The Chess games we've all been waiting to see.
Magnus Carlsen v Hans Niemann
Will the chess speak for itself or will Hans Niemann be [s]moked by the
World No.1?!
{ The other semi-final sees Hikaru v Alireza Firouzja }
The Chess games we've all been waiting to see.
Magnus Carlsen v Hans Niemann
Will the chess speak for itself or will Hans Niemann be
[s]moked by the World No.1?!
{ The other semi-final sees Hikaru v Alireza Firouzja }
Silver Skull wrote:
The Chess games we've all been waiting to see.
Magnus Carlsen v Hans Niemann
Will the chess speak for itself or will Hans Niemann be
[s]moked by the World No.1?!
Obviously, Magnus is a big favourite for this SF... but GM Hans
upsetting the apple cart would certainly be 'interesting'. (To
quote a famous ex-World Champion!)
The good money would be on a Magnus v Alireza Final now...
{ The other semi-final sees Hikaru v Alireza Firouzja }
Not a surprising result... Firouzja is one of the bright young
stars of chess and definitely a future World Champion.
Move over old man, the youth will have their day!
On Fri, 6 Sep 2024, Silver Skull wrote:
The Chess games we've all been waiting to see.
Magnus Carlsen v Hans Niemann
Will the chess speak for itself or will Hans Niemann be [s]moked by the
World No.1?!
{ The other semi-final sees Hikaru v Alireza Firouzja }
What do you think? Who will win?
On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 7:26:27 +0000, D wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2024, Silver Skull wrote:
The Chess games we've all been waiting to see.
Magnus Carlsen v Hans Niemann
Will the chess speak for itself or will Hans Niemann be
[s]moked by the World No.1?!
{ The other semi-final sees Hikaru v Alireza Firouzja }
What do you think? Who will win?
The GOAT of course. I can't see anyone beyond Magnus for the
2024 SCC title. { Again }
Tomorrow's [irrelevant 3rd place] game at the SCC in Paris;
Hikaru v Hans Niemann should be entertaining enough though.
Of course, others like Marshall, Tal or Kortchnoi never doubt for a
second that their lives had to be dedicated to chess.
It is interesting to think about how much elite chess really demands,
physically and mentally, and at what time age starts to spoil things.
Magnus did not want to compete because he did not feel the motivation any
longer. Is it age taking its toll?
Reuben Fine was about Magnus' age when he quit chess to become a psychiatrist.
Some strong players get hit by a question in their thirties or forties:
"I've devoted my life to ... a game?".
Hort and Yusupov would be examples. I can recall articles in which both had doubts about their choice of career.
Levenfish felt this way but fortunately for him he was also a scientist and could devote his time to that. But unfortunately he was in the USSR which at the time had plenty of scientists but only two players of GM strength. So he was forced to play.
He paid them back, though. A match was arranged with Botvinnik, and the idea was that the pre-revolutionary player (Levenfish) would lose to the young Soviet star. Everybody knew that would happen. But Levenfish didn't read the script, and drew the match.
Sometimes the attitude changes. Szabo, after a very promising start to his career, seemed to fade to the point that he was just another GM. But in his mid 50s he seems to have become inspired again and rose 100 rating points - very hard to do at that age, and especially in the 2500 range.
Botvinnik never had these doubts because he believed chess to be important. As he said late in life "I have never played chess for pleasure". Lasker convinced himself that he played purely for money, but I don't think that is altogether true. Both of these players, though, could get tired of chess, and took time off (to get PhDs, for one thing).
Of course, others like Marshall, Tal or Kortchnoi never doubt for a second that their lives had to be dedicated to chess.
William Hyde
Silver Skull wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 7:26:27 +0000, D wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2024, Silver Skull wrote:
The Chess games we've all been waiting to see.
Magnus Carlsen v Hans Niemann
Will the chess speak for itself or will Hans Niemann be
[s]moked by the World No.1?!
{ The other semi-final sees Hikaru v Alireza Firouzja }
What do you think? Who will win?
The GOAT of course. I can't see anyone beyond Magnus for the
2024 SCC title. { Again }
I can't see beyond Magnus Carlsen for most of the major chess
championship titles at the moment. Well, if he's interested
enough to play in them!
Tomorrow's [irrelevant 3rd place] game at the SCC in Paris;
Hikaru v Hans Niemann should be entertaining enough though.
Will check that out later. "Speed chess" is an easier online
watch than the OTB stuff, where one game goes on for hours upon
hours... and then they shake hands and settle for a draw!
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:39:06 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
Of course, others like Marshall, Tal or Kortchnoi never
doubt for a second that their lives had to be dedicated to
chess.
Good analysis though on that last point you've omitted the
most famous player of that category of all.
I suspect if I say "1972" you'll immediately guess who I mean.
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Silver Skull wrote:
Tomorrow's [irrelevant 3rd place] game at the SCC in Paris;
Hikaru v Hans Niemann should be entertaining enough though.
Will check that out later. "Speed chess" is an easier online
watch than the OTB stuff, where one game goes on for hours
upon hours... and then they shake hands and settle for a
draw!
I think perhaps the key to enjoy those games is to treat it as
baseball? You bbq in the parking lot, have hot dogs, beers,
chat with friends, meanwhile the game goes on in the
background.
Do you think that would work with chess? ;)
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:39:06 -0400, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
wrote:
Of course, others like Marshall, Tal or Kortchnoi never doubt for a
second that their lives had to be dedicated to chess.
Good analysis though on that last point you've omitted the most famous
player of that category of all.
I suspect if I say "1972" you'll immediately guess who I mean.
D wrote:
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Silver Skull wrote:
Tomorrow's [irrelevant 3rd place] game at the SCC in Paris;
Hikaru v Hans Niemann should be entertaining enough though.
Will check that out later. "Speed chess" is an easier online
watch than the OTB stuff, where one game goes on for hours
upon hours... and then they shake hands and settle for a
draw!
I think perhaps the key to enjoy those games is to treat it as
baseball? You bbq in the parking lot, have hot dogs, beers,
chat with friends, meanwhile the game goes on in the
background.
Do you think that would work with chess? ;)
I dunno, I had my Earl Grey and biscuits with my feet up and
watched Hikaru destroy Hans Niemann from the comfort of my
recliner earlier... no need to go outside for a Hot Dog!
The future of chess will be decided by the youngsters of today
but I'm sure it won't be sitting in stuffy rooms for days on end
playing out six draws with cigar smoke lingering in the air from
the old buffers of FIDE watching on and talking about Capablanca
and Alexander Alekhine. Shorter formats will rule the day I'd
say.
I'm looking forward to the SCC final tomorrow anyway... I'd like
to think Alireza can climb the mountain and beat the GOAT, but
obviously most people will be expecting Magnus Carlsen to win.
Silver Skull wrote:
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:11:35 +0000, The Horny Goat wrote:
I suspect if I say "1972" you'll immediately guess who I mean.
I can't think of anyone from 1972 that would deserve to be in a category
with the likes of Mikhail Tal or Viktor Korchnoi. Two legendary
Grandmasters that played chess all their lives and didn't run away from
title challenges, or spend the rest of their days going around acting
like they were on day release from a psych ward.
What about Bobby Fischer? Here's an excerpt about his activity that
year:
Qualifying for the 1972 World Championship, Fischer swept matches with
Mark Taimanov and Bent Larsen by 6–0 scores. After winning another qualifying match against Tigran Petrosian, Fischer won the title match against Boris Spassky of the USSR, in ReykjavÃk, Iceland.
D wrote:
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Silver Skull wrote:
Tomorrow's [irrelevant 3rd place] game at the SCC in Paris;
Hikaru v Hans Niemann should be entertaining enough though.
Will check that out later. "Speed chess" is an easier online
watch than the OTB stuff, where one game goes on for hours
upon hours... and then they shake hands and settle for a
draw!
I think perhaps the key to enjoy those games is to treat it as
baseball? You bbq in the parking lot, have hot dogs, beers,
chat with friends, meanwhile the game goes on in the
background.
Do you think that would work with chess? ;)
I dunno, I had my Earl Grey and biscuits with my feet up and
watched Hikaru destroy Hans Niemann from the comfort of my
recliner earlier... no need to go outside for a Hot Dog!
The future of chess will be decided by the youngsters of today
but I'm sure it won't be sitting in stuffy rooms for days on end
playing out six draws with cigar smoke lingering in the air from
the old buffers of FIDE watching on and talking about Capablanca
and Alexander Alekhine. Shorter formats will rule the day I'd
say.
I'm looking forward to the SCC final tomorrow anyway... I'd like
to think Alireza can climb the mountain and beat the GOAT, but
obviously most people will be expecting Magnus Carlsen to win.
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 2:49:10 +0000, Altered Beast wrote:
What about Bobby Fischer? Here's an excerpt about his
activity that year:
To quote a famous American tennis player;
Bonkers Fischer? You cannot be serious !!!
He set a standard when he was young, then he went crazy. He
should have played Karpov in 1975 and not chickened out.
{ Fischer still wrote one of my favourite ever chess books
though }
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
I dunno, I had my Earl Grey and biscuits with my feet up and
watched Hikaru destroy Hans Niemann from the comfort of my
recliner earlier... no need to go outside for a Hot Dog!
What do you think of Lapsang souchong? Is this a tea you would
ever consider drinking?
When it comes to Niemann, what is your expert opinion on the
cheating? Was the proof presented ever good enough?
And last, but not least, do you prefer mustard on your Hot Dog?
The future of chess will be decided by the youngsters of
today but I'm sure it won't be sitting in stuffy rooms for
days on end playing out six draws with cigar smoke lingering
in the air from the old buffers of FIDE watching on and
talking about Capablanca and Alexander Alekhine. Shorter
formats will rule the day I'd say.
Given the attention spans of most people today, and the
properties of chess competitions, I think you are correct here.
I do however, enjoy the attempts to raise chess to a
gentlemans sport with cigar smoke, dress codes and beautiful
historical environments. But as you say, even I, become pale
(or rather, do not follow slavishly) the several hours long
games. I think 15 to 60 minutes is a nice span.
Another thing I think about is entertainment value, and if it
would be possible to change the scoring (not the rules!) to
facilitate more romantic and risk taking play?
Looking at 15 games where 14 end if draws due to extremely
conservative play, is boring. Looking at dramatics swings is
fun. I wonder if the score could be changed somehow to
encourage such play? Or maybe the format? What if too many
draws would give you a minus or cause you too lose?
Well, I have no idea really, so just throwing out a few ideas
for conversations sake.
I'm looking forward to the SCC final tomorrow anyway... I'd
like to think Alireza can climb the mountain and beat the
GOAT, but obviously most people will be expecting Magnus
Carlsen to win.
It is always more fun to cheer for the underdog! ;)
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:57:57 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
I'm looking forward to the SCC final tomorrow anyway... I'd
like to think Alireza can climb the mountain and beat the
GOAT, but obviously most people will be expecting Magnus
Carlsen to win.
Carlsen to win, but a very close match.
D wrote:
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
I dunno, I had my Earl Grey and biscuits with my feet up and
watched Hikaru destroy Hans Niemann from the comfort of my
recliner earlier... no need to go outside for a Hot Dog!
What do you think of Lapsang souchong? Is this a tea you would
ever consider drinking?
Tried it, not my cup of tea! (Too smokey.)
When it comes to Niemann, what is your expert opinion on the
cheating? Was the proof presented ever good enough?
That's the thing, no proof was ever provided re that Sinquefield
Cup match in Saint Louis in 2022, it was just an insinuation
based on Magnus Carlsen's reaction to losing. Ideas on how Hans
Niemann 'cheated' in that game has been speculated on by many
people online, but no evidence has ever been provided, either by
Magnus Carlsen, the Saint Louis Chess Club... or FIDE.
Chess.com did produce a report regarding Hans Niemann's cheating
'online' when he was younger, which Niemann admitted to doing
(which meant 2+2 = 4) but that wasn't really relevant to an OTB
match in front of people in a tournament where proctors are
present and metal detectors used. So my view is, if you make an
accusation, back it up with evidence. (That applies to Vladimir
Kramink's recent claims about people too.)
And last, but not least, do you prefer mustard on your Hot Dog?
Hotdogs with ketchup and fried onions... mustard is horrible!
The future of chess will be decided by the youngsters of
today but I'm sure it won't be sitting in stuffy rooms for
days on end playing out six draws with cigar smoke lingering
in the air from the old buffers of FIDE watching on and
talking about Capablanca and Alexander Alekhine. Shorter
formats will rule the day I'd say.
Given the attention spans of most people today, and the
properties of chess competitions, I think you are correct here.
That's it, people these days don't have much of an attention
span.
I do however, enjoy the attempts to raise chess to a
gentlemans sport with cigar smoke, dress codes and beautiful
historical environments. But as you say, even I, become pale
(or rather, do not follow slavishly) the several hours long
games. I think 15 to 60 minutes is a nice span.
Chess needs to get away from that "gentleman's game" tag.
The lock-down got a whole lot of people playing Chess online,
especially on the main online Chess sites - Lichess, ICC,
Chess24 and Chess.com, of course. It'd be nice if the game could
'keep' these people.
Another thing I think about is entertainment value, and if it
would be possible to change the scoring (not the rules!) to
facilitate more romantic and risk taking play?
Looking at 15 games where 14 end if draws due to extremely
conservative play, is boring. Looking at dramatics swings is
fun. I wonder if the score could be changed somehow to
encourage such play? Or maybe the format? What if too many
draws would give you a minus or cause you too lose?
Many GM's have suggested improvements to the game over the
years, but getting FIDE to change their rules for the important
classical games is probably like trying to get blood from a
stone!
Well, I have no idea really, so just throwing out a few ideas
for conversations sake.
I'm looking forward to the SCC final tomorrow anyway... I'd
like to think Alireza can climb the mountain and beat the
GOAT, but obviously most people will be expecting Magnus
Carlsen to win.
It is always more fun to cheer for the underdog! ;)
Especially such a promising underdog with the talent of Alireza
Firouzja, who will surely be the world champion one day. (He's
higher rated than the current FIDE World Champion - Ding Liren -
and the 2024 challenger - Gukesh D - but Alireza had a poor
Candidates tournament earlier this year... he is only 21 though.)
D wrote:
I do however, enjoy the attempts to raise chess to a
gentlemans sport with cigar smoke, dress codes and beautiful
historical environments. But as you say, even I, become pale
(or rather, do not follow slavishly) the several hours long
games. I think 15 to 60 minutes is a nice span.
Tournament controls are usually 50 minutes per person. That's
always going to be under two hours a game.
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
That's it, people these days don't have much of an attention
span.
I wonder if there will be a counter movement? Right now there
seem to be a lot of discussions around europe about banning
smart phones for young children, and banning smart phones on
school premises.
I also read about people no longer tinder dating, but instead,
they want "real" dating in real life.
Chess needs to get away from that "gentleman's game" tag.
But one does not have to exclude the other? Maybe both can
exist? I find online chess, like online poker, fairly boring.
In real life, it gets more personal and more interesting for
me.
The lock-down got a whole lot of people playing Chess online,
especially on the main online Chess sites - Lichess, ICC,
Chess24 and Chess.com, of course. It'd be nice if the game
could 'keep' these people.
I think it is a good idea, to encourage the online format, but
not at the expense of the off line format.
On the other hand, I am allergic to people dressing down in
public. WHen flying, it hurts me to see people in slippers and
kindergarten outfits.
Many GM's have suggested improvements to the game over the
years, but getting FIDE to change their rules for the
important classical games is probably like trying to get
blood from a stone!
Well, they have the power, and they earn the money, so that I
imagine would make them very loathe to change anything. But
who knows? Maybe a world champion or two will again start
their own league?
He declined even to write another games collection, which would have
sold out immediately (how much would you have paid for "60 more
memorable games"?).
Will check that out later. "Speed chess" is an easier online
watch than the OTB stuff, where one game goes on for hours
upon hours... and then they shake hands and settle for a
draw!
Of course, you can't beat opening a box and getting the pieces
out, setting the board up and playing a real game of chess in
your sitting room... and getting beaten by you eight year old
grandson! THAT's what it's all about at the end of the day... ;-)
The Horny Goat wrote:I'm sure you're joking but I happen to know that William is old enough
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:39:06 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
Of course, others like Marshall, Tal or Kortchnoi never
doubt for a second that their lives had to be dedicated to
chess.
Good analysis though on that last point you've omitted the
most famous player of that category of all.
I suspect if I say "1972" you'll immediately guess who I mean.
Garry Kasparov was only ten in 1972... so you must be on about
Spassky? (!)
:-)
A bit harsh, but in retrospect a lot of the Bobby Fischer hype
of the day was more to do with the USA-Russia Cold War thing.
The Russian chess players back then were seen - and built up as
- the 'enemy'... and invincible! As Russian's had dominated the
post-war FIDE World Chess Championships, so Bobby Fischer
beating Boris Spassky in 1972 was a BIG thing.
Good analysis though on that last point you've omitted the most famous
player of that category of all.
I suspect if I say "1972" you'll immediately guess who I mean.
I can't think of anyone from 1972 that would deserve to be in a category
with the likes of Mikhail Tal or Viktor Korchnoi. Two legendary
Grandmasters that played chess all their lives and didn't run away from
title challenges, or spend the rest of their days going around acting
like they were on day release from a psych ward.
What about Bobby Fischer? Here's an excerpt about his activity that year:
Qualifying for the 1972 World Championship, Fischer swept matches with
Mark Taimanov and Bent Larsen by 6–0 scores. After winning another
qualifying match against Tigran Petrosian, Fischer won the title match >against Boris Spassky of the USSR, in Reykjavík, Iceland.
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 13:55:26 -0500, Altered Beast <j63480576@gmail.com>That sounds like a good solution. Maybe have the finals be one or two
wrote:
Will check that out later. "Speed chess" is an easier online
watch than the OTB stuff, where one game goes on for hours
upon hours... and then they shake hands and settle for a
draw!
I dunno - I had a lot of fun watching the live feeds from last
spring's Candidates - mind you there were 4 games in play at a time
which made it easier.
at a time.
Altered Beast wrote:
D wrote:
I do however, enjoy the attempts to raise chess to a
gentlemans sport with cigar smoke, dress codes and beautiful
historical environments. But as you say, even I, become pale
(or rather, do not follow slavishly) the several hours long
games. I think 15 to 60 minutes is a nice span.
Tournament controls are usually 50 minutes per person. That's
always going to be under two hours a game.
In the major FIDE tournaments it's 120 minutes per person (> 40
moves)... followed by 30/60 minutes for the rest of the game...
plus increments after a certain amount of moves. Which is why
classical OTB Chess isn't a great for spectators, games often
last four hours plus.
I don't know what the online viewership of this weekend's SCC
Finals in Paris was, but I'm guessing many many thousands on
YouTube, Twitch and Chess.com, plus however many tickets they
sold for the venue. From the e-sports angle, the shorter time
control makes Chess watchable.
Of course, you can't beat opening a box and getting the pieces
out, setting the board up and playing a real game of chess in
your sitting room... and getting beaten by you eight year old
grandson! THAT's what it's all about at the end of the day... ;-)
I also read about people no longer tinder dating, but instead,
they want "real" dating in real life.
I'm a bit too old for Tinder dating. I don't think the missus
would approve either!
Chess needs to get away from that "gentleman's game" tag.
But one does not have to exclude the other? Maybe both can
exist? I find online chess, like online poker, fairly boring.
Of course they can, and will, co-exist.
Personally I find online Chess, especially the blitz and bullet
formats, exciting to watch. It can even be more exciting than
the football at times!
It seems to be where the money is too...
In real life, it gets more personal and more interesting for
me.
Yeah, but sometimes when you get beat and they're sitting there
smiling at you in-person I just want to ram the two Queens up
their nostrils... and that's just when I'm playing members of my
family!
The lock-down got a whole lot of people playing Chess online,
especially on the main online Chess sites - Lichess, ICC,
Chess24 and Chess.com, of course. It'd be nice if the game
could 'keep' these people.
I think it is a good idea, to encourage the online format, but
not at the expense of the off line format.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that! Chess is a board game
and always will be. It's just at the higher level it's not a
great watch for the masses. But for anyone to be good at the
fast time-controls, they'd need to be good at playing real chess
OTB in the first place, which is something most people learn as
a child and/or at school. That's not going to change.
On the other hand, I am allergic to people dressing down in
public. WHen flying, it hurts me to see people in slippers and
kindergarten outfits.
I do like to take my tuxedo off when I fly Ryanair. Is that
dressing down?! ;-)
Many GM's have suggested improvements to the game over the
years, but getting FIDE to change their rules for the
important classical games is probably like trying to get
blood from a stone!
Well, they have the power, and they earn the money, so that I
imagine would make them very loathe to change anything. But
who knows? Maybe a world champion or two will again start
their own league?
Watch this space...
If the FIDE World Champion - and number one ranked Chess player
in the world - deciding not to contest his title and letting
also-rans challenge for it instead doesn't tell FIDE something,
then I doubt they will ever get the message.
On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 23:01:15 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:39:06 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
Good analysis though on that last point you've omitted the
most famous player of that category of all.
I suspect if I say "1972" you'll immediately guess who I
mean.
Garry Kasparov was only ten in 1972... so you must be on
about Spassky? (!) :-)
I'm sure you're joking but I happen to know that William is
old enough to know that THE chess event of 1972 was NOT the
Olympiad but Fischer-Spassky Reykjavik 1972.
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Personally I find online Chess, especially the blitz and
bullet formats, exciting to watch. It can even be more
exciting than the football at times!
It seems to be where the money is too...
Isn't that the saying? Where there is money, there is life! ;)
Yeah, but sometimes when you get beat and they're sitting
there smiling at you in-person I just want to ram the two
Queens up their nostrils... and that's just when I'm playing
members of my family!
That's half the fun of live chess! And half the pain too! ;)
I do like to take my tuxedo off when I fly Ryanair. Is that
dressing down?! ;-)
Thank you, you make the world a more beautiful place! =)
If the FIDE World Champion - and number one ranked Chess
player in the world - deciding not to contest his title and
letting also-rans challenge for it instead doesn't tell FIDE
something, then I doubt they will ever get the message.
No, that's true. Either a competitor comes along, or there
will have to be a generational shift at FIDE.
I wonder about all the GM-level professional streamers...
imagine if they all started their own esports chess league
together. FIDE would be very angry with them.
Isn't that the saying? Where there is money, there is life! ;)
Since the Covid lock-down there is plenty of life in Chess...
people streaming Chess content is big business now. People
watching other people talk about Chess on YouTube (Twitch/Kick
etc.) Who'd have thought it eh?
Yeah, but sometimes when you get beat and they're sitting
there smiling at you in-person I just want to ram the two
Queens up their nostrils... and that's just when I'm playing
members of my family!
That's half the fun of live chess! And half the pain too! ;)
It's always pain, as there's always some sort of monumental
blunder!
I do like to take my tuxedo off when I fly Ryanair. Is that
dressing down?! ;-)
Thank you, you make the world a more beautiful place! =)
I do let myself down a bit by taking my shoes off though...
If the FIDE World Champion - and number one ranked Chess
player in the world - deciding not to contest his title and
letting also-rans challenge for it instead doesn't tell FIDE
something, then I doubt they will ever get the message.
No, that's true. Either a competitor comes along, or there
will have to be a generational shift at FIDE.
I won't be alive to see it, but ...
Imagine a FIDE of 2065 where GM Hikaru Nakamura is President and
GM Hans Niemann is the Head of Commercial Operations...
I wonder about all the GM-level professional streamers...
imagine if they all started their own esports chess league
together. FIDE would be very angry with them.
I think Magnus Carlsen is on the case... he has already said
eSports arenas is where he'd like to see faster time-controlled
Chess tournaments go.
For me the big event this week is the start of the Olympiad in
Budapest on Tuesday Sept 10 and if I spend half as much time online
following it as I did the Toronto Candidates tournament last spring...
I'm sure you're joking but I happen to know that William is
old enough to know that THE chess event of 1972 was NOT the
Olympiad but Fischer-Spassky Reykjavik 1972.
I knew what William meant, hence the smiley. :-)
No, that's true. Either a competitor comes along, or there
will have to be a generational shift at FIDE.
I won't be alive to see it, but ...
Imagine a FIDE of 2065 where GM Hikaru Nakamura is President and
GM Hans Niemann is the Head of Commercial Operations...
I wonder about all the GM-level professional streamers...
imagine if they all started their own esports chess league
together. FIDE would be very angry with them.
I think Magnus Carlsen is on the case... he has already said
eSports arenas is where he'd like to see faster time-controlled
Chess tournaments go.
The Horny Goat wrote:
And remember that due to my position in a national
federation I have seen quite a few FIDE e-mails not
otherwise widely distributed though they've done a
LOT better these last 5-7 years since the end of the
previous regime
That's Chess 'content' that should have been posted here...
after all, there's only a few of us here and we're not going
to tell anyone!
;-)
And remember that due to my position in a national
federation I have seen quite a few FIDE e-mails not
otherwise widely distributed though they've done a
LOT better these last 5-7 years since the end of the
previous regime
The Horny Goat wrote:
And remember that due to my position in a national
federation I have seen quite a few FIDE e-mails not
otherwise widely distributed though they've done a
LOT better these last 5-7 years since the end of the
previous regime
That's Chess 'content' that should have been posted here...
after all, there's only a few of us here and we're not going
to tell anyone!
;-)
(Much as I've always respected their playing strength, I never much
respected how the Soviets did FIDE business. Far too much lack of
transparency and 'wink wink nudge nudge' for me. I always thought Tim
Rice's version of the Soviet officials in Chess the Musical rang too
close to truth! And remember that due to my position in a national
federation I have seen quite a few FIDE e-mails not otherwise widely
distributed though they've done a LOT better these last 5-7 years
since the end of the previous regime)
If russians way of working is similar to other sports organizations, I'd
say that corruption and nepotism are two corner stones. ;)
On Mon, 09 Sep 2024 13:51:28 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
wrote:
No, that's true. Either a competitor comes along, or there
will have to be a generational shift at FIDE.
I won't be alive to see it, but ...
Of course you will. As a teenager I and a group of my friends got
yelled at by then FIDE president Max Euwe for making too much noise in
the skittles room at the 1971 Canadian Open / FIDE Congress...
I will never forget his "Gentlemen, gentlemen, this is a CHESS
tournament!!"
Imagine a FIDE of 2065 where GM Hikaru Nakamura is President and
GM Hans Niemann is the Head of Commercial Operations...
I wonder about all the GM-level professional streamers...
imagine if they all started their own esports chess league
together. FIDE would be very angry with them.
I think Magnus Carlsen is on the case... he has already said
eSports arenas is where he'd like to see faster time-controlled
Chess tournaments go.
As a result I wouldn't be surprised to see Carlsen as FIDE president
one day and it would be a breath of air to get the top dogs of FIDE
from somewhere other than the former Soviet Union.
(Much as I've always respected their playing strength, I never much
respected how the Soviets did FIDE business. Far too much lack of transparency and 'wink wink nudge nudge' for me. I always thought Tim
Rice's version of the Soviet officials in Chess the Musical rang too
close to truth! And remember that due to my position in a national
federation I have seen quite a few FIDE e-mails not otherwise widely distributed though they've done a LOT better these last 5-7 years
since the end of the previous regime)
On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:26:02 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
(Much as I've always respected their playing strength, I never much
respected how the Soviets did FIDE business. Far too much lack of
transparency and 'wink wink nudge nudge' for me. I always thought Tim
Rice's version of the Soviet officials in Chess the Musical rang too
close to truth! And remember that due to my position in a national
federation I have seen quite a few FIDE e-mails not otherwise widely
distributed though they've done a LOT better these last 5-7 years
since the end of the previous regime)
If russians way of working is similar to other sports organizations, I'd
say that corruption and nepotism are two corner stones. ;)
I think I can say without getting into TOO much trouble that yes some
of the things the USCF and CFC dislike are the sort of things that
were de rigeur in sports organizations in the Soviet bloc before 1991
and haven't completely disappeared. Canadians and Americans tend to be
more open than the eastern bloc and expect the same in return......
Today is 10/9/2024 - round 1 of the Olympiad is tomorrow
On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:17:48 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Horny Goat wrote:
And remember that due to my position in a national
federation I have seen quite a few FIDE e-mails not
otherwise widely distributed though they've done a
LOT better these last 5-7 years since the end of the
previous regime
That's Chess 'content' that should have been posted here...
after all, there's only a few of us here and we're not going
to tell anyone!
;-)
Nice try....
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