiian chef specializes in native cuisine, such as  Poi

    I've had steak and kidney poi and chicken pot poi, each followed by
    apple poi.

    We had a Hawaiian restaurant in our town for a while. Apparently the
    own er had vacationed in Hawaii a few times and was so impressed with
    the food that he opened the restaurant. I went there for lunch with my
    son and was not impressed. I had opted for the healthy option on the
    menu, mahi mahi. The lions share of the meal was carbs, a huge serving
    of rice with a few black sesame seeds and an equal sized dome of
    macaroni salad. The fish was a tiny serving that would have been about
    4" by 3" and less than 1/2" thick.

    They had a FaceBook page and most of the comments were negative, and the >owner had replied nastily to the comments, so I felt free to be honest.
    He owned up to screwing up with the greens that were rotten. Seriously,
    the bed of greens on which that small piece was placed were slimy black
    and smelly. But he said that mahi mahi is expensive so they limit the
    serving to 4 oz. Bullshit it was 4 oz, It was more like 1 1/2 - 2 oz.

    It may or may not have been a good example of Hawaiian food but I guess
    I am not the only one who was sorely disappointed. It did not last long.

    Of course that's not a good example, Sherlock.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jun 13 00:20:08 2025
    On 2025-06-11, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    Some leftover foods are good. When I was a kid we often had leftover
    roast beef and gravy has hot roast beef sandwiches. I like cold chicken
    and most as most as freshly cooked hot. My wife makes a lot of stews,
    short ribs and oxtail. She always cooks them one day to be eaten the
    next, and they are even better on day three. There is nothing wrong
    with re-heating soup.


    I like "less than six dollar" whole chickens. I don't see them often. I
    bought one the other day without noticing the "sell by" date. It was
    yesterday.
    So...I boiled the chicken, tore it up and placed it in a ziplock. I
    celeryed, onioned and salted the broth and put it in a container.
    I plan on making chicken and dumplings or chicken and noodles in the
    next day or so. I haven't done this before, but it should be fine, and
    the hard work is done.
    I threw out the guts and picked-over bones this morning. Garbage
    collection is tomorrow. Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri Jun 13 00:52:18 2025
    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 0:28:22 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2025-06-11, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house.
    OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7


    I like brown gravy too. Pork 'N York from last week.

    <https://postimg.cc/DmvFYw6P>

    Indeed, you need gravy for the pork and the York. A cook in Wales served
    me up one of his Yorkies and asked me if I wanted some gravy - well,
    hell yes! That guy was so proud of his Yorkies. That's a very good
    thing. I like to add a little dark soy sauce in gravy to give it some
    color.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/ucyLx9J1v43XWos47

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/GQE2BLvPorjsd3MW8

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Jun 13 00:31:49 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 21:36:59 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-12, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 8:54:07 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-12, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he >>>>> cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about
    me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland - >>>> unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander than >>>> you'd care to admit.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the
    Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't need >>>> a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    You're quite familiar with American cooking from 60 years ago. How
    about cracking Bittman's "How to Cook Everything", "The Barefoot
    Contessa Cookbook", "Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat", or "The Moosewood
    Cookbook"?

    I can't say what your point is. My experience is quite similar to many
    cooks of my generation. We learned to cook from books. The two books
    cited were among the best. The younger generation aren't interested in
    learning cooking from books - including the books that you cite. I
    already know how to cook everything, anyway.

    My point is that your impression from those ancient cookbooks is
    nothing like American cooking in the 21st Century.

    I thought we were talking about chicken fried steak? That's classic
    American cooking. My point is that we're talking about a classic
    American dish. Southern fried chicken is a classic American dish that's
    still relevant in 2025. My guess is that rfc doesn't really care for
    modern American cooking.

    I asked my step-mom to make some tartar sauce for the salmon I fried up recently. She pulled out a Swedish cookbook that she probably got when
    she was a young bride and looked it up. I thought that was amusing but a
    lot of older cooks will do that. Like it or not, rfc is not about
    contemporary American cooking. OTOH, I can indeed do American cooking in
    the 21st century.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtQ_qyk8FBc

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 12 20:01:36 2025
    dsi1 wrote on 6/12/2025 7:31 PM:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 21:36:59 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-12, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 8:54:07 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-12, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 0:14:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    You're a mainlander and I guess dsi1 is more of a mainlander than he >>>>>> cares to admit.

    Yooze is such a presumptuous little boy. You don't know a thing about >>>>> me. I've lived on the mainland on the West coast and the Pacific
    Northwest. It was a good life. We'll probably end up on the mainland - >>>>> unless there's a war, of course. Indeed, I am more of a mainlander
    than
    you'd care to admit.

    I'm quite familiar with American cooking. I learned to cook with the >>>>> Better Homes and Garden New Cookbook, and The Good Housekeeping
    Cookbook. These are classic American cookbooks. These days, I don't
    need
    a cookbook and can cook up pretty much anything. My Southern fried
    chicken is totally awesome.

    You're quite familiar with American cooking from 60 years ago.  How
    about cracking Bittman's "How to Cook Everything", "The Barefoot
    Contessa Cookbook", "Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat", or "The Moosewood
    Cookbook"?

    I can't say what your point is. My experience is quite similar to many
    cooks of my generation. We learned to cook from books. The two books
    cited were among the best. The younger generation aren't interested in
    learning cooking from books - including the books that you cite. I
    already know how to cook everything, anyway.

    My point is that your impression from those ancient cookbooks is
    nothing like American cooking in the 21st Century.

    I thought we were talking about chicken fried steak? That's classic
    American cooking. My point is that we're talking about a classic
    American dish. Southern fried chicken is a classic American dish that's
    still relevant in 2025. My guess is that rfc doesn't really care for
    modern American cooking.

    I asked my step-mom to make some tartar sauce for the salmon I fried up recently. She pulled out a Swedish cookbook that she probably got when
    she was a young bride and looked it up. I thought that was amusing but a
    lot of older cooks will do that. Like it or not, rfc is not about contemporary American cooking. OTOH, I can indeed do American cooking in
    the 21st century.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtQ_qyk8FBc


    Cut the shit show Tojo. Lets get back to da hawaiian cooking.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Fri Jun 13 00:28:22 2025
    On 2025-06-11, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Boy are you picky! Here's my CFS. It's more Hawaiian style because of
    the brown gravy. That's because I don't usually carry milk in the house. OTOH, I love brown gravy!

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwwVAEeZW7W3mPmk7


    I like brown gravy too. Pork 'N York from last week.

    <https://postimg.cc/DmvFYw6P>

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Jun 13 04:01:58 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Cut the shit show Tojo. Lets get back to da hawaiian cooking.


    Better yet, Unca Tojo needs to show his gratitude to us white Mainland
    folk by watching this WONDERFUL patriotic parade that PRESIDENT TRUMP is
    giving us... it's ALSO a GRAND CELEBRATION of President Trump's 79th birthday...!!!

    Semper Fi, Sire Hank...!!! O:-)


    US Army 250th Anniversary Parade:


    "The United States Army 250th Anniversary Parade is scheduled to take
    place on June 14, 2025, in Washington, D.C., United States, to
    commemorate the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States
    Army, the oldest of the six branches of the United States Armed
    Forces...

    The parade will also celebrate veterans and active-duty service members,
    and coincide with President Donald Trump's 79th birthday...

    Flag Day is also on June 14 each year to honor the United States flag
    and to commemorate the flag’s adoption..."

    😎

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jun 13 09:28:45 2025
    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 23:15:19 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    We had a Hawaiian restaurant in our town for a while. Apparently the
    own er had vacationed in Hawaii a few times and was so impressed with
    the food that he opened the restaurant. I went there for lunch with my
    son and was not impressed. I had opted for the healthy option on the
    menu, mahi mahi. The lions share of the meal was carbs, a huge serving
    of rice with a few black sesame seeds and an equal sized dome of
    macaroni salad. The fish was a tiny serving that would have been about
    4" by 3" and less than 1/2" thick.

    They had a FaceBook page and most of the comments were negative, and the owner had replied nastily to the comments, so I felt free to be honest.
    He owned up to screwing up with the greens that were rotten. Seriously,
    the bed of greens on which that small piece was placed were slimy black
    and smelly. But he said that mahi mahi is expensive so they limit the
    serving to 4 oz. Bullshit it was 4 oz, It was more like 1 1/2 - 2 oz.

    It may or may not have been a good example of Hawaiian food but I guess
    I am not the only one who was sorely disappointed. It did not last long.

    The Hawaiian food served on the mainland isn't really Hawaiian food.
    What those restaurants are selling are local Hawaiian food or Hawaiian
    plate lunches. My guess is that most of them aren't very good. There are
    a few restaurants in Hawaii that serve Hawaiian food but not many.
    Hawaiian food wouldn't work on the mainland. People would find it too
    weird.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpsinjKdHCU&t=252s

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Fri Jun 13 20:15:31 2025
    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 09:28:45 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 23:15:19 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    It may or may not have been a good example of Hawaiian food but I guess
    I am not the only one who was sorely disappointed. It did not last long.

    The Hawaiian food served on the mainland isn't really Hawaiian food.
    What those restaurants are selling are local Hawaiian food or Hawaiian
    plate lunches. My guess is that most of them aren't very good. There are
    a few restaurants in Hawaii that serve Hawaiian food but not many.
    Hawaiian food wouldn't work on the mainland. People would find it too
    weird.

    If there are only a few restaurants in Hawaii that serve real Hawaiian
    food, is that because that food's also too weird for most Hawaiians?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 13 10:35:17 2025
    dsi1 wrote:

    The Hawaiian food served on the mainland isn't really Hawaiian food.


    Both Israel and the US know that Tehran will have to retaliate against
    us both, thus giving the US a reason to join in...

    I hope this is true...

    Iran has deserved an all - out crushing for 40 years...

    Time to deliver - Incoming...!!!!

    !!!... BANG BANG BANG ...!!!

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jun 13 11:05:58 2025
    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 10:15:31 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 09:28:45 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 23:15:19 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    It may or may not have been a good example of Hawaiian food but I guess
    I am not the only one who was sorely disappointed. It did not last long.

    The Hawaiian food served on the mainland isn't really Hawaiian food.
    What those restaurants are selling are local Hawaiian food or Hawaiian >>plate lunches. My guess is that most of them aren't very good. There are
    a few restaurants in Hawaii that serve Hawaiian food but not many.
    Hawaiian food wouldn't work on the mainland. People would find it too >>weird.

    If there are only a few restaurants in Hawaii that serve real Hawaiian
    food, is that because that food's also too weird for most Hawaiians?

    Da locals prefer local Hawaiian food over Hawaiian food. There's only a
    few dishes in Hawaiian food so that gets monotonous. We go to Chinese restaurants more than Hawaiian restaurants. The local Hawaiian food is a
    blast.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HhRPdRdTPQ

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Fri Jun 13 21:21:30 2025
    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 11:05:58 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 10:15:31 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 09:28:45 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 23:15:19 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    It may or may not have been a good example of Hawaiian food but I guess >>>> I am not the only one who was sorely disappointed. It did not last long. >>>
    The Hawaiian food served on the mainland isn't really Hawaiian food.
    What those restaurants are selling are local Hawaiian food or Hawaiian >>>plate lunches. My guess is that most of them aren't very good. There are >>>a few restaurants in Hawaii that serve Hawaiian food but not many. >>>Hawaiian food wouldn't work on the mainland. People would find it too >>>weird.

    If there are only a few restaurants in Hawaii that serve real Hawaiian
    food, is that because that food's also too weird for most Hawaiians?

    Da locals prefer local Hawaiian food over Hawaiian food. There's only a
    few dishes in Hawaiian food so that gets monotonous. We go to Chinese >restaurants more than Hawaiian restaurants. The local Hawaiian food is a >blast.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HhRPdRdTPQ

    That makes sense.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 14 05:10:40 2025
    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 11:21:30 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    That makes sense.

    According to a real live human being:

    Food historian Rachel Laudan (1996) on four distinct types of food plus
    a new, fifth type known as "Hawaiian Regional Cuisine" (HRC) that began
    in 1991. Because HRC was so new at the time of Laudan's book, she only
    briefly touches upon it: "I came to understand that what people in
    Hawaii eat is a mixture of four distinct kinds of food, introduced at
    distinct periods, but now all coexisting. The first three reflect the
    three diasporas that have terminated in Hawaii: the great marine
    diaspora of the Pacific Islanders that probably reached the Hawaiian
    Islands sometime in the third century A.D..; the European voyages of
    discovery that finally came upon the Islands in the late eighteenth
    century; and the long migration of the Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese,
    Koreans, Filipinos, and lately, Southeast Asians, most of whom came to
    work on the plantations. From these diverse traditions, a fourth, an East-West-Pacific food, is now being created, known in the Islands as
    Local Food.[64] [...] But there is another cuisine in the Islands that
    attracts attention, Hawaii Regional Cuisine...[it] was created by forces
    quite different from those that drive Local Food...although the forces
    creating Hawaii Regional Cuisine and Local Food were different, their
    current cross-fertilization can be nothing but mutually beneficial,
    creating a firm regional base for the cuisine of the restaurants and
    increasing sophistication for the cuisine of the home and the street."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_Hawaii#Hawaii_regional_cuisine

    Hawaii Regional Cuisine created by 12 Hawaiian chefs. It utilizes
    ingredients found in the Pacific regions which can be
    sustainably/ethically sourced. The principle of locally sourced, fresh, ingredients has caught on with high end restaurants/chefs throughout
    America.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sat Jun 14 15:57:54 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 05:10:40 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 11:21:30 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    That makes sense.

    According to a real live human being:

    Food historian Rachel Laudan (1996) on four distinct types of food plus
    a new, fifth type known as "Hawaiian Regional Cuisine" (HRC) that began
    in 1991. Because HRC was so new at the time of Laudan's book, she only >briefly touches upon it: "I came to understand that what people in
    Hawaii eat is a mixture of four distinct kinds of food, introduced at >distinct periods, but now all coexisting. The first three reflect the
    three diasporas that have terminated in Hawaii: the great marine
    diaspora of the Pacific Islanders that probably reached the Hawaiian
    Islands sometime in the third century A.D..; the European voyages of >discovery that finally came upon the Islands in the late eighteenth
    century; and the long migration of the Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese, >Koreans, Filipinos, and lately, Southeast Asians, most of whom came to
    work on the plantations. From these diverse traditions, a fourth, an >East-West-Pacific food, is now being created, known in the Islands as
    Local Food.[64] [...] But there is another cuisine in the Islands that >attracts attention, Hawaii Regional Cuisine...[it] was created by forces >quite different from those that drive Local Food...although the forces >creating Hawaii Regional Cuisine and Local Food were different, their
    current cross-fertilization can be nothing but mutually beneficial,
    creating a firm regional base for the cuisine of the restaurants and >increasing sophistication for the cuisine of the home and the street."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_Hawaii#Hawaii_regional_cuisine

    Hawaii Regional Cuisine created by 12 Hawaiian chefs. It utilizes
    ingredients found in the Pacific regions which can be
    sustainably/ethically sourced. The principle of locally sourced, fresh, >ingredients has caught on with high end restaurants/chefs throughout
    America.

    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 14 16:50:53 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and
    it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever
    you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in
    the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sat Jun 14 18:48:45 2025
    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and
    it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in
    the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here. Once the ground freezes
    solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything.

    No. I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Jun 14 16:03:37 2025
    On 6/14/2025 2:48 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and
    it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever
    you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in
    the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here. Once the ground freezes
    solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything.

    No. I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.


    Coincidentally, this came up when I talked to my friend, Sue, this
    morning. We remember as kids, certain fruits and veggies were just not available certain times of the year. We were in a cold climate so
    nothing local in winter, trucked in things were more expensive.

    With tariffs, could be like that again. Peru is trying to figure out
    what to do with blueberries this year. They are the largest exporter of
    them in the world and US is a big market.

    Greenhouse grown helps with some veggies, often with a bit lesser
    quality. Living in Philadelphia, in summer we could get Jersey
    tomatoes, the best available, very cheap. Even in New Jersey, some of
    the varieties are not as good as they used to be.

    Next winter may be interesting.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sun Jun 15 06:12:52 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 16:50:53 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and
    it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever >you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in
    the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    It's a nice idea. Farmers' markets can provide that for the home cook.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Sun Jun 15 06:14:46 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:48:45 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and
    it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever
    you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in
    the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here. Once the ground freezes
    solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything.

    No. I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.

    There are more winter vegetables, of course. I wouldn't mind not
    eating lettuce, cucumbers or tomatoes for a couple of months of the
    year.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat Jun 14 20:38:00 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:48:45 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and
    it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever
    you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in
    the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here. Once the ground freezes
    solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything.

    No. I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.

    When I said that the locavore philosophy can be applied anywhere, I
    certainly didn't mean anywhere you live. That would be just silly. Just
    be glad that you don't live on a tiny rock in the middle of nowhere.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IdzwEKGReQ

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 14 16:32:55 2025
    dsi1 wrote on 6/14/2025 3:38 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:48:45 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and
    it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever >>> you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in
    the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here.  Once the ground freezes
    solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything.

    No.  I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.

    When I said that the locavore philosophy can be applied anywhere, I
    certainly didn't mean anywhere you live. That would be just silly. Just
    be glad that you don't live on a tiny rock in the middle of nowhere.


    But Uncle, yoose love living on your tiny rock. Yoose always blowing
    and bragging about it!

    Yoose would really miss da hawaiians if yoose ever left.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 07:55:07 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 16:32:55 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    dsi1 wrote on 6/14/2025 3:38 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:48:45 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and >>>> it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever >>>> you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in
    the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here.  Once the ground freezes
    solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything.

    No.  I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.

    When I said that the locavore philosophy can be applied anywhere, I
    certainly didn't mean anywhere you live. That would be just silly. Just
    be glad that you don't live on a tiny rock in the middle of nowhere.


    But Uncle, yoose love living on your tiny rock. Yoose always blowing
    and bragging about it!

    Yoose would really miss da hawaiians if yoose ever left.

    From what I understand, Hawaii's becoming too expensive for normal
    people.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 14 18:00:01 2025
    Bruce wrote on 6/14/2025 4:55 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 16:32:55 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    dsi1 wrote on 6/14/2025 3:38 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:48:45 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and >>>>> it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever >>>>> you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in >>>>> the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here.  Once the ground freezes
    solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything.

    No.  I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.

    When I said that the locavore philosophy can be applied anywhere, I
    certainly didn't mean anywhere you live. That would be just silly. Just
    be glad that you don't live on a tiny rock in the middle of nowhere.


    But Uncle, yoose love living on your tiny rock. Yoose always blowing
    and bragging about it!

    Yoose would really miss da hawaiians if yoose ever left.

    From what I understand, Hawaii's becoming too expensive for normal
    people.

    Maybe Uncle can move back to japan, or possibly with his wife's white
    relatives back in Montana.

    I'm confident he'll be OK. He's asian, so he always lands on his feet.
    Ninja are like that.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 09:40:30 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:00:01 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote on 6/14/2025 4:55 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 16:32:55 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    dsi1 wrote on 6/14/2025 3:38 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:48:45 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and >>>>>> it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of
    building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever >>>>>> you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in >>>>>> the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here.  Once the ground freezes
    solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything. >>>>>
    No.  I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.

    When I said that the locavore philosophy can be applied anywhere, I
    certainly didn't mean anywhere you live. That would be just silly. Just >>>> be glad that you don't live on a tiny rock in the middle of nowhere.


    But Uncle, yoose love living on your tiny rock. Yoose always blowing
    and bragging about it!

    Yoose would really miss da hawaiians if yoose ever left.

    From what I understand, Hawaii's becoming too expensive for normal
    people.

    Maybe Uncle can move back to japan, or possibly with his wife's white >relatives back in Montana.

    I'm confident he'll be OK. He's asian, so he always lands on his feet.
    Ninja are like that.

    Maybe the Las Vegas casinos are tempting him.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 14 18:48:49 2025
    Bruce wrote on 6/14/2025 6:40 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:00:01 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote on 6/14/2025 4:55 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 16:32:55 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    dsi1 wrote on 6/14/2025 3:38 PM:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 18:48:45 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-06-14, dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 5:57:54 +0000, Bruce wrote:
    Do you ever eat HRC? It sounds good, but expensive.

    I have eaten HRC but it's not the kind of stuff that I normally eat and >>>>>>> it is expensive. It's not a style that people cook up at home.

    The important part is not the Pacific region part but the idea of >>>>>>> building a network/relationship of farmers and sources local to wherever
    you're cooking. This "locavore" philosophy can be applied anywhere in >>>>>>> the world and it has.

    https://www.merrimanshawaii.com/

    Kind of falls apart in the winter here.  Once the ground freezes >>>>>> solid four feet down, it's a challenge to grow and harvest anything. >>>>>>
    No.  I don't want to spend the winter eating parsnips.

    When I said that the locavore philosophy can be applied anywhere, I
    certainly didn't mean anywhere you live. That would be just silly. Just >>>>> be glad that you don't live on a tiny rock in the middle of nowhere. >>>>>

    But Uncle, yoose love living on your tiny rock. Yoose always blowing >>>> and bragging about it!

    Yoose would really miss da hawaiians if yoose ever left.

    From what I understand, Hawaii's becoming too expensive for normal
    people.

    Maybe Uncle can move back to japan, or possibly with his wife's white
    relatives back in Montana.

    I'm confident he'll be OK. He's asian, so he always lands on his feet.
    Ninja are like that.

    Maybe the Las Vegas casinos are tempting him.


    Yes! Another great possibility for him. He's always loved the gambling subculture, and he is a very crafty asian, so he'd do quite well there.
    I hadn't thought of that.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Jun 15 03:49:55 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 21:55:07 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    From what I understand, Hawaii's becoming too expensive for normal
    people.

    It can take you quite a while to understand these simple things. As it
    goes, da Hawaiians have quite an advantage - they can move to almost
    anywhere in the United States and find food and the cost of living to be
    pretty cheap. I suppose that means most places on Earth too. Moving out
    of the state is an attractive option. Maybe I move to this place.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-lMbdlIhg

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sun Jun 15 14:22:32 2025
    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 03:49:55 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 21:55:07 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    From what I understand, Hawaii's becoming too expensive for normal
    people.

    It can take you quite a while to understand these simple things. As it
    goes, da Hawaiians have quite an advantage - they can move to almost
    anywhere in the United States and find food and the cost of living to be >pretty cheap. I suppose that means most places on Earth too. Moving out
    of the state is an attractive option.

    I'm not sure what your problem is, but that's exactly what I meant.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Jun 15 04:41:02 2025
    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 4:22:32 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 03:49:55 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 21:55:07 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    From what I understand, Hawaii's becoming too expensive for normal
    people.

    It can take you quite a while to understand these simple things. As it >>goes, da Hawaiians have quite an advantage - they can move to almost >>anywhere in the United States and find food and the cost of living to be >>pretty cheap. I suppose that means most places on Earth too. Moving out
    of the state is an attractive option.

    I'm not sure what your problem is, but that's exactly what I meant.

    Hawaii has been too expensive for normal people for the last few
    decades. Haven't you learned anything from my previous posts? The cost
    of living here is simply crushing. We could continue to live in this
    most beautiful of places but I think we should be roaming around the
    world forthwith before we kick our respective buckets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bdLdsp_vRk&t=517

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to dsi100@yahoo.com on Sun Jun 15 15:52:44 2025
    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 04:41:02 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 4:22:32 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 03:49:55 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 21:55:07 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    From what I understand, Hawaii's becoming too expensive for normal
    people.

    It can take you quite a while to understand these simple things. As it >>>goes, da Hawaiians have quite an advantage - they can move to almost >>>anywhere in the United States and find food and the cost of living to be >>>pretty cheap. I suppose that means most places on Earth too. Moving out >>>of the state is an attractive option.

    I'm not sure what your problem is, but that's exactly what I meant.

    Hawaii has been too expensive for normal people for the last few
    decades. Haven't you learned anything from my previous posts? The cost
    of living here is simply crushing. We could continue to live in this
    most beautiful of places but I think we should be roaming around the
    world forthwith before we kick our respective buckets.

    That's exactly what I said, thank you.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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