• Farage Is The United Kingdom's Trump

    From Nobody@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 17:03:14 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has proposed sending some prisoners overseas to serve their sentences, as part of a raft of measures he says would create around 30,000 prison places and cost £17.4bn.

    Speaking at an event in London, he also announced plans to build five prisons, return foreign prisoners to their country of origin, and recruit 30,000 police officers.

    Farage said the UK was "facing nothing short of societal collapse" and that a Reform government would halve crime in five years.

    Labour said the policies were "unfunded" - while the Conservatives accused Farage of offering "tough talk without the faintest idea how to deliver it".

    Asked after his speech how the policies would be funded, Farage said tax rises would not be needed and that Reform was "advocating cutting huge amounts of public spending," including the HS2 rail project and net-zero policies.

    He said crime costed the British economy £170bn, adding: "It isn't really a question of can we afford to do this - it is really a question of can we afford not to do this?"

    Reform UK estimates its proposals would cost £17.4bn over five years, with an annual cost of £3.48bn.

    Plans to hire more police officers make up £10.5bn of the overall bill.

    Farage said a Reform government would want to see a "higher and physically tougher standard of police officer on our streets".

    Asked about this measure on Matt Chorley on 5 Live, Reform MP Sarah Pochin said: "I never like to see two female police officers out together... I'd much rather see a great big strapping male police officer with a female."

    "I think they look vulnerable, but that's just my opinion," she said.

    She added: "But there's 100% a place for women police officers.

    "We need them to go out to certain, perhaps more sensitive situations - situations where children are involved, situations where battered wives are involved or battered girlfriends, that type of thing."

    In order to create more prison spaces, Farage said his party would spend £5bn to build and operate five new low-security 'Nightingale' prisons on Ministry of Defence land, creating 12,400 spaces for "lower category offenders".

    The Nightingale label is a reference to the network of emergency temporary hospitals set up during the Covid pandemic.

    Farage said he would be willing to force Reform-run councils to accept new prisons in their area, adding that it would bring well paid jobs to local communities.

    Reform is also proposing to create 10,400 places by transferring foreign prisoners to their country of origin. In exchange, the UK would be prepared to accept British offenders serving sentences abroad, he said.

    A further 10,000 prison places could be found by sending serious offenders to serve their sentences abroad at an estimated cost of £1.25bn, the party says.

    Farage said his party would consider multiple locations and pointed to Kosovo, Estonia and El Salvador as possibilities, although when pressed on the central American country's human rights record, he said it was an "extreme example".

    Earlier this year, the El Salvadorian President offered to take prisoners in the US - including those with American citizenship - and house them in El Salvador's mega-jail.

    Other countries have pursued similar arrangements - in 2021 Denmark agreed to pay Kosovo an annual fee of £12.8m for an initial five-year period to rent 300 of their prison spaces.

    Successive UK governments have reportedly explored the idea of sending prisoners to Estonia.

    The BBC has been told that both former Conservative ministers and current Labour ones came to the view that such a plan would be very expensive.

    In September of last year, the government said it was "making no such plans or announcements in relation to Estonian prison places".

    A growing prison population, coupled with a lack of new prisons, has put pressure on the system.

    According to the most recent figures, there are 87,835 people in prison in England and Wales, while the useable operational capacity stands at 89,582.

    Last year, the Prison Governors' Association warned that prisons were days away from running out of space, leading to the government letting some inmates out of prison early.

    Responding to the speech, Labour Party chair Ellie Reeves said Reform was "more interested in headline-chasing than serious policy-making in the interests of the British people."

    She added that Labour was "backing up its word with action," pointing to the party's plan to hire 13,000 more police officers and community support officers by the time of the next election in 2029.

    Conservative shadow chancellor Mel Stride said: "This isn't a manifesto - it's a fantasy.

    "Farage's numbers are billions out. You don't halve crime with wishful thinking. You do it with a real plan, real costs, and real leadership."

    Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey said: "I don't follow the words of Nigel Farage very closely. They're normally stuff written on the back of a fag packet."

    He added that one of the best ways to tackle crime was "to make sure we have far more community police officers - that's what Liberal Democrats would do".

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3kg1vpqddo

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Nobody on Fri Aug 1 16:50:14 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    On 2025-08-01 16:03, Nobody wrote:

    [Big snip of populist political piss]

    And like Trump, the rule for judging him is simple: If you can see his
    lips moving, he's lying through his teeth, if you can't see his lips
    moving, he's lying through his arse.

    Nobody <"nob..."@none.invalid> is the UK's new troll, how unsurprising
    that he's posting via the arsehole asylum, dizum.com.

    Plonk!

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
    www.macfh.co.uk

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From No Fake News@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 18:28:41 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    And like Trump, the rule for judging him is simple: If you can see his
    lips moving, he's lying through his teeth, if you can't see his lips
    moving, he's lying through his arse.

    He must be doing something right, they're raking it in!
    Look here...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BhL1JFXsCY

    Farage could do the same!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Nobody@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 19:47:26 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    Nobody <"nob..."@none.invalid> is the UK's new >troll, how unsurprising
    that he's posting via the arsehole asylum, >dizum.com.

    Plonk!

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given >on my website: >www.macfh.co.uk

    Be careful what you say and who you say it to! It might be okay today but tomorrow is another day.

    The Power of Mockery...

    The Mockery Machine: Why Authoritarians Fear and Ridicule Conspiracy Theorists

    In today’s world, the term “conspiracy theorist” often conjures images of eccentric individuals clutching cryptic notes and spouting improbable scenarios. While these stereotypes may seem harmless or even humorous, they serve a much darker purpose:
    undermining those who dare to question official narratives. Mockery is not just a social phenomenon; it’s a deliberate tactic used by authoritarians and elites to silence dissent, manipulate public perception, and maintain control.

    Let’s dive into why this strategy is so effective, how it has evolved, and how we can resist its grip on society.
    The Origin of the “Conspiracy Theorist” Label

    The term “conspiracy theorist” wasn’t always a derogatory label. Historically, it referred to anyone who proposed that events or circumstances might result from secretive or coordinated efforts. However, in the 20th century, the term was weaponized
    to discredit dissenters.

    A pivotal moment came in the wake of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in 1963. The CIA, in response to skepticism surrounding the Warren Commission’s findings, issued a memo (later declassified) encouraging the use of “conspiracy theorist
    as a dismissive term. This strategy aimed to marginalize those questioning the narrative, framing them as irrational or untrustworthy.
    Why Tyrants Fear Conspiracy Theorists

    Tyrants and oppressive regimes thrive on control, and their greatest fear is losing it. Conspiracy theorists, by challenging official narratives and encouraging skepticism, pose a significant threat.

    Disrupting the Official Story...

    Authoritarian regimes rely on carefully crafted stories to maintain their legitimacy. Conspiracy theorists expose inconsistencies, forcing others to question what they’re being told.

    Encouraging Independent Thought...

    Conspiracy theorists inspire others to think critically and seek alternative explanations. This undermines the “trust us” approach of authoritarian figures.

    Exposing Real Conspiracies...

    While not all theories hold water, history has proven that some conspiracies are real. From government surveillance programs to corporate malfeasance, these revelations often start with skeptical individuals piecing together clues.

    The Power of Mockery...

    Mockery is one of the most effective tools for silencing dissent. It turns legitimate questions into punchlines and makes the act of questioning authority seem laughable. Here’s how it works:

    The Tin Foil Hat Trope...

    The enduring image of conspiracy theorists as tin foil hat-wearers suggests paranoia and absurdity. This caricature trivializes their concerns and dismisses them without addressing their arguments.

    Stigmatizing Skepticism...

    When someone is labeled a “conspiracy theorist,” they are often viewed as irrational or unhinged. This stigma discourages others from engaging with their ideas or questioning the status quo themselves.

    Mockery as a Social Weapon...

    Public ridicule isolates dissenters, discouraging open dialogue. It’s easier to laugh at someone than to consider the validity of their arguments, especially when society has been conditioned to associate questioning authority with absurdity.

    The Media’s Role in Perpetuating Ridicule...

    Mainstream media amplifies the mockery of conspiracy theorists through selective representation and sensationalism.

    Highlighting the Fringe...

    Media outlets often focus on the most extreme or bizarre theories, ignoring legitimate questions or concerns. This creates a false equivalency, where all dissenters are painted with the same brush.

    Framing Dissent as Dangerous...

    Increasingly, questioning authority is framed not as skepticism but as spreading “misinformation” or even posing a threat to public safety. This shifts the narrative from ridicule to outright hostility.

    Psychological Tactics Used to Dismiss Dissent...

    The mockery machine employs several psychological tactics to marginalize conspiracy theorists and discredit their ideas.

    Gaslighting...

    By dismissing dissenters as “paranoid” or “delusional,” those in power make individuals question their own perceptions and judgments.

    Fear of Social Rejection...

    Ridicule leverages our natural desire for acceptance, discouraging people from exploring controversial ideas for fear of being ostracized.

    Normalizing Dismissal...

    Society has been conditioned to laugh at conspiracy theorists without engaging with their arguments, creating a culture where skepticism is suppressed before it can even begin.

    Why This Matters...

    Mockery and ridicule are not just about silencing conspiracy theorists—they’re about controlling the population. By turning the public against those who question authority, tyrants maintain their grip on power.

    History has shown us that dissent is vital for progress. Many truths that were once dismissed as “crazy” or “impossible” have been vindicated over time. It’s a reminder that skepticism is not the enemy; it’s a cornerstone of a healthy,
    questioning society.
    Breaking Free from the Mockery Machine

    Recognize the Manipulation...

    Understand that ridicule is a deliberate tactic to suppress critical thinking and dissent.

    Focus on Evidence...

    Encourage reasoned debates based on facts and credible research rather than stereotypes or assumptions.

    Support Open Dialogue...

    Create spaces for respectful discussion where ideas can be shared and challenged without fear of ridicule.

    Educate Yourself and Others...

    Knowledge is the best defense against manipulation. Learn about psychological tactics, historical examples, and the importance of skepticism.

    Why Memes Terrify the Powerful...

    The Battle Against Propaganda in the Digital Age. This deep dive reveals how humor, imagery, and social media are challenging traditional propaganda in ways that even the most powerful regimes struggle to contain.

    Conclusion...

    Ridicule may be a powerful tool, but it’s one that can be countered with awareness and collective resistance. By recognizing the tactics used to suppress dissent, fostering critical thinking, and building communities that value open dialogue, we can
    challenge the mockery machine and empower those who dare to question authority.

    https://theawakeningfront.com/the-mockery-machine-why-authoritarians-fear-and-ridicule-conspiracy-theorists/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Fri Aug 1 21:19:09 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    On 01/08/2025 16:50, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2025-08-01 16:03, Nobody wrote:

    [Big snip of populist political piss]

    And like Trump, the rule for judging him is simple:  If you can see his
    lips moving, he's lying through his teeth, if you can't see his lips
    moving, he's lying through his arse.

    Nobody <"nob..."@none.invalid> is the UK's new troll, how unsurprising
    that he's posting via the arsehole asylum, dizum.com.

    Plonk!



    and how unsurprising that you rise to his bait

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JMB99@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Sat Aug 2 21:23:37 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    On 01/08/2025 16:50, Java Jive wrote:
    And like Trump, the rule for judging him is simple:  If you can see his
    lips moving, he's lying through his teeth, if you can't see his lips
    moving, he's lying through his arse.


    It is generally accepted that Starmer is the worst ever Prime Minister.

    He is widely known for lying all the time.

    Most of his Shadow Cabinet lied in their CVs - some committing criminal offences in doing so. It is being reported that one has been warned
    that he will be prosecuted if he does it again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 2 22:38:22 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    Most of his Shadow Cabinet lied in their CVs - some committing criminal offences in doing so.  It is being reported that one has been warned
    that he will be prosecuted if he does it again.




    are you sure he isnt a she ?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Reformers@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 3 02:09:21 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    Migrants are complaining there are no cigarettes and that they can't use
    the swimming pools in their taxpayer-funded hotels.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/nigel-farage-explodes-as-insane-hotel-migrant-demands-are-exposed/ar-AA1GYU73

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JMB99@21:1/5 to Abandoned Trolley on Sun Aug 3 08:40:28 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    On 02/08/2025 22:38, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    are you sure he isnt a she ?



    https://www.nonbillable.co.uk/news/business-secretary-jonathan-reynolds-warned-sra-false-solicitor-claims

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Trolleybus@21:1/5 to "ref..."@reform.trump.com on Sun Aug 3 10:48:56 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 02:09:21 +0200 (CEST), Reformers <"ref..."@reform.trump.com> wrote:

    Migrants are complaining there are no cigarettes and that they can't use
    the swimming pools in their taxpayer-funded hotels.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/nigel-farage-explodes-as-insane-hotel-migrant-demands-are-exposed/ar-AA1GYU73

    Oh, so they don't get the full four-star experience after all?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 3 10:34:17 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    On 03/08/2025 08:40, JMB99 wrote:
    On 02/08/2025 22:38, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    are you sure he isnt a she ?



    https://www.nonbillable.co.uk/news/business-secretary-jonathan-reynolds- warned-sra-false-solicitor-claims






    apologies - I was thinking of somebody else

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JMB99@21:1/5 to Trolleybus on Sun Aug 3 13:31:28 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, soc.culture.british

    On 03/08/2025 10:48, Trolleybus wrote:
    Oh, so they don't get the full four-star experience after all?


    Four Star? Five Star surely.

    They have already illegally working on food deliveries at the latest
    hotel they have been moved to in London.

    Anyone using them must be crazy, there are videos of the food being
    opened and the delivery people eating it, spitting on it (and worse).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)