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  • Celebrating backgammon players like chess players

    From pepstein5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 22 12:58:15 2023
    In top-level chess, grandmasters often get high praise for playing large numbers of consecutive games without defeat. Of course, given both
    the lack of draws and the high chance factor in backgammon, no one expects
    top backgammon players to stave off defeat for long.
    But I think there is a similar question that we can ask: How often can top backgammon players get through a whole match without making a single
    error that is 0.1 or worse? Are there any records in this domain?
    Since this is very highly related to PR, presumably such records are held
    by Mochy?

    Paul

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  • From Frank Berger@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 22 13:18:35 2023
    Isn't the bgmastersab providing similar informations? Not exactly so much matches without a blunder but the average on a decent number of matchpoints.

    best
    Frank

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to peps...@gmail.com on Sun Apr 23 07:38:31 2023
    On 4/22/2023 3:58 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
    But I think there is a similar question that we can ask: How often can top backgammon players get through a whole match without making a single
    error that is 0.1 or worse? Are there any records in this domain?

    I don't think that anybody keeps track of this sort of thing.
    It's not sufficiently different from PR to be that interesting.

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    Tim Chow

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to peps...@gmail.com on Sun Apr 30 03:03:58 2023
    On April 22, 2023 at 1:58:16 PM UTC-6, peps...@gmail.com wrote:

    ... chess, grandmasters ... large numbers of
    consecutive games without defeat. ... given
    both the lack of draws and the high chance
    factor in backgammon, no one expects top
    backgammon players to stave off defeat for
    long. ... similar question: How often can top
    backgammon players get through a whole
    match without making a single error that is
    0.1 or worse?

    This is worse than comparing apples and
    oranges. All mistakes are made in the past.
    In a game of strategy like chess, there are
    no errors. Only the outcomes matter.

    Assuming that by saying backgammon you
    are referring to gamblegammon played with
    the cube that further magnifies luck, errors
    during the game can only exist one accepts
    that there is no strategy in gamblegammon.

    If one argues that there is room for strategy
    in gamblegammon, a decision may become
    an error retroactively only if the strategy fails.

    Also, when even "celebrating" backgammon
    players would really be celebrating the lucky
    ones, what would be the reason for people
    to celebrate the lucky ones among a handful
    mentally ill gamblegammon player gamblers?

    MK

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