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    From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 21:25:06 2025
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries
    -Blueberries
    -Potatoes

    The Clean Fifteen:
    -Pineapple
    -Sweet corn
    -Avocados
    -Papaya
    -Onions
    -Frozen sweet peas
    -Asparagus [not steamed -- Ed.]
    -Cabbage
    -Watermelon
    -Cauliflower
    -Bananas
    -Mangos
    -Carrots
    -Mushrooms
    -Kiwi <https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/11/health/2025-dirty-dozen-pesticide-wellness>

    PS: This applies to the US. Some chemicals allowed in the US aren't
    allowed in other parts of the world.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jun 16 15:48:54 2025
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Jun 16 12:43:47 2025
    On 2025-06-16 11:48 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.


    Where do those tree fruits pick up all that dirt? No mention of root
    vegetables like carrots, parsnips, radish etc that are grown in the soil
    and pulled out. No mention of onions that are similarly grown in the
    ground and pulled out for harvest, or leeks that are so full of sand
    they usually have to be pulled apart and rinsed. No mention of melons,
    squash, etc that develop sitting on the dirt.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to adavid.smith@sympatico.ca on Tue Jun 17 04:52:35 2025
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 12:43:47 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-06-16 11:48 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.


    Where do those tree fruits pick up all that dirt? No mention of root >vegetables like carrots, parsnips, radish etc that are grown in the soil
    and pulled out. No mention of onions that are similarly grown in the
    ground and pulled out for harvest, or leeks that are so full of sand
    they usually have to be pulled apart and rinsed. No mention of melons, >squash, etc that develop sitting on the dirt.

    I think it's more about pesticides and herbicides than about dirt.
    Besides, "the list is compiled from the latest government testing data
    on nonorganic produce".

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Tue Jun 17 04:50:12 2025
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:48:54 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.

    Maybe they're number 13.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jun 16 15:39:01 2025
    On 6/16/2025 7:25 AM, Bruce wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes

    Our poor iguana, this part of the list makes up most of his diet, all
    bought from the grocery store. Maybe I should have planted some
    collards in my garden this year.

    We have a bearded dragon, too. Do you find those wild near you in
    Australia? Wait, you moved to the suburbs.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jun 16 15:37:37 2025
    On 6/16/2025 2:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 12:43:47 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-06-16 11:48 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.


    Where do those tree fruits pick up all that dirt? No mention of root
    vegetables like carrots, parsnips, radish etc that are grown in the soil
    and pulled out. No mention of onions that are similarly grown in the
    ground and pulled out for harvest, or leeks that are so full of sand
    they usually have to be pulled apart and rinsed. No mention of melons,
    squash, etc that develop sitting on the dirt.

    I think it's more about pesticides and herbicides than about dirt.
    Besides, "the list is compiled from the latest government testing data
    on nonorganic produce".


    Yes, some of the better choices are actually grown in the dirt,
    mushrooms often in a manure mix.

    Looking at the dirty list, most of those have edible skin so pesticide
    residue would be consumed along with it.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to michael.trew@att.net on Tue Jun 17 07:01:40 2025
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:39:01 -0400, Michael Trew
    <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    On 6/16/2025 7:25 AM, Bruce wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes

    Our poor iguana, this part of the list makes up most of his diet, all
    bought from the grocery store. Maybe I should have planted some
    collards in my garden this year.

    We have a bearded dragon, too. Do you find those wild near you in
    Australia? Wait, you moved to the suburbs.

    But still close to a nature area. Bearded lizards are supposed to be
    common here, but what I've seen the most are water dragons. Mainly
    small ones with big googly eyes, but they can get up to 3 feet long.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 16 21:41:46 2025
    On 2025-06-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-06-16 11:48 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.


    Where do those tree fruits pick up all that dirt? No mention of root vegetables like carrots, parsnips, radish etc that are grown in the soil
    and pulled out. No mention of onions that are similarly grown in the
    ground and pulled out for harvest, or leeks that are so full of sand
    they usually have to be pulled apart and rinsed. No mention of melons, squash, etc that develop sitting on the dirt.

    It's not dirt; it's pesticide.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Jun 16 18:52:59 2025
    On 6/16/2025 11:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.


    He dredges up these "lists" somewhere online. I have no idea who
    compiles them but I see the same sort of things occasionally on an RSS
    feed and most of them are very random compilations.

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 16 18:55:06 2025
    On 6/16/2025 12:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-16 11:48 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries?  Odd.


    Where do those tree fruits pick up all that dirt? No mention of root vegetables like carrots, parsnips, radish etc that are grown in the soil
    and pulled out. No mention of onions that are similarly grown in the
    ground and pulled out for harvest, or leeks that are so full of sand
    they usually have to be pulled apart and rinsed. No mention of melons, squash, etc that develop sitting on the dirt.


    How about everyone just wash the fruit & vegetables they buy (or grow)
    and not worry about whether or not it made some list? At least it is
    Bruce posting something food related. I still have no idea what it is
    he eats or cooks.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Jun 16 18:57:37 2025
    On 2025-06-16 5:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-06-16 11:48 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.


    Where do those tree fruits pick up all that dirt? No mention of root
    vegetables like carrots, parsnips, radish etc that are grown in the soil
    and pulled out. No mention of onions that are similarly grown in the
    ground and pulled out for harvest, or leeks that are so full of sand
    they usually have to be pulled apart and rinsed. No mention of melons,
    squash, etc that develop sitting on the dirt.

    It's not dirt; it's pesticide.



    Hmmmm. I was mislead by the subject mentioning dirt.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Mon Jun 16 19:29:05 2025
    On 6/16/2025 6:55 PM, Jill McQuown wrote:



    How about everyone just wash the fruit & vegetables they buy (or grow)
    and not worry about whether or not it made some list?  At least it is
    Bruce posting something food related.  I still have no idea what it is
    he eats or cooks.


    do pesticides wash off fruit
    While washing fruits and vegetables with water can help remove some
    pesticide residues from the surface, it may not completely eliminate all
    of them.
    Effectiveness of Washing:
    Running water: Rinsing produce under running water for at least 30
    seconds can significantly reduce residues of some pesticides. The
    mechanical action of rubbing the produce while rinsing is likely
    responsible for removing these surface residues.

    Special washes: Studies suggest that using mild detergents or fruit and vegetable washes do not enhance the removal of pesticide residues beyond
    the effectiveness of rinsing with tap water alone. Some sources even
    caution against using dish soap or bleach as they can be absorbed by the
    pores of the produce and become difficult to rinse off.
    Baking soda or vinegar solutions: Some research suggests that soaking
    produce in a baking soda solution or a vinegar solution can help remove
    some pesticide residues.
    Peeling: Peeling fruits and vegetables can be very effective at reducing pesticide levels, as some pesticides can penetrate the peel and remain
    within the pulp.

    Important Considerations:
    No method is 100% effective: It's important to note that no washing
    method can completely remove all pesticide residues.
    Systemic pesticides: Some pesticides are designed to be absorbed by the
    plant and penetrate into the flesh, making them difficult to remove
    through washing or peeling.
    Organic produce: Choosing certified organic produce can reduce exposure
    to synthetic pesticides.
    In summary: While washing your fruits and vegetables is important to
    remove surface dirt, bacteria, and some pesticide residues, it's not a guaranteed way to remove all pesticides. Peeling or choosing organic
    options when possible can further help reduce exposure.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Tue Jun 17 10:07:31 2025
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 18:52:59 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 6/16/2025 11:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.

    He dredges up these "lists" somewhere online.

    If you hadn't killfiled half this newsgroup, you'd have known where
    this "somewhere online" was.

    I have no idea who compiles them

    If you hadn't killfiled half this newsgroup, you'd have known who
    compiled the list.

    <https://treenawynes.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/angry-nun-300x200.jpg>

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to j_mcquown@comcast.net on Tue Jun 17 10:08:40 2025
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 18:55:06 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 6/16/2025 12:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-16 11:48 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries?  Odd.


    Where do those tree fruits pick up all that dirt? No mention of root
    vegetables like carrots, parsnips, radish etc that are grown in the soil
    and pulled out. No mention of onions that are similarly grown in the
    ground and pulled out for harvest, or leeks that are so full of sand
    they usually have to be pulled apart and rinsed. No mention of melons,
    squash, etc that develop sitting on the dirt.


    How about everyone just wash the fruit & vegetables they buy (or grow)
    and not worry about whether or not it made some list? At least it is
    Bruce posting something food related. I still have no idea what it is
    he eats or cooks.

    Washing fruit and vegetables is recommended but it doesn't get rid of
    what's in and through the produce.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Tue Jun 17 09:34:40 2025
    On 2025-06-16, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 6/16/2025 11:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The Dirty Dozen:
    -Spinach
    -Strawberries
    -Kale/mustard greens/collards
    -Grapes
    -Peaches
    -Cherries
    -Nectarines
    -Pears
    -Apples
    -Blackberries

    Blackberries but not raspberries? Odd.


    He dredges up these "lists" somewhere online. I have no idea who
    compiles them but I see the same sort of things occasionally on an RSS
    feed and most of them are very random compilations.

    Don't you read the news? The Environmental Working Group published
    its "Dirty Dozen" list on June 11 and a bunch of news organizations
    have reprinted it. Everything from CNN to Potato News Today.


    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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