They say China are the favourites for the Gold Medal, I will
stick my neck out and go with India though !
Here is the Levy's { Gotham Chess } recap of today's interesting
happenings at the Olympiad in Budapest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2jA4G6-RS0
{ Video: 37 mins }
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:07:20 +0000, Silver Skull
<silver.skull@nopsam.com> wrote:
Here is the Levy's { Gotham Chess } recap of today's interesting
happenings at the Olympiad in Budapest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2jA4G6-RS0
{ Video: 37 mins }
Of course if you want to watch the games live you could go to >https://chessolympiad2024.fide.com/live-games/open
(You DO have to tell it which day's round you're watching - Tuesday's
is round 7)
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:07:20 +0000, Silver Skull
<silver.skull@nopsam.com> wrote:
Here is the Levy's { Gotham Chess } recap of today's
interesting happenings at the Olympiad in Budapest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2jA4G6-RS0
Of course if you want to watch the games live you could go to https://chessolympiad2024.fide.com/live-games/open
(You DO have to tell it which day's round you're watching -
Tuesday's is round 7)
Silver Skull wrote:
They say China are the favourites for the Gold Medal, I will
stick my neck out and go with India though !
India
or USA I'd say...
I don't know where Silver is located but here in Europe it's
hard for me to follow the Olympiad 'live' as there's this thing
called work. I do manage to dip in and out at times though to
see what is going on.
A review of the main games in the evening also works for me...
four/five x four hour games condensed in to 30-40 mins is the
way to go. Well, until I retire and can relax on weekday
afternoon's, drink tea and watch Chess...
India are [predictably] doing very well, so there's not really
anything surprising going on at the moment.
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 14:53:23 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I don't know where Silver is located but here in Europe it's
hard for me to follow the Olympiad 'live' as there's this
thing called work. I do manage to dip in and out at times
though to see what is going on.
If you're in central Europe then it's "prime time" for you
which probably means a start time during your working hours.
Blueshirt wrote:
Silver Skull wrote:
They say China are the favourites for the Gold Medal, I will
stick my neck out and go with India though !
India
Gukesh looks awesome.
or USA I'd say...
They look, er... not awesome.
If you're in central Europe then it's "prime time" for you
which probably means a start time during your working hours.
Yes, the Olympiad games start at 14:15 for me, so bang in the
middle of my day. (Lunch time, like now actually.) Which means
it's fairly awkward to follow the matches live on weekdays...
the evening [for me] re-caps by various streamers will obviously
cover the main players (Magnus, Fabiano, Gukesh, Ding etc.) so
that has to suffice...
I'm a Canadian and a national federation board member so I tend to
follow our guys - but no question I'm paying attention to Ding and
Gukesh since the world championship match is the next major item on
the chess schedule.
This has been a good chess year for me since we've had a Candidates,
Olympiad and World Championship match. I particularly enjoyed the day
I got my Informant 160 in the mail since that's the one that covers
the Toronto Candidates.
I'm a Canadian and a national federation board member so I
tend to follow our guys - but no question I'm paying attention
to Ding and Gukesh since the world championship match is the
next major item on the chess schedule.
On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 21:17:43 +0000, The Horny Goat wrote:
This has been a good chess year for me since we've had a
Candidates, Olympiad and World Championship match. I
particularly enjoyed the day I got my Informant 160 in the
mail since that's the one that covers the Toronto Candidates.
People are still doing magazines ? I thought NIC would have
switched to an all-online "publication" model by now.
I feel sorry for Ding Liren & Gukesh D. No matter how well
they play and whatever they do in the world championship games
this year, with no Magnus taking part there will always be a
"not really world champion" tag attached to the winner in some
people's minds.
I wish FIDE could have come to some arrangement with Magnus
Carlsen to keep him interested in the world championship
format. As with Ding Liren dropping down the rankings this
year he has lost a bit of credibility. { World Champion but
not in the top ten FIDE rankings.} We all know Ding Liren is a
great player though and Gukesh D looks the real deal too but
the ghost of Magnus Carlsen will loom large over whoever
triumph's in December's world championships games.
This has been a good chess year for me since we've had a
Candidates, Olympiad and World Championship match. I
particularly enjoyed the day I got my Informant 160 in the
mail since that's the one that covers the Toronto Candidates.
People are still doing magazines ? I thought NIC would have
switched to an all-online "publication" model by now.
The USA were the top seeds, just above India, going in to this
Olympiad. They will surely leave Europe with a medal of some
sort.
Although Gukesh D winning would the title in Singapore,
following his Gold medals at the Olympiad, would at least
restore a bit of credibility to the title.
It's a major item on the chess schedule but as mentioned, the
FIDE "World Champion" title has a hollow ring to it whilst the
#1 ranked chess player in the world sits it out in his 'bored of
it all' mode.
Of course, when Gukesh D is ranked #1 in the world and is also
the FIDE "World Champion" we'll be back on track again... and it
is just a case of when. (IMHO)
On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:46:38 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Although Gukesh D winning would the title in Singapore,
following his Gold medals at the Olympiad, would at least
restore a bit of credibility to the title.
How is this significantly different from Botvinnik who won
what was essentially a 'Candidates tournament' in 1948 and
then not winning a world championship match >as world
champion< until he lost to Petrosian in 1963?
But of course, the FIDE "World Champion" is only the world
champion because the #1 ranked chess player in the world stood
down. It's not Ding Liren's fault, obviously. But nobody
seriously thinks Ding Liren would have beaten Magnus Carlsen for
the world championship title last year.
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:10:16 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
But of course, the FIDE "World Champion" is only the world
champion because the #1 ranked chess player in the world
stood down. It's not Ding Liren's fault, obviously. But
nobody seriously thinks Ding Liren would have beaten Magnus
Carlsen for the world championship title last year.
I agree - just like nobody gave Spassky (even though he was
reigning world champion) vs Fischer.
And I'm sure most people here know when the match is and where
it's being played.
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:10:16 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
But of course, the FIDE "World Champion" is only the world
champion because the #1 ranked chess player in the world
stood down. It's not Ding Liren's fault, obviously. But
nobody seriously thinks Ding Liren would have beaten Magnus
Carlsen for the world championship title last year.
I agree - just like nobody gave Spassky (even though he was
reigning world champion) vs Fischer.
I'm not old enough to remember the build-up to that match-up,
only the result (and aftermath), which is of course legendary.
With all the online chess coverage now we can see what player is
on-form and off-form in the run-up to the matches in December
and have opinions. (Right or wrong.) Back then, did people even
care about who was playing good chess at the time, or was it
just a polarised USA v Soviet Union thing?
And I'm sure most people here know when the match is and where
it's being played.
As this is a niche newsgroup, and Usenet is fairly niche in
itself, I'd like to think so... but there does seem to be a lot
more activity here of late so you just never know who's lurking.
Marshall, Tarrasch, and Janowski lost to Lasker. Aside from Bogblyubov >(twice) the next challenger to actually lose was Spassky in 1966.
According to the players, Lasker was the challenger in 1921, having
resigned the title to Capablanca earlier. But nobody else bought that.
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:10:16 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
But of course, the FIDE "World Champion" is only the world
champion because the #1 ranked chess player in the world
stood down. It's not Ding Liren's fault, obviously. But
nobody seriously thinks Ding Liren would have beaten Magnus
Carlsen for the world championship title last year.
I agree - just like nobody gave Spassky (even though he was
reigning world champion) vs Fischer.
I'm not old enough to remember the build-up to that match-up,
only the result (and aftermath), which is of course legendary.
With all the online chess coverage now we can see what player is
on-form and off-form in the run-up to the matches in December
and have opinions. (Right or wrong.) Back then, did people even
care about who was playing good chess at the time, or was it
just a polarised USA v Soviet Union thing?
And I'm sure most people here know when the match is and where
it's being played.
As this is a niche newsgroup, and Usenet is fairly niche in
itself, I'd like to think so... but there does seem to be a lot
more activity here of late so you just never know who's lurking.
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:10:16 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
wrote:
But of course, the FIDE "World Champion" is only the world
champion because the #1 ranked chess player in the world stood
down. It's not Ding Liren's fault, obviously. But nobody
seriously thinks Ding Liren would have beaten Magnus Carlsen for
the world championship title last year.
I agree - just like nobody gave Spassky (even though he was reigning
world champion) vs Fischer.
Actually, quite a few people thought Spassky would win, due to his being
less likely to fall apart. And because Spassky beat Fischer as recently
as 1970, in the Siegen Olympiad.
And after game two, it looked like they were right.
It wasn't so clear then as it is in hindsight.
William Hyde
I think I mentioned that I collect Informants and have a complete set
- and of them all my favorite remains #12 which featured an Olympiad
and Fischer-Spassky 1972. And in those days they didn't have those
articles that now take up 1/3 or so of each Informant. The first 30 or
so aren't mint (I was in my teens and rubber stamped my name and
address of those days in each) but the rest are mint.
Hopefully when I go my collection won't suffer the fate of Dr Nathan Divinsky's collection (he was national secretary of the Canadian
federatiton before me and fairly important in FIDE which I'm not) -
his widow had boxed up all his chess books and invited 15-20 well
known local players to pick it over - when I left his house that day
it felt like the end of an era.
We are, ISTM, the last "book" generation. My children and
their partners read avidly; but have no more than a couple of
shelves of books, mostly presents or borrowed from me. When
they send their Christmas wish-lists, they want the Kindle
versions. I've been known to go on holiday with 20-odd books
in the car to read; they take a Kindle each. My parents took
several daily newspapers; we used to take one; now we go
online, apart from doing some of the puzzles in the freebie
papers in the coffee shop.
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 17:45:03 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
The Horny Goat wrote:<blueshirt@indigo.news> >> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:10:16 GMT, "Blueshirt"
stood >>> down. It's not Ding Liren's fault, obviously. But
But of course, the FIDE "World Champion" is only the world
champion because the #1 ranked chess player in the world
nobody >>> seriously thinks Ding Liren would have beaten
Magnus Carlsen for >>> the world championship title last year.
Certainly no one denigrates Karpov for how he became world
champion...
Hmmmm... I have a Kindle Paperwhite but I have never thought of
reading chess books on them. I wonder do they display the board
illustrations properly? I'll have to investigate.
I have no illusion that my collections of maths/computing/music/
chess/cricket/... books have any monetary value. Nor that any library
would really want many of them. In the end, when I fall off the twig
[or when, much the same thing really, I may reach the point where I have
to downsize into a small flat for assisted living], I would rather some
local chess friends or mathematicians etc get the benefit than that a >house-clearance company chucks the lot into a skip.
I know I might be a bit harsh on Ding at times (his recent form
doesn't help) as he is a great player, but one who was extremely
fortunate to make it to that world championship match in
Kazakhstan last year... even the last game in the 2022
Candidates against Hikaru Nakamura - who only needed to draw to
be the runner-up, and ultimately qualify - was touch and go
before Hikaru messed-up. But fair play to Ding, he did take his
chance and become the World Champion. I hope he plays like one
in December. I don't even mind if he proves me wrong by beating
Gukesh, all we really want to see is some good chess and a
worthy winner.
Of course - and I really liked what they did with the online
feeds of both the Candidates and the Olympiad this year. Now
arranging my schedule to be at the computer screen at the
right time was awkward but...
Following OTB chess games online is easy these days, but with
the world championship games starting at 09:00 GMT / UST (17:00
local time in Singapore) I won't get to see much of the weekday
games live because of work... I can check-in on breaks obviously
but I'll probably just watch the re-caps in the evening on
YouTube. On your side of the pond it will be a lot easier to
follow the games live as it'll be evening time when they
start... as long as you don't like to go to bed too early!
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:22:33 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I know I might be a bit harsh on Ding at times (his recent
form doesn't help) as he is a great player, but one who was
extremely fortunate to make it to that world championship
match in Kazakhstan last year... even the last game in the
2022 Candidates against Hikaru Nakamura - who only needed to
draw to be the runner-up, and ultimately qualify - was touch
and go before Hikaru messed-up. But fair play to Ding, he
did take his chance and become the World Champion. I hope he
plays like one in December. I don't even mind if he proves
me wrong by beating Gukesh, all we really want to see is
some good chess and a worthy winner.
Of course - and I really liked what they did with the online
feeds of both the Candidates and the Olympiad this year. Now
arranging my schedule to be at the computer screen at the
right time was awkward but...
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:28:13 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
wrote:
Hmmmm... I have a Kindle Paperwhite but I have never thought of
reading chess books on them. I wonder do they display the board
illustrations properly? I'll have to investigate.
That's certainly a key consideration - I can't normally follow more
than 5 or 6 moves from a diagram without my eyes glazing over unless
it's a simple ending (simple meaning "few pieces" as opposed to
"easy")
Canadian Maritimes in the mid-1980s where he lost to Yusupov. (I was
somewhat ambivalent about that match since Yusupov and I share some of
the same openings so I learned some theory watching him in action as
black)
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