• Re-living my childhood. Tough days ahead

    From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 27 14:03:46 2025
    The title says it all. I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days. The water valve in my refrigerator broke!

    The water dispenser is not working! The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it? Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now. Hand made ice. How
    quaint.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Jun 27 21:39:09 2025
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    The title says it all. I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days. The water valve in my refrigerator broke!

    The water dispenser is not working! The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it? Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now. Hand made ice. How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri Jun 27 17:19:50 2025
    On 2025-06-27 2:03 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    The title says it all.  I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days.  The water valve in my refrigerator broke!

    The water dispenser is not working!  The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it?  Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How quaint.


    That made me think back to the 1950s when there use to be ice stores
    where you had to go to get ice. They would go out on the lakes during
    the winter and cut big slabs of ice and haul them to those well
    insulated sheds and then pack them with sawdust.
    In case anyone wonders what ice picks were for, the were to chip away at
    blocks of ice to get smaller pieces to go into drinks.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Jun 27 17:48:40 2025
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now. Hand made ice. How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

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  • From Gary@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jun 27 18:09:53 2025
    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    Makes me a caveman too, Dave. My trays don't break down. they just keep
    on working.

    BTW, yesterday (June 26) was Julie Bove's birthday. I wish her well
    whatever she's doing now. I KNEW that *YOU* would appreciate the
    reminder! hehheh

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Jun 27 17:19:14 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote on 6/27/2025 4:39 PM:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    The title says it all. I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days. The water valve in my refrigerator broke!

    The water dispenser is not working! The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it? Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now. Hand made ice. How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.


    That works too, but it's inconvenient if you drink a lot of booze and
    need a constant supply of ice.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Gary on Fri Jun 27 22:19:13 2025
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 22:09:53 +0000, Gary wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem. >>>> I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How >>>> quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    Makes me a caveman too, Dave. My trays don't break down. they just keep
    on working.

    BTW, yesterday (June 26) was Julie Bove's birthday. I wish her well
    whatever she's doing now. I KNEW that *YOU* would appreciate the
    reminder! hehheh


    Lol, Gary...!!!

    Nice to see ya..!!!

    O:-)

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    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Gary on Sat Jun 28 08:20:35 2025
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:09:53 -0400, Gary <g.majors@att.net> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem. >>>> I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How >>>> quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    Makes me a caveman too, Dave. My trays don't break down. they just keep
    on working.

    BTW, yesterday (June 26) was Julie Bove's birthday. I wish her well
    whatever she's doing now. I KNEW that *YOU* would appreciate the
    reminder! hehheh

    Gary, according to my Forte Agent, this is your first post since 29
    June 2024. You almost made it to a year of silence!

    --
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    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Gary on Fri Jun 27 18:37:05 2025
    On 2025-06-27 6:09 p.m., Gary wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem. >>>> I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How >>>> quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge
    that I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little
    work to fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    Makes me a caveman too, Dave. My trays don't break down. they just keep
    on working.

    BTW, yesterday (June 26) was Julie Bove's birthday. I wish her well
    whatever she's doing now. I KNEW that *YOU* would appreciate the
    reminder!  hehheh


    I didn't expect to hear a response from you. It's not like we trolled
    you by mentioning your attention whore sweetheart.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jun 27 18:24:25 2025
    Dave Smith wrote on 6/27/2025 5:37 PM:
    On 2025-06-27 6:09 p.m., Gary wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.Â
    How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge
    that I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little
    work to fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even
    work.

    Makes me a caveman too, Dave. My trays don't break down. they just
    keep on working.

    BTW, yesterday (June 26) was Julie Bove's birthday. I wish her well
    whatever she's doing now. I KNEW that *YOU* would appreciate the
    reminder!  hehheh


    I didn't expect to hear a response from you. It's not like we trolled
    you by mentioning your attention whore sweetheart.

    Now dave, admit it .... you've always had a hard-on for Julie.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jun 27 19:37:21 2025
    On 6/27/2025 6:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 6:09 p.m., Gary wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How >>>>> quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.


    BTW, yesterday (June 26) was Julie Bove's birthday. I wish her well
    whatever she's doing now. I KNEW that *YOU* would appreciate the
    reminder!  hehheh


    I didn't expect to hear a response from you. It's not like we trolled
    you by mentioning your attention whore sweetheart.


    Gary is the only person here who still thinks about Julie.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Jun 28 00:12:54 2025
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 23:37:21 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 6:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 6:09 p.m., Gary wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How >>>>>> quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.


    BTW, yesterday (June 26) was Julie Bove's birthday. I wish her well
    whatever she's doing now. I KNEW that *YOU* would appreciate the
    reminder!  hehheh


    I didn't expect to hear a response from you. It's not like we trolled
    you by mentioning your attention whore sweetheart.


    Gary is the only person here who still thinks about Julie.

    Jill


    Well, Princess, Gary did a dandy job of trolling yoose and Offiser Dave heehee...

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    GM

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jun 28 00:58:58 2025
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:03:46 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    The title says it all. I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days. The water valve in my refrigerator
    broke!

    The water dispenser is not working! The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered.


    Just go to McDonald's and buy a bag of ice. Supposedly
    the cheapest place to buy it.

    (I warned you about ice makers and water dispensers.
    Now where did I put that box salt I just had to rub
    into your wounds.)

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Jun 28 01:02:18 2025
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.


    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call. But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri Jun 27 20:16:02 2025
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote on 6/27/2025 7:58 PM:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:03:46 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    The title says it all.  I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days.  The water valve in my refrigerator
    broke!

    The water dispenser is not working!  The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered.


    Just go to McDonald's and buy a bag of ice.  Supposedly
    the cheapest place to buy it.

    (I warned you about ice makers and water dispensers.
    Now where did I put that box salt I just had to rub
    into your wounds.)

    Ed has probably already ordered a commercial grade ice maker from
    amazon. By this time tomorrow, he'll have plenty of ice for his booze.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Jun 28 01:46:19 2025
    On 2025-06-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.i


    Ditto.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Jun 28 12:35:20 2025
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:02:18 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call. But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

    Youse are all very ice focused. I only consume ice cream, myself.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Jun 28 08:43:58 2025
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now. Hand made ice. How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    You might be a cave man if you went to a frozen lake and cut out a block
    of ice and dragged it to your cave on a sled. That would be real
    artisanal ice. Those ice cubes formed in trays are totally bogus
    imitation ice.

    My new ice maker is pretty much an under-performer. I have to go retro
    because it's so inadequate. I can hardly believe I'm sinking so low but
    I've bought ice trays - so primitive! I must plan my next move very
    carefully.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Jun 28 08:57:40 2025
    On 2025-06-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now. Hand made ice. How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    First, I'd have to go out and buy ice cube trays.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 28 08:59:31 2025
    On 2025-06-28, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:02:18 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that >>> I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call. But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

    Youse are all very ice focused. I only consume ice cream, myself.

    My husband starts a glass of water by filling a 1-liter glass with
    ice. Then he adds water.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to chamilton5280@invalid.com on Sat Jun 28 19:19:23 2025
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 08:59:31 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:02:18 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that >>>> I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to >>>> fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call. But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

    Youse are all very ice focused. I only consume ice cream, myself.

    My husband starts a glass of water by filling a 1-liter glass with
    ice. Then he adds water.

    I get cold water from the fridge.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Jun 28 08:07:43 2025
    On 6/27/2025 9:02 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.


    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call.  But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

    Um, if you never had to place a service call how come you were talking
    to a repairman about your refrigerator?

    Jill

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 28 13:58:01 2025
    On 2025-06-28, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 08:59:31 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:02:18 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that >>>>> I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to >>>>> fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call. But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

    Youse are all very ice focused. I only consume ice cream, myself.

    My husband starts a glass of water by filling a 1-liter glass with
    ice. Then he adds water.

    I get cold water from the fridge.

    It wouldn't matter. He'd do the same thing if there were water
    in the fridge.

    Our tap water is pretty cold. Fridge temperature in the fall, winter,
    and spring. I just tested it with our instant-read thermometer.
    About 19 C. It'll be a little warmer as the summer progresses;
    the two hottest months are yet to come.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Jun 28 15:51:41 2025
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 12:07:43 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 9:02 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge that >>> I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.


    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call.  But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

    Um, if you never had to place a service call how come you were talking
    to a repairman about your refrigerator?

    Jill


    The freezer was acting up and the 'frig was not as cold
    as it should be thus a repairman in my kitchen. I
    informed him it had an ice maker that had never been
    connected while he was working on the freezer glitch.
    He stated that's why I've never had to place a service
    call until that date and then I asked him if it could
    be removed to free up freezer space. Which he did as
    that useless, to me, feature was taking up valuable
    freezer space.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Jun 28 12:31:05 2025
    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    I[m spoiled and like that stuff. Cold water dispenser is nice too.
    Couple of years ago the ice maker broke so I bought a couple of trays.

    Bags are too irregular large chunk size for my water bottle so once a
    day I fill the trays.

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 17:28:24 2025
    In article <103oaq4$p31o$1@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
    @invalid.com says...

    On 2025-06-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem. >>> I did it years ago, so will make the effort now. Hand made ice. How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    First, I'd have to go out and buy ice cube trays.

    All you need is a plastic box. I bet you've got a
    hammer/ saw/ electric drill to smash the ice with.


    Janet UK

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Janet on Sat Jun 28 17:08:56 2025
    On 2025-06-28, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
    In article <103oaq4$p31o$1@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
    @invalid.com says...

    On 2025-06-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem. >> >>> I did it years ago, so will make the effort now. Hand made ice. How
    quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my fridge that >> > I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    First, I'd have to go out and buy ice cube trays.

    All you need is a plastic box. I bet you've got a
    hammer/ saw/ electric drill to smash the ice with.

    Granted. But I have an ice maker and because it doesn't make
    enough ice for my husband I also buy ice.

    He's worth it.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jun 28 17:15:14 2025
    On 2025-06-28, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 5:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-06-27, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem. >>>> I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How >>>> quaint.

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to
    fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.

    I[m spoiled and like that stuff. Cold water dispenser is nice too.
    Couple of years ago the ice maker broke so I bought a couple of trays.

    Bags are too irregular large chunk size for my water bottle so once a
    day I fill the trays.

    I guess Mr. Hamilton has a wide-mouth water bottle.

    https://nalgene.com/product/32oz-wide-mouth-ultralite-bottle/

    Back when we were doing a lot of home improvement, we'd half-fill
    old Gatorade bottles and freeze them diagonally. Top off with water,
    and crush the ice with a length of black pipe. The Gatorade bottles
    were robust enough to stand up to bashing with a pipe.

    If the weather was really hot, we'd half-fill the bottle with
    Gatorade and freeze that, then add water and bash.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jun 28 16:53:52 2025
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 16:31:05 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    Cold water dispenser is nice too.


    That's why God made water jugs to be kept in the
    refrigerator. 😄

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sun Jun 29 03:44:53 2025
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 15:51:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 12:07:43 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 9:02 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call.  But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

    Um, if you never had to place a service call how come you were talking
    to a repairman about your refrigerator?

    Jill

    The freezer was acting up and the 'frig was not as cold
    as it should be thus a repairman in my kitchen. I
    informed him it had an ice maker that had never been
    connected while he was working on the freezer glitch.
    He stated that's why I've never had to place a service
    call until that date and then I asked him if it could
    be removed to free up freezer space. Which he did as
    that useless, to me, feature was taking up valuable
    freezer space.

    I guess you find drinks from the fridge cold enough without ice, as do
    I.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Jun 28 14:27:04 2025
    On 6/28/2025 11:51 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 12:07:43 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 9:02 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:48:40 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 5:39 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice.  Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    I guess that makes me a cave man. I have an ice maker on my  fridge
    that
    I never hooked up. I have a few ice cube trays. It is so little work to >>>> fill them and stick them in the freezer that it is not even work.


    Same here, repairman said a few years ago not having
    my ice maker hooked up is why I've never had to place
    a service call.  But I've got some silicone ice trays
    that are sooooo easy to pop out the ice.

    Um, if you never had to place a service call how come you were talking
    to a repairman about your refrigerator?

    Jill


    The freezer was acting up and the 'frig was not as cold
    as it should be thus a repairman in my kitchen.  I
    informed him it had an ice maker that had never been
    connected while he was working on the freezer glitch.
    He stated that's why I've never had to place a service
    call until that date and then I asked him if it could
    be removed to free up freezer space.  Which he did as
    that useless, to me, feature was taking up valuable
    freezer space.

    Thanks for clarifying. :)

    Jill

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Jun 28 19:51:10 2025
    On 6/27/2025 2:03 PM, Ed P wrote:
    The title says it all.  I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days.  The water valve in my refrigerator broke!

    The water dispenser is not working!  The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it?  Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300 problem.
    I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made ice.  How quaint.

    Such a tough life, Ed ;) Shame I can't share some of my aluminum ice
    cube trays where you pull up the handle to break the cubes out. Don't
    pinch your fingers, though!

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Jun 28 19:56:18 2025
    On 2025-06-28 7:51 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 2:03 PM, Ed P wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem. I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made
    ice.  How quaint.

    Such a tough life, Ed  ;)  Shame I can't share some of my aluminum ice
    cube trays where you pull up the handle to break the cubes out.  Don't
    pinch your fingers, though!

    I remember those things from the days when the freezer section of a
    fridge was a little compartment with enough room for a couple ice cubes,
    a couple cans of orange juice and a pint of ice cream. Around the time
    they started making proper freezer sections they invented plastic ice
    cube trays. People could not dispose of those metal trays fast enough,

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Jun 28 19:12:50 2025
    Michael Trew wrote on 6/28/2025 6:51 PM:
    On 6/27/2025 2:03 PM, Ed P wrote:
    The title says it all.  I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days.  The water valve in my refrigerator
    broke!

    The water dispenser is not working!  The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it?  Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem. I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made
    ice.  How quaint.

    Such a tough life, Ed  ;)  Shame I can't share some of my aluminum ice
    cube trays where you pull up the handle to break the cubes out.  Don't
    pinch your fingers, though!

    Sure you can share your antiques with Ed! Take those antiques to any US
    post office and ask them for a priority mail flat rate box. Pack in as
    much of your old shit that will fit.

    Ed will receive the shit within a week, probably 2-3 days.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Jun 28 20:40:03 2025
    On 6/28/2025 7:51 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 2:03 PM, Ed P wrote:
    The title says it all.  I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days.  The water valve in my refrigerator broke! >>
    The water dispenser is not working!  The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it?  Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem. I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made
    ice.  How quaint.

    Such a tough life, Ed  ;)  Shame I can't share some of my aluminum ice
    cube trays where you pull up the handle to break the cubes out.  Don't
    pinch your fingers, though!
    Oh, they worked well. I know my mother's fridge had them. We got
    married in 1966 and bought a fridge, I think they were plastic already;

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Jun 28 21:47:02 2025
    On 6/28/2025 7:51 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 2:03 PM, Ed P wrote:
    The title says it all.  I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days.  The water valve in my refrigerator broke! >>
    The water dispenser is not working!  The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it?  Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem. I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made
    ice.  How quaint.

    Such a tough life, Ed  ;)  Shame I can't share some of my aluminum ice
    cube trays where you pull up the handle to break the cubes out.  Don't
    pinch your fingers, though!

    I remember those metal trays with the handle. They actually worked
    pretty well but you should run some water over them first to loosen the
    cubes.

    Jill

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun Jun 29 04:55:58 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:


    Sure you can share your antiques with Ed! Take those antiques to any US
    post office and ask them for a priority mail flat rate box. Pack in as
    much of your old shit that will fit.

    Ed will receive the shit within a week, probably 2-3 days.


    Like Our Dear Unca Tojo, please to kindly allow me to predict THE
    FYOOTURE:

    As much as persons may not want to hear this, I will say that I will not
    be surprised if Donald Trump is nominated as the most consequential and effective president of the last 150 years...

    In terms of rolling back socialism, dealing with the economy, restoring
    vigor to our allies, demonstrating the willingness to talk tough and act
    even tougher (particularly with our allies), bring effective peace to
    the Middle East during both his terms, he is almost without peer
    especially comared to the socialist puke presidents such as Obammy and
    Sleepy Joe Biden...

    I predict a Nobel Peace or two in President Trump's future...!!!

    ==
    GM

    --

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Jun 29 16:51:04 2025
    On 6/28/2025 7:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-28 7:51 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 2:03 PM, Ed P wrote:

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem. I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made
    ice.  How quaint.

    Such a tough life, Ed  ;)  Shame I can't share some of my aluminum ice
    cube trays where you pull up the handle to break the cubes out.  Don't
    pinch your fingers, though!

    I remember those things from the days when the freezer section of a
    fridge was a little compartment with enough room for a couple ice cubes,
    a couple cans of orange juice and a pint of ice cream. Around the time
    they started making proper freezer sections they invented plastic ice
    cube trays. People could not dispose of those metal trays fast enough,

    That's about the size of the freezer in mine, but we have an upright
    freezer downstairs.

    I tried the plastic ice cube trays, the old tiny aluminum box freezer
    doesn't get cold enough to freeze fully. It will freeze fully if you
    use the old metal trays, though.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sun Jun 29 17:46:25 2025
    On 2025-06-29 4:51 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/28/2025 7:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I remember those things from the days when the freezer section of a
    fridge was a little compartment with enough room for a couple ice
    cubes, a couple cans of orange juice and a pint of ice cream. Around
    the time they started making proper freezer sections they invented
    plastic ice cube trays. People could not dispose of those metal trays
    fast enough,

    That's about the size of the freezer in mine, but we have an upright
    freezer downstairs.

    I tried the plastic ice cube trays, the old tiny aluminum box freezer
    doesn't get cold enough to freeze fully.  It will freeze fully if you
    use the old metal trays, though.

    I realize that heat transfers a lot faster through aluminum than plastic
    but that affects the time it takes to cool off and freeze and will not
    make it not freeze at all in plastic.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 11:30:43 2025
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:17:53 +1000, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/6/2025 11:47 am, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 6/28/2025 7:51 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

    Such a tough life, Ed  ;)  Shame I can't share some of my aluminum ice >>> cube trays where you pull up the handle to break the cubes out.  Don't
    pinch your fingers, though!

    I remember those metal trays with the handle.  They actually worked
    pretty well but you should run some water over them first to loosen the
    cubes.

    Jill

    I remember the aluminium trays from when I was a wee tacker in the 50s.
    The trays lasted well into to 80s, the fridge didn't.

    Welcome back, I believe.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Xeno@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Mon Jun 30 11:17:53 2025
    On 29/6/2025 11:47 am, Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 6/28/2025 7:51 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/27/2025 2:03 PM, Ed P wrote:
    The title says it all.  I'm sure most of you will sympathize, except
    Michael, though.

    I remember growing up in the 1950s and 60s, and now will revisit that
    time for the next 5 to 7 days.  The water valve in my refrigerator
    broke!

    The water dispenser is not working!  The ice maker is not working!To
    make ice, I'm going to have to fill a couple of trays with tap water.
    Yes, plain tap water, not charcoal filtered. OMG, will RFK approve of
    it?  Our water is no longer fluoridated so he may.

    Makes me wish I had a 1942 Westinghouse and not have this $300
    problem. I did it years ago, so will make the effort now.  Hand made
    ice.  How quaint.

    Such a tough life, Ed  ;)  Shame I can't share some of my aluminum ice
    cube trays where you pull up the handle to break the cubes out.  Don't
    pinch your fingers, though!

    I remember those metal trays with the handle.  They actually worked
    pretty well but you should run some water over them first to loosen the cubes.

    Jill

    I remember the aluminium trays from when I was a wee tacker in the 50s.
    The trays lasted well into to 80s, the fridge didn't.

    --
    Xeno


    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 30 05:20:38 2025
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 21:46:25 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:

    On 2025-06-29 4:51 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/28/2025 7:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I remember those things from the days when the freezer section of a
    fridge was a little compartment with enough room for a couple ice
    cubes, a couple cans of orange juice and a pint of ice cream. Around
    the time they started making proper freezer sections they invented
    plastic ice cube trays. People could not dispose of those metal trays
    fast enough,

    That's about the size of the freezer in mine, but we have an upright
    freezer downstairs.

    I tried the plastic ice cube trays, the old tiny aluminum box freezer
    doesn't get cold enough to freeze fully.  It will freeze fully if you
    use the old metal trays, though.

    I realize that heat transfers a lot faster through aluminum than plastic
    but that affects the time it takes to cool off and freeze and will not
    make it not freeze at all in plastic.

    That bears to be tested. Mini-fridges work the same way as old time refrigerators i.e., the evaporator coils would be attached to the metal
    freezer section. The inner metal box would remove heat by direct
    conduction of metal to metal contact. The rest of the refrigerator would
    be cooled by air conduction. It wouldn't surprise me if the insulating properties of plastic ice cube trays suppressed heat flow enough to
    retard or stop freezing.

    I used to have one of those refrigerators. The frost build-up also
    suppressed heat flow to the freezer part. It needed frequent defrosting.
    I didn't even bother attempting to make ice cubes.

    Modern refrigerators work by hiding the evaporator coils behind the back
    wall. A heater element is used to melt frost off the coils several times
    a day. If you stick your head in the freezer while it's in the defrost
    cycle, you'll hear water sizzling as water drips on to the heater coil.
    Those heaters get quite hot!

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  • From heyjoe@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Mon Jun 30 15:43:44 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I'd go to the store and buy a bag of ice. Making ice in trays is
    caveman stuff.

    HEY!! I resemble that remark.

    --
    I meant to behave,
    but there were too many other options.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Jun 30 17:02:41 2025
    On 6/29/2025 5:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-06-29 4:51 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/28/2025 7:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I remember those things from the days when the freezer section of a
    fridge was a little compartment with enough room for a couple ice
    cubes, a couple cans of orange juice and a pint of ice cream. Around
    the time they started making proper freezer sections they invented
    plastic ice cube trays. People could not dispose of those metal trays
    fast enough,

    That's about the size of the freezer in mine, but we have an upright
    freezer downstairs.

    I tried the plastic ice cube trays, the old tiny aluminum box freezer
    doesn't get cold enough to freeze fully.  It will freeze fully if you
    use the old metal trays, though.

    I realize that heat transfers a lot faster through aluminum than plastic
    but that affects the time it takes to cool off and freeze and will not
    make it not freeze at all in plastic.

    It really doesn't make any sense, but maybe David has the idea of the
    issue. I had one plastic ice cube tray, and it simply never fully
    froze. Perhaps because much of the cold air from the metal compartment
    is lost to the rest of the fridge cavity, so it never stays under 32F...
    But the metal ice cube tray becomes "part" of the metal freeze, which
    always frosts up on the outside.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Mon Jun 30 17:33:42 2025
    On 2025-06-30 5:02 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
    On 6/29/2025 5:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I realize that heat transfers a lot faster through aluminum than
    plastic but that affects the time it takes to cool off and freeze and
    will not make it not freeze at all in plastic.

    It really doesn't make any sense, but maybe David has the idea of the issue.  I had one plastic ice cube tray, and it simply never fully
    froze.  Perhaps because much of the cold air from the metal compartment
    is lost to the rest of the fridge cavity, so it never stays under 32F...
    But the metal ice cube tray becomes "part" of the metal freeze, which
    always frosts up on the outside.

    All the cooling coils in those old fridges were wrapped around that
    uninsulated freezer compartment. It's likely that close to half the cold
    air was somewhat retained in the freezer while the rest spread out
    through the fridge compartment. They were not great freezers when they
    made them more than 60 years ago. While yours is testament to the fact
    that they had a long life you will not that most people got rid of them
    in the 50s.

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